God Tier Podcast #7 - Ras Kass Speaks On His Beefs With Alchemist, The Game, Ghostwriters and More

[@NoJumper]

1:41 Too west to be east, too east to be west, being versatile was a tricky place to be in the late 90s, you could only be one thing 4:29 Little by little rap was sectioned into areas, cities etc 5:40 Living in Carson, but went to school in Watts, claiming both "Watts C-Arson" 8:13 Rumor is different nationalities were put together in Carson, potentially to beef with each other, until mix babies started poppin out everywhere 10:40 Dizaster traveled all over the world because of his bars 11:09 Ras Kass wrote his first rap when he was 10 years old, says he's trash now, but thought he would save the whole block with his talent 13:09 When did the urge to take his songwriting skills into a challenge 14:25 Ras Kass was discovered by Battlecat 17:20 Snoop used to perform at Ras' school 18:54 Ras actually battled a few times just to prove his skills 21:31 Label tried to change him, made him go more commercial but these albums never came out for that reason 22:28 Ras, just like philosopher Descartes, wanted to showcase his duality as a person 23:34 "Marinate" was Yoyo's beat first but he got it eventually 24:04 Ras and Lush rap along to "Marinate" 24:26 Dizaster battled Bad Azz at a Snoop music videoshoot 25:32 Dizaster didn't want to go too crazy but then Bad Azz dissed him so Diz snapped 28:11 Diz asks Ras to explain the controversy behind the "Home Sweet Home" beat aka Jadakiss' "We Gonna Make It" 28:45 Ras Kass explains the downhill battle with Alchemist after Ras bought 3 beats from him 30:40 Ras says Alchemist was crying for not getting paid from other rappers so Ras was like "I'll pay double no problem", at the time Ras was signed to a major so money was never an issue 31:07 Ras says Alchemist took his kindness for weakness and that why he got comfortable lying since then 31:20 Alchemist also complained about Muggs and other people he was working him for not paying him 32:08 Ras and Alchemist go to the studio, Ras picked beats and confirm them on the spot 33:08 3 months later Ras asked Alchemist for 2 more beats, Ras has paperwork so everything is documented 35:00 "Home Sweet Home" (aka Jadakiss' "We Gonna Make It") had a release date, was in the process of making the vinyls, Alchemist calls Ras and asks still gonna use that beat (at that point Ras paid and all the paperwork are signed by lawyers) 35:17 Alchemist still played "Home Sweet Home" to Jadakiss and let him use it without telling anyone (aka Jadakiss' "We Gonna Make It") 37:22 Ruff Ryders gave the record to Flex, 2 days later Jadakiss "We Gonna Make It" was a hit, Flex didn't know it was Ras records and eventually apologized 37:56 Then Ras lawyers were like: "What you wanna do? Go after them?" 38:44 Ras didn't want to f*ck Jadakiss' situation so he chose not to, Ras took the high road but Alchemist f*cked up 39:24 Alchemist allegedly continued to lie about it and flipped it on Ras, Ras says he got more tea on Alchemist 41:20 Ras came back with a diss to Alchemist, has nothing against Jadakiss at all 42:43 Ruff Ryders didn't do things properly either coz they bailed on the meeting with Ras and still dropped the Jadakiss song: "We Gonna Make It" 45:15 Ras says Alchemist took his kindness for weakness and he's still lying about it 47:17 Ras says Alchemist should apologize for lying for 20 years 50:08 "I'm not giving Game no energy, that guy is the worst!" 50:31 Ras says Game going at Eminem is pure desperation 51:12 Ras says Game has hella help when it comes to writing his bars 52:09 Ras says Game doesn't write his rhymes and has the nerves to lie about it 52:54 "Game wants to go at Eminem, but Em writes his rhymes" 53:08 Giving the regular top 5 that everyone mentions is some groupie sh*** 54:09 Ras asks Game: "You want a shot with the top dog, what did you do with that pen, who is you?" 54:30 Ras told Wendy Day to do Rap Olympics every year, rappers filmed in a room with pens and pads, see who writes what, no ghosts writers around 56:10 Diz battled a rapper who paid for his bars and used a ghostwriter for a BATTLE! 58:52 Ras says songwriting with ghostwriters is cool, but don't come over here in the lyricist lounge with ghostwriters acting like you're the bar guy 59:43 Ras breaks down the difference between songwriting and battle rap/bars 1:03:26 Dizaster thinks there should be two different genres for "actors" in rap and real lyricists 1:04:12 "Look foo!" Debate about the genre and sub-genres of hip hop 1:07:30 Should everything be segmented? Separated categories? 1:09:04 Ras pays homage to battle rappers keeping the art of lyricism alive 1:10:05 Lyricist are inspired by battle rappers and vice versa 1:10:35 However, Ras thinks that in battle rap, some bars are a little too expected, like sports references or gun bar 1:11:04 Is battle rap getting too much like the industry now? Theatrics over skills? 1:12:50 Lord Finesse inspired Lush to do punchlines 1:14:40 Lush says Ras' song "Nature of the Threat" taught him way more than anything in school 1:18:16 Ras Kass explains his album title "Soul on Ice" 1:22:21 Kleptocracy generation? 1:23:20 Ras says he could've gave the game some basic rhymes but ultimately didn't 1:24:55 The Kool Moe Dee report card had actual criteria, nowadays, people unqualified to talk about hiphop make lists with rappers who don't even write their own lyrics 1:29:26 Ras loves music and never did it to be a huge star when he started 1:31:47 S/O J57 1:33:15 Looking forward to Cypress Hill & Onyx Verzuz in May 1:36:42 Ras album dropping with Havoc from Mobb Deep

