Gnomeregan Raid Will be Excellent - These are the Reasons Why | WoW Season of Discovery

[@anarchy8263]

100% mechano-spider, hope it gets some kind of fun non combat spell too

[@hopeyj1111]

I have a feeling Blizzard initially planned the phase 2 level cap to be 35, which explains the crowd pummeler stats.

[@Bigbobbedboi]

Yeah that's definitely possible.

[@glennrichardson8883]

“What we gno” had me rollin for some reason 🤣🤣

[@Sarthetv]

great vid, very solid predictions

[@mAv64uk]

Some kind of insane gauntlet in the part that leads down to the last boss room. I'm thinking the raid in the centre part and some kind of lightning wall closes up behind us and slowly chases the raid. There will be normal packs of mobs with the mines and the robots that go immune plus new mobs on the top levesl that ranged have to take out. Maybe a new Alarm bot boss at the end.

[@crane8552]

I want them to add an in-raid mount like AQ40 personally. Give us all a red mechanostrider to ride around on inside! Gnomeregan is massive!

[@GonkOrange]

Would be awesome!

[@Bigbobbedboi]

omg that's an excellent idea I didn't think about that.

[@GonkOrange]

Loved the video man, thanks for taking the time!

[@lucasbarros822]

I want that eletrical helm scaled up, it was an aoe farming gem for prot paladins. Surely can can work something awsome with that item along thosw lines, to allow melee some more aoe dmg

[@Clevertank-LL]

Great video, i hope your channel picks up. I know i will stay tuned

[@calledit4428]

Great video!! Really loving your content dude. Super chill and informative and you have somre really good takes. Keep it up!

[@lfgubrs]

As much as Gnomeregan is a ok choice for a raid I really think they missed a huge opportunity to make Scarlet Monastery the level 40 bracket end raid. The potential are just limitless and that could have been so epic.

[@clorett15]

I agree! I think the challenge was turning 3 dungeons into 3 raids. While taking gnomergon out for leveling is painful removing 3 dungeons would be worse.

[@Bman24641]

I wouldn’t be too disappointed- got a feeling the lvl 50 raid will be SM 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Crey_Rob]

100% My only hope is that they have a 60 scarlet raid in the plan and didnt want to double up.

[@Pettzn]

SM should be 40 and BRD 50

[@tonytimede]

Scarlet monestary should definitely be the raid. Best dungeons ever.

[@Zook1373]

I didn’t even think about mount drops. Hot damn slam that mechanospider button. Even the white and black strider is badass. I was excited before but now just thinking of the possibilities. Hyped.

[@matthewdunann]

Gizmotron megachopper!!!! I can’t freaking wait for this.

[@Bigbobbedboi]

Oh yeeeah a new version of Gizmotron would be dope.

[@zhowdeshell]

we just ignoring the CD on the automatic pummeler? If thats the final version unless theres large sweeping changes for them arent cats kinda left in the dark?

[@pancreasdragonheart9765]

Since we had epic weapons in phase 1, I'm guessing we will see epic armor items in phase 2 such as the head, shield from Gnome and perhaps a trinket or ring?

[@MrGlennJohnsen]

I'm expecting Engineers and Alchemists to get craftable trinkets, Gnomergan is really techy (engineers) and full of those slimes (alchemy related?), plus both professions already have craftable trinkets in their "lore".

[@blakel.6337]

Hated this dungeon back in the day, but dayum there's good loot. Can't wait to see the raid version

[@TomValentine89]

i love gnomer been in there a lot but used 2 play alli but heally hyped to go in again ;D cant wait

[@Bman24641]

I’m so excited for phase 2!! But god do I despise Gnomer… I was devastated to see that Gnomer was going to be the raid. I hated the dungeon, and to know that we’ll be clearing this damn thing every 3 days or so is haunting my dreams 😭

[@jdmanjd1013]

I think the team did well to pick less popular dugeons to convert into raids in the early phases. I think BFD is a great raid, but was really weak in classic. Hopefully Gnomer will get the same treatment. The bosses could be really cool with actual mechanics, the dungeon is big enough to have epic set piece fights.

