God Of War's Writers On What The Ending Means For The Future

In this excerpt from The Game Informer Show podcast, Ben Hanson interviews Matt Sophos and Richard Gaubert from Sony Santa Monica about writing the biggest spoiler moments for Kratos and Atreus on the PlayStation 4. Subscribe to Game Informer's podcast here - bit.ly/2iN5T5i

[@BernijayHEMA]

one detail I liked and found SUPER foreshadowing was the part when the serpent spits out the axe into the boat, because when Kratos picks it up a little text appears that reads "eitr imbued". After a bit of searching, it turns out that 'Eitr' is old Norse for 'poison', and according to Norse lore, Thor battles jormungandr at Ragnarok, killing the snake but simultaneously being poisoned by it, causing him to die after a few steps after the battle. Hence I believe that we gonna kill him with our axe that contains the serpents poison. Also, Ragnarok has started, because according to lore the events are set off with the death of Baldur, followed by a long winter (Fimbulwinter; the dwarves and Mimir mention it). The gods knew this, which is WHY Freya made him immortal, by talking to all creatures, trees and stones telling them not to harm him. Mistletoe I believe was too young to understand her, which is why it was his weakness (might be wrong on that one). It would be awesome and hilarious if the next game had a section where Atreus meets all the gods and insults them, like in the poem Lokasenna.

[@michaelbriggs4826]

I'm really surprised this isn't the top comment,really love this

[@Wolverine2532]

She passed by mistletoe because she thought it was too small and harmless. She thought it could never be made into a weapon. She passed it willingly so its her fault that it ends up being the thing that kills him.

[@AesirUnlimited]

My favourite piece of Norse Mythology is when Thor wore a dress and crashed a wedding in Jotunheim. I think Mimir talked about it as well.

[@barbaro267]

The theme of parents sacrificing for their children is all over the game, but the focus is mainly on Kratos and Freya. I think that Laufey's sacrifice was so tragic because of the reveal that she was the last full-blooded giantess. She (or her people at least) had the gift of prophesy, and she knew what her son would grow up to be. She knew he and her husband would face horrible and tragic things, and she couldn't be there. I can't imagine her pain, knowing she would die before seeing her son grow up into the person she saw in her visions. And how hard must it have been for her to keep her identity, visions, and fears to herself! No wonder the mural in Jotunheim showed her arguing with the other Giants. It would have taken her a lot of convincing to leave her people and to go live out the prophesy that would end with so much death and despair for her people and her family. It's bittersweet that we never got to see her as a living person because the lack of her presence is so obvious in how it impacts the main characters.

[@runicsniper4043]

barbaro267 underrated comment

[@michaelcastro1944]

Homerun!!

[@IceStormGale]

The last line of her theme translates to: "My only regret is..." ... and it's safe to say that not being able to be there with them, to see Atreus grow up and Kratos become a good father, is what she regrets.

[@mac1bc]

Word!

[@LucDutra92]

Maybe her death was intentional. Having the gift of foresight, she knew that Kratos and Atreus needed a push to embark on this journey which would result with the start of Ragnarok and the end of the Aesir. Maybe, like Dr Strange on Infinity War, she saw that her death would be the only way so things can play out as they must. And then she gave her life for it.

[@KingTata]

I am ready to pre-order the next one right now😑.

[@Theyungcity23]

Chris Kiwia I'm sure GameStop is taking pre orders

[@jorgemarquez8288]

Chris Kiwia deadass though!

[@jorgemarquez8288]

SJon Umber is amazon ok daddy?

[@jorgemarquez8288]

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[@MSFT81]

Jor Ge hell yeah..amazon is the way to go if u have prime. If you have prime, you can pre-order at 47bux vs 60bux..i pre-ordered at 47bux :p

[@raythewriter00]

I think they touched on Midgard's actual size in the game. Remember Kratos' conversation with Atreus about the World Serpent and his size. Atreus said that he was big enough to wrap around the world- their idea of the world...Remember by this time Kratos has done some 'real' world traveling that's why he said it was an exaggeration. Midgard is relative to the Norse view of the world that's why all the other Gods Greek, Egyptian, and Japanese all exist within the same timeline.

[@Alice_Longinuse]

RaytheWriter except you can't really compared this world to RL world

[@raythewriter00]

Well they may take the franchise to different countries...and at the end of GOW 3 Kratos fell into the ocean...I'm thinking it took Kratos some time to get to whatever part of Viking country he's in. And Tyr did a lot of traveling based on the lore so...Kratos had to see at least a small part of the world.

[@Alice_Longinuse]

RaytheWriter it doesn't explain how kratos moved to norse myth which cory barlog will explain in future . Also you need travel stone to travel to another myth to protected you from void which erased you

[@ReversedPolarity]

RaytheWriter Well... quite, well, not quite. The godly realms may exist in the same space separated as dimensions but not at the same time in every dimension or subrealm. Some subrealms have different times like Helheim. They also know what happens in other dimensions but I don't think everyone has the power to know about that and nobody is supposed to cross from one realm to another through Earth (I wonder why...). Mimir has some kind of special sight and he knows things, so maybe that's what it takes to know what's happening in other realms, like some sort of multidimensional knowledge. Although, I think every dimension is attached to a certain region of Earth and they affect those parts in their own ways because gods are celestial creatures whose powers of creation are part of themselves too, so killing a god from Norse mythology won't affect the Egyptian gods' influence on Earth, at least we can assume that, unless there's an even better explanation on how Earth is connected to all these realms and how those territories were established in the first place.

