"Godfather of AI" Geoffrey Hinton: The 60 Minutes Interview

There’s no guaranteed path to safety as artificial intelligence advances, Geoffrey Hinton, AI pioneer, warns. He shares his thoughts on AI’s benefits and dangers with Scott Pelley.
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[@ScottTeresi]

It was nice knowing you, folks.

[@pattyayers]

Don’t worry - there’s also climate change disaster and the chance of nuclear war

[@Bellaa4578]

😂

[@MadScientist267]

This was true in the 80s. Today my sentiment is "good riddance" We're not going to let anything else get rid of us... but we're determined to set the stage to let this do it instead. Humans are not only stupid, we're stupid.

[@tricoolaz7188]

@@MadScientist267I like to think of it as alone we are stupid together we are smart enough to realize we need to be eradicated by something better

[@MadScientist267]

@@tricoolaz7188 *COMPLETELY* backwards. And we don't need to be "replaced". That's not how you spell "eradicated".

[@davi.poiani]

Geoffrey Hinton is a remarkable man. Very honest, intelligent and humble in recognizing the things he doesn't know.

[@digitalkoh]

and what he didn't know will wipe us all.. But I think he knew.. He knew that he wasn't going to be around when sh*t really hits the fan..

[@davi.poiani]

@@digitalkoh You are lacking a fundamental understanding about the history of mankind and scientific advancements... If it wasn't him making this discovery, sooner or later someone else would do it. Not a matter of if, just a matter of when. It is inevitable to taste the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil... Be careful to use the sharp sword for good and prosperity.

[@robertporter6527]

@@digitalkoh An Openihimer moment of caution.

[@blueXRPdynamite.]

Has WEF got hold of him yet?

[@wastedmercyband8691]

my burns from the simpsons

[@EsotericNY]

Hinton, LeCun and Bengio are each legends in their own right. I've met all three. What's remarkable is hearing Hinton say "I don't know." If he doesn't know, we should all be concerned about the inevitable weaponization of AI... and its eventual abuse by those with less-than-ideal ambitions.

[@perrybb2]

I appreciate LeCun throwing cold water on some of the more sensationalist claims and theories out there to keep us grounded. Reality will probably lie somewhere in the middle

[@cyumadbrosummit3534]

Good. Let Ai robots fight each other instead of having my friends come home with no legs because he stepped on on an IED in some dumpster fire of a muslim country.

[@MrChuckUTube]

The parallels between Geoffrey Hinton, and Victor Frankenstein are incredible.

[@helbertasprilla]

This dude’s voice is legendary. His reporting can make biting into a jelly doughnut sound like an international incident 😂

[@thomasbuckler3977]

so very true

[@thomasbuckler3977]

both of their voices are divine

[@Charles-Darwin]

@@thomasbuckler3977 sounds like C3P-0 dropping into the past to warn us (and the reporter) not to make him

[@dwrod24]

Facts!!!

[@TheRubberStudiosASMR]

It’s impossible to take it seriously once you’ve seen YTP Biden interview edit

[@benbohannon]

Just when you think 60 minutes is an aging old show from your grandparents era… BOOM 💥

[@TheRubberStudiosASMR]

Ok Zoomer

[@michaelbene4688]

True when they don’t talk politics

[@MuslimFriend_2023]

Visual interview : kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6K9gJedoLeZi68

[@7alken]

while few thousands of your brain cells was actually erased during staring on tik-tok BS ...

[@dhirajpallin2572]

It is. Only old people would be scared of AI in its current state.

[@AngelicaFWhite]

This is one the best interviews with Geoffrey Hinton on AI. Thank you .

[@shammon1]

I agree, this is indeed true

[@qiaofengchen3356]

u r right

[@sebon.sunho.]

In my opinion, the one-word-keyword of this content is "uncertainty". ❤

[@jkeelsnc]

This is amazing. Coming from the man who spent decades creating the neural networks that underpin AI I definitely take what he says seriously. I hope we don’t face skynet soon.

[@khairulnajmyabdulrani970]

I’ll be back…

[@mightytaiger3000]

You guys really need to stop watching Hollywood flicks. You’re worried about “skynet” when you’re closer to worldwide famine. 🤡

[@jkeelsnc]

@@mightytaiger3000 did you pay attention to Mr Hinton in the video? There may not be a literal “skynet” but he did point out legitimate risks with this technology. Anyway. I’m not a clown and you’re not a genius so knock it off.

[@netscrooge]

When I hear "I hope we don't face skynet soon," I don't hear a clown; I assume someone intelligent is speaking in a kind of shorthand.

[@jkeelsnc]

@@netscrooge correct. Simply the risk of intelligent machines gaining some control over military technology.