[@taylenday]

I sincerely thought the level 40 Raid would be Scarlett Monastery. Gnomer seems totally out of place for a level 40 Raid.

[@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves]

Triprunner Dungarees are gonna be epic, bet.

[@levonschaftin3676]

isn't the gnomer exit supposed to go to the airstrip in Dun Morogh? just a guess, but seems to make sense

[@Bigbobbedboi]

I looked up there, but didn't see that exit. I'll try to remember to add some airstrip footage in the next vid.

[@FREEkdaman]

No, thats on the other side of Iron Forge. Iron Forge was going to be mush larger in vanilla but they scaled it back as it was to big. If anything they should use that old IF for a Grim Batol raid.

[@PootisPenserPow]

There is one person with the florescent green mech. Iirc he was given it by mistake after deleting his mount and they allowed him to keep it.

[@Bigbobbedboi]

I think I remember hearing that as well.

[@matthuckleberry5238]

gnomer HYPE gnomer HYPE

[@asaki2769]

I wonder if the backdoor will still be a thing!

[@TheIrishdude85]

hopefully some epic engin googles or epic mount sounds good to me

[@diddymies]

people forget that in original wow, gnomergan was designed to a be a city but then they decided to do a raid, but that did get scrapped. And we got a dungeon instead. This is very good nod to old devs and also what they said they would do, maybe using old ideas what never came to retail. Thats why gnomergan is so huge. Pretty sure they used some of the textures from development to the Iron Forge gnome section and deeprun tram, what they intented to gnomergan.

[@dashbb1]

Praying to hunter Jesus for raid mount drops, that spider idea is dope shiiieeeet

[@Hifcrea]

SM is gonna be so farmed and burnt out going from 30-40. To have it return as a 50 raid would be a little too redundant. BRD is really the key. It’d be a lot of work for them, but dam that’d be epic. Can’t wait for gnomergan

[@lfgubrs]

Sunken Temple or even Zul'Farrak seems more likely to be the lvl 50 raid but I agree BRD would be dope.

[@Cynsham]

Sunken Temple, Zulfarrak, Mara are all excellent choice for higher level raids

[@Cypher-Six]

If SM is available in phase 2 then it won't be a 50 raid, so there will be the answer right off the bat. I did think SM raid at 50 was a bit weird too, yes they could scale it up, but it would make more sense to do a scarlet version at 60 in EPL. Sunken temple makes more sense for sure at 50, BRD would be a 60 revamped dungeon, they won't raid that for sure, there are too many other options at 60 to play with.

[@chazfernandes9840]

Isnt the ilvl and weapon dmg on it irrelevant in regards to feral?

[@Bigbobbedboi]

For feral dps, yeah that doesn't really matter.

[@Zook1373]

Also they might have improved engineering recipes since some dropped from last boss. Maybe some new goggles like future expansions of each armor class?

[@Bigbobbedboi]

That would be really cool.

[@wartorrlol649]

The thoughts about the mounts i love it, f yeah

[@montygamer9287]

I bet there will be an epic upgrade for mcp, like bfd crafted items but for engi

[@PaulSman123]

I want an epic Thermaplugg's Central Core. Maybe add 18 stam and 10 str with better armor and better block. Would be dope!!!

[@joesun1015]

Like your vids keep it up!

[@danielking3066]

Hyped for phase two and gnomer!

[@DUD3_BR0]

I'm less curious about the raid and more interested in other things they'll add. Everyone talked about how SoD is supposed to be like classic plus, but apart from a raid each phase and the runes, nothing has really changed. I'd like to see them implement other stuff. Maybe mechanics or features from other expansions that really added to the game and were well received.

[@undacuvabrotha]

bro the runes made massive changes for classes lol

[@anarchy8263]

@@undacuvabrotha made them all overpowered in a 20 year old world and changed nothing else?.... its like they got the 2 shittest ideas they had and went with the laziest route possible

[@undacuvabrotha]

@@anarchy8263 but how can you say nothing else has changed when things have changed?

