GMBN Tech Essentials Ep.1 | Wheel Axles

[@gmbntech]

Welcome to GMBN Tech Essentials! What skills would you like to learn?

[@Stiffs1121]

GMBN Tech how do I pick the right sized bike frame for me

[@daylightsensor8695]

How to choose between rockshox, Fox,ohlins,etc

[@passipassi100]

Wheel bearings and servicing them would be interesting.

[@MrAmorti]

Chain cleaning and maintenance; schedules, methods, tools, and which products are recommended. Don't even mind if it's sponsored products as long as you believe in them, Doddy

[@dereksmith3632]

I have a back tire with correct axle/ frame size but the tire rubs against the left seat stay. how do I measure the complete wheel and back triangle to find out what matches or doesn't fit?

[@DiverT-sf4xe]

For the people that might be looking to upgrade or replace their through axles, it's worth mentioning that many through axles have different thread patterns or thread pitch and this is sometimes not shown on some retailers websites. I've seen guys buy the correct size axle but with the wrong thread pattern/pitch and have ended up either damaging the thread on the axle and not being able to return it, or worse still damaged the thread on their bike frame!

[@theSEGAtwistisover9k]

Came for quick release skewer info, stayed for the Doddy.

[@bicyclist2]

I'm old enough to remember the days when both road and mountain bikes had the exact same axel lengths. And both were the same quick release size. These once simple things have gotten way too complicated. This detailed explanation is greatly appreciated. Please keep up the good work. Thank you.

[@Commander_ZiN]

I still have an old bike from the early 90's, if I have axle issues I could prolly find a spare nut anywhere. I now bought a new bike, all pre-rusted for $35. When I say new, I mean new for me, '07 to '09 I think. It's got a bolt through quick release on back, seems just fine after years of use and replacement bolts easy to get. On the front it has a weird axle from Manitou, I need to work out what that is. It's nice to see new designs, if they solve a problem or add something new people want. However I think more bikes should keep to tried and proven common standards that are easy fix and cheap to replace. Making profits is not a reason to make things more anti-consumer. Plenty of good old bikes out there if you're not racing. However it's just so confusing after not really looking at bikes for over 20 years :P

[@dianedavy]

Brilliant. I’m new to MTB and as a car mechanic, love taking things apart, I have a couple of bikes, WhyteT 130s 2016 and Boardman 9.0 2021. Can’t thank you enough. Your advice, videos and general enthusiasm, make it easy to follow an have a go. Thanks again. Davy Davidson.

[@neildaniel8232]

I've had all the main ones on bikes over the last few years plus a few of the less common ones and the best one I've come across for forks is the Cane Creek D-Loc. It automatically puts the lever in the correct position, has an adjustment collar that doesn't break like the ones in Maxles and the locking switch means that it won't fall out even if the lever flips open. Such a clever system that just oozes quality.

[@LooneyTune666]

Should be a handy series

[@gmbntech]

That's the goal - let us know what you'd like to see!

[@th_js]

I agree

[@DanDan-fu6sd]

Just got a bike with a missing front axel bolt. It is my first boosted bike. The info here is crucial for understanding and ordering the new part. You probably saved me several disappointing returns. Many thanks!

[@petayV8]

Just as I thought gmbn tech channel couldn't get any better !

[@downundermtb4744]

Great the maxle had me confused 🤷‍♂️ lol got it thanks...Love the DT system my Merida had the same system easy...

[@darrenwall5439]

Sound out Doddy! I have the maxle and was wondering how to adjust 💚😎💚

[@shark2075]

Very instructive vid, thanks Doddy, also worth mentionning, I've once had my rear Quick release set too lose (not tight enough) and it cause what seemed to be at first a BB creaking noise, which was in fact the rear end of the frame having a little play. Glad I figured it out before wrongly replacing my press fit BB.

