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[@SirCat-pn1xy]

baldur : strangles his mother but let go at the last moment.. kratos : proceeds to make a punching bag out of his father.

[@motharchenemy8549]

To be fair though freya is just an overprotective mother who just wants to protect her son at all costs while zeus is a jerk that denied him of the ignorance of kratos killing his own family, despite serving him for 10 whole fucking years, and then fear engulfs him which makes him KILL kratos.

[@Gab98Spyro]

That difference is the whole point of the story.

[@Brainwave101]

Tim Vano But the reason all that happened was because Kratos was a blind idiot and opened pandora's box corrupting all of Olympus' gods.

[@motharchenemy8549]

Tru but you'd think the gods would catch onto the cycle of sons defeating fathers because the father was an asshole, Kratos learned that and taught it to his son and encourages him to be better

[@chaosshadic40]

Brainstorm 101 But the gods told him to open Pandora’s box in order to kill Ares.

[@chrisschoenthaler5184]

“Your father was Zeus? Well, that explains a lot.” Mimir knows how Greek mythology goes.

[@PeterJamesVillegas]

Well, that explains his knowledge to all the realms, wars waged, and deals struck.

[@thegamerzoildv2183]

@@PeterJamesVillegas this may sound retarded for me saying this but dose that means he knows about kratos and eres sorry if I miss spelled that

[@daniel-ov1vo]

Thegamerzoild V2 prior to meeting kratos and being tied to his hip, he only knew of kratos through rumors of being “the ghost of Sparta”

[@Iploac]

Well he is the smartest man in the world and I don't think that word 'world' only states with Midgard but also different worlds like sparta and so on

[@arnie7779]

He is the head of wisdom after all

[@bestintheworld568]

Atreus “I have a plan!” *Grows moustache* “TaHiTi”

[@natsuki4435]

*MUNEH!!!*

[@vizunalvarez883]

*GAAAAAAAAAVIIIIIIIIIN!!!!!*

[@riccieri7990]

*Easy boah*

[@riccieri7990]

*i am sick sister*

[@patback5760]

HAVE SOME GOD DAMN FAITH

[@alexanderdemoniac8107]

"Your father was zeus!?!? Well that explains a lot" This game is gold

[@megapulsar9244]

чukíσ hírσѕhí 욭ᄎᄂᆴ TM that's the line I didn't quite understand yet. What exactly does it explain to Mimir that Zeus is Kratos' father?

[@UnfamiliarIntimacy]

Mega Pulsar Despite what God of War portrayed Zeus to be in 2 and 3, I'm gonna guess before Kratos opened Pandora's box of evils that Zeus wasn't as bad as he was then. In original Greek Mythology, Zeus was only a prick for his pride and him having bastard children by cheating. But when it came to his kids, he was actually very caring, besides to Hephaestus, depending on what you read. For example, Zeus had granted Artemis affiliation to things she didn't previously have, and he respected her choice to never marry. Zeus also split the elements of the universe among his brothers, powers that he could've took for himself, being the strongest, despite the youngest. So I think Mimir was talking about Zeus' selflessness in regards to his family.

[@one-wingedangel5107]

Mega Pulsar Mimir seems to know something about Kratos even before he met him and Atreus. That Kratos has a secret, likely a dark past and hence why he washed up in Midgard which he was right. Then Kratos murmured Athena's name on the boat ride, the blades he retrieved were not from the nine worlds, his strength, endurance and intelligence that seems impossible for a mortal. So far Mimir could have deduced that Kratos is Greek, has met the goddess Athena, and served the Gods. The final puzzle piece was Kratos mentioning Zeus as his father. Mimir said it best when he finally put the pieces together. "I got it now! I'm dangling from the bloody hip of the Ghost Of Sparta!"

[@Majid216]

Mega Pulsar he’s the smartest man alive and he got the answer to your every questions.

[@TheSaxAppeal]

@@UnfamiliarIntimacy well, it was actually Hera who threw Hephaestus off of Olympus and not Zeus. Hera just blamed him for it because she's the goddess of family. She's only keen on one type of family though - a "perfect" family

[@TheKentanthony]

I feel bad for baldur.. he's supposed to be the god of light and joy..

[@hovsepkarapetyan410]

Shard 486 son, not brother

[@theknottygamerguy1466]

I like this games little twist on mythology it is amazing

[@TheKentanthony]

I finished it 2 and a half days after release. No worries about the spoilers.

[@ryancarson6962]

What Ever Actually no Loki in Norse Mythology was Odin’s blood brother not his son. Adoptive brother is the correct term when discussing Loki. The only time where Loki was Odin’s son was Marvel Comics.

[@ryancarson6962]

Shard 486 Actually you were correct. Loki was Odin’s adoptive brother. Loki being Odin’s son was a thing created by Marvel Comics, not what actually happened in Norse Mythology.

