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Dawah Motivation Nadeem Ashraf

Dawah Motivation Nadeem Ashraf

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If you’re someone who has doubts about if a creator exists, listen to a seasoned academic produce intellectual proofs.
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@ahsanloudaf
@ahsanloudaf 6 ай бұрын
My brother... Hamza ❤❤❤❤
@tabarak4343
@tabarak4343 7 ай бұрын
Amazing explanation
@Beingstudent005
@Beingstudent005 4 ай бұрын
Hamzah is the Ist which comes in my Mind when it comes to Atheism the reason why is because He is Alhamdulillah Aquanted with both Quran and Sunnah and Philosophy and modern science
@aenaaye
@aenaaye 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant.
@wwaqashussain
@wwaqashussain 6 ай бұрын
kuch nahi , cute :)
@zverh
@zverh 6 ай бұрын
Rhetoric and sophistry
@kamnafar
@kamnafar 2 ай бұрын
Explain, otherwise you're just making a claim. Is the whole debate around reality sophistry then?
@Rico-Suave_
@Rico-Suave_ 3 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you very much , note to self(nts) watched all in it 9:17
@johngurvan8279
@johngurvan8279 2 ай бұрын
There is NO proof
@Rico-Suave_
@Rico-Suave_ 2 ай бұрын
@@johngurvan8279 I agree all religions are man made
@ajmala7979
@ajmala7979 6 ай бұрын
Why the background sound? Very off putting
@DawahMotivation
@DawahMotivation 6 ай бұрын
It’s not music
@Russ--R
@Russ--R 6 ай бұрын
@@DawahMotivation Whatever it is, it's offputting. Now he's gone all echoey.
@texbeneche
@texbeneche 6 ай бұрын
I disagree
@shittyun1
@shittyun1 4 ай бұрын
Can people stop adding background music and hyms. We listen to these for intellectual value not dramatic affect.
@Syed_Uqba
@Syed_Uqba 5 ай бұрын
The argument from arbitrary limits works both ways ... Why does your god have 2 hands instead of 3/4/5....? Why does he not have a horn or tail instead ? Why can't he lie ? Even if you dont take the description of hands and etc literally this question is still valid... + If you believe god has free will , which means that he could have chosen not to create the world .... then what explains his choice of choosing to create than not to ... Its a Brute fact , it has no explanation ...so theism has no explanatory power over atheism on the contrary theism requires us to have more ontological commitments to the beings like angel / jinns etc ...
@ikhlashasib8256
@ikhlashasib8256 5 ай бұрын
Why does your god have 2 hands instead of 3/4/5....? Who the hell told you God has two hands? tf 🤣🤣
@ikhlashasib8256
@ikhlashasib8256 5 ай бұрын
You atheist get dumber by the day lol
@Syed_Uqba
@Syed_Uqba 5 ай бұрын
@@ikhlashasib8256 prophet Muhammad himself 🙂 It was narrated from 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-'As that: The Prophet [SAW] said: "Those who are just and fair will be with Allah, Most High, on thrones of light, at the right hand of the Most Merciful, those who are just in their rulings and in their dealings with their families and those of whom they are in charge." Muhammad (one of the narrators) said in his Hadith: "And both of His hands are right hands." أَخْبَرَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ، عَنْ عَمْرٍو، ح وَأَنْبَأَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ آدَمَ بْنِ سُلَيْمَانَ، عَنِ ابْنِ الْمُبَارَكِ، عَنْ سُفْيَانَ بْنِ عُيَيْنَةَ، عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ دِينَارٍ، عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ أَوْسٍ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عَمْرِو بْنِ الْعَاصِ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏"‏ إِنَّ الْمُقْسِطِينَ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ تَعَالَى عَلَى مَنَابِرَ مِنْ نُورٍ عَلَى يَمِينِ الرَّحْمَنِ الَّذِينَ يَعْدِلُونَ فِي حُكْمِهِمْ وَأَهْلِيهِمْ وَمَا وَلُوا ‏"‏‏.‏ قَالَ مُحَمَّدٌ فِي حَدِيثِهِ ‏"‏ وَكِلْتَا يَدَيْهِ يَمِينٌ ‏"‏‏.‏ Grade: Sahih (Darussalam) Reference : Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379
@bilalbutt8574
@bilalbutt8574 5 ай бұрын