[@raythewriter00]

I kinda figured the same thing. Like in the last God of War the Greek world was destroyed, but no other realm was effected. So I wonder how they are going to explain the travel to other planes or whatnot. I mean they could use the Unity stone or some variant, but that would be too simple. Or maybe killing one or more Cosmic being will have some effect on existence as a whole... I don't know, but it would be interesting to see.

[@rossedwardmiller]

Everyone talking about Loki being “evil” check 14:00 - it’s all about perspective. Kratos even mentions it in this game. While our characters are working against the gods, those Norse gods think of Kratos and Atreus as the bad guys. It makes sense that Atreus is Loki - he and Kratos will be the downfall of all the Norse gods in the upcoming games. He may turn against Kratos for part of a future game, but he’s already “evil” in the minds of the Norse gods.

[@Germaximus]

I loved when Atreus got cocky. Up until that point I kept thinking "they better not kill this kid" and then after that I was like "I don't care if they kill him anymore." LOL Atreus is the true star of the game.

[@irishwolfhound1809]

Germ_the_Nobody haha thought the same thing. I was like boy! Feel the wrath of the backhand! Loved the game. On my second play through

[@Germaximus]

=)

[@uziah1113]

I really agree, I honestly loved Atreus the entire game, and i can't wait till they give him his own game

[@DVRKSTXR]

I was irritated as fuck when Atreus’s mindset shifted into this, “holier than thou” moral high ground. Then, after a few of his ignorant statements in-game, I started to level with it. Atreus is just a kid, probably no more than 11 or 12 years old. He’s been lied to his entire life, and his father starts warming up to him and letting him in after revealing his godlike heritage. It’s a lot to take in, within a couple of moments. Plus, his snap back to reality through his error in judgment was just as believable. Great characterization from Sony Santa Monica with Atreus.

[@Germaximus]

LOL Yeah. He was really well written. Loved it.

[@nephilimfto3548]

“There are no good gods BOY”

[@silverstorm6973]

The part when Atreus went arrogant then all of a sudden went nice and rational anback again always annoyed me i felt like something was missing . It makes sense now

[@KidsWreckMovies]

God of War and Bloodborne are two of the best games in this gen.

[@Globox822]

Kidswreckmovies exactly how I feel. Platinumed both

[@Emoney559]

Kidswreckmovies bloodborne is gay asf

[@KidsWreckMovies]

erick carlos lol ok bud

[@Emoney559]

Kidswreckmovies gameplay wise ..looks lame .but I will say looks a little better then dark souls fanboys favorite game that shit is super lame times ten

[@KidsWreckMovies]

erick carlos lol ok bud

[@gurgamous]

the "back of the hand" part was great. when writers take small seemingly insignificant instances that occur in everyday life and weave them into their writing it seems to resonate with the audience in an almost subconscious level. it comes off very authentic and uncontrived. a lot of seinfeld episodes were made this way which is part of why it;s arguably the funniest sitcom ever

[@runicsniper4043]

14:12 I agree with entirely. Everyone seems worried that Atreus being Loki means he’ll become evil but in GoW roles are reversed so he’ll be the god of mischief to the evil Aesir, not necessarily Kratos.

[@spawn7641]

with the help of Mimir yes god of mischief but as you stated he will not be evil

[@marhubyak]

I honestly don’t want Atreus to turn evil. I just feel like after that journey Kratos raised Atreus to be good and I expect him to be better than he was. I’d be disappointed if he turns out to be evil. Man Those 30 minutes to one hour where he was embracing the dark side was so frustrating.

[@Bingo_the_Pug]

I think that was just to show how intoxicating the power, not even the power, the KNOWLEDGE, of being of Godly lineage can effect anybody. Just like in the real world, if you came from a wealthy family or anything of significance, you would automatically think of yourself as “higher” than average people

[@kingghxstgaming]

I think it will happen again in the future titles, he does have that rage of Sparta in him just like his dad. He just hasn’t been able to control it yet.

[@kingghxstgaming]

Galva Tron how is it stupid? Where would the game go if he wasn’t Loki?

[@ReversedPolarity]

Just because Atreus is going to become Loki in God of War doesn't mean he'll turn out evil (he might not even be Loki, who knows...). In God of War, good gods (like Odin or Thor) are often seen as good because they restore order, but sooner or later, they oppress other gods, mythological creatures and people because they listen to imperfect prophecies of uncertain futures and they're afraid of losing the throne and their control over "chaos". The bad gods (like Loki) are often seen as bad because they're chaotic elements/rebels in a tyrant's paradise. That can be seen as evil to some people because they are either satisfied with a false paradise or they work with the tyrant, even though those rebels might just be protecting the everyday people they care (like Mimir or Brok or Sindri or Freya). That fits with Atreus role in all of this. He's chaotic like his father, but he's taught to be better, to defend those who feel oppressed by the gods that abuse of their power. Good and evil come in many faces, don't quickly judge a book by its cover.

