GNU Talks | Lessons to be learned from SA's 1994 GNU

[@SelfRaisingWheat]

We are very excited about this arrangement. Viva ANC/DA/IFP.

[@nomvuladlamini4618]

I agree what TM says about 'the quality of the maturity' ... it will take extremely mature Parliamentarians and robust engagements. This could shift the debates in Parliament and see it fulfil its mandate in a very responsible way.

[@davidcooper2552]

Totally agree , this will highlight anyone who's doing it for the people or for their own Gain !! Total maturity is needed

[@peterbrigden2124]

@DumaM-ir7rk You cannot believe anything that any of them says, as they are born liars and thieves.😈😈🥱🥱🥱🥱

[@scdbpc965]

I wish Trevor Manual was still in Government. He was the best Finance Minster we ever had.

[@renanirood2756]

Do U knw wat he did with transnet/ spoornet pension fund

[@peterbrigden2124]

He is about the only decent person the Anc has produced? 🥰🥰🥱🥱

[@legolesscheese-wheel69]

he was so desperate to bend over backwards for the IMF at the expense of commitments to the poor and social institutions. the rot started with this man

[@Talulah339]

​@@renanirood2756please enlighten me

[@peterbrigden2124]

@@renanirood2756 Ask his wife?🥱🥱😭😭💯💯💯

[@mariannebarnard7048]

Now we will see who is grown up, wise and have backbone. Who puts the best interest of the country first?

[@franskwala5043]

One of the WMC useful puppets. It’s strange that these type of thugs are walking freely on SA streets. These thugs can’t explain their wealth.

[@Talulah339]

​@@franskwala5043I'm surprised that people are still coining WMC despite the term being invented to cover up State Capture

[@nomalungelongcete5875]

Will we ever see someone who puts the best interests of the poor people? All I see are opportunists

[@AapVanDieKaap]

I agree with you 110%. Ramaphosa, Steenhuizen, Zuma and Malema, they are all just in it for themselves...

[@AapVanDieKaap]

@DumaM-ir7rk Now they collaborate with BEE gov. None of this is secret.

[@lynpetzer2746]

IT IS ABOUT THE PEOPLE...THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN..AMEN AND AMEN.💙🙏💙🙏

[@LGG629]

Amen 🙏🏾

[@southafricangirl1698]

Wow, excellent discussion, thank you Mr Manuel, we need you back in parliament

[@neilmccafferty5886]

Whatever agreement is hammered out by the politicians, it MUST be reduced to writing and published in full. Thereafter there MUST be a referendum where the people have a final say on it.

[@jimmycricket5366]

Move forward with what works. Life is not so simple. More jobs, better jobs, let's go.

[@unismmashinini7213]

Including his wife who manipulate the rand

[@RubaJust]

What will be simpler is for you to move to Europe bhuti

[@jimmycricket5366]

@@RubaJust No, but you are already there, ne?

[@Talulah339]

​@@RubaJustwhy?

[@RubaJust]

@@Talulah339 because Africa is so backwards, no management, incompetent, your insults are endless! So why be here when you have an advanced, civilized Europe? Oh yeah how can I forget, for the resources!

[@sharonffoulkes3410]

The ANC had 30 years to change the unemployment and poverty in this country and instead both worsened. We need change and we need to work together. MK and EFF don't seem to realize that the DA is not an apartheid party. THEY are the apartheid parties.

[@africanqueen1655]

But the DA is an Apartheid party because they are against Progressive Policies to redress Apartheid, right? 🧐

[@CooleyPholobah]

Bull&@# #FocusOnVolleyBall

[@felicitytaylor3764]

Well said they cause division by living in the past instead of moving in with forgiveness and us building as one nation a better South Africa

[@ChristopherDAbreton]

A voice of common sense in a world of chaos!