[@taylenday]

Mechano-Spider mount would be sick!

[@bigbubbles55]

I wanna see more cool profession stuff. and epic engi pattern and maybe something new for gathering profs

[@Bigbobbedboi]

They gotttta do something cool for engi in here.

[@Vondarkstar]

I want mass entanglement rune for Druid that adds a cd but can be used indoors 😮

[@Bigbobbedboi]

That would be really cool. Even a rune to root indoors would be kinda nice.

[@MrGlennJohnsen]

As Leatherworkers, Blacksmiths and Tailorers got special crafting in Phase 1 I fully expect Engineers and Alchemists to get some interesting crafts in Phase 2. I can imagine trinkets being crafted in addition to new consumables, the only thing I'm not 100% sure on is if Enchanters will get something new for Phase 2 ...they should, but I don't see the automatic link to Gnomergan.

[@BIacklce]

engineering doesnt need anything more than what they get tbh, but ill still pig if they do

[@Bigbobbedboi]

That's actually a really interesting idea, I hadn't given much thought to what new prof stuff would show up in the raid.

[@henryscott4811]

what server ya on too!

[@Bigbobbedboi]

Mainly Wild Growth.

[@eugenegarcia2134]

Some cool thoughts!

[@undertyped1]

I am hyped. Is anyone else hyped for the hundreds of rogue bots flying underneath gnomeragon?! Hell yeah!

[@Bigbobbedboi]

Actually, I slightly am. You can stand at the entrance and wreck them when they zone out. I killed a bunch at SFK with my rogue like that.

[@Zantsmith]

i guarantee that there will be an epic version of the automated crowed pummler , possibly involving a profession to upgrade it, perhaps hydrocane will also see a change and be bis for frost mages since they were so bad in phase 1, and if they are gonnna drop mounts i hope they do the mecha tanks idc how goofy it looks ive always wanted one of the original mecha tanks to be a mount.

[@Bigbobbedboi]

Upgrading ACP is an interesting idea, I didn't think of that.

[@joshualynn5644]

I love the SoD videos keep it up

[@BW-og1vu]

Loot is nice and fine, but first i would like to know how they plan for the Horde to enter the Instance. Always running that long way from the nearest Horde Base is annyoing 🙂

[@RobertsolutioM]

They have a teleport in BB

[@BW-og1vu]

@@RobertsolutioM Thx 4 the info

[@Bigbobbedboi]

At some point in the video I showed that goblin by a teleporter, that's where horde teleports in.

[@BW-og1vu]

@@Bigbobbedboi thx must have missed that.

[@Germ4ch]

Can't await to see the new hunter runes...

[@hcliff2100]

Anyone else notice this guy sounds like Edwin Vancleef “lapdogs, all ofyou”

[@Bigbobbedboi]

I normally get the stormwind guards, but I'll take VanCleef.

[@henryscott4811]

It definitely will!

[@SENTlNEL]

definitely looking for a fat hydrocane epic with some big spellpower slapped onto it, needs to be some better staff than staff of jordan in phase 2

[@Bman24641]

I mean the lvl 25 epic staff is already better than staff of Jordan 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@SENTlNEL]

@@Bman24641 I know but it doesn't exist

[@Bigbobbedboi]

I kinda thought they would make it some kind of set with the swimspeed ring from BFD. Next raid we another piece of swim gear and by 60 we have a full swimsuit set.

[@ZipCasey]

Mech spider would be sick AF

[@goldenwarrio2603]

I see engineers and enchanters getting something to craft

[@ulyssescadet5210]

Id know that terraria music anywhere brings back memories

[@aBradAbroad]

Nice video. Here's an engagement metric for ya

[@BIacklce]

so long as we dont have to do the mine tunnel event im ok with Gnomer

[@chuppathingy2848]

Now im sure theyll add more weps, but Pummler should be epic.