[@SKhan-zp7lc]

Robert Green Super well said BOII

[@773fishin]

I loved the storyline especially as a father when he explained to artreus if it ment you living I'd be fine with you killing me blew me away

[@nzephier]

Especially knowing kratos already lost a family at his own hands, i bet he meant it even more than ever.

[@sergiomendoza4040]

Nitro Zephier well yeah, Atreus is his only shot at redemption if he fails again, can he even kill himself? God of war 3 going into this game suggests that he cannot even kill himself to end that torment. It would be just more problems that he would have to endure for however long eternity is that he failed not once, but twice.

[@numansabitkarali6189]

Pencil handling level of Ben Hanson: 9999999999

[@NeilWeaselboots]

“Cory talked about changing up the leadership of God Of War for the future” yeaaaa please dont do that, although I love all God of War games, Ascension was the weakest next with Chains of Olympus, I enjoyed 2 which was done by Cory, Ghosts which he was apart of and wrote for it, and now the new 2018 God of War. I would hope Cory just works on the every game moving forward cause he has and knows the vision and story he set out to tell. Having someone else come in sometimes, i feel like itll just be all over the place .

[@rtkratos77]

The story is already written by cory and the other writers , the just need to make the game.

[@Globox822]

Neil Weaselboots Cory wants to work on a new IP. That’s what he said. If he has the script written I am fine with that.

[@HadesHatredEdge]

Ascension was weak but the the combat made progress.

[@aristosachaion_]

Let's not forget that his relationship with his son was the backbone of this game's story. I'd hate for anyone else to be doing his work and potentially undoing what he's started, but he needs to spend time with his boy, too.

[@artstudioudara5273]

After the Last Jedi, I've developed a phobia on the idea of switching directors.

[@teesaw8197]

Man having writers talk about there games is freakin awesome. I hope Aaron Ehasz and his game will have a story this awesome

[@ianprososki6804]

Best game quote, " your both cracked" from mimir towards the end 🤣

[@aldi_901]

One thing im concerned with is how the map will change in the next games because surely they cant stray too far from tyr’s temple. So, i propose that the next game is set during the winter before ragnarok so the map has become even icier n stuff with new areas made of ice. The third should be set during ragnarok and the map is just straight fucked up

[@Znorkas]

Next game will probably be during ragnarök or very close to it.

[@dario_lind]

The next game will be all about ragnarök. Considering that during the secret ending it says year later, which probably means that they slept trough fimbelwinter. I’m pretty sure that Thor is trying to change his fate in ragnarök. I don’t really know how that will play out but that’s just my idea

[@0subscriberswithnovideos339]

Aldi_burnage135 that's what i thought

[@mythxlx8399]

They will without a doubt open up the other realms, there would be no reason to have them there with " Need travel ruin" or " Odin has blocked travel to this realm" other than keeping things mythogicly accurate.

[@aaj4146]

The question that I’ll pay my life for it how Kratos lives after he killing him self with the blade of olympus and how he still a god ?

[@stonecoldku4161]

Other small details I liked about the game came right at the beginning when you meet and fight the "stranger" (aka Baldur). The game gives you little clues and you don't even realize it. When you first open the door to the meet him the camera shot is right over the bag of Faye's ashes giving the subtle hint that Baldur is actually tracking a giant (Faye's ashes) and not Kratos. Then after the fight when Kratos lets Atreus out of the hiding spot under the floor. Atreus gets out and Kratos begins to close the floor door the camera pans down to show where he is hiding the Blades of Chaos.

[@Kicktugo55]

I got spoiled on it but i still really loved the ending

[@4kConglomerate]

Knowing Loki is one of the main causes of Ragnarok, it’s pretty genius that they made him into Atreus

[@jmg4520]

I wonder if Tyr saved kratos after he impales himself with the blade of Olympus and brought him to midgard to nurse him back to health, knowing that he was worthy enough to save all 9 realms, will definitely preorder the next one!

[@mythxlx8399]

Tyr didn't, kratos' curse is to walk the Earth for eternity. He can't die endless the curse is broken, similar to what baulder's problem was. Just except that kratos can fell everything.

[@silverstorm6973]

The game is 10/10 only bugs me a lot that missing part where Atreus turn arrogant

[@silverstorm6973]

DynamikeMedia I was hoping so but Cory barlog the Director mentioned on few occasions that they won’t add any dlc to the game so the you get the full experience when you buy the game and nothing cut off and even if so adding that after you completed the game will be pointless but if Sony pressure them to make a dlc the will go with Thor vs kratos and be like a complete game not like they cut something from The game then add it later kinda like uncharted 4 dlc

[@artstudioudara5273]

I hope Loki doesn't turn like pure "evil". Chaotic neutral suits him best

[@shamilahemsara6931]

He's such a good interviewer

[@BurnoutsAndBourbon]

MORE!