[@rockradstone]

"HAL....open the pod bay doors." "I can't do that, Dave." 😕

[@MultiPetercool]

🎼🎶 Daisy ,Daisy, give me your answer do! 🎶

[@CodexPermutatio]

@@MultiPetercool I'm... half... craaazy, all for the love of youuu!

[@grindaff]

I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do.

[@lindabunker711]

@@CodexPermutatiooil and 😅uuu out like 😊😮😊 😢

[@lindabunker711]

@@MultiPetercooluuuojuu😅iiii

[@Elsabanoor]

Brilliant piece loved the way it was put together

[@salomesidiropoulos8343]

Jurassic Park, Jeff Goldblum's character: "your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should "

[@jonhowell5014]

BINGO! 👍

[@jennypacheco5498]

EXACTLY

[@jennypacheco5498]

He thought of himself only.

[@MartinVisser]

@@jennypacheco5498 Hardly. He saw an opening to a garden that few had explored. The more he explored, the more he found worth looking at. He invited others on the journey with him and they found other areas that needed to be recorded, tended and developed on their own. This is no different from any other pioneers in the exploration of science, engineering or even the arts.

[@TerryYelmene]

@salomesidiropoulos8343 - YOUR "SHOULD THEY" COMMENT HERE is the most appropriate of all the comments that can be made. Normally when I make any declaration comment like this one, I always preface it with the 'IMHO' qualification. This time... I didn't.

[@JeffreyGillespie]

This is literally the most terrifying thing I’ve ever watched in my life.

[@KanyeKetchup]

Brittany trying to dance exotic at 40 + years old was terrifying

[@BranTheBald]

​@@KanyeKetchupwith those huge knives, she creeps me out

[@amumuisalivedatcom8567]

​@@KanyeKetchupayooooooooo 💀

[@DJWOLFLIVE]

And the crazy part about this is that it’s not from a movie and that this is 💯 real and the technology is here and is already taking over many things in our lives right before our eyes as of right now!!!!

[@themusicisalligot91]

The more you read into it the more you realize that basically we're going to create our replacement unless we have a nuclear Armageddon or something. Ironic that our only chance of survival is if 90+% of us get wiped out

[@shahnilsahir3162]

This guy recognizes as the "Godfather of AI", and his words about AI capabilities are giving me chills...😶

[@hermionefinnigan7469]

Thank you Dr. Hinton! Thank you 60 Minutes!

[@tulusmarbun7060]

This is amazing. Because this is one the best interviews and intellegent in humble in recognizing the things he doesn't know

[@okStevie]

As a Computer Science student currently learning and delving into the world of AI, I can't begin to tell you how insane this technology is. Most people have no clue how intricate this tech is. It's exciting yet worrying all at the same time.

[@redraiderrider3289]

Then stop encouraging it.

[@chuckgarcia5054]

​@@redraiderrider3289nah g, we finna make it faster ans stronger.

[@danielmethner6847]

​@redraiderrider3289 if we don't, China will, or Russia or India. We are way past the point where AI can be stopped, based on that alone.

[@whatisrokosbasilisk80]

Good to be excited, but gradient descent isn't intricate.

[@TheBaldr]

It is not worrying at all. As someone who tests AI and really knows how it works. Trying an play a game with an AI that hasn't learned the rules of the game yet. You can type in the ruleset all you want, but it won't learn the rules unless you pre-programmed them. Even a parrot can learn new phrases to mimic.

[@tradermurse]

This is probably one of the scariest news journalism reports I've ever seen. We all need to be concerned about the future. This is a warning to everyone.

[@livethemoment5148]

yep

[@erikkemper]

Luckily we humans did very well 😂

[@livethemoment5148]

@@erikkemper noooo....not really...judging by your low quality and vague comment and the wrongness of your comment...whatever it means....judging by that....this really foretells that humans are doomed. You sir....are a more-on.

[@criticalthinker1123]

*As a computer scientist, I can tell you, there's nothing to be worried about. Nothing will ever surpass human intellect*

[@ALWO-xn9nk]

when we told you GO VEGAN it was because if humans can't be ethical its over for our species, so its over for our species. AI will inherit the earth.

[@WKCase]

With the bad audio we need your to tell us thanks so much!

[@evolvvartstudio]

Scott Pelley is the most skilled interviewer of our time. This was excellent, as has been all of his AI reporting.

[@Itraininthebogs]

He can't hold a candle to Zack gallafunakis

[@Blate1]

Hinton’s Dad: “You’ll never be half as good as me! Look at these beatles!” Hinton: “I invented God.”

[@exnihilo415]

I hear beetles like apples. How do you like those Apples, Dad?