[@CrookedRosePOD]

Long Live Caddy Ron

[@timelytinkering7946]

Love from No Where Nebraska!

[@monteellis4436]

Thank you

[@derfgerps4016]

Words cannot describe how appreciated this podcast is. Ras is easily one of the top ten most underrated of all time.

[@HeyMissesParker]

Very underrated

[@aocphd8307]

This comment is underrated

[@thcrtn]

He never plays, he's too good to even be a rapper... Bar lord status.

[@AR-qv3tb]

Everyone says thay about every broke underground rapper

[@THEsoulquarian]

Ras is a living legend. Severely underrated emcee

[@fitprotunes]

Rassassination is one of the most slept on albums of all time. Great interview.

[@Milan-vi1bq]

Shitty beats

[@JiggyMiggytv]

This was one of the realest hardcore hip hop interviews on No Jumper EVER! Absolute quality content and passion for the culture. Ras Kass Is my favorite 90s rapper next to Big L. Soul on Ice is one of the the BEST hip hop albums Ever. This was so worth the watch!

[@Matteo_11]

I really, really like that GTP is getting in its lane of interviewing OGs! Keep bringing in the real MCs.

[@kond1]

You can tell Lush is a genuine fan

[@Miyamoto_Musashiii]

Great interview/conversation 🙂 Great hosts Diz & Lush they're a great addition to the No Jumper team 🔥 Ras is amazing Soul on ice was my ish when I was young 💥

[@Martialarts1on1]

Another fucking fire one! Love tuning in to a new Diz and Lush podcast! Greatness every time

[@realtalk2586]

It’s a trip seeing people hate on this. God Tier is my favorite podcast in the world right now.

[@justinrandy5132]

Real talk

[@JoshPoor-Big_Josh_P]

Who's hating? I just read all 30 comments and literally there was only one that was negative LOL

[@ccprophets]

WHO THE FUK IS HATIN, TUCKER?

[@fitprotunes]

scrolled down about 100 comments, cant see sny hate

[@theyoungloskateproject3934]

Diz and Lush are perfect for this job!!

[@kingsun122]

Dope pod and I like Adam doing this because he damn well knows his fanbase doesn't know anything about Kass or any of the people on here.

[@xbabu142x]

I am so glad he is letting these people establish their own brands in a way where its tied to who the host/interviewer is. Yeah its more business risk, but with that risk comes increased profits too, and its the morally and culturally responsible way to do it anyway. Like all these people he brings on have personality and actually appear like a human person. Also its always good to have better content too as a viewer!

[@TheMasterMindV]

Bruh his album with Apollo Brown is incredible, criminally underrated artist here.

[@joel642]

I'm so glad they brought up the alchemist beat story.. someone who isn't a hip hop head would've never brought this up or even knew about it. Nice job guys

[@muybruno]

Lush needs to write a LA hip hop / street history book.

[@markhokit2]

The West has deadly lyricists. Shouts out to Kurupt and Planet Asia, just to name a couple. Would love to hear other people's favorite Westcoast lyricists.