[@barbaro267]

This video. I like it. Another!!

[@JIGWIGPIG]

Dlc dlc dlc dlc. I don't like paid dlc but I would pay another 60 for dlc for gow 4

[@peterjohnlerum6580]

This question hasn't really been answered too well..despite how much research I've done. How did Kratos manage to survive being impaled with his own godly powers with the blade of Olympus...which drained the blade of his godly powers, as it stopped glowing. Is Kratos immortal, because based on his fight with baldur he regenerated on command.

[@connorschultz380]

Peter John Lerum The director of the game stated that kratos is cursed to never die and he knows it

[@jetstreamsam99]

Kratos did absorb the soul of Hades in GOW 3, and Cory Balrog has even said that's immortal due to that

[@MK-jz6gm]

Peter John Lerum its gonna be answered in god of war fallen god, the comic

[@chezuzinferno55]

anyone still extremely exited for the next one ??

[@xXTurelNosgothXx]

This game has enough potential to go on with the story. Another big adventure with those two, would be great.

[@horned_w1tch]

I just wish when Kratos told Atreus he was a god he would’ve said “I’m a God of War.”

[@thebarboxgamer2211]

I honestly believe that they are going in a different direction than just Kratos creating Ragnarok. I believe Fayes gift of vision led her to find Kratos and I believe Tyr led Kratos to this land since he can magically travel to different lands. Ragnarok is a cycle never ending and in this instance Kratos was floating by and Tyr brought Kratos to Faye. Faye sees that Kratos is different and wants to be better and forsees a different ending to Ragnarok, hence why a huge part of the game is character change and being better. Kratos imo is the end to the cycle of children killing parents and the ending of the cycle of Ragnarok which will change what will happen with Odin and the Giants.

[@mythxlx8399]

Very wise, and also true.

[@radekseky4571]

Seeing such a passion displayed in the industry fills me with so much joy every time. I'm hoping I'll be there one day too. You're my role models guys, good luck!

[@904austin]

Glad they brought up Atreus losing the attitude. It felt rushed and I was hoping for a big moment to finally break him free of that mindset. Instead Kratos just kinda yells at him during the 2nd Baldur fight, after Atreus shoots Kratos, and that's it lol.

[@ssszzz827]

Honestly this game is the only game in this gen that could be called a perfect game , i mean the story is great the characters are interesting as hell and the voice acting is epic and the music / graphics are crazy and hands down its the best hack and slash game in this gen , this game is truly the 2018 GOTY winner but since uncharted 4 lost 2016 GOTY to overwatch it won't surprise me if God of war lose this year GOTY , i know red dead 2 - Spiderman will also be great but in terms of gameplay - Story then im Sorry but God of war >>> Spiderman >>> Red dead 2 .

[@ReversedPolarity]

God of War has the perfect balance to be the GOTY of 2018, even though Spider-Man and Red Dead 2 are also fair choices. I'm sure their stories will be amazing as well, I don't play Spider-Man or Rockstar games just for the playability, they usually have decent stories too, and clever side stories. But this game is the game nobody expected, it was a bold move nobody saw coming and it's a game changer for the franchise in many ways as well as a HUGE package. I can't say the same for Red Dead 2 yet, but Spider-Man has some potential game changers this year. I won't be upset about any of these potential winners because they're all fair winners, unless a stupid candidate wins, like these things usually go. But from what I've seen so far, God of War deserves to be GOTY, it's just the full package - a great story overall, great relatable characters with relatable problems even though it's a fantasy world, the graphics accompany the gameplay, the gameplay is decent with amazing cinematic combos and options, the customization is a really nice touch, there's tons of side missions with very different levels of mastery and lots of lore and easter eggs to find and it's hard to get bored of free roaming (although I expect Spider-Man and Red Dead 2 to succeed better on that feature). Great options all around, but God of War's story is really something this year. The writers certainly know what they're doing with the lore and I want to see more of them in the future.

[@exoehin7396]

U don't know that...spider man didn't come out yet aswell as red dead 2, they could surpass gow. Let's wait and see

[@jiririnagl302]

Death Stranding and Days Gone top this easily

[@RandomThings12]

Don't get me wrong GOW is amazing, but saying GOW's story is better than Red Dead Redemption 2's story is just dumb.

[@forgemaster6120]

@@RandomThings12 rdr2's story is nothing compared to GOW

[@specialK17100]

The way that they broke down the little things has me so hyped. Not putting emphasis on the characters names and their mythos was an amazing idea, and having mamir n the dwarves tell u the backstory of each character in reverse made it even better n slower to figuring out. Like reading the myths they sound all heroic but wen mamir is telling them he's actually showing the cruelty behind their stories. It seems the route that they're going, atreus will not only be the successor but also the savior come ragnorok (possibly). And seeing as he has Kratos Spartan rage he may even inherit the blades of chaos. But I wonder if they'll reveal to them how their destinies were changed. I feel like that can be something else that challenges atreus approach to his godhood if he knows how powerful and cruel he really was/is.