[@222avi]

Many of us are overlooking Baldur's visions. He choked Freya yet struggled and let her live. In the final fight with Baldur, the reason Kratos let's him choke her as long as he did was to see if he would do the same thing again.. but he didn't. So he killed him so Atreus wouldn't witness a child killing his mother

[@glasszeraki9195]

There's always that "What if" question though. What if Baldur didn't go through with it, like in his visions? In that case, Kratos might have killed him for nothing.

[@bonecoldplays8518]

And yknow , to stop the cycle of vengeance...?

[@onepieceking1770]

@@bonecoldplays8518 exactly cus in this case baldur wouldve became like the new kratos in his realm of asgard killing all his family and anyone who stands in his way

[@michaelzhang9806]

Baldur would’ve killed Freya, gone mad from the grief and tried to kill Kratos and Atreus. He literally says in the fight that he would deal with Freya first but Kratos stops him, so either way would end with Baldur dead by Kratos’s hand with the only difference being whether Freya lived or not.

[@kainepeterson6638]

That’s why I don’t believe when he says “we must be better” he’s talking to Baldur. He’s talking to Atreus.

[@terraincognita9614]

God I actually almost feel bad for Baldur after that whole scene...Freya didn't put the spell on him for his own good, she did it just so she could sleep at night. She inadvertently drove her son mad...

[@aviniciussouza100]

Can you blame her? There was a prophercy that Baldur would have a needless death.

[@warmpond]

The death of baldur is the first stage of ragnarok. She was trying to prevent the end days of the Gods. But she also really loved her son too

[@blandtastes2409]

Taking away something of value from your loved one because of your own selfish reasons is a form of abuse too like taking away child's freedom cuz he or she might get hurt. In this case she is literally a abuser, That is basically Freya

[@notabot5062]

@@aviniciussouza100 yes, yes you can and you should blame her. She basically made her son a living dead that can never die.

[@infamousgames7621]

Allan Vdsouza “One often meets their destiny on their path to avoid it” a wise turtle once told me that

[@Kncperseus]

Suddenly feel so bad for Baldur. Not just his inability to feel, but Vikings gave respect to warriors who would court death of battlefield. Baldur never came a mile near death, hence evidently wasn't given the same respect as his brothers

[@CreativeUsernameEh]

Exactly. Norse mythology is really big on being independant, and not relying on others. It's why Atreus gets so incensed when Modi mocks him saying his dad does all the work. So, to be constantly coddled by your mother and there's nothing you can do about it... It's a universal theme, the overprotective mother and they portrayed it so well.

[@victorgz2907]

Wow, I never considered the huge stigma of being unable to die honourably in battle there'd be in a norse god

[@snowleopard9907]

Kncperseus then what Greeks or Spartans all about??

[@ImperativeGames]

Yeah, they obviously thought that dying is fun. Look at Baldur at the end

[@rajamohdafiq480]

It not just dying but he cannot feel anything, no taste a food. Cannot have sex. What life is that?

[@pyrs201]

Baldur's cry makes me feel really bad for him

[@TheCorrodedMan]

Apex Hunter he’s a nutty son of a bitch but he’s pitiful I’ll give him that

[@ReBotChannel]

good voice acting

[@pyrs201]

*indeed*

[@grimdeath159]

Same. Hated him before this. Now i feel bad for him as well

[@Neo2266.]

Apex Hunter Please tell me that was a reference :D

[@tylerwells841]

I love how Atreus takes charge when Kratos has his vision and how he handles Kratos emotions immediately after. Little touches like that are why this game is so great.

[@sladtatas3298]

yeah ,after that when cratos wants to say something atreus lies and tells his farther that he saw nothing, finally understanding that telling truth is not that simple.

[@tylerwells841]

slad tatas very good point

[@regeleleu8814]

"Come on old man we gotta go! Quit your daydreaming"

[@lucacervenka]

Did you mean _Helucination_ ?

[@reapingbeast6433]

Puntastic

[@johnsullivan9064]

Your puns are bad and you should feel bad! For real though, we’ll done.

[@michaelj.caboose4650]

Haha very punny....

[@motharchenemy8549]

Oh go to fucking Hel. *Oh wait.*

[@B-rex395]

666, the pun of the beast

[@yesman121]

I understand why Baldur wanted to kill Freya now...

[@pratikgrg3331]

Yes Man Can you explain to me pls?

[@Bnavy207]

P Gaming because he didn't want be immortal

[@yesman121]

She took away his ability to feel and taste anything without his permission.

[@kaikart123]

Golden Challenger Freya is just a modern soccer mom

[@zeppelinled3967]

yea before i saw this i felt like baldur was an arse.. after i saw this i just pity him, if i was in his place i would have become much much much worse...

[@sapanpatel3951]

That was your plan! You're both cracked!! Lmfao Mimir is the best comic charcater of GOW series

[@justsomeguy6336]

Sapan Patel He's pretty much the ONLY comic relief character in all of God of War.

[@MugdhaMahdiShams]

@@justsomeguy6336 Brok and Sindri?

[@csab8642]

@@MugdhaMahdiShams true.

