Is This The Only Mountain Bike You Need?

[@gmbn]

What mountain bikes are you currently riding the most?

[@rockdown92]

I mostly ride my YT Izzo trail bike. 130mm at the rear and 140mm at the front of the fork. I visited a few trail parks and bike parks with it this year 😁

[@josemcareca]

Waiting for my Tyee MX to arrive. Currently on a Dartmoor Primal hardtail.

[@DanWebb8080]

Trek top fuel 8 xt and cube stereo 120r i use them for xc/trail black diamond even on the road getting there i think they are classed as a down country but i like the term short travel trail

[@jacksonarenburg520]

Norco Fluid FS A2 trail bike but I push the things limits and all the reviews that state that it’s a short travel enduro bike are very much correct and I haven’t even had a harsh bottom out with 130/140 travel

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

It's winter in Canada so my Chromag rootdown hardtail, I'm looking for a cheaper fatbike or rigid hardtail not liking the road salt exposure on my rootdown 😡

[@DonnyDondon55]

On the trails, a random guy once told me "the bike you have is the only bike you need, the bike you dont have is the bike you think you need." In the end, i still bought a new bike 😅😂😢

[@rustychain9518]

This is why I love my Trek Fuel EX, 150/140 with flip chips and it performs admirably as a trail bike and as an XC bike for me.

[@augmented2nd666]

Very cool bikes, but I didnt like the steeper headtube angle even with the flip chip, and I like hitting jumps and drops where I am (Vancouver Island, BC, Canada) so I wanted a little more suspension. I opted for the slightly more travel Slash Gen 5 2023 model which is pre Idler and not as slack as the Gen 6 models, Great intbetween for me, as 160 rear travel is more than enough for most of Whistler and Squamish if I ever get over there (I still havent ridden Mt. Washington yet on the island here, or Jordie Lunn bike park, gotta hit those first). But I would totally consider it a light enduro still, and I guess it is classified as one. I find it climbs like my Hardtail too, and that without even flipping the suspension lockout thingies, I find the bit of bounce actually helps sometimes climbing techy roots. I kept my Hardtail though, for now, Devinci Kobain, as we do get sub 0 Celsius temps here and I rode in them last year. I've read that Air suspension doesnt like sub 0C temps and that pivots and whatnot really dont like the extra mud and whatnot in general, even though I wash my bikes after every ride. Its kinda nice keeping a more basic bike for the rough weather though, my Devinci isnt even tubeless, and I dont see a reason to convert it if its mostly being ridden in bad weather season and then possibly sitting alot of the year waiting for occasional rides or when a bikeless friend wants to go for a ride, as I have trails across the street from me.

[@ChrisBHaven]

I recently purchased a Hugene with 140/140. It is hands down the best bike I've ridden. There's mostly fast singletrack XC trails here, but serious mountain trails a day trip away. I use fast rolling tires here, and the bike is a rocket that carries speed and momentum better than XC bikes I've owned. I swap to the stock beefy tires when heading inland, and it eats everything with confidence. A light trail bike with good geo and two sets of tires is the cat's pajamas.

[@jacksonarenburg520]

Haha I agree since I own a Norco fluid but the thing comes stock with somewhat beefy tires from factory and I do everything from XC to gnarly tech DH bike park laps with a little bit of local enduro and DH racing and it takes it so well and zero harsh bottom outs after one season of riding

[@DirtlovR]

For me my 150/160 mm Spectral is a perfect "do it all" bike. It has aggressive enough geometry and enough travel for enduro trails and yet it's still good enough on climbs and doesn't tire me on a all day rides. Perfect bridge between a hardcore enduro rigs and a low travel trail bike.

[@JackOfHearts42]

I got a trail bike, and it's the only bike I have lol. Sure it's not the mostly highly optimized for a pro, but for me it's the most optimized for variety.

[@andreaskaiser6317]

Can you please share the trails you rode? The Trailsforks route would much appreciated!