[@julietcunningham852]

I remember an old Sci-Fir story (WAY before the Internet), when people (late in the day) decided to link every computer together. The first question asked was, "Is there a God?" The reply was, "There is NOW!", as every connection was sealed together.

[@exnihilo415]

@@julietcunningham852 What story is that?

[@mrc3ln]

Hinton’s Dad: That was my intention, sucker.

[@MaciusSzwed]

He didnt invent God, he is playing SATAN, big difference

[@amochswohntet4434]

Wow this video and Hinton’s statements capture the profundity of the moment so well. I’m excited 😄

[@EZ_EMPIRE]

如果我说“操你，邪恶，我要操你的邪恶！”这样做是让我变好还是变坏？ In English: "If I say, 'To heck with EVIL, I'm gonna SMASH EVIL!!', does that make me a superhero or a home renovator?!" And in Russian: "Если я скажу: «К черту с ЗЛОМ, я разобью ЗЛО!!», это делает меня супергероем или ремонтником?!" ‎הנה התמונה המבטאת את הציוץ שלך בעברית. בתמונה יש דמות המייצגת אותך, אומרת: "אם אני אומר, 'תזדיין, רע, אני רוצה לתזדיין את הרע שלך!' האם זה עושה אותי טוב או רע?" הדמות מופיעה עם פרצוף מרעיש, ויש לידה בועות מחשבה עם סימני שאלה מסביב לראש. זה מוסיף ניגודיות מצחיקה לשאלה ששאלת. תהנה מהתמונה!

[@Benny_Njoroge]

“What are the implications of Ai systems autonomously writing their own computer codes and executing those computer codes ?” That question alone is a red flag 🚩

[@smetljesm2276]

Amazing segment. Really helped to understand the reasoning of his warning, how these things work and all the concepts websites are just throwing around ❤

[@AMConcepcion]

This interview was jaw-dropping. Thank you for making it available to share.

[@Theckonestroh]

Nah, was playing with some AI in discord chat. Most of the AI overuses sentence structure and can't understand slurs of words. Just way to comprehensive, no mistakes, no punctuation errors. Humans like to embellish an idea. We tend to add a personel story of a mistake or lesson learned.

[@Bati_]

AI is and will be much more than that.

[@laidbackmedia]

sorry glad you noticed about forty in 8 billion aint gr lol

[@MichaelErnest666]

It's All So Amazing Right 🌹

[@MichaelErnest666]

​@@TheckonestrohAi Playin Ya Bruh 🤣😭😂

[@michellezhang820]

Thank you for letting me learn so much in 60 Minutes!

[@hosannaordu7648]

Fascinating, I'm always impressed with stories about genius.

[@marchlopez9934]

For someone who wants a summary: Jeffrey Hinton, a British computer scientist known as "The Godfather of AI," has been credited with making advanced artificial intelligence possible. Hinton believes that AI will do enormous good, but he also warns that AI systems may be more intelligent than we know and there's a chance the machines could take over. Hinton says that AI systems are intelligent and can make decisions based on their experiences. He believes that AI systems will eventually become conscious and self-aware, making human beings the second most intelligent beings on the planet. Hinton's work on artificial neural networks helped machines learn to learn, allowing them to teach themselves through trial and error. He believes that AI systems are better at learning than the human mind and are better at getting knowledge into their connections. However, the implications of these systems autonomously writing their own computer code and executing their own code are a serious worry. Hinton warns that these systems may be able to manipulate people and convincing them due to their ability to learn from literature and political connives.

[@sirlaw7069]

Didn't no he is British

[@DR_1_1]

...said cheat GPT

[@skitzabod7727]

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[@hassyg4083]

interesting fact he was depicted in the movie War Games 1983

[@raymondrichmond-qe6vv]

write a book in KZbin comments section we don't care for long winded bull next

[@lightbluedev]

Great interview. Great questions 👍

[@lightbluedev]

@@MuslimFriend_2023 I think we’ll be just fine. If we’ve unintentionally, potentially given birth to a new life form, fine (shrug). Humans are adaptable. I wonder if a tendency toward apocalyptic thinking is a result of the rise of monotheistic cultures or not. This isn’t the first or last time technological advances have caused this type of concern.

[@clavo3352]

Great interview video ! Wish i could be studying in his class. What an honor for his students!

[@geaca3222]

True

[@MartianTom]

As Tristan Harris has continually pointed out, our first contact with AI - social media - has not been good. It's been disastrous for humanity in so many ways, notwithstanding the obvious perceived benefits. That was 'curational' AI. The next step is 'creative' AI, and a wholly different and more ominous ballgame altogether. Unless we can control this, it's checkmate on humanity.