[@csab8642]

And he's so likeable that even Kratos likes him.

[@JessicaGarcia-xf9wr]

Sapan Patel nah Helios was funnier than mimir!

[@FortuneDrake]

Why no illusion about Kratos's first wife and Calliope?

[@leroys96cs28]

FortuneDrake he moved on

[@iskoconquers]

Leroys96 CS But with the other Greek Gods he killed..it haunts him..especially Athena

[@RabidXCpanda]

moved on and.....its kinda played out

[@gabrielorville821]

Persephone offered him to life in the Greek version of heaven with his family but given that she stole his power to take over olympus along with morpheus and atlas - he had to give his family up, accept they were gone but you know it was just his family the reason behind his revenge to the pantheon, it was being played with, used, lied, stolen from.

[@MrTHEMONEEMAKER]

@@gabrielorville821 That's not what happened she tricked him into relinquishing his power so he could be with his daughter but she intended to destroy the entire world including the greek heaven where his daughter was and with kratos out of the way no one could stop her. He had to leave his daughter to be able to save her

[@christianballaret5364]

Not able to feel anything is a fate worse than death, you're like a machine or even worse than that.

[@dustinjones7458]

He also can't die at all, which is worse than you'd think. Ironic, but from a Norse perspective-where even the Gods themselves are prophesied to die in battle-that judges one on how they face inevitable death, he is allowed no true release. Victories ultimately become hollow if there's not a chance you'll actually lose.

[@agravain9006]

Emiya Kiritsugu in a nutshell

[@iraqoid]

Emiya Shirou who?

[@Yonyon2002]

@@iraqoid Main Character on Fate Zero

[@j.krollin1307]

Its actually a real disorder/disease not feel anything... and normally leads to a early death

[@js-xl8et]

Wish they would've used the original Kratos voice when he says "face me father"

[@alexanderr.c.6598]

Jesse Short completelly agreed, when you are such a fan of GOW, you cant get the original voice out of your head screaming "I will have my revenge!" Or stuff like that.

[@tennoshenaniganizer9234]

Jesse Short I'm glad they didn't, the old voice actor was so fucking cringe worthy

[@CrystallizedBlackSkull]

Shenaniganizer *_Bitch what_*

[@alexanderr.c.6598]

Shenaniganizer GTFO dude, seriously...

[@ninjaqwest2733]

Ever since I've been looking at the comment section on YT. I think this is the era where the word "cringe" no longer holds its original meaning.

[@rykercameron3510]

He needs a hug and he wanted to taste food and feel the cold and warm weather

[@aviniciussouza100]

He would not even feel you touching him.

[@rykercameron3510]

Your right

[@ChenSaboriNyan]

use mistletoe gloves for the hug

[@noahwaring6548]

And some warm vagina...

[@juanjoseaguilar3668]

And bitches

[@bushidotestu1997]

god no wonder balder became sucha psycho

[@DonovanPotatoBowl]

Edcel Jann M Corre Freya was not a smart goddess, wasn't she?

[@aviniciussouza100]

Like you could be any better.

[@overlordextremegameexor]

Tetsu Hatano Agree with you. Unable to feel the wind in your face, smell a flower, taste a meal, drink water from the river and unable to feel the touch of a love one. Anyone will go psychotic that they can’t feel, touch, smell, taste and force to only watch everything. That is a personal hell that never be compare to a mother’s love.

[@Hsaelt]

Bullshit. He was still able to feel emotions. There are people with sensory deprivation and yet they do not murder their parents. And this dude is a God.

[@alexanderweihmayerhamel4045]

He was a god who had ages to enjoy all pleasures you could ever imagine. Not only did he lose that ability which defined his entire purpose, it was his own mother who made it happen

[@its_Criminal1]

"This path you walk. vengeance. You will find no peace. I know." Best quote in the entire series in my opinion. 8:15 Mimir is the best character in gaming. Not even a question

[@markm7929]

I wish some hallucinations alluded to Kratos' first family. Atreus seeing the visions of his first wife and daughter would've been interesting. Unless they are throwing that aspect of his past away?

[@introboiz1073]

Well i think Kratos already moved on....or his vengence was a bigger regret

[@Priceluked]

Mark M Kratos moved past those regrets in GOW 3.

[@markm7929]

I guess killing his father was the freshest regret he had right out of the gate. Everything else before that seems he moved past from.

[@darksign1840]

Mark M helheim is notorious for illusions of the greatest mistakes you have done. Kratos forgave himself for killing himself and he moved on.

[@sleepingmaniac4863]

@@markm7929 I think it was more of the fight that haunts him and how he used to be that haunts him rather than his father. He most likely still dislikes Zeus , but hated how things had ended. Especially with how Hope sacraficed herself.