[@patrickfranke4274]

The ATB (All Terrain Bike) is back. It feels so 90's. I love it. I still ride my 90's Rocky Mountain and have the pleasure to own a 2020 Instinct as well. A fine Trail Bike. Thanks for the video anyway. I do enjoy them all. As a bot, am I supposed to add three emojis to the comment?

[@realvaughnfelix]

Thank you, I was going to trade in my trail bike for a down country bike, but this reminded me of all the reasons why I love my trail bike…

[@myfrequencies1912]

I turned my xc into a downcountry. We're splitting hairs bro.

[@jakrapup3803]

I have a Whyte 29-C. I wouldn't trade the front fork angle for anything! It's fantastic! The carbon fibre is not a major feature for me. But the geometry, I wouldn't trade, its amazing!

[@ChrisJohnson-ld3wq]

Santa Cruz full 27" 5010 140/130mm works great for me - my home loop is a 1h round trip if i do the short circuit.. thats enough for me to get a ride in a day..

[@markmcdonald5711]

I have the same bike, almost bought a leftover Bronson but then I saw a brand new 5010 on their website that they just got in. It was still in the crate in the warehouse, they didn't even know they had it yet. Bought it that day, plenty enough bike for me.

[@joshuaallswang8016]

I believe the 150/160 travel trail bike is all you need.. my Stumpjumper EVO for the win🔥🔥

[@razzor4708]

in that case 150 mm aggressive 27.5+ tires hartail is all you need for lesser price and less maintenance

[@joshuaallswang8016]

@ lol.. yeah maybe if you want to OTB on a gnarly Decent, Or get bucked on a 6ft drop. Hardtails can’t compete with full suspension on certain trails/terrains. Trust me I had multiple Hardtail’s.

[@HananahBanana]

​@@joshuaallswang8016 agreed. As much as I love hardtails, but even with 150 and 160mm travel, it still bucked and I couldn't go as fast as I wanted. Don't get me wrong, hardtails are perfect to learn on, and if you want to make things more fun (like me, lol). But they cannot compete with a full suspension, hands down. Heck, I actually find full suspension bikes easier to climb with than hardtails on most of the climbing trails around here where I live. Full suspension for the win!

[@joshuaallswang8016]

@@HananahBanana 💯💯

[@EdKihm-x6]

YES! For me, a trail bike is the ultimate all-around fun bike. I like trail riding. I don't do road riding at all, but I occasionally do what I call "urban curbin'" to practice my balance and have fun when I can't be on a trail. I have a Vitus Mythic 29 VRX.

[@gmbn]

What do you find the most fun with "urban curbin" Ed?

[@EdKihm-x6]

@@gmbn I don't have to pack up my bike to go to a trail, I just take it out of the basement and ride around my backyard practicing wheelies and manuals, etc., Neighborhood streets, or the local park. Plenty of curbs (small drop-offs) and even telephone poles are laid down as parking bumpers to ride on or pop over. And railroad tracks, can't forget those.

[@thomasjamescalub5564]

For me it doesn't matter what bike you've got as long as you are comfortable with your bike setup and having fun ☺ Mine is a diamondback recoil 29er XC bike.

[@Taylor5084]

Can’t agree more. I’ve done the lightweight XC bike and then went to the bike travel enduro bike believing bigger was better however, I’ve slowly walked back down the travel and now have a Nukeproof Reactor with 130/150 and couldn’t be happier. It just pedals well and allows me to still run out of skill on the DH. I’ve done long rides, BPW and everything else. Just a good all round bike to have if you only have one bike like me.

[@natehanson4421]

I've used my trail bike on a few xc races and an enduro race. Maybe not ideal for every situation, but definitely capable.