There is a fundamental flaw in ur argument. God is necessary and all of his attributes including hands etc mentioned in quran and ahadiths are necessary, meaning they are not limited and cannot be any other way. However, anyother thing besides him is contingent. The question "Why cant he lie" is a typical fallacious argument similar to why cant god cease to exist etc. Lets examine this ridiculous question but in sense of contingent beings like us humans. Why do humans lie? We lie either because we are afraid of harmful consequences or we want to achieve/gain some monetary or otherwise that we cant achieve without lying. Now lets apply this to god. Allah is all powerful and self subsisting, treasures of heavens and earth belong to him. So u are essentially asking why a god is not a god at same time i.e. logical contradiction, powerful not afraid of speaking truth yet afraid of consequences at same time. Muslims dont believe in existence of true contradictions. So u are trying to limit an unlimted god. Secondly, in regards to freewill and why did he create, i can simply posit he created the world because he can. Although he mentions in revelation the purpose of creation i.e. to worship him, but even without that we can say just because u dont know the reason behind his decision does not negate ontological existence of his decision and the result i.e. creation of universe. Under theism, an existence of necessary being(wajib al wujood) i.e. God explains existence of set of contingent things(mumkin al wujood) e.g. universe. Positing brut fact is a cheap atheist cop out when they cant explain contingent things which require explanation outside of itself. I am sure you are aware of principle of sufficient reason(PSR). Existence of jinns/ angels can be easily explained by existence of necessary being but under atheism u cant even explain your cognitive faculties,rationality, Consiousness (soft and hard problem of consiousness), cant ground morality, truth etc. Search "Thought adventure Podcast" and "Jake the muslim metaphysician" channels on youtube that engage in philosophical and theological discussions refuting atheism etc. Moreover, read works of classical islamic scholars ibn taymiyyah, ibn al qayyim, and others who engaged and refuted philosophical objections against islam and existence of god more than 1000 years ago.
@Syed_Uqba
@Syed_Uqba 5 ай бұрын
@@bilalbutt8574 You failed to understand my point let's go through your points... The objection was that : just like we can ask that Why doesn't the Christian conception of God contain 4,5,6,...9 identical beings instead of 3 in their case 3 is an arbitrary limit ... As Hamza was asking that material beings / things which have some limits like shape and geometry cannot be the ultimate cause of the universe since the foundation of our reality cannot have arbitrary limits ... If the answer to this is that these limits are necessary therefore they cannot be in any other way This undercuts hamza's objection since if his foundation i.e god can have necessary arbitrary limits then the material first cause too can have factually necessary arbitrary limits ... Answering to Dr Josh Rasmussen who is the original proponent of this argument, prof Felipe Leon in the book 'Is god the best explanation of all things' writes ... "Indeed, the worry above seems to generalize to just about any account of ultimate reality. So, for example, won’t explicability arguments saddle Christian theism with the same concern, viz. why the deep structure of God’s nature should necessitate exactly three persons in the Godhead? In general, won’t explicability arguments equally support a required explanation for why a particular God exists rather than others, or rather than, say, an infinite hierarchy of gods? The heart of the criticism is that it seems any theory must stop somewhere and say that the fundamental character is either brute or necessary, and that if it’s necessary, the explanation of why it’s necessary (despite appearing contingent) is beyond our ability to grasp (pg., 67-68)." If god's attributes are necessary then so can the characteristics of oppy's naturalistic singularity or the factually necessary first cause ... Secondly the question why can't god lie ? Again you seemed to have failed to understand the objection... If god is