[@kjb3503]

If god of war 4 was mind blowing imagine what god of war 5 be like on the ps5

[@Caine7ify]

Almost disappointed Atreus wasn't Siegfried, but him being Loki's cool.

[@zeronova1484]

Caine7ify, Yeah, him being able to talk to animals was almost a dead giveaway, not too disappointed though.

[@trentsims]

I'm interested to see what they do with Goddess Hel. She is Loki's daughter in the lore. She is kind of vaguely characterized in the myths, but really she doesn't show up much.

[@ytfvr9705]

BOY

[@jorgemarquez8288]

TeamApex BOI* sorry had to report your comment.

[@Rigmagog]

Jor Ge no it is BOY... BOY

[@pixelcancook]

What would really blow my mind is if we learn to love Arteus in this game and with the shocker that he is Loki....have to kill him as a GOD in the sequel...that would really make me sad as hell.

[@Theyungcity23]

Pixel Gamer Girls Atreus would kill Kratos if anything. No way he could kill his kid again

[@hilandstone]

Hell, Kratos straight up says in game that he would die if it meant that Atreus would live.

[@pixelcancook]

hilandstone i can hope so. It just hit me as a horrible twist last night while i was replaying 3 remastered.

[@barbaro267]

There was a line in the game in which Atreus asked Kratos "Would you let me kill you?" and Kratos replied, "If it meant you would live, yes." It may not be foreshadowing, but it at least sets up the idea of Kratos being willing to sacrifice his own life for his son, someone who is good-natured and is the prophesied Guardian of the Giants (according to their mural runes). It's a legacy thing more than anything, which is my favorite kind of story ever. A passing of the torch, if you will.

[@u-law2499]

Now I'm wondering how they would create a trickster in God of War

[@tumomukanihimself]

ain't no sunshine when she's gone, and she's always gone too long. anytime she goes away.

[@issurxozo]

Ive been waiting for this answer! so basically mid guard is earth and the olympians and norse gods and egyptions are all on the same planet. basically seperates like continents are today (europe/africa/north america ect) except they call them olympius and asgard ect.. All makes sence now and each plain has a god of gods ruling it (zues,odin, Ra) only thing that bothers me though is how the patheons of gods have not fought eachother or tried to conqour the entire planet instead of each being confined to there lands.

[@michaelmcauley9806]

Sooo can't wait for the sequel, best game of this generation by far.

[@cookingwithkratos]

This interview proves the Story has already been written and there will be *NO* delays for ragnarok

[@MKIS_33]

Lol story isn’t the only thing that delays a game... some people really thought gow5 was coming when gow4 was in 2018... in 3 years lol!!! The delay was coming clearly... no surprise there lol...

[@kingraj333]

It makes perfect sense that Atreus is Loki and frankly works really well for the future development. In Norse Mythology, the gods and everyone viewed Loki as an outsider and a devious evil trickster that constantly went against them. But in the perspective of the game, Loki is kidnapped by the Norse Gods, who may potentially kill kratos, and he takes revenge on them in the name of his father. Loki immediatley comes out as a good guy in our eyes.

[@Excalibur-Sonic]

I see the Werehog figure on the shelf. I have the same one XD

[@alexcrighton8915]

I'm glad their response to reading fan speculation was that it wouldn't change their mind if someone guessed the direction if it was the right way to go. I don't want the sequel to this to be a repeat of The Last Jedi.

[@rcu007]

I hope that Kratos is NOT Tyr! I mean, do you imagine him building walls? I would prefer if they make Tyr an inspiration to Kratos for what to become. From the panel that was in Odin's Secret Chamber, and showed four symbols that represent War, could mean either that Try (Kratos) is the God of War in every land, or that there is a God of War in every land. I would definitely prefer the latter.

[@barbaro267]

I would rather Tyr just be the example that Kratos and Atreus strive to become more like, than one of them actually being Tyr himself.

[@jetstreamsam99]

Actually, the 4 symbols on the mural in Odin's chamber wete just to represent the different realms Tyr had visited. But people only suggest it could be Kratos because of the Greek omega

[@jetstreamsam99]

But yea, it would seem there is a god of war in each realm, seeing as how Kratos is the one for Greece, and Tyr is the one for Midgard

[@hybridhd7436]

Tyr died already lol

[@variablelife5338]

Tyr is imprisoned by Odin and Thor it's basically on the Mural and GOW Wiki.

[@kambion]

Oh... so that's why everything feels too quick after Tyr's vault thing.

[@Otherworlded]

I'm meh about Atreus being Loki. It was a mouth dropper, but at the same time I hope the next game isn't too predictable. I hope Atreus doesn't become evil. If he has his moments, like in this game, cool. I'm okay with character conflict and development. Embracing a part of himself. Just kind of hoping this is not a Darth Vader type of thing.

[@tempestbrown5033]

Lester Robinson Loki from the myths isn't really evil.