[@JonDGAF]

Ras Kass is an LA Legend. H20 Proof is one of the dopest songs on the planet.

[@DAK272]

Dope edition to No Jumper! These convos need to be had

[@BradleyDigital1]

Bro, yes! What a guest! And the time been extended. Very happy, thank you. 💪

[@smittybenzo4693]

"..so fool please I move MC's like oz's I want mo cheese than Kraft macaroni....got love like Chachi and Joni microphone Michael Corleone....." - Ras Kass - Miami Life (1996).

[@lking3024]

Nature of the Threat…historic and poetic. Thank you Ras

[@endone7368]

Yo mad respect to y’all for this podcast. I never thought I would see someone mentioning & chopping it up with the greats on this platform. Truthfully to hear Freestyle Fellowship mentioned on No Jumper is mind blowing. They are the reason I started exploring more west coast “underground” hip hop not just East Coast.. i gotta show Myka 9 this. I’m not a close friend or anything just chat on IG occasionally but definitely need to show him this. I’m 40 years old & raised in southern Cali I been listening to real hip hop longer than I can remember & this pod right here is genius… You guy’s should interview Myka or even some more of the guy’s from the Fellowship & or the Good Life.. Blessings y’all

[@twooclock9458]

Very grown and mature of Ras to not go all the way in when someone isn't there to defend themselves...a lot of people would have

[@andresito619]

good to see Ras Kass getting his flowers while he’s still here! WC legend 🚀

[@gnosis7188]

This is big, I'm super excited for this. For those of you not in the know, or too young. Rass Kass was like the Kendrick Lamar in L.A of the 90s . Rass Kass is a lyrical titan.

[@quasarthemechanical]

Ras Kass is in my top 5. Thank you for this 🙏🏽.

[@smittybenzo4693]

Ras Kass's style influenced Eminem's style which helped Em transition from his previous style which was like Nas. Check Eminem's 1st album "Infinite" (1996). Btw Eminem is one of the greatest rappers ever.

[@smittybenzo4693]

@@tfromcali89 I'd even toss Redman in there.

[@funDzAmEntal]

@@tfromcali89 And add AZ in there…

[@bigdangerous5044]

@@funDzAmEntal Not AZ

[@Milan-vi1bq]

@@tfromcali89 no esham…?

[@rudyrivera8059]

Redman definitely was a huge influence on Em

[@freedwy2978]

Finally some fire content. Been waiting for this

[@AyeeDeeMadeIt]

Stop lying

[@debbiebridal9344]

Lush is a great host, thoughtful questions & should host his own podcast…Disaster is the king of bars! I grew up listening to Rass Kass LA legend!

[@JulioFromWestWorld]

The coolest battle rap podcast in the world!! Making history everyday!!

[@64hapz]

Ras Kass' take on the high road is something else. Damn I love hearing these humbling stories about artists having respect for others careers. Especially when you're at the short end of the stick. Alchemist is dope & his beats are tight but something about him kinda never made me a huge fan , I could never put my finger on it though. Imagine if Ras didn't take the high road.... Where would Al & Jadakiss be at today?

[@AliasOnlyTV]

Hurts to hear al being dirty like that, but all respect for ras for not fuckin up kisses career.

[@JiggyMiggytv]

Facts Brother

[@joel642]

I like diz on this platform.. He has good interview skills and the fact that they interviewed Ras kass.. Nice change of pace where no jumper is always interviewing lil dickhead etc.. Salute

[@anthonyhoward4684]

This dude is one of the greatest ever ever...if u don't know his music I suggest u look him up.!

[@CrookedRosePOD]

Long Live Caddy Ron🤟🏼🌹

[@Marquies_Terry]

Lush should have been had a podcast dude is just great at talking via a battle or on interview the ability to control the crowd and Dizaster is the embodiment of Battle Rap. Shout out to Adam22 for seeing the value in people.

[@MyNewYorkCity.]

Rass is a legend 🤞🏽

[@Freewarrior2]

You're getting a sense of the history of rap and Los Angeles in the 80-90s from this interview. Been a Ras Kass fan since I first heard "Nature of the Threat" back in 1996.