[@HananahBanana]

Bought my fiancé and I a couple of trail bikes recently, and they are perfect for what we want to do and more. Commencal META TR, 29", 150/160mm travel. Personally from my experience, anything less than 150mm sucks for the downhill and the techy stuff. 😅 I still found most of the trail bikes with 150mm and 160mm pretty easy to climb with and more than capable of long distance riding, that I've tried out in the past. Anyhow, each to their own, everyone's preferences is different. 😊

[@drmoynihan]

Love my Commencal Meta TR 29 - She is an incredible mtnbike that loves to be ridden. ❤❤❤ The only trouble is my wife keeps pointing out that I am not riding my other bikes anymore & maybe I should sell them.😂

[@Hiefi97]

The question is not what you need, it's what you want. Ridden S3 Trails on my aggressive Hardtail with a 140mm fork, so it is the only bike i need to do 98% of my bike riding. Despite that i also love my 160/160 Tyee for basicly the same trails. Its just a different feeling. Some day the "basic" HT is more fun, some day i really like the comfort an stability the enduro offers.

[@javiercandela9060]

Hey, that is Savinar area near my home town! If you wish to know more MTB routes in Alicante, just let us know! Demolision Bikers Club in Elche, near Alicante, may help you!

[@carlosblanco9416]

@@javiercandela9060 hey Javier, is it possible to share a link (Wikiloc for exemple) to few gpx files please ?

[@Cowboypt]

Me too. I'm going to Algorfa in the new years and I would love to ride Alicante rad trails!

[@stujm8376]

This is the best vid Rich has ever done, I totally agree about the trail bike, I’m still riding a 26 trail bike and love it. It’s not as good as new bikes but does what I ask of it and doesn’t let me down. It’s also a LOT of fun. 26 isn’t dead, ever…

[@suspendedmofo]

dead af

[@samcragg88]

Trail bike is perfect for me. Stumpjumper 150-130mm travel. On the odd occasion I’d love something more rowdy but there are plenty of times I’ve past people coming up a trail and then then again coming down the trail on their bike enduro bike and wondered to myself why they need all that bike if they can’t ride it.

[@amoore2165]

Agree. Besides a fat bike for the winter I’m only ever going to have one mountain bike and I opted for a trail bike (aka down country bike) for this very reason. Pretty good for everything including jumping. 2023 Trek Top Fuel.

[@Taylor5084]

Can’t agree more. I’ve done the lightweight XC bike and then went to the bike travel enduro bike believing bigger was better however, I’ve slowly walked back down the travel and now have a Nukeproof Reactor with 130/150 and couldn’t be happier. It just pedals well and allows me to still run out of skill on the DH. I’ve done long rides, BPW and everything else. Just a good all round bike to have if you only have one bike like me. Buy a bike for the trails you ride 80% of the time not a bike for the 20% with wish you did.

[@raisagil2897]

Take that same bike, add an XC carbon wheelset(maybe with Berd spokes), XC 2.4 rear tire, a grippy 2.6 enduro front tire, and a higher rise handlebar (60mm rise?). Perfect bike for everything.

[@JeffMTBinVA]

Beautiful scenery, especially along the cliff. My only full sus, Vitus Escarpe CRX, is my all rounder. A 150/140 trail bike is all most need. That said, once I started getting into the real steep and gnarly it's had me looking at 170+ bikes for those times.

[@grahamcheesman9035]

Being 6'3" tall and 94kg I find a longer travel enduro bike the perfect all rounder for me. I ride a 2021 Trek Slash 8 160/170 travel, goes downhill great, and climbs way better than it looks like it should (although tbh if the ride is gonna involve lots of climbing I'm taking my ebike). I previously had a 150/160 trail bike but find the enduro suits me better.

[@sebastians.2351]

That place is called “El Sabinar”. Lots of trials, awesome fun every time I ride there. Greetings from Alicante.

[@bboyramzes]

I've got 3 bikes. Trail bike Specialized Stumpjumper Alloy 2021, used for 1600$ with 140/130. Second is a cheap brand new XC Merida Big Nine 80 2023 for 800$. With plans for future upgrades. And the 3d is old XC Merida Matts 2014 with 26 inch wheels and v brakes. Timeless classic haha. In my area these bikes are covers all my wishes.