[@Kanggaxx]

So what you are saying is that Gnomeregan will drop gear? Woah

[@gregorybyram7021]

Let’s fucking go mechspider

[@nicholasdonohue4997]

Gnomer is up there with Mara for my least favourite classic dungeon. Scarlet Monastery would have been really cool considering they could have linked all 4 into one major run where you go from the graveyard to the barracks, lib and then cath for the final portion. It would have taken some work but its such a missed opportunity for discovery. Gnomer just seems like the safer/easier route by comparison.

[@dflowers6771]

they wouldnt even have to redo the map just add portals that will take you to the next raid, or have all the iconic bosses crammed inside cath

[@YourSweatyUncle]

They already did try your stupid idea in mop and it sucked ass

[@Bigbobbedboi]

They teased something for SM, so it could be a future raid but.... you don't like Mara!? Mara is awesome bro.

[@nicholasdonohue4997]

@@Bigbobbedboi Princess runs were fine, the 2 earlier sections, not so much

[@lolkuuj6859]

SM is 50, Kara is 60. They already spoiled this during the BlizzCon reveal.

[@sayamacd]

Most important thing to me is going to be the size of the raid. I want it to be at least a 20man if not a 25man raid.

[@bradveach4832]

Yes please mechano spider that would be hella cool. Shaman tauren popping uot

[@ForbiddenFollyFollower]

If they add special mounts in gnomer they should be 70% speed since it's unlikely there could be epic versions of them.

[@Bigbobbedboi]

Yeah that's actually a good idea.

[@zdubzz1280]

I’m not sure why there would be an epic healing weapon when there already is one this phase. Seems like people will still be farming bfd for it next phase

[@Graahk-r8u]

February 8th…. holy SNOOZE another month 😂 did they just start working on gnomer?

[@Bigbobbedboi]

Yeah definitely later than I was hoping for.

[@sickish]

i've always loved gnomer and gnomes but like most people I think it should have been SM at 40

[@sunarubtw]

This was a dope fuckin video

[@stianhaugen4016]

Gief Mech-o-Strider! /Roll 1337

[@NatureScapeShorts]

Would sell my left ball for a mechanospider mount

[@Moneyyang89]

"Whoolly Shiiat"

[@jasonlau4775]

higher volume please

[@Bigbobbedboi]

Is this video specifically low for you or all of them?

[@Reportedd]

definitely should’ve been scarlet monastery

[@mtoveyx10]

SoD Hype

[@BreakerBeat]

To be honest, I am a bit disappointed that Gnomeregan is the raid, simply because i dislike the overall theme of it. I don't really look forward to spending my time there. While I can understand if we don't get SM as a raid, as it might cause us to lack dungeons at lvl 40 and it might just be too many bosses, it also seems like a huge missed opportunity. At the very least I hope for Uldaman as a second raid, but I just don't think we will see two raids in phase 2. At the end of the day, it is classic style raids, so it is simple fights. As such, if I do not like the theme of the raid, it's a huge deal. I'm sure I'll have fun in phase 2, but phase 3 is really what I look forward to. Zul'Farrak, Maraudon, Sunken Temple and Blackrock Depths are all fun dungeons, and I'd be happy with any of those as a raid.

[@Bigbobbedboi]

That was my original thought as well, but tbh, I didn't ever really like the BFD dungeon and I really enjoyed the BFD raid. Since I didn't like the Gnomer dungeon all that well, I'm kinda thinking it'll end up the same as BFD.

[@cypfer8851]

I hope that most of the Gnomer raid won't be immune to bleeds and stings..

[@dflowers6771]

they should release 2 raids for the upcoming tier having only BFD to raid feels kinda empty even with multiple characters.. release SM cath and place all the end bosses from SM inside cath

[@Bigbobbedboi]

I actually thought about this. I do think there's a fairly good chance we get more than just gnomer. They did tease SM as well, so maybe it's that or maybe SM will be the 50 raid. I was hoping we would get the gnomer raid and something kind of like Onyxia.

[@Taziod]

Hope they add an epic weapon that more than a single spec on horde really cares to use. Although I really hope they let shamans wear plate. That would open up gearing big time for horde.