[@Kicktugo55]

Lester Robinson I think the game will take a different approach to mythologhy. I'd like to see Atreus being a big enemy to the Aesir, but not actually "evil". He will only be seen as evil and painted as such by the Aesir.

[@MyUniqueFreak]

everything is possible considering that thor in the game is basicly a bad guy and not the super hero we know from the mcu

[@ReversedPolarity]

Lester Robinson I get where you come from, but I personally don't mind Atreus actually becoming Loki because, in God of War, the mythology turns upside down. What you think you know about gods is tested to the limit because both good and evil have many faces and in God of War, the "good" gods seem often afraid of losing the throne they fought so hard to get to make a difference in their own way. The "bad" gods, like Loki is often seen, can be seen as either evil or, in a certain way, the rebel guys that don't tolerate tyrany from other gods. In my mind, Atreus might become Loki, but he's not evil, he's going to be a rebel who will fight back Odin and Thor as we know. Rebels are often seen as evil to those who already are satisfied when they could be the everyday people saviors, while some tyrants see themselves as good in their own image because they feel their reasons are justifiable, however radical they are... it's a philosophical dilemma on black/white characters.

[@SageofSorrow]

Loki is more an asshole than evil in Norse Myth. Just a big nuisance

[@drakenfist]

I'm so glad he asked the question of why Atreus just suddenly becomes a dick. I'm a big defender of that level as I really liked it...still...was quite a dramatic leap of Atreus going from "we're god's we can do anything we want!..this is amazing!" to "fuck you Sindri!" (not in his own words, but he may as well have said that).

[@theshaolinallen8600]

I really hope Cory directs the next game, the way he fought for this game is incredible. The next director, if there is going to be new one, should hopefully have that same level of passion and dedication that made this game a masterpiece

[@anthonygiles328]

Who blew the horn while kratos and Atreus weren't even at the lake of nine?

[@OasisMilo]

Lovely guys and a great interview

[@JIGWIGPIG]

Considering modi wanted to take atreas to asgard, and Baldur was close too, it seems either Thor or Odin will take him in the next game. Think about it. Baldur was able to lock the bridge into asgard, and said the full wait of asgard would come crashing down on them. Meaning there was a way to asgard, but only certain gods could travel there. Baldur also saw himself in helheim in the illusions and the illusion him said, "the feasting, the drinks, the woman, were for nothing," because he couldn't feel anything for what his mother had done to him. This means Valhalla will be in the next games and my body is ready.

[@litlad4112]

I hope they do some DLC with the realms that you can not go to because I can't wait 3+ years for the next game and some DLC might quench my thirst for a little while.

[@sulphuricacid16]

I really want them to announce GoW5 this e3

[@uporjordan1844]

the next game should have the first mission where they are trying to figure out a way to hide the jotunheim tower again. while encountering a few bosses along the way and stumbling onto another entirely different quest also. kratos has to kill thor and take mjolnir considering all its heirs are now dead and that would be super dope👌 he is the son of zeus after all🤷‍♂️

[@shaN3R0]

Great interview

[@GetSchanked]

Atreus is Loki, but he will likely only be the "Evile Trickster God" towards the Aesir since the writers have inverted the morality of Norse Gods. Thor and Odin are evil in this game (whereas they're portrayed as "good" Gods everywhere else), so they will flip the script Loki too, making him evil towards the Aesir Gods and not kill Kratos. Plus it will tie into the whole theme of this game in that he will "choose his identity" and "break the cycle of Gods killing their fathers."

[@Emoney559]

I have a feeling now with that travel run we will trave many place and like Helheim where the eagle is and Zeus was you will be able to make a path

[@andymantle4979]

Possibly something the game may be leading towards is Ragnarok not being a world ending episode, but simply the end of a cycle i.e. the moment where Midgard is freed from the influence of the gods, much like Greece was at the end of GOW3. Ragnarok would be more of a rebirth than an end. Will be the end of the bloody Aesir though!

[@cesarm.3656]

I just want an older, taller more bad ass playable Atreus and an older white bearded weathered and more vulnerable Kratos

[@Joe-fq6bz]

Thought atreus cockiness didn't really fit. Though his character was expertly done

[@iceberg623]

I feel like what they should have included in the game is the blades of exile instead of chaos because it follows the storyline and it would fit with the current story since he left the Greek pantheon to then start a family. Dont get me wrong, when he said that he was going home to dig up his past to get a flame that would work in hel I about shit a brick. I mean he's got the old scars, the white skin, the mark around his body, even the marks from the chains so how come the blades couldn't stay the same?

[@Jcash330]

I have a feeling that Atreus will be the one to kill Kratos. The game makes too many references to a son killing his father that I feel is foreshadowing of the ultimate demise of the God of War. Not to mention it would be ironic that Kratos dies the same way this series starts: at the hands of family. Bitter sweet if it ends that way.

[@jakestiebert8867]

This won't happen because there all about breaking the cycle

[@freedoggos6036]

I wished he'd asked what Thor and Odin and all the other gods were doing while Kratos was killing BOTH of Thors sons and his brother

[@gjram8807]

That question is already kinda answered in the game.. Mimir says.. Odin will not interfere the journey as he know he has the upper hand..

