SoD Hunter will be amazing in P2, but it needs some things.. | WoW Classic Season of Discovery

[@marshallconner9890]

Rune of Dev Shield - While equiped no nerfs may affect the Hunter as they will be immune to all content updates that negatively impact them.

[@alexeypalamarenko8393]

Most Wanted Rune: WotLK Disengage.

[@Parzival.007]

THIS

[@SimonRobeyns]

after trap launcher maybe, traps saw little to no use for me in P1 so with this ability and the in-combat use, it's pretty exciting

[@Parzival.007]

@@SimonRobeyns traps do next to no damage right now, if they increase trap damage then I’ll use it in PvE, but right now trap launcher is a PvP only rune

[@SimonRobeyns]

true, also good for levelling i suppose. Still adds a bit of fun though.@@Parzival.007

[@dwtdwtdwt]

Cataclysm or Mist of Pandaria was the best iteration of Huntard. This coming from an old school vanilla Andy. The Hunter with focus instead of mana as a resource really made all the difference in the world.

[@snorkeltime4840]

The only youtube channel's intros that i never skip. Love this guy.

[@alfavhunter7010]

Rune of the possum -feign death now makes you take 50% reduced damage while feign death is active and the pet also gains play dead and it has this effect as well. Now hunter has a defensive CD, and while it is very strong, it stops the hunter from doing any damage while having the CD, and cannot tank mobs with it because it drops aggro.

[@WingTzu343]

that would be insanely OP in pvp. Giving hunters an infinite 50% damage reduc whenever they get in trouble? nahhhh

[@Risenshinenfall]

Would make more sense to have a rune for Mongoose Bite since it rarely sees any use.

[@adamfink8958]

Being able to launch traps in combat would be nice. Camouflage would be amazeballs

[@Arisderp]

Every time someone uses that word, a wow player becomes destined to die a virgin.

[@dylanmelella5663]

I think a great melee rune would be to give hunters traps in combat, lower or get rid of the dead zone for ranged attacks, change auto shot to shoot, and change some ranged abilities to melee abilities similar to how meta rune changes spells to melee abilities. Maybe change each sting into a melee ability instead of a ranged one? Essentially you will be melee but you could weave out of melee to do instant cast ranged attacks. You still have ranged abilities but no more auto shot and can use traps in combat.

[@calledit4428]

Youre so right that TBC hunter was best hunter. Absolutely loved that iteration and the macro melee weaving that started popping off around sunwell was just so fun. I logged into wrath first day, remembered you couldnt melee weave anymore and made a paladin :(

[@thecelticdog6866]

I’ve always said. Lower damage of pets but give more interesting abilities. Give pet the ability to silence for 2 seconds, but by taking the ability it’s overall damage is reduced by 15%. Things like that

[@anthonyzarfati3579]

Been playing melee hunter since day one, have not missed a reset of BFD and just got my epic wep, let’s gooooooo

[@Jeshua_Newborn]

Yo same but no Aku'mai blade yet, and missing boots. Hopefully we get some runes to make mongoosebite and counterattack viable in pve specifically raid setting. Cause right now we may be super bursty and able to get sick 1k crits. I don't think melee is gonna last for very long in this season unless we get combat traps and some melee crit scaling aswell as a change to mongoose and counterattack.

[@anthonyzarfati3579]

@@Jeshua_Newborn I actually didn’t get the xbow, I got the sword it is insane!

[@Jeshua_Newborn]

@@anthonyzarfati3579 That's what I meant , but yea getting that thing would be super sweet. I've never seen it drop yet all my guildies in the several other groups have it. Just the chance of the draw lol.

[@SteeleGames]

Same but I just lost the epic blade to a Warrior, he beat my roll by 2. It feels bad as the raid leader to hand something like that over to a random, lol.

[@anthonyzarfati3579]

@@SteeleGames ouch, yeah that’s rough

[@loganedwards5701]

You're the only non comedy creator I watch videos multiple times with

[@PunkoTheHunter]

Silence shot, damn you got me there ;) If they are able to do a meele/Trap Hunter it would be kinda cool, Like a rune that reduces the Cooldown of Traps when you use Raptorstrike and you are able to use Traps in Combat or something like that :) Nice Video tho, keep it up and thank you!