omnipotent and he can do all logically possible things ... Then this includes the proposition that God can Lie since there is nothing in the proposition itself that makes it contradictory... So now you might want to tweak the definition of omnipotence that "Omnipotence is the ability to do all logically possible things consistent with one's own nature" This seems to work fine since god is the ultimate truth himself therefore he cannot lie since it will violates his own nature.... BUT wait a minute 👀 This definition of omnipotence is tautological and hence each and everything in the universe has the ability to do everything consistent with its own nature... This is not my objection , it's by one of the very renowned Christian philosopher Alvin plantiga... Plantinga described it through a thought experiment : Imagine Mr. McEar: Mr. McEar is a man who has the essential property of only having the power to scratch his ear. He is incapable of doing anything else Mr. McEar does not seem to be omnipotent. But, he WOULD be omnipotent on the above definition. For instance, Mr McEar is incapable of standing up; however, “A being who has the essential property of only scratching his ear doing something besides scratching his ear (standing up in this case)” entails a contradiction. Therefore, it is no detriment to Mr. McEar’s omnipotence that he cannot stand up. In fact, even though Mr McEar cannot do ANYTHING besides scratch his ear, this does not detract from his omnipotence on this definition. Because NONE of those (non-ear- Scratching) actions are compatible with his nature (i.e., essential properties)... + This is not limited to me infact Deobandi Muslims hold this belief that Allah CAN LIE it's just that he won't or he doesn't.... They understand that restricting the possibility of god lying is AN arbitrary limit to god's omnipotence... The reason why other Muslims oppose this idea is that if God can Lie then there's no way to prove that God hasn't lied to the prophet thereby dismantling the foundations of Islamic epistemology.... (1/2)
@Richest_Person_in_the_World
@Richest_Person_in_the_World 4 ай бұрын
Well I agree islam is the best religion, however religions are a bad idea
@DawahMotivation
@DawahMotivation 4 ай бұрын
approach Islamic foundations with logic and common sense.
@uthman2281
@uthman2281 2 ай бұрын
Why?
@matswessling6600
@matswessling6600 2 ай бұрын
@@DawahMotivation "approach Islamic foundations with logic and common sense". Yes, that is is good advice that utterly destroys Islam. Islam is a irrational myth.
@moguehabdifarah1452
@moguehabdifarah1452 2 ай бұрын
Masha allah quran already destroy them in the time of pur prophet
@fasalalbana4913
@fasalalbana4913 2 ай бұрын
The greatest proof of Allah is human consciousness, because the entire universe exists within human consciousness, period. Subhanalah
@matswessling6600
@matswessling6600 2 ай бұрын
"the entire universe exists within human conciousness" No, it doesnt. why would you say that? you are only aware of a tiny tiny tiny little part of the universe: the things near you.
@amuthi1
@amuthi1 5 ай бұрын
Why does Hamza think that the islamic narrative is the only valid way? It's just what he arbitrarily prefers.
@hasheemadamson4117
@hasheemadamson4117 5 ай бұрын
@amuthi1 : If you have or know of another system better than Islam please bring it forward and tell us about it. But if you don't and you can't present anything please shut up and be humble. After that please go and pick up a Qur'an and read it. May Allah increase us all in knowledge and understanding. Salaam Aleikum. Free Free Palestine 🇰🇼
@amuthi1
@amuthi1 5 ай бұрын
@@hasheemadamson4117 Of course there are systems better or at least partially better than Islam. I.e. the concept of Brahman as the necessary existence is able of trancendence but also immanence. Therefore it is less restricted than the concept of Allah in islamic theology. You find much more spohisticated elaborations of the jinn world in nordic mythology than in islam. The socio-political dimension of islam is massively outdated. Quite an amount of the quran is just copy-paste (sometimes done wrongly) of other religious traditions.