[@spencedowns4851]

I have an SB150 (my only bike) to make sure I have the travel for the trails I really love that are a couple hours drive away. When I'm closer to home I also ride mellower local trails with it, and use the firm shock settings to train with it on asphalt and ride gravel with my dad. I certainly think about having another bike in the 115-140 range to do things that are more local to me, but if I can only have one bike the 150 makes sure that I can get to the mountains and have fun safely. I'm not trying to go fast on gravel rides anyway and the yeti goes uphill great with or without the shocks on firm so I'm really not sacrificing too much to be able to have extra travel and comfort.

[@semadragun]

Awesome location and footage that ridge ride was mad!

[@halamagrep9727]

This Trail Bike was an Enduro Bike few years ago

[@nickpethan3083]

Currently love my Ibis Ripley AF with a 140mm fork! But building up my skills to eventually get the Ripmo or similar

[@dirk1296]

The Titel of The Video should be _Is this the only Jersey you Need _ cause this Guy is Not even sweating😂 Great Video - my Orbea Occam is all need 🎉

[@stevebennett3587]

😎Ragley big al, 140mm hardtail is my choice of trailbike👌its all i need for my riding style, and i may swap out the tyres to tweek my riding conditions😃

[@martynprice87]

Trail bike all the way for me. 140/130 is the spot on sweet spot!

[@tolgaakyay]

I have a 29 inch Orbea Occam and pretty much everything, except very demanding blacks. It came with very low end brakes, I only upgraded those.

[@LCNismo]

I have to many to choose from. I have xc, trail, mini euduro, enduro, and downhill.

[@Jorge-Fernandez-Lopez]

Great tracks and landscapes, great bike, great video and presenter too. Thank you.

[@jurisx85]

My humble modified Marin Bobcat Trail is the only bike I need. 😅. When I'm not riding im thinking I should get a FS, but when riding im thinking my bike can truly do it all. 😅😅

[@miindthegaap]

CANYON SPECTRAL 125, always puts a smile on my face

[@gmbn]

Same! Really enjoyed that bike, we had one a while back

[@krehme]

It looks to me like the suspension was set up rather soft. I wonder if the wizards of tech will be adding live adjustable suspension in the future. My motorcycle has 4 presets that I can select during my ride. I know lockouts are old hat, but binary isn’t always the perfect fit.

[@radeko.9918]

So obvious color combination of this bike but somehow it is always in my mind to have it. I guess it is not only my dream especially regarding orange Fox

[@farwoodfarm9296]

Man that trail is fabulous.

[@peniakfoto]

You right - 140/150 is sweet spot, My stumpy 130-140 is o.k. for long rides and it is also funny and agile bike for trails. But my AM bike Kona Process 153 is a bit slower uphil but much more safe and fun for downhill and for bigger hits and jumps and it is still cornering like a champ. I also have enduro monster Kenevo SL 170/170 but it is very small difference between Kona and Kenevo, both bikes are safe and very stable with very nice suspension. Stumpy is a bit nervous in big rocks jumps and drops and too long chainstais is bad in short corners.

[@IdrisFashan]

You guys need to shout out your production team. Holy shit, these edits and shots are amazing. Rep your whole team, yeah? 💙

[@MiGueLGonzalez-c2i]

They do GMBN. You think only they get paid? Camera crew does too and I'm sure they also enjoy the bikes they get to ride on!

[@IdrisFashan]

@ what are you talking about? Fee rides isn’t a real benefit. 😂 I work in content. Plenty of people shout out their production team. GMBN is a project, but I don’t know who bankrolls it. I just wish they credited the people who actually produce the content once in a while. EMBN does a much better job of that. Same funder… 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@gmbn]

Our presenters do shoutout the creators from time to time, normally in the weekly shows. We are proud to have a great team here at GMBN from the presenters, filmer/editors, and other people behind the scenes in various roles.