[@runningman2989]

The communists, tyrants and thieves are crying because of this DA-ANC-IFP coalition 🤣

[@KatherineQuay]

Very true 😅

[@sabanyboy9098]

You sound like one. Cit8zens are cit8zens ma mate

[@vitamingreen4815]

These are the tyrants and communists

[@mristomanyakanyaka1298]

It is really true bcs 60% of ANC was captured by Mafias and they were more than willing to do whatever they can in order to get rid of those who are against their corrupt doings hence, it was not easy for them to accept cleansing or that renewal process of the organization from the NEC members,MPs,cadres down to members to their supporters...

[@aliencyborg1715]

Look thier funders you will see the puppet masters

[@SibongileMapeka]

I also like this arrangement for our country viva DA,ifp, and ANC

[@AapVanDieKaap]

A very, very clever man. I hope to see him back in cabinet.

[@sabanyboy9098]

Trevor Manuel being a boss at Old Mutual after failing to deliver as finance minister speaks volumes.

[@Talulah339]

How did he fail to deliver?

[@nomalungelongcete5875]

​@@Talulah339 Don't you know?

[@Talulah339]

@@nomalungelongcete5875 I wouldn't ask if I knew

[@southafricangirl1698]

No, he did an excellent job, I thought, please enlighten who has been better?

[@nadanieuwoudt1638]

And in the meantime, loadshedding is starting again… How coincidental….

[@Seamonkey292]

While foreign affairs like the Israel and Gaza conflict are important, shouldn't we be focusing on fixing our own country and government instead? Discussing these issues seems to distract from the urgent problems we face at home.

[@hoza1752]

We are in this MESS today because of people like him.

[@ronalddippenaar2381]

Nonsense

[@runningman2989]

Maybe you should go read stats. Under TM as finance minister the SA economy grew more than it ever did in history.

[@itumelengmodutwane4893]

Was the a change in the life of a black child?it's nice speaking from position of privilege

[@brucebaker8844]

No because of people like Zuma

[@itumelengmodutwane4893]

So during Mandela & mbeki s time the was change?me and u are leaving in 2 different south africa.but its not a secret the only thing that is common between us is the springbok wining the world cups(stronger 💪 together right)but what Trevor and them has done to this country,1 day the ppl will rise and the other groups will start to appreciate that alot went wrong

[@phikavuma6595]

The individual, often regarded as a Rothschild affiliate, is now addressing national unity. During his tenure as finance minister, he approved a contentious arms deal yet remarkably avoided any legal repercussions. He also appointed his close associate, Edward Kieswetter, as the Commissioner of SARS, who is arguably compromising the institution's integrity from within. Additionally, his wife's manipulation of the Rand has had lasting detrimental effects on the South African economy, for which she was subsequently rewarded with a position at the reserve bank. Therefore, giving credence to his rhetoric is unproductive. They present themselves as innocent, yet they are the true culprits, their misdeeds shielded by the establishment and a compromised judiciary.

[@serogolemogole2685]

💯

[@ronalddippenaar2381]

Eventually South Africa would have to change it's electoral system to that of a Constituency based one instead of the current Party based one. That'll provide for better competent MP's. And rid the country from the circus we experienced.

[@nicholasmbatha1202]

This is a beginning of the End of the ANC come 2029.

[@kitsoyaonephatudi1274]

Trevor need to organize his books according to size. Should they not be according to genre, he should focus on that too🤣🤣🤣🤣 I totally failed to focus on the interview.

[@geraldrafferty5485]

I AM A SOUTH AFRICAN . I CAN LEARN ABSOLUTELY FROM STUPIDITY .

[@tebogomacala8656]

Our leaders seem to be in dire need of a "What Would Previous Leaders Do?" handbook, complete with illustrations and maybe a few doodles in the margins.🤣

[@brianbayer4868]

Why TF are you giving this man airtime? I'm so happy I don't watch TV or listen to radio anymore

[@StreamCast111]

The IFP and the DA forming a coalition with the ANC just shows who the parties who actually fight for all South Africans are. MK and EFF rejecting the coalitian doesnt stand for South Africa as a whole but instead just for themselves. South Africans before African charity starts at home once South Africans are cared for then we can open arms to the rest of the worldd needing Charity. Foreigners who boost the economy should be the ones welcome not those taking basic employment from South Africans.