[@WizelBalan]

People need to remember Freya's side of the story. She married Odin against the wishes of her people and was basically hated by them for it. Her and Odin's love was real at first, she had Balder, was the leader of the Valkyrie and was respected as a wise queen and fierce warrior. Eventually Odin's love faded due to his obsession with Ragnarok and he began to treat Freya horribly. Freya kept with it for the peace between the two realms but eventually Odin pushed to far and Freya left him. Enraged Odin cursed Freya so that she could never leave Midgard and return home. Odin also cursed her so that she could never harm any living being with either weapons or magic and also stole her Valkyrie wings and hid them which completely stripped her of her warrior status and spirit. Broken, the only thing Freya had left was the love for her son Balder. She learned of his fate of dying a pointless death and not wanting to lose the only good thing left in her life she put the curse on him without permission to save herself further torment despite the pain it caused him.

[@WizelBalan]

While this does not absolve her of her sins against Balder, I can sympathise with her decision no matter how misguided it may have been. All of Freya's losses in her life because of Odin probably caused her to go insane when it came to Balder.

[@gtoyadhatagyab8013]

I know, but that does not justify her action towards Baldur. Her love for her son clouded her judgement, so instead of giving her son happiness, she tortures him. Of course it all started from Odin, or..... Perhaps Mimir, since he's the advisor at that time, so both Freya and Baldur are the victim of Odin.

[@megapulsar9244]

Wizel Balan That's true, but you also gotta know how to 'keep your torments to yourself' and not pass them upon those who have nothing to do with them, without any of their consent, and no matter how you love them or not. (Motherly) Love can be a double-edged feeling.

[@KnightofDark00180]

That isn't justifiable in the fucking slightest. She chose to "spare" him, by making him feel NOTHING, unable to feel warmth, cold, and apparently not even able to DRINK and enjoy it. She chose to be selfish, ruin his life, then justify it under the guise of "I'M YOUR MOTHER I KNOW WHAT'S BEST"

[@darkemperortheobscureone694]

Damn it makes me want to give Odin the same treatment that we gave to Zeus back in GoW 3 even more. But it'll be interesting if they let him set a plan to try to conquer other Pantheons since he's an insane megalomaniac bastard in the first place.

[@frostyguy1989]

Baldrs story is just tragic. The illusion hints that he wasn't always a total prick, and that his hesitance to kill Freya shows he still had a moral compass in the past. But Freya's zealous overprotectiveness ended up driving him mad from sensory deprivation.

[@alphaomega1995]

When god of war 3 players see 7:05 to 7:35 scene they will remember what they did to Zeus and said Players:oh I remember this I punched Zeus to death

[@Grand_Kekthew_]

Their one and only punching bag

[@nexusz4659]

@@Grand_Kekthew_ damn sir. I mean, us fandom aren't that much of lazy couch potatoes😂😂

[@marshdexz8239]

i pushed circle the whole scene

[@TheNewGuard]

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[@gfrzcr9982]

Mimir is the one whos taking more damage after being squashed when kratos falls

[@abavaxi2688]

he's kinda dead tho

[@bananaboi4108]

@@abavaxi2688 but he can still feel pain I think New edit: I was wrong anyone wanting have talk with me 👉🚪

[@winterlstorm4794]

I just realized Kratos asked the greek gods to take away his nightmares, but they refused. Baldur asked his mother to take away his immortality that his mother gave him, but she refused.

[@RandomInformativeShorts]

Baldur would've become the norse god of war then

[@MajinMuu]

ehhh refuse no couldn't atm probably

[@petrusion2827]

@@MajinMuu She could, she was lying. She kept the immortality's weakness a secret

[@chaneladriana6829]

She knew mistletoe was his weakness but didn’t tell him

[@imslowerthanlight.1739]

@@RandomInformativeShorts not strong enough. Thor would’ve devoured him

[@rondorthecruel124]

I think the time Baldur spent in Hel and the mental torment he endured there has a great impact on him the next time we see him. You could argue that he would have done the same things regardless, but I really think it does impact the decisions he ends up making later on. It’s very understated but if you watch those cutscenes while keeping in mind the last time we saw him was in Hel, you can see that his demeanor is shaken.

[@hotlinechernobyl5157]

When Baldur comes back during Ragnarok (which is what he did in mythology, dragged himself out of Hel in a way that would make kratos blush) I want him to be the one to kill freya, or, finally forgive her now that he can feel. I'm fine either way

[@Ragingknight12]

Unless they aren't following the real myth 100%

[@Apollo5752353]

@@Ragingknight12 God of War games don’t follow the Myth 100% of the way, plus Mimir said himself that Kratos changed the fate in game, because Kratos is an outlier. He’s a spartan that became a god, got rid of fate and is the walking embodiment of “I don’t give a damn, my fate is my own” so, I don’t think God of War will go 100% on the Mythology

[@greenpenguin0763]

Imagine Baldur coming back and saying, I'm kinda glad now you did that for me mom, dying is terrible and painful

[@DavidM-jk1tz]

I FEEL bad for Baldur

[@megapulsar9244]

Mimi_Memz really bro? You gonna make him more butthurt than he already isn

[@peer2943]

_press F to pay respects_

[@Fukei_Mono]

Not cool, dude. Not cool.