[@SimonRobeyns]

theres a trap launcher now that u can use in combat, they got it sorted out

[@PunkoTheHunter]

@@SimonRobeyns I like that as well on the first Look. They pushed meele hunter in different ways, and gave the marksman a cool tooltip with traps to play arround. Most importantly there are no New Op runes for BM specc:) kinda hyped for pvp in p2 now 😉

[@The94kristoffer]

Great vid mate!

[@SimonRobeyns]

i didnt even know there was ever a play dead ability, wow Trap Launcher was my most requested rune and I'm surprised they actually put it in already in Phase 2 but they had to do something with traps, as you mentioned, I also barely saw myself using any trap at all except for the frost trap before a fight if I was aware there might be a rogue nearby but other than that traps seemed worthless

[@nikthorsen9421]

Gorilla thunderstomp + KC + beastial Wrath - could we be looking at 1500-2000dmg crits here? Thoughts?

[@pettyrw]

Seeing TSA changed to a % of the hunters' attack power would make them like warlocks offering spell power to a group. I approve allowing it to scale.

[@DominicKennedy-c4g]

I got some ideas for melee hunter runes in phase 2. I'll base my ideas off the assumption that we'll get 3 new rune slots same as in phase 1. Shoulder rune: "Melee Specialization" This rune will change 'Raptor Strike' into an instant ability with a 3 second cooldown and allows the 'Carve' ability to apply the 'Lacerate' debuff. Now when you crit with 'Raptor Strike', if you are using a two-hander it will increase melee damage done by 1% and bleed damage by 3% for 14 seconds, stacking 5 times. If you are dual-wielding it increases attack speed by 6% and bleed damage by 3% for 14 seconds, stacking 5 times. Now when you use 'Carve' it will apply 'Lacerate' to all targets hit, causing 50% weapon damage over 7 seconds and increasing all melee damage done to targets by 3%. Belt rune: "Master Trapper" This rune adds the 'Snake Trap' ability and allow traps to be used in combat by throwing them through the air to the current target, immediately activating on contact. The 'Snake Trap' ability will spawn a variety of snakes to the target that attack and apply a variety of poison debuffs; these snakes scale with hunter's ranged attack power and have reduced AoE damage taken by 90%. Melee crit chance for the hunter is increased on targets affected by the hunter's traps by 10%. Snake Trap has a 30 second cooldown. Frost traps now have a 45 seconds. Traps no longer share cooldowns based on their respective schools of magic. Wrist rune: "Mongoose Fury" When you reach 3 stacks of Flanking Strike with this rune equipped you will gain the Mongoose Fury buff for 21 seconds, allowing Mongoose Bite to be used in combat dealing bleed damage equal to 50% of the hunter's agility and returns 6% base mana. When Mongoose Bite is used on a target affected by Lacerate it adds a stack, dealing up to 250% weapon damage over 7 seconds at 5 stacks. When Mongoose Fury ends, the Flanking Strike buff is consumed.

[@bisalissy3846]

Rebalancing Pets or adding some new special abilities for the garbage pets would be very cool. And I believe something like TBC Kill Command would be nice for BM Hunter, but with GCD. Something to fill the time while you run out from Meleeweaving. Or something really crazy, like adding a proc that for X seconds increases your pet's damage by 400%, but only while you use Eyes of the Beast. Preferably with 2-3 abilities (like from Metamorphosis) to make "Pet fighting" interesting. Something like "Aimed Shot becomes Elemental Strike, dealing Attack Damage in a magic school based on the pet you're using".

[@victorwinqvist4277]

As a mellee hunter I want runes/rune changes: 1. Carve rune: a bit more dmg on it AND "removes the mana cost of wingclip". Would help the mana problems and hopefully make it better than the bm rune! 2. Remove range requirement of serpent sting. 3. The datamined version of raptor strike. 4. In combat traps (no launcher, let me place them were i stand) 5. Increase dmg of mongoose and make it to also proc when the enemy dodges my attacks. This would give me 5 "main" buttons (mongoose, raptor, flanking strike, carve, wingclip as filler) to press and 2 dots where one could be single/aoe. Mellee should be played 2h and not DW! And lonewolf should not be a mellee hunter thing. Haveing a pet as a mellee hunter makes them uniqe in classic!