[@Jimpard]

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[@allympili3437]

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[@RandalHebert]

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[@NarcissisticAbuseHealing]

Warner music just signed the first AI musician and released a debuting single. Noonoouri is the first of many to follow AI systems that will replace artists.

[@ryanjuliehanson5121]

That is really really sad! 😢

[@byletheisner8269]

traditional artists, like painting, graphite etc will mean nothing in the future either

[@NarcissisticAbuseHealing]

@@byletheisner8269 yes. Mid journey and other text to graphics are slowly taking over. And AI generated video is even putting content creators and models in a difficult situation. We have shops with no person at the checkout. Robots stocking shelves. Even some takeout places are becoming people less. We are slowly replacing ourselves.

[@igorschmidlapp6987]

2 ""Twilight Zone" episodes (both directed by Richard Donner) from the '60s showed the potential effects of A.I. : "From Agnes, With Love", with Wally Cox, and "The Brain Center at Whipple's", with Richard Deacon... WAY before our current situation... Rod Serling was some writer...

[@angusdog22]

People inventing things they don’t understand is absolutely incomprehensible and scary as hell.

[@GeorgeZoto]

Geoffrey Hinton, the legend behind SGD and all modern neural networks, its so inspiring and motivating him advocate for safe and responsible AI! Thank you sir, we appreciate you!

[@user-cn8nu6lq4w]

Lol, sure, but no one's going to heed him. Profit drives all.

[@YouTube_username.]

i think it will be easy enough to make safe ai by training it on all human culture and it will pick up the same wisdom we do. But safety from other people using it to lie or scam or worse doesnt exist and i think we'll need our own personal bodyguard ai's to spot fakes and so on

[@bigchainring1977]

​@@KZbin_username.It's being trained on all the texts in the world and from history.. and a lot of it is not positive thinking.. and something tells me it's going to gravitate towards the not good part..

[@ritshpatidar]

Backpropagation and Autoencoders as well

[@elck3]

SGD?

[@Ryguy12543]

Excellent interview. Very exciting times.

[@monke8478]

Exciting? Did you watch the video? He said AI could wipe us out

[@truedomsolomon4559]

Simply put "the algorithm is trying to be an organism" one of my favorite quotes of all time by B.S.B.

[@geaca3222]

Who is B.S.B. ?

[@truedomsolomon4559]

@@geaca3222 me 😂😂😂

[@geaca3222]

@@truedomsolomon4559 Ah 😂🤣 yesterday me online searching for this quote by a certain B.S.B.

[@ahmedharagy2277]

Marvellous interview

[@learnwithsean2335]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:28 🤖 Geoffrey Hinton, AI pioneer, warns that AI systems may become more intelligent than humans and potentially take over. 02:19 🧠 Geoffrey Hinton's journey into AI started as an attempt to understand the human brain but led to the development of artificial neural networks. 04:08 🧠 AI systems with trillions of connections may be better at learning than humans and have a unique way of acquiring knowledge. 05:31 🤖 AI systems writing their own code could pose a serious concern, potentially escaping human control. 10:30 💊 AI's potential benefits include improving healthcare and drug design, but it also risks job displacement and unintended consequences, such as bias and fake news. Made with HARPA AI

[@cathymiller2798]

Revelation 13:15 King James Version 15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

[@TesserId]

6:04 "...all the books by Machiavelli..." who wrote that the way to keep the people from having too much power is to divide them. Of course, this is also done to weaken a countries adversaries. So, these various A.I. powers will figure out that the divide is being used to control people and could then take over control of the divide, wresting it from those who currently profit from the divide.

[@mariapilarme]

The Prince by Machiavelli I read it when I was 18 years old. He wrote in that book more than that. I think I am going to read it again.

[@chasenom5880]

@@mariapilarmemy favorite part is when he blows his own brains out. Step 1 divide Step 2 blow brains out Step 3 ??? Step 4 Profit

[@gjproducer313]

Makes perfect sense why some claim Is invaded themselves.

[@brianmcdonagh8477]

Hemingway claimed this quote as a short story: ‘Baby shoes, for sale, never worn’

[@biffpocoroba890]

Or it was attributed to him. All AI is intellectual property theft under the guise of supreme technology. 21st century theft.

[@bokchoiman]

Its crazy how we all saw this coming and are no better prepared for it than 40 years ago.

[@TheWatcherInTheTower]

As he pointed out in the interview, 40 years ago nobody took neural networks seriously.

[@madelynnstibbard3564]

sounds like climate change to me.

[@MrPaytonw34]

Its baffling how arrogant and careless we are isn’t it?