[@dfswhip]

good advice, took me a good couple of weeks to find the right torque for my old school skewers, and the levers were closed in line with the frame/fork for aesthetic reasons, turns out it was safer after a friend caught his rear skewer with his heel.

[@ondrejhofman5592]

What should I use for lubricating these axles? Or should they be lubricated or kept dry and lubricated only on threads? I dont mean with water and mud...

[@noelius4481]

This series is brilliant. Full bike geek and totally enjoyable to both know the history and proper maintenance of the parts. Doddy is a great teacher. 👏

[@ianferch8282]

My 1982 Stumpjumper has 128mm rear spacing.

[@adammoonface]

This is the sort of stuff nobody tells you, but everyone needs to know!

[@gmbntech]

That's so great to hear. Really, it's what makes us do these videos!

[@rayglasscock9667]

Your good 👍 very well explained simple as 1 2 3 I’m off to change my wheels

[@hindesite]

Isn't the Fox removable nut now used on the Float system to ensure the fork ends are not squeezed together if a under-width hub is installed? The axle doesn't compress the hub, it essentially floats on the axle.

[@superlongman]

In addition.. * 20mm DH axle has boost and non-boost standard in same 110mm OLD, not compatible each other. * There are at least three different thread pitch standards of rear through axles. 1.0mm(X-12), 1.5mm(E-Thuru), and 1.75mm(Maxle). Moreover, rear Maxle boost length is 180mm(standard?) and 188mm(for Split Pivot?). A bit complicated.

[@lonniewoods6329]

Ok.. so I'm gonna change my QR Front axle along with new thru axle Fork.. my Question: what size thread pinch & thru axle do I need, because I'm Installing a front hub motor so I want a Safe front wheel system for my 26' disc brake MTB

[@KingOfSpite]

Just picked up a new bike yesterday with thru axles. Thanks for the info. Very helpful.

[@robertwilke1208]

Well presented information. The reader should know that you can't swap between axle types because often they have different thread pitches - 1mm, 1.5mm, 1.75mm that I know of.

[@andyjack37]

Great beginner tips. Looking forward to further videos in this series

[@jerrygundecker743]

Previous remarks notwithstanding, these are great videos. Thank you for them.

[@guyyanez6949]

These series videos are a great idea and you hit a good topic to start with! I would just add my two cents by pointing out that if you are in the RS1 tribe and still enjoy that inverted fork, the lever should be pointing towards the rear of the bike and horizontal to the bottom of the fork. Reason being, rockshox claims that you would otherwise likely be damaging the stanchion.

[@strickphoto]

The worst is the new bike we got has a 141 QR rear. From my looking around that seems to be a boost spaced QR but of course the dropouts won't take a 12mm axle only 10mm I believe. I have read that this is becoming a new standard QR

[@MrMk1rob]

Could you do a video on how to install and setup dual crown forks. Ie adjusting the crown heights and how it affects head angle ect

[@Darkhalfcustoms]

My front axle while being on a Rockshox Domain as a 20mm x 110mm axle and it has a collet that pushes out and grips the housing to lock it self in. Its much different than any of the standard axles in the video.

[@gmbntech]

Yeah, those are more downhill style forks. Some still have this system, but it's much less common these days.

[@Darkhalfcustoms]

thanks for the reply. Now I just need to figure out how to put the 35mm boxxer air spring stanchions in my domain frontend.

[@Sanesaint1]

Should I just put a regular axle through and get rid of my quick release I'm going to 32 miles per hour

[@itswiss3448]

Excellent Video, thanks for posting, much helpful to understand how it's work ..

[@brodylyons6217]

Hey my quick release lever keeps unscrewing off of the actual thru axle itself on my qr 15, any tips on how to fix it?

[@jasonmylan4228]

Just put my axle on my norco Revolver 2 29r wheels And just keeps spinning not tighten at all Is ere any tool I can use now to get it back off Or help me out Thanks 👍

[@bicyclist2]

Is there a way to adapt a 20mm front hub to a 15mm fork axel? Is there a way to change or adapt a quick release wheel to thru axel? Thanks.