[@AnotherLazybum]

my retail hunter which i no longer even play retail still has that spectral wolf that is not the spirit beast, i f'ing loved that wolf

[@JCUB72]

As much as I’d love to see traps in combat for all specs, it could be a nice boost for melee hunter specifically if they could use them. I’m one of the few melee hunters out there though, gonna stick by it all phases simply cause it’s a new way to play the class I’ve mained all these years. Great video!

[@Roksu95]

Did this appears to be in NA or EU server?

[@Saywertt]

I just want to have a waaay bigger stable!

[@SimonRobeyns]

true, even 1 more pet would be fine right

[@miftahdimas388]

is it worth for phase 2 my talent change to survival?

[@Skramort]

A rune that i think can be added and can be good to have, is the Black Arrow !

[@zdubzz1280]

Completely agree with the next phase being the best for hunter. Unless they add something huge, the 50 bracket we don’t get any abilities that make a difference. Personally I would love to see something that makes lone wolf usable and move lion off of chest slot.

[@Jeshua_Newborn]

As long as lion doesn't go to gloves or legs then that could be an okay change.

[@quint4298]

What about WoTLK Disengage rune?

[@hennessy4236]

disengage would be sick af

[@kylemaskell722]

I have played melee hunter from the start of sod and it is way more fun then "normal" hunter don't knock it before the try it. And the runes they have shown us already makes them more fun.

[@liongazelle735]

They need to buff up the survival tree. The melee hunter does not really exist at this point as they announced it to be though. What exist now is a bm hunter spec with melee flank weaving. Feels bad IMO

[@liongazelle735]

Make mongoose and that parry thing i. Survival tree proc of something else or more things. Those abilities are practically useless in general and literally useless against casters pvp and in pve against all mobs

[@Jeshua_Newborn]

@@liongazelle735 Mongoose bite and counterattack are already borderline useless being they don't scale with ap or weapon damage. Counterattack has some use ability against rogues and warriors in pvp but that's literally it.

[@liongazelle735]

@@Jeshua_Newborn totally agree. Also the mana consumption of moongoose bite makes me not even use it in my flanking plus raptor macro

[@tokdavid]

I would like to, as you say, more survival and melee to hunter to make it viable. Hell why not make survival a tank like duo tanking with your pet. I mean warlocks get soul link, why not let huntern get something like that

[@DaSmisker]

Great vid!

[@Forty2de]

hunter brotherman, I would welcome the TBC version of KC, but steady shot is where I draw the line. I prefer vanilla over TBC for a reason, and that reason is no steady shot. It turns us into a turret hunter with no movement window and a simpler rotation. It would also kill melee-weaving unless they also removed the deadzone, which they surely won't. No steady shot please, let us keep the aimed shot rotation and our movement windows.

[@pantsempire]

agreed, fuck steady shot

[@dylansilvester2294]

Great video bro 👍

[@SamdeeWG]

They should add a Disengage rune in SoD, make it function like the jump back from the newer versions.

[@matthewdunann]

Love my hunter ! Love your content bro , what server are you playing on btw? I’m on lone wolf PvP US, thanks for all you do.

[@cbreezy2449]

Survival is already my main spec for pvp and always has been, I can’t wait. Survival is just too good but BM is just going to be too insane with the beast within. Only thing I can think of is if beast mastery rune gets nerfed again or just removed completely.

[@guyfawkesday]

Did you ever play Battlefield 1942 back in the mid-2000's? Your voice reminds me of a teammate from that game who went by the handle malakai.

[@Tinman_GG]

I want disengage with the jumpback. And melee hunter needs the harpoon gap closer

[@lukassteitiya9422]

i think to charm rare pets would be cool as a rune it doesn´t change the dmg output but gives u some cool looking pets

[@quenquent95]

I feel like if we get a rune for Trueshot aura, it would be more on the support side like... Well Trueshot aura. Something like Trueshot giving Feral Druid's Aspect of the Pack, or have it affect the whole raid instead of group. Other runes that could be nice would be pet-specific runes, like Wolf's Furious Howl working like its Wrath version.

[@sebastianbergstl4423]

i absolutely dont want more runes to support other classes with- we are already going to be stuck running HotL and TSA. buffing warriors even more just isnt my dream. id rather we got spelldmg aura then, at no cost of an important rune, in the bm tree.

[@pauljordan9007]

wow another great video for hunters

[@JSCimmo]

We do need steady shot. Arcane shot is kinda useless and spending so much mana on bosses doing multishot for a single target feels really bad. I hope they rework the runes no one uses as well.