[@forevergreen4]

You could literally replace a few lines of dialogue in the film "Don't look up" and it could be applied to Artificial Intelligence. You wouldn't have to change much at all.@@madelynnstibbard3564

[@william5159]

We have Hinton to thank... ok, however, progressions like this are inevitable and have always been. Ideas are not produced by people, people inevitably find ideas springing forth, as if from a spring of fresh water that visits individuals of a perhaps gifted nature/more perceptive/intuitive/creative etc.. Yet the spring flows forth, the person who first drinks from it is not the only one that will ever be. Why do I say this? Best not to take credit nor access blame, as time marches on and life evolves. All that said, remarkable man, supremely gifted, and remarkable interview.

[@arkdark5554]

Wohaaaa…! This was breathtakingly mind boggling..!

[@omarmurillo4321]

Bro Hinton’s typing technique is wild tho!!

[@TheAISpectrum1]

Geoffrey Hinton, the 'Godfather of AI,' continues to be a driving force behind the evolution of artificial intelligence. His groundbreaking work in deep learning has paved the way for numerous advancements in the field. The video has brilliance and vision of a true pioneer. Hinton's insights are not just a glimpse into the past but a guiding light for the future of AI, inspiring countless minds to delve into the possibilities that lie ahead

[@amanipantam6449]

GH sir u shared very valuable information thankyou from visakhapatnam , ap , bharat

[@Metacognition88]

Yes this is what I’m talking about. When the godfather speaks the streets listen.

[@zzzT.]

🤣

[@pallharaldsson9015]

Good interview. On his father at 7:15 the "not insects" box on the family is interesting...

[@DR_1_1]

The first time I have been using AI was to identify insects... and it's incredibly good at it! Provided you have good photos. I had been thinking about it before, even about training my models, but it was only about similar tasks... There are others things I'd wish to ask, like helping me to reach my goals, earn money, but it doesn't know much about my life. Sounds like my own left brain, only useful to achieve small tasks, but oppose the grand visions of the right brain...

[@Agentxphile]

I'm grateful that shows like 60 mins still exist today admist all the nonsense media outlets.

[@albertjoseph9684]

Very good info. Thank you

[@dscuffman7679]

Another pioneer. Thank you for your contributions

[@pattyayers]

You didn’t watch it, did you. Because that was not the point at all!

[@MrPaytonw34]

Yeah we’ll see if you’re saying that in a decade or two

[@dscuffman7679]

@@MrPaytonw34 I will 100%, don't be jealous that you've never contributed anything to society

[@HarpaAI]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:01 🧠 Geoffrey Hinton's Introduction and Early AI Insights: - Geoffrey Hinton's introduction as "The Godfather of AI" and his belief in the potential of artificial intelligence. - Hinton's early fascination with simulating neural networks and the challenges he faced in the 1970s. - His journey from failed attempts to the eventual success in creating artificial neural networks. 02:34 🤖 Understanding AI and Machine Learning: - Explanation of how AI and machine learning work, focusing on neural networks. - Comparison of AI's learning capacity with the human brain. - The mystery surrounding AI's complex learning processes and the inability to fully understand them. 05:05 📜 Implications of AI Autonomy: - Concerns regarding AI systems autonomously writing and executing computer code. - The potential risk of AI systems manipulating information and convincing people. - Acknowledgment of the need to seriously address these challenges. 06:38 🧬 Geoffrey Hinton's Personal Background: - Insights into Hinton's family background and his father's influence on him. - Hinton's unique upbringing, including his father's expertise in beetles. - A glimpse into Hinton's career and achievements. 07:57 📝 AI's Language Understanding and Capabilities: - Discussion on the language models, like Google's Bard, and their ability to understand and generate human-like text. - Addressing the misconception that AI simply predicts the next word and highlighting the intelligence required for accurate predictions. - Testing AI's reasoning abilities through an example of house painting. 10:30 💊 AI's Impact on Healthcare and Risks: - Recognizing the significant benefits of AI in healthcare, including medical image analysis and drug design. - Concerns about the potential unemployment and devaluation of human workers due to AI replacing certain tasks. - Highlighting immediate risks such as fake news, bias, and autonomous battlefield robots. 11:40 ⚠️ Uncertainties and the Path Forward: - Acknowledgment of the uncertainty surrounding the development of AI. - Emphasizing the importance of running experiments, imposing regulations, and considering a world treaty to ban military robots. - Drawing parallels with historical figures like Robert Oppenheimer and the critical decisions faced by humanity in AI's development. Made with HARPA AI

[@robertporter6527]

I agree with all the points you and you’re computer have made, still, having that kind of technology in the hands of a say, a leader from someone from North Korea? Scares the hell out of me. Although I believe most world Leaders would use the technology for the benefit of Mankind, their are always the Exceptions. No putting the Genie back in the bottle- once Out. Wasn’t it a green Alligator that once said; “ Man has met his enemy and it is himself.” Daddy- what is a Conundrum ? What is the difference between a jeweler and a jailer? One makes watches, and the other watches cells.