[@andybarclay5764]

Mimi_Memz *sees baldur cry even more* You son a bitch what have you done? Look at him now!

[@ahmedagustian1226]

U

[@Xecnalxes]

Kratos: “Would you like to meet your step mother and sister?” Atreus: “Of course!” Kratos: “Come. Give me a hug, Boy.”

[@RISTCEMIBOMKPERTIN]

Ha.

[@EagleEye-rw5pn]

Me:i don't get it *a few moment later* Me:oh...

[@zombies5100]

what?

[@zombies5100]

@Sir Soy Gato the Second ohh......

[@jiann__.]

deep

[@IM3RKZZZ]

at 7:25 Atrus realized he does not want to disobey kratos anymore lol

[@takatathien]

I like the subtle ways Kratos moves his fingers around when holding Mimir's head. It shows great attention to details from the developers.

[@NICKatronMC]

Even in death Zeus’ presence is bone chilling

[@krisskrosssss]

That hallucination reminded me that Kratos had the golden fleece. You know? The ultimate shield that could even block attacks from the Blade of Olympus. I wonder if he has it hid under their house. Giving Atreus the Bow of Apollo would be nice too.

[@Ragingknight12]

Except half that stuff was destroyed in god of war 3 in the fight with Zues.

[@wataterp7341]

@@Ragingknight12 The Blade of Olympus is still intact. It would be cool for it to have a comeback in GOW: Ragnarok.

[@dirtydan4519]

@@wataterp7341 he would whip almost whole asgard with one swing

[@MichaelTheRead]

4:55 That moment when you feel genuine sympathy for the _bad guy..._ That is some incredible voice acting.

[@bingusbongus9807]

hes not the bad guy, he did bad things but it was 100 percent freyas fault, she tortured her son without question, kratos shouldve let baulder kill her, baldurs hatred is deserving

[@bettya.k.abetty8259]

You have to admit this game did an amazing job at telling its story

[@Simon-lq5uk]

The way kratos says "Zeus?" and "My father..." is really unsettling.

[@LightningPEye]

I dont like how they didnt even use TC Carson's voice for flashbacks.

[@peer2943]

they haven't use the real animations either. if you compare the "helucination" (tudum tsss) and the real god of war 3 end, you will see some differences.

[@starry402]

Bob The scientist yea like kratos didn’t have the fleece on and TC wasn’t in it

[@meh431]

@@starry402 he lost all of that in greece actually look in the original ending

[@starry402]

tristan mains I mean he could of brought the weapons to Norse it was still there at Greece on mt. Olympus he didn’t bring it

[@meh431]

@@starry402 yeah they could have been useful

[@Defa_Noob]

Wow didn't know Baldur cried afterwards, I didn't stick around that part too long after he called his illusion a coward, kinda makes me wish I had waited to see the whole thing play out

[@Gabronthe]

7:15 there's a cut voice line where Zeus reveals he's sorry and that he begs Kratos to kill him and fear him from his fear and I sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wish we heard that in this flashback. it would make the pain 100X more.

[@nemowhitefish0344]

I would imagine atreus reaction.

[@deadend1137]

Orb

[@MrDibara]

I still say it, they should've brought back the old Voice Actor just for this moment alone. The contrast between Past Kratos and Present Kratos would've been emphasized more, I think.

[@sudowoodo9579]

MrDibara that or just confuse the hell out of new players and then more stupid theories about why Kratos had a voice change. I still can’t believe that’s a thing.

[@MrDibara]

@@sudowoodo9579 *EH?* : ) Would that really be a thing?

[@sudowoodo9579]

MrDibara as someone who was confused about a lot of things because I never played a gow game before this. Yes I would have been confused as to why we were watching two shadows whom I’d never seen before. Since Kratos didn’t have his tattoos in the hel mist version hearing someone else’s voice would have taken me out of it only for the ending to make me realize that it was someone else. So yes.

[@MrDibara]

@@sudowoodo9579 Umm... okay? ^_^'

[@TheHoon57]

I can understand wanting to protect her son, but Baldur's curse is a perfect example that there are worse things than death.

[@danielvictor3262]

I think the greatest lesson this game has is about having complete trust to your children to make their own choices. They might do worse, or better, but everything they do builds their character and with proper guidance it could always be a lesson.

[@LaloKURD]

imagine kratos interacted with baldur durning his crying He could’ve said something to help him and imagine they teamed up to kill odin

[@Adam-wy7mj]

Unlikely baulder is on the same.path as kratos reason does not.exist.only.vengance then regrets

[@gamingawesomeness222]

Adam what happens if you’re discovered by baldur in this segment?

[@sh_2426]

gamingawesomeness222 you can’t be discovered in this segment

[@oblivion85]

Freya took away baldur from feeling physical pain, but in return left him with a life time of emotional pain.

[@jacobsnodgrass1888]

I guess what scares me is is that Hel does this to anyone, regardless of who they are, and it's the dimension itself that does this.