[@dflowers6771]

plate shamans would be amazing

[@YourSweatyUncle]

Yeah because your fucking tank shamans arent invincible enough already with leather?????

[@lolwtfldr3]

👍

[@benjaminhartman4488]

I loved BFD, but I am so so so so so frustrated with the drop rates. I have run all lockouts except 2 and my feral druid has never seen the head or chest tier set drop. Even if it drops, we compete with rogues and hunters for the same set. Blizzard needs to fix this in phase 2. It is making me want to quit.

[@Bigbobbedboi]

I had the leather head drop once, lost roll and guy changed classes next raid lol. Hadn't seen it drop since, then we had 2 drop and an artemis cowl drop in the same raid. It's gonna happen, you need only believe in HJ.

[@Smitherzjay]

I vote mechanospider

[@justinsmith1182]

They better make Mara a raid for the 50s. Fav dungeon right there.

[@Bigbobbedboi]

I'm a little worried they aren't going to do anything with Mara. I want a Mara raid for lvl 50 so bad. But at blizzcon they teased gnomer, sm and kara.. that could be the 40, 50 and 60 raids. I hope that's not the case.

[@alejandroyanesmartin5084]

Please make it 20man and release it already

[@porkrot]

Engagement

[@Finndl101]

Don't forget to pray to Hunter Jesus that we don't get a BiS gun!

[@xDoleYT]

No melee hunter guide :’)

[@Bigbobbedboi]

Well... it's almost done. And I'm going to start streaming melee hunter in like.. 15 minutes!

[@tonytimede]

Will be horrible for horde...hope they put a portal or something. And almost everyone hates gnomer. SM should be The raid.

[@shodan785]

Bfd was also massively skipped and yet most ppl enjoy it as a raid. Also there is a portal from bb

[@Bigbobbedboi]

Horde has a teleporter in bootybay that takes you to gnomer, which isn't too bad.

[@loganedwards5701]

They better change the weapon speed on the 2hs 😅

[@Holdfart]

Engagement comment.

[@KevinArcade87]

I really don't want to see new mounts besides the already existing colours that never were available to the player for one reason or another

[@Bigbobbedboi]

I wouldn't mind as long as it's a mount that should have existed in the first place, like a mechano spider. But that black and white mechano... oh yes, I need that.

[@haSiii1994]

I AM THE BIGBOI YOU STOLE GIVE BACK PLS

[@tokopaaisen2927]

not with this kind of rng drop rate. Sick and tired already

[@Bigbobbedboi]

I've had some weird drops in BFD for sure. I've seen the xbow 5 or 6 times now, sword once, staff once.

[@joshvoisin4353]

You lost me the second you started talking about item level, when it comes to classic ilevel is irrelevant, stop using it for classic and sod.

[@hvdiv17]

Sod is going to end up like classic wrath all gdkps raids at 60 good luck finding a raid guild be sure to buy your illegal wow gold like they all do🤣 Classic wow is worse then retail wow

[@realduox]

bleed /poison classes in shambles thinking about gnomer. They would be total idiots to make anything but weapons epic.

[@shodan785]

The biggest hit is to warriors but they are top dps rn so I think we might see a meta change. Low-key would like to see casters pull up next phase

[@jamespadgett8660]

mutilate/backstab time to shine?!

[@Dewwwwvwvwvw]

@@shodan785 warriors are going to most likely be fury,which actually has no access to deepwounds at lvl 40, and rend doesnt scale so very unlikely we will use it anymore. warriors not going to be going anywhere lol

[@shodan785]

@@Dewwwwvwvwvw well thing is even w/o much credit deep wounds rn is like 30% of dmg if not more cause of double dipping or w.e. Rend is insignificant as is. So dropping 30% from dw and getting as much from deep fury talents would most likely be net 0. So warriors might not jump as much as one would expect looking at logs now. But it’s all assumptions without knowing loot/runes/mechanics

[@Dewwwwvwvwvw]

@@shodan785 with warriors having completely broken scaling,and them ALREADY having trouble dumping rage, i just dont see any normal scenario where they would move in the rankins. they might get competition if other classes with hyper scaling get specific runes(fire mages getting cooldowns to make very big ignites,or hunters getting steadyshot so they can make use of rapidfire). the class is just fundamentally broken unless some other class gets new beneficial bugs or some fiasco eg hunter pets prenerf. and that is assuming they keep mechanicals immune to bleed ofc,if not arms might be crazy too

[@logic9436]

Another "TRUST ME BRO" video....