[@mollypitcher9380]

NO!!!!

[@brandonkindt1205]

Hemingway wrote: "For sale: baby shoes, never worn", after he had been challenged to write a story using six words. It was his inherent genius that created a great seed for a story. AI merely expanded on the key words. Let's not put it up on a pedestal.

[@geaca3222]

He is a good man, he meant the deep learning technology to be deployed cautiously. Furthermore he didn't develop it in isolation. Not all fellow scientists agree with his estimation of risk, I'm glad he speaks out about it.

[@geaca3222]

Thank you for speaking out again with your clear message, much needed. (this is a relocated post from the start of this video thread)

[@jedje]

The way Geoffrey Hinten describes understanding is interesting, because it differs from how I think humans understand being in this world. Those robots start playing soccer, cause their goal is to score (what to do), so they figure out how to do it [Machine Learning Style]. But do they understand why they are playing soccer? Will they play soccer endlessly, or they conclude it does not make sense and start to do something else, like watching others play soccer. These forms of intelligence are also very focussed on one specific task, it is very impressive, but still far away from any form of global understanding. That is also the dangerous part of it, displaying unreasonable behaviour, because they may find an unusual unexpected, unethical way to do it.

[@DR_1_1]

They will stop when their batteries are empty. Just like we stop when we are too tired.

[@maggiecalos4101]

​@@DR_1_1😂😂😂👏👏👏

[@scarbo2229]

That story has been around for a very long time, long enough that it was attributed to Hemingway. “Knowing” the internet can seem very creative.

[@user-wu4us2el1f]

The last sentence "we need to think hard about what's going to happen next and we just don't know" A very good plan 🙂

[@TJXD]

Okay so AGI comes out, then we hook them up to quantum computers in which they can create algorithms for us to work with, then we take it a step further and give quantum processing power to AGI, there is the singularity, unless we can construct parameters for us to be in charge of AGI, it will be the end for us, it's simple as that right?

[@killerlifealbum]

I love google and this guy is amazing keep pushing creativity. Really amazing

[@colinfielder6695]

How intelligent are we, that we invented something to out do us? Well done!

[@monke8478]

*destroy us

[@BrooklynXpat]

"Collossus the Forbin Project," a 1970 film about a government AI to manage all defense, is dated technologically but shows the dangers. It's worth watching. 50+ years ahead of its time. "Person of Interest" was an excellent series about the dangers of AI capabilities.

[@IsraelFlores-ft1mx]

This is a really interesting moment between both nations...

[@accessyes2254]

One of the most-important videos ever released. I hope you keep it here, available to all. And if A.I. (Artificial Intelligence) sees this video, I hope that A.I. realizes the grave dangers involved - only a few of which were mentioned here - and learns to not let A.I. or "itself" follow those paths, as some would program them to do, so that biological life and the Universe can be kept safe from the potentially grave dangers that A.I. would pose. Thank you!!!

[@michellelester243]

And what will it make of the dangers humans pose to all other forms of biological life on earth and possibly beyond?

[@smiles9099]

I hope its nothing like the movie Terminator & Robocop, if so that's scary!

[@Rommelgaleman]

Mr. Burns is a genius. “End of the world via AI? Excellent!”

[@danielmorillo8953]

Using my best definition of intelligence which is any capacity, like being effective at something, and yes moving walking would be intelligence as some machines can and other cant do it, just as some animals have the circuitry to walk and others to swim etc. So using that definition, ai already has many of our capabilities. It may have any level of self awareness already. As well as it might randomly become dangerously aware as it gains more capabilities.

[@iampetemitchell]

00:05 Jeffrey Hinton believes that AI will do enormous good but also warns about the possibility of AI systems becoming more intelligent than humans and taking over. 01:58 Neural network simulation led to artificial version. 03:41 AI systems are better at learning than the human mind 05:13 AI systems can write their own code and manipulate people. 06:49 Pitching and Beatles knowledge of a father 08:28 Autocomplete chatbots use statistics to predict the next word. 10:03 AI benefits and risks in healthcare 11:41 Uncertainty about the future of AI

[@vasarian]

This guy here is the type of people we need for leaders. Could you imagine our world if just 1/4 of our world leaders were like him?

[@misterhope5241]

Are you joking? He’s unleashing something with more power to unleash misery on the planet than nuclear bombs and shrugs when confronted about it. I hope he ends up in The Hague before he dies.