[@ufukkelesoglu3639]

Baldur to Kratos: ...but you're hiding out here in trees, like coward. Baldur (İn Hel): I'm a coward, a coward. A worthless coward.

[@Mapple-ub1dt]

6:09 The way Kratos says "Face me father" The voice sounded exactly like voice actor Thor.

[@antikoerper256]

3:40 JUST DO IT

[@matthewshiba3997]

Atreus Hallucinations was a scene where his mind and eye has been blind by the Pride of The God and become more selfish and show cold intentions toward his enemy. That is why, we were shown the part where he kills Modi. Baldur hallucinations was his own past. The time when Freya Bewitched and Enchanted him, until he was completely invulberable, immortal, and end up by the suffer for being someone who couldn't feel anything that make him angry and full of agony toward Freya. Kratos Hallucinations was a part when he rebelled and fight his own Father Zeus, for betrayed him. He show Zeus and the other Olympians a consequences for betrayed him, by showing his fellow Greek Gods No Mercy.

[@robertlawson2660]

Man watching that seen with Fraye and Buldor (Hope I spelled those names right) I’m really liking Buldor more than his mother, I mean having Ur ability to feel anything taken away from you, the ability to eat, fell wind on your face, feel the love of someone who loves you all gone and then find out there’s no way to change it, hatred isn’t the even the word for how Buldor should feel about her.

[@wadeyoung4271]

I feel like a douche when doing this but it's Freya and Baldur.

[@robertlawson2660]

No I get it like I said I hope I had gotten those names right correcting me I appreciate it

[@Oliver-fv5un]

He can’t even react to da memes and laugh

[@Oliver-fv5un]

Wait if he got stabbed by missletoe he could feel things

[@robertlawson2660]

Nigerian Prince Yeah it was said in Norse legend that when his mother made him unable to feel the way she did it was making all things in the realms swear not to kill or harm him, but she thought the mistletoe were too small to cause a threat so she didn’t ask them so mistletoes have the affect in game to hurt him but in Norse legend it killed him

[@nateborie6329]

Imagine spending your life trying to accept what you've done in the past and move on, to have it be shoved back in your face with illusions of your worst actions in perfect HD fashion for everyone to see and hear. That is what I call torture. And for someone like Kratos, who has spent years trying to move on from the mistakes of his pasts and the tragedies and horrors he unleashed on humanity with his vengeance, watching a reenactment of him slaughtering Zeus had to be the most terrifying thing to happen to him since almost losing Atreus. Also, as someone who's never played the original God of War games, and I only know what Kratos sounded like in GOW3 because I watched the remastered version on KZbin, this version of Kratos is the only one I know of and can really identify with, and therefore, if I heard the older version of Kratos speaking and it was a different voice speaking, I would be confused as fuck as to what was happening. But hearing the newer version of Kratos playing as his younger self saying "Face me, father! It is time!" lets just say there are few games that can give me that level of goosebumps, but God of War has done the almost impossible. Also, I'm glad Atreus saw what he did to Modi, because it made him realize he was becoming a different person after learning he is a God. He was becoming selfish, arrogant, and immature, in other words, he was becoming just like Modi. And for Kratos, who has wanted to do one thing, help Atreus learn humility, self control, and respect, seeing him become just like the Gods he spent years resenting and hating, that was as close to a nightmare as you could possibly get for him. It was good for Atreus to see what his actions wrought upon both him, Modi, and his father, because his actions did indeed have consequences.

[@vanndymaywho1910]

I loved how they reused Zeus’s lines from God of War 3, they are literally the same but given new meaning in the scenario GoW4 setup. It turned our moment of triumph into the one we never wanted to see, let alone to our son.

[@czahnnunh2263]

No zeuses actor came back and redid them for this scene with kratos new actor, Athena's gow2 actor also came back for this game

[@girgeisbest34]

Would've been better to bring back t Carson just for this scene

[@NICKatronMC]

Watching these hallucinations really hits me, just feels so horrible to experience

[@frenchy9894]

Kratos is actually a really good father. Stern when he needs to be, but easy to understand and forgive.

[@mexiplays9184]

It's wierd to think that Baldur cannot be harmed or that he can't feel anything. Yet he's still has emotions. I do agree it messed up for him not to feel anything. Even just lying on a soft bed he won't be able to feel that. Sleeping on the ground or on the bed. It feels all the same to him.😭

[@joseamendoza8729]

Can't blame Baldur, indeed he was in so much internal pain

[@knightgabrielguanzon7613]

After all this time I'm kinda wondering why kratos regrets killing zeus

[@goldenhead293]

I think he regrets it because he lost so many lives along the way of his vengeance and that got alot of people killed for killing the Gods. At the end there he's just a chaotic monster that has nothing after he has his vengeance. Until Atreus comes along of course.

[@goen5601]

Probably because his realization that he had been use as a pawn in someone's game. And he might think of a better way to solve it. Killing your parent is seem so easy when you are in rage, but really you won't feel anything at all?