[@bubsenseijebe2993]

Steady shot is boring. If it’s steady like retail where you can move and cast I may be on board

[@deang8017]

Fuck no we don't

[@JSCimmo]

@@bubsenseijebe2993 oh yea for sure, im on board for steady shot while moving !

[@Rizzy1228]

I really hope they don't add steady shot, I hated basically spamming frostbolt/shadowbolt. I like your idea of instant procs like aimed shot.

[@bubsenseijebe2993]

Masters call could be likely. Disengage, would be cool, but highly unlikely. Disengage would Depend on the direction they are going. Warriors could get leap. Pala steeds, shaman sprint or feral charge etc. But also hope for something new and innovative aswell

[@dtrtf5904]

Yeah I prefer something new for the incoming runes, my alter is holy paladin and I want something new and god for them to heal, we only have only one rune to "heal" and cost a lot of mana.

[@xDoleYT]

Flare to prock trap = YES PLZ! 👀🔥

[@Raegon7]

It would be fun if there was a rune to let survival tank. they can already get almost as if not tankier than rogue tanks without the flat % dmg reduction they got from their rune. It would also probably make melee hunt way more popular than the niche worse dps spec it currently is.

[@Zantsmith]

Play dead was bis. But can we also get bm with 2 pets

[@chocobow5435]

bliz this first phase was like that drunk uncle with a belt beating us to death/ also make traps usable in combat :)

[@Illiadofmalorne]

Definitely keep aware that Blizz did hit rogues ability to swap ghost strike to other runes making it apply a 30 second cooldown to other glove abilities when used. Hunters will probably get the same treatment.

[@marcogoncalves3207]

Kill shot could be fun, adds something different to the rotation.

[@t1m0tee54]

Kill shot would be amazing with fd into rune swaps.

[@lookatdatcontrol9960]

Oh because hunters are not already soloing Rfk and the crocs in stv right?

[@lazarusv3408]

I wonder if aspect of the lions 20% stats with survivals 15% agility + 10% health ( for pvp) would amount to something good since its so much

[@zometthecomet]

😂 that adds up too about 3k hp 😂

[@julesbling1]

Disengage like retail. Jump back, clears snares and gives you a short speed boost. %drool

[@madssiercke4931]

big change i want; make explosive shot scale with barrage

[@Celantus]

For BM they could do a synergy rune or what it would be called, if you get a crit the pet gets a buff of some sort but if the pet crits you get a buff. Could also work if you are getting crit etc. Survival could use some love for melee or they could just make explosive shot, explosive shot again and not this rubbish. More hunter love

[@Highlaw]

Hunter's going to be great... but I'm saying that despite what Blizz did to it (nothing) in phase1. I'm equally worried about P2's rune balance and distribution, both of which are currently perhaps the worse of any class. It's also very sad that Serpents won't be viable in P2 due to their next LB rank being locked to a lv41 mob - with P2's crit% the Cobra Strikes + Sniper Training build could possibly be amazing but not with rank1 LB. I hope that at least Blizz gives us a new cat skin (not unused cat models as you've shown, rather something different like the Wyverns we got). Or better yet; adjust pet abilities, such as giving movement to raptors, fixing Wolf's buff bug, decreasing Gorilla AoE to ~10secs so that we can actually tank or AoE dmg with it in dungeons, etc. Basically opening diversity in pet choice in a non-accidental manner (Scorpids).

[@jnero8141]

I've always loved the idea of melee hunter, just always hated the implementation.

[@hado33_]

your volume is very low compared to other youtubers videos just a heads up

[@christ938]

You were the closest person I’ve seen to mentioning that serpents won’t have access to their next rank of lightning breath at 40.

[@GamingDualities]

Bro why would they add main talent abilities as runes?

[@stianhaugen4016]

He meant runes that changes the main talents.

[@Illiadofmalorne]

I would be interested in melee hunter if flanking strike and carving strike and lone wolf werent extremely poorly designed.

[@felixpyk9900]

Damn. Didn' know Johnny Depp plays hunter. Bless

[@GamingDualities]

Traps being able to used in combat, wyrm sting in combat, shadowmeld in combat pls

[@clark4787]

For what it is worth, I'm a casual dad player and I don't think this phase has been too long. If this is sort of catering to my demographic in a way, it is definitely working.