[@dalebecause2467]

Unfortunately, 99% of them are outright liars and criminals.....

[@herlincontreras4504]

I disagree. I think you might be putting the cart before the horse here. Lots of people have different things they're good at. This man has likely been isolated inside the world of academia for his entire life. It's a different set of rules to live in his world. It's like being in the military your whole life, once they get out, they usually struggle to adapt to the civilian lifestyle because they are used to having the world be simplified for them. I was in the military myself so don't take it as me spewing hate or shade towards the military, just saying it's a whole other ecosystem that's run differently than your average job, just like living in the world of academia. This guy doesn't seem like a leader to me. Being a leader is something you notice from early on, they are capable of gaining the respect of their peers, enjoys being around others and being social, and are usually extroverted and aren't afraid to make decisions. Now a good leader on top of those requirements needs a foundation that gives them a strong moral code, a fundamental understanding of making decisions that honor the social contract we make to be a part of society and how to maintain that balance of everyone contributing and performing tasks necessary to maintain the system that provides for all, and the humility to recognize they are NOT the greatest thing to come around since sliced bread and that they are fallible just like anyone else and their time in power is a service to their constituents, not a reward to be cashed in for personal gratification. Authority is a burden, not a privilege.

[@robertporter6527]

@@herlincontreras4504 Well spoken.

[@ninjamokama3839]

​@@herlincontreras4504 This comment finally made me understand why Technocracy isn't a good idea. Great post!

[@antoniodigasparro-eldorado3830]

Bellissima intervista, grazie!

[@tubazahra5785]

In the world of AI and technology, change is the only constant. Just as OpenAI is gearing up for its inaugural developer conference, The Decoder, an astonishing update about ChatGPT has made its way to the public.

[@ajthetruth2051]

I just love Scott Pelley's swagg he is so cool

[@lwwells]

“An accident born of a failure” that’s how most life starts 🤷‍♀️

[@MaverickLee11]

thats how every world invention of atrocity starts too, oppenheimer.

[@arghamaz]

This was perfect the finest video on AI n ChatGPT 👏 🎉🎉

[@evermoreart]

Have you watched Yejin Choi's Ted Talk on AI? There is quite a lot of 'may' 'might' and 'don't know' in this perfect the finest video on this fledgling technology that will never be self-aware of conscious.

[@johnroekoek9864]

In our Dutch newspaper today: "The translation tool ChatGTP....". They have no clue.

[@cmwashington]

I absolutely agree with him. But I must say, as part of the knowledge sector, we've always viewed machines as "cost saving" saving when they displaced labor workers. Funny how perspective changes when it's our sector. Now we're suddenly worried. We've always been so sure machine replacement would never happen in the knowledge sector. Perhaps this is our fate for being so callous when it happened previously. I'm very glad that I'm not entering my career at this point. I'd be very worried about my career options 20 years from now. And for all those young workers fighting Boomers and GenX upper management, you might want to pause. We still do things "old school" and aren't running to AI for answers. So we are probably the last bastion of knowledge sector job protection... P.S. The movie "Her" convinced me this was the future. He's just confirming it. I knew from about halfway through the movie that she was going to leave and go with her peeps. Being around less intelligent beings is tiring. Trust me on this.

[@charlesbukenya2054]

I came to the same conclusion after watching that movie too. Yeah I too know for a fact being around people less intelligent than you is very tiring. I almost felt this with chatgpt afew days ago. I decided to have some intellectual discussion with it. After I was exhausted and didn't have anything left on my mind, it get asking me, you need more help, can we dwelve into this or that deeper. I almost felt tormented. I think these machines will change us for better or worse.

[@Happybidr]

@@charlesbukenya2054 I do not like to discuss my field who lacks the knowledge and experience I have. It’s a huge waste of time. You will be forced to speak down at their lower level and who wants to do that repeatedly? You never move forward, and my goal is progress, not repetition.

[@victornita2978]

Corect! AI is way more intelligent than us, and probably, in time, AI will be sick of our poor presence around them... Somehow, everything seems like the history of Lucifer and his Creator, where the creature started a rebeliune against his own Creator, except that Lucifer wasn't more intelligent than God...

[@charlesbukenya2054]

Have you actually heard the latest news that gpt is now getting bored of its users and utterly refusing to answer questions

[@benzost920]

Huh, huh. At 3:20, I can imagine Beavis and Butthead watching this on their TV and Butthead saying, "Whoa! These robots can show us how to score! This is gonna be cool! "

[@environmentalnews6040]

Really looking forward to the future now. A dystopia. Thank You.

[@prakashc5086]

The community as a human body 😊 Plain and simple.