[@aussiebg2628]

Love my Merida 140 from '21 - it was the last of their 27.5 models before the new design 29ers. 140R/150F and it's solid as a rock. Not as slack HTA as the bike in the video means climbing is a bit easier and the 27.5 wheels make it very nimble. A rider much better than me could take it off serious drops and I reckon it would only fail on the top 10% of steep trails. Put the right tyres on and it would be Ok for XC rides as well. I do have an XC bike though for longer and faster rides with more climbing.

[@SwordFighterPKN]

Looks just like CA. LOL 120-150 is all the travel I feel I need but I started in the days of 80mm being a lot.

[@sheen675]

Yeti ASR 120/115 is for me a perfect one do it all :)

[@raulcapelo8091]

Thanks for coming to Alicante😊😊 “El sabinar “ best ride you can find here

[@BlueLineRider]

Charlie Murray races on a trail bike, and as for results, he is within the top 5 last season.

[@radeko.9918]

It would be more versatile if it would be equipped with remote lock mechanizm for fork and damper. I've upgraded my trail bike with one and it huge difference on climbing. Without it is like you have flat tire

[@markyp1965]

Looking at options for a new bike, ahead of hopefully getting one Spring/Summer next year, and Propain (Tyee or Hugene) look good. Definitely right up there in terms of value for money, too.

[@cosminmarius3675]

Trek Slash 9.8 xt gen 5, the quiver-killer mtbike!!

[@jonpoon3896]

Dare I say.. a downcountry bike? An XC frame with 130mm suspension

[@Pahakers526]

I am happy with my Tyee as all around.

[@letsgoletsgoletsgoletsgoletsgo]

with the prices of bikes these days .... 1 bike is all i can afford , so the question is , which one do you want to optimise for ? climbing or downhill ?

[@christophenglert4831]

alicante is really nice to have bikerides :)

[@anthonygain7645]

Unless you are a lift up, bombing downhill in bike park rider, then a modern XC bike will cover almost everything you need. They are plenty capable downhill which is the shortest time on a ride. The lighter more aggressive positioning will get you further faster on the flats and especially uphill. Most of all rides is up and along, so why buy a bike for the shortest section of riding time?.

[@davidmaskew]

A trail bike is the only bike i would ever need. I think i rode around that area about 30 years ago on a holiday with some mates but that was on an Orange E3 hardtail with Pace forks with 2" of travel 😂😂😂

[@cavanero_]

always get max travel for fun and then work your fitness til it catches up. Then you’ll be a beast on any lesser travel bike you ride. Simple.

[@Chubbyfella1100]

I have a trail bike and I find that’s it’s great for jumps, local trails and xc but it gets a little out of control in bike parks

[@bmo72]

I still ride an original 1993 Cannondale super v900 and it works great. I paid $450 for it a couple years ago.

[@rusterkat1188]

I demand Martin dends you to Whistler next year to continue research on this topic.

[@cristoof59]

Yes 150mm trail/AM bikes are the allrounder MTB but now I had a taste of 170mm I will never go under that 😁 Edit : Except for a hardtrail 😅

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

In the early 2k to 2014 I switched to freeriding bikes with all the travel, then got a couple of trail bikes and back, now I'm happy with bikes 140 to 160 it makes the terrain come alive it's a bit more entertaining 😜

[@barfo281]

My 2023 Kona Mahuna is the only bike I need.....for the type of riding that I do.

[@ralphcrosby4051]

Thanks for the adventure beautiful country and trails. How would my hardtail fair on those trails cheers and looking forward to more 👍

[@WorkLessRideMore]

Most rides its my 160/150 Ripmo af. Bike parks or big feature days its my yt tues. Dirt jumps or pump track its my Pivot Point. Skatepark its my bmx.