[@30OIvanova]

Can you reduce the width of an axel from 135mm to 127mm? Thank you!

[@lonniewoods6329]

What's the best axle to use with a front hub motor

[@Softballcrazy]

Can a loose ball bearing hub be converted to through axle?

[@vaishnavraj4657]

Hello, I have a whyte bike with a central lock through axel 12 x 142 mm, but theres no way to tighten the axel and more just holds things rather than tighten the frame to the hub. Is there a torque limit to this as all that happens is that the other end of the axel comes more outside as i tighten it. Do i just leave it equally distant from the centre of the frame ? Thank you

[@th_js]

This actually was a really nice and oddly satisfying video!

[@th_js]

This comment doesn't sound like me at all in my opinion 😂

[@mingDynasty29]

Do I need to put grease on the axle?? Thank you

[@gregwatson8554]

How about a video on building a simple home bike work space. Most, if not all, of the shops I've seen online seem to be set up exclusively with Park tools and a peg board with specialized tool hangers. Additionally, I'd be interested in suggestions related to tool placements. Something along the lines of chain whip is best located near the rear wheel and a brake bleed kit can live in a drawer nearby because it is only used once in awhile sort of thing.

[@StuffOffYouStuff]

thank you very much for this

[@polymongoloid]

Great video!... I've recently upgraded to my first full suspension bike and would love to see a video on how to maintain the front and rear suspension components

[@leetos.4915]

Hello Sir your blog on this axle breakdown is awesome and much appreciated…however would like to know from your point of view if steel axle durability can last a long time? I have decided to replace my quick release on my MTB for my autistic nephews journey of learning on riding MTB in the park. I figured every moment counts with him especially his enjoyment every time he rides on the pegs behind me on the bike. So far…I haven’t noticed any kind of bent on any component near to the rear hub axle after a week of riding with my nephew on the pegs. My nephew by the way is about 150 lbs as 16 yr old.

[@thesingingcyclist8127]

As always, awesome video Doddy

[@FSBIGGIN]

I'm confused, I took my cassette off and free hub to clean and maintain. put it all back on and now my rear wheel doesn't spin as free as it would depending on how tight i do my through axle.

[@DiverT-sf4xe]

Great vid, I'd like to maybe see a video like this about rim and tyre widths - I often see guys writing posts asking what width tyres they can fit on their rims, i.e how wide can they go etc etc.

[@IzzyHers]

I don’t have either of those axels mine has no levers and my tire won’t come out

[@bernardarcher4028]

What sized rear hollow hub would l need for a Claud Butler Windermere ?

[@MaglorMusic]

Hi, do the axles need lubrication? (grease)

[@matthewk7037]

MaglorMusic yes you should put a light coat of grease on the axle and threads, don’t much at all though you only want a small bit

[@MaglorMusic]

@@matthewk7037 thanks :)

[@JuanShredderTV]

My Scott Scale 990 has a different standard and it really sucks that the 141mm skewers are a rare find. I'm worried that I won't be able to find a replacement in case it breaks.

[@flarearrow9808]

VIDEO SUGGESTION - A video on frame geometry. The history and evolution of frame geometry. When did things start to become "long, low, and slack"?

[@Masterfighterx]

I can only wonder why they adopted that piece of QR on so many variants of the Thru Axle, I only see 3 good variants, one is the DT Swiss, another is the one where you simply remove the handle bit, the last one is the Maxle Stealth. Those 3 you won't have to fiddle and do guess work with, the best ones imo are the last 2 I mentioned as they leave to lever out when you're done.

[@Metal-Possum]

Don't give up your day job, you're rather good at it. I'm quite fond of the Suntour Q-Loc design, it's a bit fiddly perhaps, and user-errors almost always result in the mechanism in pieces on the ground, but it's a very effective method that doesn't require any special machining in the fork lowers.