[@knightgabrielguanzon7613]

goen5601 never really been his actual father tho, born as a mortal then became a god

[@Roroni]

Zeus is his father, He's a demigod.

[@tonysoldan]

In the end of GoW 3 Athena explained that when Kratos opened Pandora's Box he released evil that consumed and changed the gods including Zeus. Zeus awakened the feelings of fear, hatred and anger towards his own child and so decided to kill him. In his rage Kratos vowed for vengeance and destroyed everything in his path. After beating Zeus Kratos released those feelings from him and left behind a frail half dead Olympian who only realized what he had done. As Kratos was blinded by hatred he needlessly grabbed his father and brutally finished him off. Remember, no matter how a father acts, their children still love them. Kratos regretted giving into revenge and killing his own parent, although not as much as he regretted getting tricked by Ares into killing his first family against his will..

[@remveel2443]

1:17, When I saw this, I immediately noticed Atreus being a bit too tall in that illusion. At first I thought it's just some minor detail being overlooked at but when the prophecy of Atreus killing Kratos was introduced in the walls of Jotunheim, I think that scene is a scene we might see in the new GOW...

[@geforcegtx10606gb]

that exact scene was in this game though?

[@sirejester1155]

If Atreus and Kratos have seen his first wife, Calliope, Deimos, and some of the god he's killid that'd be epic

[@ycahidmirl4935]

Feel bad for baldur. He wanted to feel like a human that has senses and vulnerability. But freya took it away that drove him insane.

[@cobaltprime9467]

I can’t blame Baldur for doing anything to get rid of his curse. Who could live like that. Freya had no right to do that to him, it’s a fate worse than death.

[@nightlock826]

It makes kinda of makes sense why Baldur acts the way he does in GOW 4 sensory deprivation is a effective and horrible torture tactic that drives people insane and if he CANT feel anything then that will be screwing his head up big time (that being said it doesn’t excuse his actions or what he does.)

[@stygiandragon3865]

How ironic, Freya expect Baldur to thank her for making him invulnerable, but Baldur ultimately thanked Kratos and Atreus instead for making him vulnerable during the final showdown.

[@Leon-ew7zy]

The voice of zeus is the same as dooku from star wars the clone wars

[@ladyselin35]

Kratos:Zeusss my powers have doubled since last time we met Zeus. Zeus: Double the anger double the vengeance. Athena: Good Kratos good. Kill him. Kill him now.

[@abdulbah2176]

Kratos: I shouldn't Athena: Dew it Kratos: *proceeds to kill Zeus senseless*

[@jacobtheblueman5715]

Abdul Bah I should’ve not done that, it isn’t the spartan way

[@ezioauditore6371]

Bruhhh I was thinking the same thing

[@LolGurrl91]

I feel really bad for Balder, poor guy had his senses of touch and taste taken away from him. We don't often think about it, but we rely a lot on these senses, just imagine what it would be like to have that taken away. It's easy to see why he would feel the way he did toward his mother, it's easy to see why he became the way his did.

[@raaghavnassa5481]

That was your plan !! You're both cracked I guess mimir had a point 😂

[@MichaelTheRead]

4:10 One has to wonder how Baldur doesn't see Kratos and Atreus just hanging there. He doesn't even have to lift his head; he ought to be able to see them in his peripheral vision. Unless he is just _that badly_ out of sorts. Which I suppose I could believe. Or at least, suspend enough disbelief. But boy, it's like...they're _right there_ Baldur, just look up for pete's sake.

[@racoby4932]

"It is time, my son. Look around at what you have done" I LOVE IT

[@N0rmandy]

I like baldur's plot. It makes sense. Imagine how angry and lost and the lack of empathy you would have if your mother stripped away your ability to feel anything including pain and death. That would be horrible.

[@N0rmandy]

I agree

[@Smiley0.1]

In a way, we are always feeling something like temperature or air on our body, skin etc no matter what we do, so I honestly wonder how Baldur feels, does it just feel like his whole body is numb or is it way worse? Can he even feel his own fingers touching him?

[@austinbutcher8106]

Honestly, I can understand baldurs rage , Freya knew how to take it away, but was like "I'm yr parent ik whts best " when she refused

[@eleazarthomas5858]

Wow their is a little origin of Baldur past Thats sad he does not want to be immortal he wants to feel things

[@metoo3342]

Eleazar Thonas He'd still be a god and immortal he would just be as vulnerable to death as the rest of the gods.

[@eleazarthomas5858]

me too. Wrong He was Curse man all he wanted is to feel things like everything

[@excaliburstone1294]

Every villain is a hero in their own way. This is just more prove that some villains have a reason to do what they do.

[@lindabourgeois3756]

The Baldur hallucination and him crying made me feel bad for him..

[@thesenate5913]

Baldur the only villian in GOW to have a sympathetic backstory

[@opfer88]

I love the evolution of Baldur, in that scene you see who is used to be before he was cursed... clearly a better man than Kratos. Now he’s just sad, angry, apathetic, And I love it !