[@pandasempai6459]

A rune that when Raptor Strike crits you reset your feign death cd.

[@KingKardboard]

20% focus regen too :)

[@싸넬동지-7성담배]

Nice video

[@Adrian890722]

I’d kill for camouflage stealth runeee❤

[@miasmi5992]

im gonna cry so much in pvp against hunters next phase

[@laviddeong4704]

Can you increase your audio i gotta turn you up pretty high to hear you clearly

[@tehcry]

i want tier 5 2nd set bonus - the petheal - as a rune pls....

[@grandecc2567]

traps useable in combat, disengage retweek where hunter can actual do a step back, kill shot, make SPIRIT BOND a rune that gives raid regen!!, same for aura shot talent make these 2 buffs for whole raid not 1 group

[@bigbobfox91]

Trap launcher would be Great ❤

[@ileysmark1987]

I want a rune to change my pet in the out world not only at stable master

[@PootisPenserPow]

You don't need pet FD, you need a Steam Tonk Controller macro

[@mingustheduck]

New white lion?

[@fetoid2]

man, looks like great things for blizz to focus on nerfing for us hunters!

[@bballprostar16]

FIRST! LFG HUNTER CREW!

[@Krelian89]

I think hunters will be in a bad spot in Ph2 if runes sucks, warrios will destroy every hunter with warbringer rune because you wont be able to kite them, however if hunters get a rune for combat traps/serpent sting things will change also blizz needs to change lone wolf and sniper training runes that nobody uses bc they suck hard

[@StocktonSmurf]

The only thing hunters have to complain about it nerfs, imagine that lol

[@tompark8864]

serpent spread feels flawed. multi shot has a 10 second cd, but serpent spread only gives 6 seconds of serpent sting. Meanwhile, without the rune you could have uptime the entire time. Like there's literally no reason I see to use this rune.

[@christopherrector7461]

Way off, they shouldnt change raptor, they should buff mongoose bite. It's a useless ability. They SHOULD and probably will add that ability that shoots the grappling chain and brings you to them. I forget the name but it is similar to charge. And it will be amazing on survival

[@Sharfshot]

i want Barrage rune :D

[@Sultschiem]

Don't you mean: Hunter will be nerfed into the ground in phase 2 because of nonstop whining about the pet again?^^ Cat-Stealh, Dash, AND pet-stun AND bestial wrath? Hunter pets will get nerfed, nerfed and nerfed again because of this. What people dont realise: Cobra Strikes will guarante pet crits. This will cause guaranteed Frenzy. So the moment you crit, you must slam down your bestial wrath and kill command for massive dmg ^^

[@Tinto2]

PLEASE BLIZZARD, STEADY SHOT

[@Ocshredder714]

Feint death drop trap rune. Bet.

[@_Travey]

Think ima dump my hunter, so many other classes seem like they are going to be so much more fun.

[@imunfathomable]

Turn your mic up. I have to do a complete audio balance with everything else to listen to this because your audio is far too low

[@druidinator923]

GL getting invited to Gnomer 10 without TrueshotAura RIP bm

[@montanafreedomhomestead3949]

New abilities not from other expansions

[@theletov]

Rune of Better than Warrior DPS

[@anthonygg3550]

Traps in combat!

[@hotdogboxd]

really want something spelldmg/int focused. think it would be fun to go full arcane hunter

[@nathaneldridge157]

Give us more god damm stable slots

[@lfgubrs]

I don't like that blizzard instead of pushing hunters away from BM they should embrace it and make it still fun and interesting to play instead of just take the easy way out and nerf the shit out of it forcing hunters to look for other alternatives. Pets are what makes hunters special. And for the love of hunter jesus please get rid of this melee weaving bullshit in phase 2. Make a full melee build for hunters legit instead and not this abomination mix of melee and range.

[@erickersten8797]

100% They need to just nerf spell casting pets in PvP and stop with the PVE crap.

[@tompark8864]

I really want survival to get wildfire bomb. I loved that ability when I used to play retail.

[@peter486]

yes they will but they are a broken class, 2 shotting caster. realy great Game design. they hav eno idea what they are doing in SOD.

[@hado33_]

you cant tame old cliff jumper hes 42

[@Zantsmith]

Short of making sod surv a copy of retail surv I'll never touch melee hunter