[@vilebuddha883]

It’s been answered already. Odin was betting on Kratos kickstarting Ragnarok earlier than it was predicted to because that way, Odin’s enemies have less time to prepare and it gives him the upper hand. It comes at the cost of some of his family members lives but he still thinks he’ll be able to change his fate thanks to Atreus and Kratos shaking things up.

[@barbaro267]

Crap, so Thor won't die from Jormungandr's poison? Crap. Well, he and Kratos can still die by each other's hands I guess...Kratos is doing a great job ruining...err, I mean changing everyone's prophesied fates.

[@guitarking367]

No one is probably going to read this. But I feel as though the only reason why Kratos admitted to killing people and Zeus was because Atreus saw it in helheim. I don't think he'd readily admitted it at the end without him having seen it.

[@sulphuricacid16]

Just tell me who was it who called the serpent when Atreus was sick?

[@gergenthequietmetalhead4226]

Headcannon: All the gods of all the pantheons all created the world, but they don't really notice that there are other gods working on the same science project.

[@toptobottom247]

The most stressful moment for me was Atreus was getting cocky after he found out he was god by blood.

[@rafaelcarrillo6959]

All I know is, when we fight Thor, in the sequel, it would so badass if Kratos grabbed Mjolnir and smashes Thor's face in

[@DemonizedAlucard]

Rafael Carrillo and then you get to keep it as a weapon that would be bad ass

[@dylanmatthewper2003]

No, Cory says Kratos would never have Mjöllnir. So Thor killed Kratos/Farbauti!

[@mythxlx8399]

@@dylanmatthewper2003 during the fight with Thor it will be a hectic tie. Thor will get his ass beat, and kratos will lose his eye ( and also get his ass beat).

[@AtheistSPARTAN]

Athena is in hia head but also she was born from Zeus's head in Greek myth soooooo.... Just some food for thought

[@sam_widge9183]

19 min Ever continues?!?!? They just made extra cutseens , and admitted Atreus was Loki Do u really think it’ll end also they need Cory he is the heart and soul of god of war

[@ravingmadman3]

Moar! These guys are awesome!

[@rocketpunchgo1]

Hey Mr Hanson- fun fact about myself: I have a pet peeve about people (for instance in movies and television shows) pretending to drink out of empty cups. Otherwise you are awesome good sir.

[@eduardoblanco7316]

What happend to kraros from GOW 3 TO THIS NEW one?

[@GororordSSJ]

Is it confirmed that there will be another game for the series?

[@gabrielbetancourt9577]

I would be very pissed off if they decide to turn Loki evil 😡😡😡😡

[@ReversedPolarity]

Why? Good and evil come in many faces. Sometimes "good" is seen as tyranny and oppression while for some is seen as paradise in a world of chaos and sometimes "evil" is seen as rebellion in a world of oppressed people that can't fight for themselves (which could be a good thing - civil disobidience can be a good thing when applied correctly), but to some it's considered evil because it destroys the idea of a false utopia where a faction suffers and another oppresses. Good and evil are just concepts that we create to identify a certain behavior, it doesn't mean the person itself is evil. Loki may be evil, but so is Odin and Kratos, except Odin oppresses people because he's afraid to lose to chaos, keeping the cycle of the Ragnarok going. Kratos killed gods for revenge but also to free those who felt oppressed by them. And if Atreus is Loki, that only means he'll be a middle ground player in all of this, not good nor evil, he's just a god that wants to thwart the plans of other gods like Odin and Thor, so that they can't have influence on other people, and that is good. I mean... there's a reason why Loki is the god of mischief.

[@gabrielbetancourt9577]

Robert Green your definitely right in the previous god of war games kratos was kind of a douchebag too and well when it comes to atreus well let's just say what mimir said the apple doesn't fall too far or something like that he said basically it's pretty much like father like son so I definitely agree with you 100% but I just didn't like the way atreus attitude changed in mid game when he learned that he's a god he basically became an asshole but I don't blame atreus because also kratos took so long to tell him about his true nature and also do you think that atreus might end up killing kratos because I don't see it happening even though kratos did say after the final fight with baldur that if it meant for atreus to live he'll let atreus kill him

[@ReversedPolarity]

Gabriel Betancourt Even though I think Atreus was a pain in the ass for a section of the game, I felt it was a good move because it didn't feel too out of character. Atreus is still a kid, kids often go too far when they learn new stuff and they're often driven by their instincts even though they are probably wrong about something. We don't quite know if it was manipulation from someone else, but it was probably Atreus's young instincts that did the talking for him. Kratos was also part responsible for those scenes, because he doesn't have a lot of experience as a dad in this game, but both grew up and connected. It's all part of making the story more relatable. Do I think Atreus is going to kill Kratos? Hum... maybe he will, but as a way to trick Odin or Thor or something like that. I don't think he'll turn evil and kill Kratos, but he'll be the god of mischief and he'll be evil enough to trick even the most clever of gods. Like Kratos said: Atreus was a Spartan, so he's supposed to be strategic, determined and Atreus always saw the good in everything.