[@levonschaftin3676]

?

[@EsrohNchainS]

Wasn’t any good hunter stuff

[@Bigbobbedboi]

I expect a decent gun, new version of triprunner and that's about it. We got the epic xbow so probably be a while before we see certified dope sheeeit hunter loot.

[@moveax1]

Oh joy raid lockouts with timers. This game is just boring artificial scarcity. It's not even based on skill but time sink grind. Save yourself stop playing artificial scarcity grind. How can you play this trash and not feel manipulated?

[@Bigbobbedboi]

Raid lockouts with timers? What? I mean... every real raid since vanilla has had a lockout.

[@Excentrix54]

Look I found someone that has. Ever actually played

[@anarchy8263]

BFD was shit, it was an old dungeon with a couple new boss mechanics... its boring after the 2nd pass (20 years and thats all we got) Gnomer will be the same sadly, at least its not an overdone dungeon so new scenery will be nice why isnt gomer map being changed slightly?, why cant they add in new dungeon mechanics? and change some of the mobs?, why isnt there a challenge room? like BRD's torch run>? because blizzard are lazy as F

[@shaunybonny688]

Are the colors on your channel/thumbnails supposed to represent the trans flag?

[@ToHonorKnowledge]

Nah hard miss here. Gnomer was probably the worst dungeon they could have made a raid, especially over SM? Come on. Proof blizz doesn’t know what their players actually enjoy

[@Bigbobbedboi]

BFD was not one of my favorite dungeons but the raid ended up good and they also teased something for SM. I also kinda don't mind missing gnomer for leveling.

[@lolkuuj6859]

You been MIA the last several months? BlizzCon announcement already heavily implied BFD (25), Gnomer (40), SM (50), and Kara (60) is the raid roadmap. Proof you’d rather bitch than read. They’re tying up the major loose end storylines from Classic that never saw the light of day or never saw their payoff. Given the context surround Xal’atath appearing in SoD, Twilight rumblings in BFD, Thermaplugg’s connections to the Dark Irons and therefore Twilight factions it makes a hell of a lot more sense contextually. Naturally it’ll lead us to SM as we’ve already had plenty of lore surrounding Light and Void with the Scarlet Crusade being the antithesis to the Twilight while working towards similar evil ends - before we trek into the Plaguelands, and Kara will likely serve as the narrative thread as it can manipulate space and time just as CoT in many respects. The foundational stories we’re getting here serve as a platform for the retail trilogy story they’re moving forward with in Metzen’s tutelage.

[@Stompinwind]

So far SoD has only disappointed, i won't even continue play if devs continue on this course. Ignoring players nor fixing anything, only balancing hunters, bfd too easy. Not much discovery and now we are awaiting p2 and no mention of it

[@ashleyalderson4809]

cry more?

[@dtrtf5904]

The first month was really good, but 2 months is too much, for lvl 25 content.

[@Stompinwind]

@@ashleyalderson4809 no just stating facts nor going to let them make money off me pouring out trash content and ignoring players. And i am not one of the people who play retail or looking forward to cata, I am only here for SoD, so I am the person that if they don't make happy they lose money

[@YourSweatyUncle]

​@@Stompinwindok good bye tourist

[@Stompinwind]

@@YourSweatyUncle lol you don't know what a tourist is I was an alpha tester, Elitist Jerk in original wow top 10 world raider in vanilla tbc vanilla wrath vanilla cata and BFA. I am an intelligent sweat that you I just am done playing a game where they continue to ignore the players