[@6786lned]

I have a DT swiss front hub 15mm boost can this be converted to a 100 so I can run this wheel on my 100

[@robedge7670]

Hi guys, I have an old set of Fox 40's, 2008 I think, The axle though on it is a 25mm one!! Any idea where I could get a hub or wheel for this? Width between stanchions is 110mm. Many thanks, Rob

[@moninladiana6936]

Is there 200lengnth /12mm rear Thru axle it seems my axle is little bit short when I put a Microspline Hope Hub😊

[@TGRacing]

I have Maxle Stealth, Is it possible to switch to QR Maxle ? The advantages would be not having to have an Allen key to hand and the correct torque setting.

[@rhl2macwan]

Hi there I got a question for the rockshox fork is it possible to break the thread on the suspension is that part in built or like that fox one removable? Thank you

[@kingk5013]

Trying to find mavic 650b with 17mm

[@scottcolumbo4379]

Great info!!

[@lonniewoods6329]

Where do I get a thru axle fork for my 26' disc brake mountain ebike

[@bertusbob]

Thanks for the great info..

[@noahwray3587]

This was extremely helpful and well explained! Thank you!

[@hairyhomerify]

Due over tightening my QR Maxle is damaged and I cannot get it out

[@ghanshyamparashar8672]

Nice video

[@drmoynihan]

If I buy a NukeProof with a conventional through axle that needs a Allen Key (hex wrench), I can replace it with a Maxle so I can use the flip lever to tighten it on. Is this correct?

[@harel586]

Thank you very muchhh!! Grate video!

[@senyum0]

@gmbn i have a mavic crossmac sl pro 26 in TA. Im building a DJ bike. The frame accept bolt-on axle. How can i make it work? I used a quick release adapter. I tried it but it made it not so secure. How can i convert it to aacomodate my frame

[@lodg1e]

Like some of the others that have commented I would like you to have addressed the different thread pitches also and which bike manufacturers use which thread pitch size. Interface too, conical and flat faced.

[@gmbntech]

Thanks Darren, it'll be an expansion on this video, and important to cover in the future.

[@newttella1043]

Good point. Axles may not be interchangeable from frame to frame.

[@ThunderStruckMTB]

Very good video that should help most anyone...... For me, I just grab my 6mm hex wrench and bamm, my bolt on axle is tight.

[@gmbntech]

Simplest system around 👍

[@polkhighsfinest]

Great vid... how about brake maintenance, bleeding etc?

[@gmbntech]

Hey Gerard, check out these videos for Shimano and SRAM brake bleeds: Shimano: gmbn.eu/4k SRAM: gmbn.eu/Sl

[@user-yv2cz8oj1k]

You might want to include Magura, very popular now. Though I've been on Magura brakes for over a decade.

[@jaakko200987654321]

i always get excited when i see that scout

[@raymondchapman2075]

Great video Doddy. Looking forward to more of this series.

[@BaukeP]

Do you need to lubricate the axle?

[@braullotolentino27]

cant wait for Ep. 2 Well done Doddy!

[@dietmarsfotoreisen2773]

Hi Doddy, why is the fastener of the through axle on a Haibike on the drive side and not as on most bikes on the non drive side?

[@MidlandAngler88]

Hi my front wheel on my giant has none of these axels, it has a quick release tab on the left side along with a collar with a groove in it, and have tried various things to remove the wheel Unsuccessfully, including trying to undo the collar with the quick release handle in the groove, but does not budge at all. Can you give me any tips to remove the wheel pls?! Thanks

[@fairtomiddling]

most Rockshox forks I've seen have had Maxle Lite which I was surprised you didn't feature, has the metal shroud used to thread/unthread that's easily bent

[@MrStevegregory]

I swapped mine for maxle stealth after bending mine. Awful design.