@DawahMotivation
@DawahMotivation 5 ай бұрын
@@amuthi1 How is the concept of Brahman as the necessary existence
@amuthi1
@amuthi1 5 ай бұрын
@@DawahMotivation Bear in mind that Brahman (ultimate principle = necessary excistence) is easily confused with Brahma (one god of the trimurti Brahma-Vishnu-Krishna). So the question to the muslims: If Allah creates via his will and his power out of what does he create? How does the will and the power of Allah transfer into the "stuff/substance/components" humans are made of? The nature of Brahman is satya („truth“), jnana („knowledge/experience“), ananta („infinity“).
@bilalbutt8574
@bilalbutt8574 5 ай бұрын
@@amuthi1 Learn about islamic metaphysics and dont view things by projecting your paradigm and metaphysics.We believe Allah is distinct from his creation. He created man from clay by his own hands(an attribute of god unlike any ontological similarity with creation). See concept of analogical predication for understanding attributes in terms of creator and creation. Moreover, Allah created souls of each human beings. Allah creates out of his creative command. Humans or any other creation do not share in with essence of god.
@adanxxxxz-dg8nc
@adanxxxxz-dg8nc 6 ай бұрын
Just waste the time
@istriver.
@istriver. 4 ай бұрын
Waste of time for those that don't have an adequate level of understanding of the English language
@reallifehack4790
@reallifehack4790 2 ай бұрын
​@@istriver.Now tell us a single proof he gave for the existence of God and what evidence based modality we'll use to verify his existence?
@MF12123
@MF12123 4 ай бұрын
Sorry, I respect religious people but this explanation is absurd. You’re telling me that because I can’t tell you how things came to be it proves the existence of god invented in the dark ages and the truth of one of many holy books held as the one truth around the world? Give me a break. People are so attached to their cultures that they’re willing to believe in fairytales. I say this as an ex-believer myself.
@ZM-et7zt
@ZM-et7zt 4 ай бұрын
How do you explain morality or consciousness? Or the fact that we need to practise gratitude to be happy. Who are we being grateful to?
@ShayanKhan-zd3gw
@ShayanKhan-zd3gw 4 ай бұрын
Atheism is also a far worst belief by itself because you cannot disprove the existence of God by any scientific or reasonable argument. And how will you define rationally the good and evil without divine standard and your conciousness?
@MF12123
@MF12123 4 ай бұрын
@@ZM-et7zt Um, morality is how humans have survived with each other for our entire existence. It doesn’t take belief in a god to tell me hurting my neighbor would make them feel pain and create conflict in my community. Consciousness might very well not be unique to humans and regardless, why would I jump to the conclusion that it was handed to us by the supernatural? Gratitude helps us take stock of the good things we have in life. I’m grateful to have been exposed to multiple ways of belief and the freedom to form my own opinions and ultimately non-belief. No god required!
@MF12123
@MF12123 4 ай бұрын
@@ShayanKhan-zd3gw …Atheism is not a belief system, it’s the absence of one. And the burden of proof is on the religious: extraordinary claims deserve extraordinary evidence. I’ve never seen any proof that god or unicorns exist so I don’t need to go out of my way to proof they don’t. And why would I need god to tell me what’s good and evil? I have common sense and compassion.
@semasky4324
@semasky4324 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@MF12123evil and good is changing depending on the society and the time. How can a morality based on community rules be sustained if it is changing it tules every 10-20 years?
@asadbukhari8282
@asadbukhari8282 3 ай бұрын
Trying to figure out what’s more annoying? His accent or his illogical arguments that make no sense at all.
@roneddy
@roneddy 3 ай бұрын
Your comment
@uthman2281
@uthman2281 2 ай бұрын
according to you
@SamadShah-tm9sy
@SamadShah-tm9sy 2 ай бұрын
you
@ansarullah1
@ansarullah1 3 ай бұрын
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