[@maryjooste6161]

Both of them must put people first

[@PhillipBarnes-k5w]

Hi Trevor. What happened in the Banking world? Tell us bru??? The private companies .. Surtie? Etc

[@UrsulaHerandien]

Stop going back to1994 it is 2o24 move on go forward fix our country😮

[@Peter-sp4dd]

There's nothing wrong with comparing similar events and trying to identify patterns imo. Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it 🤷‍♂

[@sushelarajkumar367]

Yez if only people can stop that backward thinking 😮😮😮

[@nomalungelongcete5875]

But history is important

[@nomalungelongcete5875]

@DumaM-ir7rk Yhooooo 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

[@debeerpaul]

Haha The master of the sin tax. The best finance minister the world has ever seen.

[@PauloMujuru]

What does the constitution say about a situation like this where election results does not give a majority winnner. Does it now rest on the competing political parties to decide

[@RichardDantu]

You see some of the thieves are gone they are ripe for jail time ⏲️

[@LouisMkhize]

Ramaphosa has done his job by giving power back to DA, that was the plan all along😮

[@unathimichaelmxaku8105]

100%

[@starboy-zg5kn]

Rubbish the DA will improve the economy and put a end to corruption

[@vocal-hm3yo]

First it was going to be a coalition,then it went to GNU, now its coalition again. So what's it going to be? Definitely a difference between GNU and coalition.

[@CBH-l4o]

Another sellout of people and become Old mutual group boss 😂😂

[@ckoriablack]

This is not GNU but coeletion. Without MK and EFF it remain coeletion. It's either they add MK and EFF or remove IFP to qualify as GNU. As it stands it is a coeletion. Another thing to note: ANC failed to with the majority, so they had no choice but to seek for coeletion, so this is not a heroic moment of sharing power!

[@Geezweez788]

Where has this sell out been hiding

[@unathimichaelmxaku8105]

in stellenbosch

[@Geezweez788]

@@unathimichaelmxaku8105 wooo lord. At the Mecca of Afrikaanerdom.

[@nomalungelongcete5875]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@zunabukosi9679]

Now we know this is not GNU...

[@GoFast589]

DA coming to take SA back.mooi man mooi

[@Talulah339]

The DA knows how to govern. 350 000 jobs in the last year alone in the WC

[@aliencyborg1715]

Lets see if they uphold the constitution

[@sihletngcobo]

The Rothchild man. Ci ci co

[@Landless_Native]

This Friday’s parliamentary sitting will sadly produce the shortest serving state president in the history of this country, because, The MK is boycotting the parliamentary swearing in session indefinitely, therefore, parliament will have to be dissolved in a weeks time as it fails to meet the requisite 350 threshold thus forcing a national re-vote - we’re living in interesting times indeed

[@cloudstrife8791]

Only needs a 1/3 anc alone can run it. MK will lose all 58 names and single handedly zumas family and friends kicked out big positions for random MK members.

[@davidcooper2552]

You have your numbers wrong ! You only need 1 3rd of the 400 seats to constitute a new Government !! Less than 150 , So it will happen whether the Mk or Eff like it or Not ! They should put the people of south africa 1st and join or are they only thinking about personal Gain ..

[@emilyjoale6468]

​@@davidcooper2552Eff and mk have no interest of making SA work.

[@diatilenthoba8262]

Even if parliament can be dissolved,SANDF will have to take over gorvement,let's see what Zuma n mk will do....he will go to jail, remember arms deal case is continuing

[@fayecassim1286]

Greetings panel Does the GNu have the Quota system of the Demographic Democratic Representation much appreciated

[@tsekomofokeng182]

ANC is a shame siestog sies

[@PhillipBarnes-k5w]

Speak up ... now is the time! Religioucity... Repent Christian's... you supposed to know. Foolishness with peoples inheritance is cri.inal. ❤

[@anandabaker6556]

Trigger warning .... all people Trevor's Voice .... ptsd

[@PhillipBarnes-k5w]

You have time ... 24hiurs ... change the Captain and the deckhand they fooled all.