[@emilianohasan]

Excellent video, a friend of my bought a Rockshork Judy fork and it came with a MAXLE without quick release, we've tried to release with a alen key but it's impossible, i'm wondering if you might know which tool we can use for this purpose, thanks great channel!

[@JustTheMazza]

I don't understand the 142, 148, 157 thing, shouldn't that be just the hub width? What's the matter with axles? I just had to change my rear axle that was 195mm long, i found a new 195mm axle that also report the 148 size but if the thread length and the full length of the new axle is the same as my old, what's the point with the 148 size? Shouldn't fit anyway in my rear hub? Also the diameter is the same... Sorry for asking but i can't really understand...

[@manseliasson]

I know that you have a tutorial on tire pressure but I still don`t know what tire pressure I should have. I weight 52 kg and racing with the Scott spark RC 900 team bike with the stans no tubes crest mk3 wheels(Rim Internal Width: 23.0mm). I have the maxxis aspen 2.25 tires on. I can say that I´m a skilled racer and know about where the limits is on the tires before it folds or blows up but I'm still not sure what tire pressure I should have. please help.

[@aaronsandiego03]

I have a thru axle fork with an included axle,as long as its a thru axle hub it will fit?

[@dietmarsfotoreisen2773]

By the way great show Doddy love it

[@matttomlinson1780]

Hey Doddy, did you mention that the different types have different thread pitches? So if for some reason someone needs to replace one, to make sure they get an appropriate type. I had to buy a through axle adapter for a turbo trainer to fit a niner RDO gravel bike that uses 142 x 12. That's when I found out that they are not all the same thread pitch.

[@sherwinamat3901]

Nicely done bro , newbie question? What's the Allen key size that you used in the thru axle demo

[@Bungle2010]

The one that fits?

[@iraceruk]

Is there any way to make a new, mid-range bike through axle compatible? I appreciate that you'd probably need new forks for the front, but what about the rear? Is there some sort of adaptor to allow through axle fitting to a regular old style quick release bolt at the back, or does the frame have to be specifically designed for through axles at the rear?

[@MrSnoopi]

There is something called Poseidon X that can convert a Quick Release to Thru axle but it's pricey and I think you won't get the same benefits from a normal thru axle frame.

[@smb7647]

Should qr skewers be released when the bike is not in use, say one weekend to the next

[@Tntdruid]

Why is this not in a playlist?

[@ajoz2700]

What is E thru axle?

[@dianedavy]

Hi Davy Davidson here. More I would like to purchase a good tool kit for the more specialist jobs, I have tools, that are general car purpose and do. These are no use to replace bearing etc. I’ve watched a few video that imply the 2016 Whyte T130s has a s last issue with suspension parts wearing out and Whyte offer free replacements. So that kind of job. Would you recommend a particular kit? Thanks.Davy.

[@tiggywawa]

Brilliant! Thanks.

[@petecurran3995]

Prime info! 👍🏻

[@nathanbroxham7361]

I have a normal qwickrealese kan i put on a thru axsel

[@JG-zx9yn]

Just to make sure, can i use "FOX" axles on a rockshox fork ??

[@martisutton2499]

First time I've had the front wheel off since I bought the bike 6 months ago, seized with the tire the wrong way round having to use a large mallet/rod against bench to free it. Will i have damaged/bent the fork bridge because the lever end didn't free from hub when I unscrewed axle and belted? Great work, keep em coming.

[@pvillaluna1]

Wish you had this video last year before I got my PhD is dropout standards. It would be useful for you to have addressed "Thread Pitch" and "Thread Length" because it impacts compatibility. BTW, I refuse to buy Pivot because of 157, LoL, Great Video as always!

[@jcscholtz2043]

Love your vids keep up with the hard work

[@TyrannoKoenigsegg]

All I want to know is if I need to get brand new frame for these

[@mortenbarth746]

More of that

[@aokigabriel]

Great video Doddy! Now the question is rockshox fox or dt? 🤔