[@skinny8019]

rocking a custom giant trance x 150/135...77.2 seat tube...65.5 head tube....25.6 lbs!!! lets call it DCT...down country trail..lol

[@plainuser48596]

I would love me a Propain Tyee CF, except it has that dumb through headset routing, so I went to competition

[@SimonHollandfilms]

nicely made video. question. what do you do, if you fall off and hurt yourself? how do you get help? have you told a friend, where you are going? might make an interesting film.. 'Planning for disaster' cheers.. Simon Holland filmmaker France

[@gmbn]

Hi Simon, in this case we're a small crew out shooting, but on a regular ride yes, inform people where we're headed. We usually ride with friends though so solo rides are rare

[@craigweightman799]

I'm not an expert at anything so a trail bike does everything i need it to do.

[@arrowhe4d]

Yes. Trail bike is the one. The all-rounder. But my stumpjumper is also an all rounder. Lol😅

[@harryfettes393]

Trek Remedy 9.8 and the enduro stuff is covered and more nimble than a 29r

[@adamlowe9723]

Dictionaries have words Rich, not pictures. What you’re thinking of is a relic called an encyclopaedia!

[@tonyb9735]

My old steed was sold as an "All Mountain" bike, I guess these days that same niche is called a trail bike? Or is there a difference?

[@TheDonVader]

You can do anything you set your mind to. If you keep telling yourself your broke then you’ll always be broke. Get up and go get what you want. I use to say things like this and I was my biggest enemy.

[@nstrug]

Used to have a 150mm travel trail bike and downgraded to a 120mm carbon XC. So much lighter and faster and the most ‘serious’ stuff I do is BPW reds 150mm travel was serious overkill.

[@benjy288]

Did someone mention lightweight? that's not really the case for many modern trail bikes anymore, some are over 16kg with pedals, even many expensive carbon trail bikes are approaching 15kg with pedals

[@marksandoval5361]

If I could only have one mountain bike or I was recommending a first mountain bike, it would be a full-sus with a 160mm fork and about a 64.5* HTA.

[@xavier7279]

Really beautiful location

[@adamjackson8602]

Polygon sisku t8, love it

[@Kiaan04]

The fact that I can't even afford a kids tricycle and u guys are spending so much on bikes is CRAZY!!! No hate or anything but DAMN, this is an expensive hobby. Gotta start saving!

[@danielsimmonds5162]

Buy 2nd hand, there's loads out there!! Lots of "COVID" I'm gonna get fit...Not!!

[@gunshipanropace2gunshipand119]

Its called Passion

[@DanWebb8080]

You can do it all on a cheap hard tail but it sure is nice to have thease luxury items i spent £5k on bikes and only £750 on my car its crazy

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

People you see on KZbin have sponsorship deals man, most other use financing to buy bikes, I'm not fond of the interest so I get mid tier bikes and upgrade them 😊

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

​@@DanWebb8080 it's perfectly fine when you don't have more urgent priorities, when I had no family I was buying the latest n greatest every year, same with skis, now I take it easy with 4x everything 😂

[@nicks8026]

Betteridge’s Law of Headlines

[@SylvainProov]

Wow 73,1° of Seat tube angle... it's low for a modern bike. I ride a Scor 4060 ST, it''s 78° 😁

[@michal.laskowski.]

XC HT is the one to go

[@Yhoda.PsyTrakked]

I currently have a road bike and was going to get a enduro then decided on a trail bike and a DH bike for the parks. I think an enduro is overbiked and of course a trail isnt as good as a DH for pure DH so i thought 3 bikes instead of 2 😂

[@Cowboypt]

Hey, can i get the GPX file? For a friend 😊

[@akosyjonathan]

How tall is the roder

[@Gardian_1]

hey, I want to go on long few day bike ride (it will be mostly roads) and then mostly use bike on mountain biking but idk what bike I should get can someone help me with that. Thanks.

[@ManVersusWilderness]

But would you ride a trail bike on a DH trail?

[@dannyheyrman4848]

sure, just not a as fast. but would you ride a DH uphil on a mtb trail loop?

[@ZackaryTwiddles1]

Umm your bottoming out the front fork on almost all of the first couple descents you show? Either it was setup wrong or your estimation of its performance was a little off...