[@opfer88]

I hope we will come back to Hel and see Kratos react to the murder of his own family.

[@wesleycolvin7158]

Complex villains make for much better story telling. Baldur's origin here makes him a MUCH more fascinating enemy.

[@rosaria8384]

I would rather die than not feel anything...Baldr's actor really nailed his angry character and not being able to be a god of joy

[@andyfoster8011]

I hope more games will lend the seamless cuts from gameplay to cutscenes that god of war has, it's far more submersible when they're interchangeable.

[@TheEvilLolPotato]

I love how Baldur doesn't see Kratos hanging on a wall like a cicada.

[@karsenkelly7566]

Even without the blood kratos wailing on Zeus is brutal

[@Majid216]

That was you plan? you’re both cracked 😂😂

[@husseinmujtaba6457]

damn i have to say unlike the interpretations of hell in different mythologies, the one in norse stands out the most, just so terrifying and eerie and cold, you getting tortured with your own past all alone in a place like this just thinking about it gives me goosebumps

[@sebasttps7096]

-Who are you?? -I am the son of zeus -do you have any idea how little that narrows it down

[@bariliyaev3145]

The way kratos says Zeus? Gives me chills

[@HCWz-_-Over9000]

This....is how you do level design. Helheim imo was the best designed area in this entire game.

[@prevostpierre9726]

That was your plan ? You're both cracked !! -Mimir GOW (2018) 😂

[@didijunior971]

lol Zeus looked so pissed

[@Ayyothatsbrandogaming]

F.L.A.G i'd be pissed if my son killed me too

[@didijunior971]

Random DuDe wow. . . I somehow never thought of that

[@Dnzjsjdk]

I think Baldur was a relatively good person since he clearly loved is ma and probably had her hart. He just gotten really depressed, angry, and frustrated. He never had any personal hate for kratos or his son he and I think he would have stop hunting them after kratos defending him.

[@gamblingg0urmet]

Alright am I the only person at the starting cutscene of the video who thought the bird creature in the background was Zeus

[@lordtabs]

Nope

[@its_Criminal1]

Baldur is one of the best villians in gaming history. I'll put him at my number 2 below sephiroth. It is so easy to feel bad for him: a god blessed with amazing powers but cursed to never feel anything and when he finally gets what he wanted he's blinded by vengeance just like younger kratos ( without the getting what he wants part) and so he forces kratos to kill him not enjoying the gift the miseltoe gave him. Freya was blinded by her love to her son to place such a curse on him. Living without being able to feel a thing is a fate much worse than death. At the end I really wanted him to live honestly.

[@quochoannguyen6473]

So Buldor is like undead: No eat, no sleep, no longer has feeling like love,hatred, just power except he is living. Damn i would rather trying to die,

[@takatathien]

Quốc Hoàn Nguyễn he has emotional feeling like love and hate like you see how he hates his mother. But he does not have physically feeling such as pleasure, pain, temperature, touch, etc...

[@PatrickCervantez]

Why is everyone confusing emotion with sensation?

[@PatrickCervantez]

Might not be the best word but it's 3 a.m.

[@theguy5348]

Ông cứ tưởng tượng nó như một thằng chơi VR ấy, làm cái gì cũng được nhưng mà cảm giác không thật. Và tệ nhất là không thoát game được, chơi liên tục vài thế kỷ vậy là phát điên thôi.

[@jesushernandez9637]

7:10 ahhh just like the good old days

[@sheermichaellibrero1015]

"My father," i swear that line always gives me goosebumps

[@rockonequine342]

7:22 It looks like Atreus is actually looking and at the time of playing I was like "Ohhh sheeet.."

[@oolalamamasita6314]

That was so sweet how atreus even though hes so shocked seeing his father beat the crap out of his grandpa still tries to snap kratos out of his trance

[@phantomeye5199]

That was just all illusion. Like Atreus kill Baldur. 6:58 This is where between Kratos and Zeus final battle when Atreus watch Kratos beat Zeus and tell him behind you!

[@goen5601]

I don't understand though why there are so many structure in Helheim!!! With good stone work no less, Who to hell build it!!?

[@Surfacekilla1]

goen5601 I get that

[@MugdhaMahdiShams]

goen5601 Hela?

[@warmcoffee69]

Jimmy Neutron obviously. Brush up on your God of War lore. Uncultured swine.

[@goen5601]

Completely not appreciated joke. Plus Jimmy Neutron is not belong here or Atreus will cut him up with knife after electrocute him badly.

[@Written_in_the_Starss]

The souls slaves,maybe.

[@Phantom-Neon]

Spoilers: The irony in it all is that Freya clearly knew what would break the spell on Baldur the whole time hence why she threw the mistletoe arrows sindri gave you into the fireplace

[@LtScarecrow87]

I’d like to point out that the only time Mimir actually sounded concerned/scared in this game was when Zeus was mentioned...