[@gabrielbetancourt9577]

Robert Green on that stone wall also shows atreus walking without kratos with wolves behind him after the supposed death of kratos though they have to explain so much on the sequel

[@ReversedPolarity]

I also don't understand much of that last picture on the wall where Atreus and Kratos have a sort of cord passing through their heads, but maybe Atreus will give him life after killing him? Or maybe he's going to possess his powers after Kratos' death? Who knows... they really have to explain a lot. Good thing all of this sets up a nice story.

[@MoneyMotivation360]

Should I watch... covering my eyes & biting my nails. I don’t want the next game ruined

[@Hannodb1961]

Who else here is comparing the feeling of taking the temperature on your forehead using the back of your hand vs you palm? Seriously, though - I don't notice a difference.

[@gjermund8053]

There is no evil in norse mythology. There are just people with freedom

[@TheKeithvidz]

A writer myself. Small details matter.

[@linjo2030]

Will we ever know how Kratos survived? :/

[@nzephier]

You mean survived god of war 3? Cory barlog confirmed he is currently immortal, so it'll take some big guns to kill him.

[@ryanfenstermacher5685]

Rain Johnson should take their advice on subverting expectations and do what is right for his movies just not the opposite of what fans think he’s going to do

[@vilebuddha883]

Ryan Fenstermacher Luke dies. Get over it.

[@ryanfenstermacher5685]

Tlj is a great film but shitty Star Wars movie. Betraying years of characterization makes no sense whatsoever

[@vilebuddha883]

Ryan Fenstermacher that is your opinion.

[@ryanfenstermacher5685]

I’m not gonna “get over” my opinion 😂

[@ryanfenstermacher5685]

That’s not how opinions work silly

[@DoctorOblivian]

actually kinda bummed that it wasent actually Athena... there is defenetly still bad blood there and her taunting him would be perfect. Im kinda hoping for her to appear as a boss in the future just to kill the bitch and have a bit of a Kratos relapse moment. let Atreus see first hand what horrible things his father is capable of.

[@coolumar335]

So Jormungandr's existence is tied to Loki's? Knew it @10:46

[@abrahamherrera1713]

Umar Nasir the world serpent is lokis son

[@ekopermana7150]

Remember when Mimir said, Jormungandr will be battle with Thor and he will be send to time when he not born yet, also Jormungandr is really hate Thor, that's why he ate Thor's statue. Also Jormungandr said he know Kratos and Atreus pain, that's why he want to help them. So.........the conclusion is, Jormungandr that Kratos and Atreus have already met is Jormungandr from the future, who send back to the past on Ragnarok event

[@ekopermana7150]

And what's amazing, Faye already know all of these, even her own death and Kratos's fate. I'm really excited how Kratos's fate on the next game, because we have seen Kratos is dead many times on God of War 1-3, also he have killed death himself and The Sisters of Fate. But..........hey dude this is not greece, Kratos maybe son of the king of olympus, but this not Olympus

[@JonathanTaylor85]

Well, yeah that's his son. Fenrir, Hela, and Odin's horse are also his children too.

[@SonyOnly]

You know what?You know your games is fucking good when gamers are begging for DLC.

[@vinchfernandez]

I Want to see Asgard

[@algoodie7761]

Don’t look at the comments the game was awesome, make your story, and on the project that is GOW, please make multiplayer. Ps asensions multipkayer was fun

[@looseyourzlf]

Gods worlds are different from each other thats clear. greek gods and norse gods are separated otherwise they would've clashed even before god of war 1.. So midgard is only a nordic land thats the logical thing to implement in the gow world because odin is supreme in that world, which means he sees this piece of land as everything the gods owns. But if not then thor didn't come to the house of kratos for a fight ! Guess what, he came for the sake of the Aesir ! Which means they should be together to fight surtr or something else ? This is the only explanation for thor knocking their door after 5 years.. So whats the point of revenge after five years if we considered thor want to revenge ? There will be no point unless he needs a help from a worthy god.. Case closed..

[@antomaka2144]

I still dont know who blew the horn

[@ethanb6576]

Baldur, I think

[@ethanb6576]

It may have been Atreus from the future, Jormungandr does recognise him later after all

[@RezTKF]

Everyone gets butthurt about atreus getting cocky when everyone acts JUST like that. Everyone acts like theyre a god until something hits them in the face but many people wish it was them doing the hitting. Hitting people definitely fixes things..... then why did Kratos NOT hit atreus?? ...because he knows thats not the way and he is BETTER than that. Everyone acts like cocky Atreus. They just hate seeing a reflection of the truth because it hurts.

[@orlandovalle477]

Thor is gonna be the final boss in GoW 2, then Odin. Both on the PS5

[@thegrocerytv]

So are we gonna have god of war 5 ? I hope yes :)

[@samkid1658]

Video buffering loop cant play

[@MohamedAhmed-eg3mh]

Who else here can never hear the creators of the game speaking about it because he doesn't want believe it's not real?k