[@juniormolefe3046]

Manuel is hallucinating DA wants bad public health😂sovas to sustain private expensive health 😂NHI won't be implemented 😂anc of unpatriotic sell outs

[@margaretlesoleso]

Prophet of doom😢😢

[@dinopadayachee8289]

@juniormolefe programmes like the NHI doesn't work in rich first world countries like USA and the UK so how can it work in SA? 🤷‍♂️ I won't argue that it's great as a policy but it can't even get off the ground without increasing taxes on the already struggling middleclass. The immediate solution is to rather have existing hospitals upgraded and get more doctors serving internships at public hospitals. If tax money for infrastructure was actually being used properly, we wouldn't need the NHI at all. With the NHI we'll have people say that it's great for the poor, but the cost of living will go up and we'll actually have more poor people then, it's always a balancing act

[@margaretlesoleso]

@@dinopadayachee8289 day no more, this is absolutely a wise man thinking👌👌👍👍💪🤸🤸‍♂️🤸‍♀️🤸🤸‍♂️🤸‍♀️

[@OldRhino]

The biggest problem with programmes like the NHS is money. Out of an adult population of 40 million only 8 million pay income tax, and almost half the population receive a government grant of one sort or another. So where will the money to finance a program like that come from, when the current public health system is at breaking point due to lack of funding?

[@dinopadayachee8289]

@@OldRhino I understand your point but the picture is actually worse than that. SA population is 60m people and although we only have 7m registered taxpayers, only 5m South Africans actually pay tax. That's largely the middle class. The interesting thing though would be to see how many of those 5m taxpayers register for the elections, then actually cast a vote. The voting population vs the total population is embarrassing, especially given how the political landscape is shaping up

[@akhonadanielmkosana]

ANC phelile, its done

[@unathimichaelmxaku8105]

sellouts

[@Child7542]

DA will take the country come next election those people are working

[@lynettevanrooyen6878]

WHAT DOES TREVOR MANUEL THINK HE IS? HE MUST VOERTSTEK BACK TO SPAIN 😡

[@farmthreads5679]

ANC thief. Spent a bit of time in jail this guy😢

[@faizeladam1404]

As an opponent of the brutal apartheid regime and not for corruption as you're insinuating.

[@GregoryAdolph-lv6yt]

Mr Sin Tax a hole lot of bull

[@jameskillu9171]

was joining DA the reason so many ANC veterans suffered death, exile, torture, injury, prison, land theft

[@RRabbithole101]

This reporter for SABC is full of crap

[@RRabbithole101]

@DumaM-ir7rk lol it’s a state owned propaganda channel and she is trying to veer off topic and props for Trevor for noticing it and staying on topic

[@Nomngcefe]

Apartheid government brought back by same people who claim they were fighting against 😂😂😂

[@davidcooper2552]

They fought for the Anc and than realized they a bunch of Corrupt thieves who are destroying our Country !! Even Thabo mbeki doesn't know this Anc anymore ...

[@Frank_inSA]

You're living in the past, my friend

[@Nomngcefe]

@@Frank_inSA Nop, ANC bringing the past

[@unathimichaelmxaku8105]

Inkatha old partners of National party DA new National party.We are doomed ondlebe zikhanyilanga baphinda bayasiphatha ubutyebi bethu bemka kwakhona.

[@gairoonishaboolay4331]

Just want to remind you that you have a free South Africa and freedom to vote with the help of the Palestinians and worldwide support

[@jn8922]

Ya and you should remember it's South African blood that freed us. Our people fought here though you seem to give credit to foreign powers. We have a lot to be ashamed off now with the state of our country but we can be proud that we stayed and fought for our own freedom.

[@dailinscullard7731]

irrelevant comment you low iq human