[@alejandromariscal9164]

Upmost respect to Ras Kass for biting the bullet & letting everyone get to their higher achievements in this culture. He got on here & shined light on many topics that needed to be addressed & myself included learned alot from it. Overall GOAT top tier lyricist for decades in his own right. Flawless content from NO Jumper overall 👌

[@woolyhatkatt]

My first time pulling up. Entertaining. Great show. Good to see hosts that know and live hip-hop.

[@RoLLUpAFat1]

Ras Kass still a top dog. Never stopped playing since 1996. My patna from East Oakland put me up on Ras Kass and mind everyone reading this Oakland and Richmond still beefing to these days. a couple Bay Area folks that still connect. Ras Kass brought us together. Respect 🙏🏼 Ras

[@TheWattsSuperhero]

Wattssup to Rass Kass. caught you at SOBs in Manhattan always a good dude!!

[@ProducedByMERC]

That Alchemist story is WILD

[@ProducedByMERC]

That David Banner song with Snoop and Nip was always dope to me

[@TheJDeuce]

Dope interview with Ras Kass. I always enjoy hearing his interviews and definitely learned more ish about his career and such. Great platform!

[@sammerrigan8700]

Lush's knowledge and passion for everything hip hop really shines through and makes him a great host when interviewing some of these legends.

[@tatmoneyvideos6877]

Rass Kass the 🐐. Truly underrated. Best out the West. Good to see you again after so many years. Used to see you on Market St. in Inglewood(My Hood)kicking it with the lil homie Bad Azz. May he R.I.P.

[@Vandalio_Saez]

Ras has never been contradictory he is a well rounded man who grew up in the hood and rose above circumstance he's one of the illest M.C's all time east or west 💯🙌🔥

[@Wobbothe3rd]

One of the most underrated podcasts out, love it.

[@Condemnhummus]

Lush one killed it

[@AgentSickOrange]

Everytime i hear the Matt Hoffa podcast intro where he's rapping that he's the only battle rapper to smack rappers. I think of Dizaster punching Matt Hoffa

[@ryancrutchfield1256]

No Jumper changing the game with these additions to No Jumper team. Rass Kass a LEGEND, CARSON IN THE HOUSE!

[@Some_Guye]

Man Ras has no filter & I love it.

[@payneindustries2491]

Great Interview! They mentioned my favorite group of all time, Living Legends!

[@sotrillsoill]

The golden child !!! 👦

[@rockbuddy6866]

Been waiting for this one.. ras kass top 3 lyricist’s of all time, easy!

[@christinaportillo3100]

Favorite podcast rn loving the back stories

[@cfhall54]

Yooo Diz mentioned some real R&B dudes! Shout out to Butch Cassidy, Kokane, Devin the dude, Cee lo and RIP Nate Dogg!

[@Chris_..I..]

I could've just listened to this forever 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@kreigerbailey3550]

Portland, JAMAICA in The Building !!!!!!!!!

[@takeoverusa]

Ras Kass, one of the Goats of Hip Hop lyricism. Much Love ❤

[@theonemrham]

Man I loved that Miami Vice Song that Rass Kass did with Coolio on the hook back in the 90s. It's great to see some of the underground legends grow old gracefully while still being Lyrically elite. Much continued success to Rass! However, that Bad Azz news kinda blew me away because I didn't know he know died.... Krazy 😑. RIP.

[@KD_SWAGGER]

Glad Rass Kass didn't ruin Jadakiss' We Gonna Make It with a cease & desist. I believe Rass Kass' story by the way.

[@lyriscologistr.o.l.5763]

Ras one of the realest dudes and best lyricists Ever

[@JohnDoe-pe7ok]

I'm from FLUSHING QUEENZ & DAT RASSCASSSAINATION WAZ NAS LEVEL BIG FAX 1

[@yvaw1994]

Every time i see Dizaster .i think of the time he punched Math Hoffa

[@gazziempirical5569]

Wow Ras was going off. Great pod.

[@tommyguy5277]

The GTX event was 🔥🔥 lush and Diz are going above and beyond right now

[@Bootyjoose2117]

Y’all need to listen to “Ras Kass - Threat of the Nature” this man predicted covid 19 in the 90s and gave a whole history lesson 🤣🔥🔥💯

[@conpapi]

Easily some of the best no jumper content right here.

[@aolkalid]

This podcast is slept on!

[@donnellm346]

Diz talking about what today's hip hop is now...I felt that.