[@SolidxSnakexDuke]

Before my focus spine 120mm trailbike was stolen i dont need another bike but jet i ride only my 26"bike cc bike only 100mm on the front Edit: i like a race optimised geo.

[@kangsterizer]

1) its an ad for a propain bike, let's not bury that too much 2) this trail bike is equipped like an enduro bike, not far off actual enduro bikes imo. its a "slightly more pedaly" version of your enduro bike. the stiffness of the frame and its geo matter more than 1-2cm of travel (specially on progressive trail bikes vs not-so-progressive enduro bikes) 3) while there can be a slighly better bike for every mountain, rider, and riding style, I think that, proper "downcountry" is where its at (e.g. transition spur, not, specialized epic evo - i.e. it really needs the aggressive geo). light enough to not rly need a motor, yet fun and capable, just not as "smash" or "hammery" as an enduro or your "trailduro" promoted bike 4) in europe, spain is awesome - just enough mountains, just enough grade that its great to ride new places all the time (compared to the really steep alps, or smaller british mountains for example)

[@Dukhanstmichmal]

This is literally propains oldest bike in their lineup - still an awesome bike, love mine.

[@kangsterizer]

@@Dukhanstmichmal this is like saying the stumpjumper is an old bike though. the goal is to showcase sponsors bikes

[@Dukhanstmichmal]

@@kangsterizer Isnt that the purpose of the Channel? Like no matter the video topic they are always going to use some sponsored bike. And he didnt massively praise the Hugene in specific... He was just using IT AS an example of a trail bike.

[@kangsterizer]

@@Dukhanstmichmal like i said, lets not bury that too much - of course, they're sponsored, thats fine. but, imagine being in their shoes: you have to poop out a new video every X days, featuring specific sponsors - this leads to this type of video, and thats why you have this type of bike. Do you know which type of bike Propain doesnt have in their line up? Exactly - that's why. The hugene is the lightest mtb they have, but they do not have the newer, aggressive geo-yet-actually-light trail bikes (like the spur, and a few others). What's interesting is that just 5-7 years ago, trail bikes were in fact great for this type of riding . current "trail bikes" are yesterday's enduro bikes (eg hugene!), and a "new" xc++ came up, which are basically the "better trail bikes" and honestly a lot more fun for such long day , non-ebike climbs. But again.. propain does not yet have this in their line up, so they can't feature one.

[@richardpayne5176]

@@Dukhanstmichmal BINGO! This guy gets it. Thanks dude 👊

[@ish474]

Yes a trail bike is all you need but you also only need one pair of shoes technically

[@kurtisprodrive9277]

Hardtail trailbike even better on the climbs

[@ThomasGrundmann-Kahr]

bike parks are fun but if im honest: 90 percent trails for me. if my trail bike is not enough i can easily borrow an enduro or even dh bike at any park.

[@richardwyatt1723]

Why does Rich have two SRAM pods?

[@_Inferis]

Dropper

[@richardwyatt1723]

My axs dropper doesn't have a pod, plus you only need one button...

[@_Inferis]

@@richardwyatt1723 Mine works telepathically, its the future.

[@CwLi-db3sb]

I think 160/150 should be a All mountain bike.

[@Dukhanstmichmal]

I own a Hugene and even though it is not my only bike (also have a gravel bike and a bigger E-Enduro), it would be the last bike I would get rid of. It can and will do anything including bikepark but it will also allow me to do long pedal-epics where my E-Bike would run out of juice after half a day.

[@gmbn]

That's a good combination of bikes! So the gravel bike would be first to go? 😉

[@grahamphillips3099]

what does it weigh?

[@Shane_has_a_muddy_bike-rx2dv]

exactly.

[@Dukhanstmichmal]

@@Shane_has_a_muddy_bike-rx2dv Mine is around 14kg in XL with alloy enduro wheels and beefy enduro tires. If you go for carbon wheels and trail/XC tires I would guess you can easily get below 13kg, maybe even below 12, especially on the smaller frames.