[@petekayyceclosedduncan2077]

Dope interview with my favorite MC.....salute!

[@beachcity562]

Rj Payne and Ras kass album will be so dope!!!

[@SketeStevens]

It is actually quite funny hearing him tell the story about integrity in regards to producers and beats and paperwork. I manage a producer named Chuck Heat, who produced a bunch of records for Devin the Dude as well as Scarface, the luniz and so on. I spent some time with Rass once or twice in the studio and had ran into at a club, and gave him a beat CD. About 6 months later I heard his song that used our beat on a mix tape, although it was a mixtape it was for sale at Ameba Records with a bar code. They never called us for clearance or payment. In his defense he did try to credit the producer but spelled his name super wrong. Can't remember what the song was called but I think it might be Jungle something. I do remember that they awkwardly added "don't push me" grandmaster flash sample in the song although it did not go with the beat at all.

[@ActorsReal2Reel]

Yeah that’s life though, everyone screws everyone over in some way whether they meant to or not. No one’s innocent of doing some questionable things. Just gotta hope you run into people with more integrity and who mean well rather than straight up A-holes who wear sheeps clothing

[@mainygnac]

props to Lush & Diz for mentioning BlackThought when discussing top5 GOAT Lyricists...that Man been a MONSTER since the90s & it's scary to see him do nothing but become more iLLer on the🎤 as he ages

[@eastonclark]

Finally a battle rap podcast tho for real

[@vnclejed1971]

I grew up listening to Ras, Soul On Ice. Got to meet him in Seattle in ‘02 and smoked some swishers at the show, throwback lol, I asked him about the 4 Horsemen album, and he said it wasn’t gonna happen, label issues 😢

[@tnitty7456]

The HRSEmen album is out now on all platforms.

[@vnclejed1971]

@@tnitty7456 good looking

[@froggface73]

One of the best from the WEST COAST!!! 💪🏾

[@FranzED]

So many truth bombs in this episode 🔥🔥🔥

[@them3rkcr3w65]

RAS KASS🔥🔥🔥 4 HORSEMEN 🐎

[@se7enallah]

4 Horesmen was Slaughter House b4 Slaughter House

[@SundayVenom]

Lyricist for sure

[@Mugzyblac]

Interview with a vampire💥💥

[@danielharun5196]

Ultimate Tupac Playlist 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@danielharun5196]

De La Soul, Tribe Called Quest, The Roots 💯💯💯

[@_D3VOE_]

Your favorite rappers favorite rapper

[@origamibulldoser1618]

Kleptocracy... There's an interesting word. Super nice interview!

[@jamestierney3185]

Don't miss much of the podcasts on no jumper but I like where this is going get them lyricist on kurupt next ?

[@williamanderson5940]

Ras Kass he’s the GOAT…. Hardest to Ever do it!!!

[@tmat2024]

Nice interview. But I would love to hear about Western Hemsifear!

[@awoseawose]

This was great thank you

[@gpproductionz]

Great interview!

[@Mr-nz9wx]

Can’t wait for the next podcast interview of god tier

[@TheSelectajrich]

Planet Asia would most definitely be a dope guest

[@ActorsReal2Reel]

If you close your eyes and just listen you can hear Diz and lush talking hip hop with Dave Chapelle

[@mainygnac]

wow...absolutely amazing....i was on the toilet shittin' when i came across your comment...i literally stood up & gave U a standingOvation before i wiped my azz👏👏👏👏

[@JayTheRarest]

Ras Kass is a GOAT

[@killroy5035]

My man’s & dem! 🙌🏾💯💯💯

[@kyrosheel]

Never trust a guy who says "I'm not going to entertain [insert name here]" and then proceeds to go on a whole segment about him lol Dude's just mad Game knocked him out with a bottle for speaking on his kids

[@ajbimg]

Dope segment!

[@DAYTONASTREETZ]

Get math Hoffa on here

[@rafekatchadorian465]

yeah let em squash the beef

[@Condemnhummus]

Definately need this cause both sides dont deserve the hate

[@deanjohnston1460]

I had to skip to the Alchemist beat part, since I don't remember the full story. But I really appreciate the breakdown here from Kass!

[@orbitals5281]

No wonder I liked green lanterns beats more than alchemists. His rap Olympics on a voter selected topic with a camera on the artist writing the bars is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