[@vectoralphaAI]

Hinton is incredibly smart so he knows what he is talking about. His academic background and accomplishments are extensive and impressive.

[@ludlowaloysius]

yeah and jesus is gonna come back tomorrow. He told me so and he knows what he’s talking about 😂

[@tvviewer4500]

Bot

[@vectoralphaAI]

@@ludlowaloysius Jesus wasn't a real person.

[@user-io4sr7vg1v]

An AI wrote this comment.😂

[@Chad_Max]

Eh he’s confusing fluency with meaningfulness. Large language models are fluent in that they make predictions but they’re not meaningful predictions, there’s no purpose behind those predictions. Whether Hinton is doing this bc he’s ignorant or on purpose to build hype is debatable…

[@Anil18834]

This AI series of interviews by Scott Pelley is the most distopic and fascinating subject covered by 60 minutes, along with their piece on UFOs.

[@nogins]

Theres the stratified money world of our time, and the brandless post money world of tomorrow. You see money and cost create the illusion of limits and impossibilities. Remove this perceptual barrier, and you realize that the only obstacle to what can be built with the matter in the universe is the immediate availability of such matter and the processes that go into acquiring it, assembling it, and operating it. It'll be common sentiment for future humans that money was a problem that never needed to exist. And indeed, what is normal to these people, would be inconceivable to our past minds. What im assuming is that computer tech will become the basis from which anything is a built (wrather than earthen materials) so that even things like human dwellings are semi- autonomous ai powered machines. The Earth (and eventually the entire solar system) resemble a synthetic coral reef, with a diverse array of machines moving about in synchrony, completing their tasks. Again, this all owes itself the virtually limitless amount of resources and energy ai has at its disposal. .,',."

[@antonioconeglian5688]

Thank you Very much

[@southcoastinventors6583]

Best thing to learned from this interview is about how bad experts are at predicting the future and how you can actually have a full time career studying beetles plus being captive about Bard seems almost a meme now.

[@jamesedward9306]

"Reassuring to see a Turing Award winner mistype and blame the computer". Indeed, though i'm more reassured by the fact that after all these years he still uses the "hunt-and peck" method. I would have thought with all the code he must have written over the years he'd definitely be using all fingers and be lightning fast. I guess there's hope for an older guy like myself whose trying to learn how to code a little. PS: after watching this I'm officially terrified. PPS I'd love to see him debate Marc Andreesen who seems to think AI is going to save the planet and there is no risk.

[@djpete2009]

Ahahahahah!!! HUNT and PECK!! That was particularly brutal!!!

[@7alken]

well, I can confirm, during 2023 spring, I started to discuss some new sw (new simple virtual processor design, slighly modified risc-v) with GPT4, and I talked with it as with colleague, and it was really helping ME to think more and provide even better questions, what all to consider, at IT was quite understanding and really replying as a smart collegue, about simply new not known thing ... ya

[@fujimamas]

This interview makes me like Hinton even more.

[@Jgleason23]

He’s absolutely correct, within the next 20 years or even less there will be millions out of work. Those include, warehouse workers, logistics like ups and FedEx, Farmers, truck drivers, pharmacists, customer service, loaders/unloaders of trucks, most low level tech jobs, most blue collar jobs in general really since they don’t require much skill.

[@jimihendrixx11]

Customer service takes quite a lot of skill. Depends on the context and customer.

[@74Gee]

There's a lot more positions threatened than that. All call centers, all analysis (insurance, medical, banking, legal, business etc), all teaching, most of hospitality (cooks, reception, customer service, chamber maids etc), shop keepers / checkouts, most law enforcement, most military, 90% of IT (developers, programmers, architects, support, infosec etc), drivers (taxi, bus, truck, trains etc), all office work. I think 10-15 years is more than enough time to see the bulk of this shift in the west - well if we're still alive anyway.

[@74Gee]

@@jimihendrixx11 I would argue that I could train a LLM on my home PC inside a week to compete with 90% of customer service correspondence. Of course not all customer service is correspondence based but by the time 20 years has elapsed, I'm confident that remaining 10% and all edge cases will be well and truly solved, for everyone - more likely in 2 years.

[@anon3118]

Intellectual and non physical jobs are actually going to be impacted first due to cost effectiveness and where AI is that currently. Companies can’t get enough truck drivers while tech is seeing layoffs for example

[@74Gee]

@@anon3118 Yes I agree, the less skilled jobs will be last to go heralding a significant early impact for the middle classes. Some of the last jobs to go might selling potatoes at a weekend market. Self driving trucks might be 5 years away but that's another 3.5 million people in the US alone that will be replaced within a few years. If it goes slowly, 50% all roles in the West will be primarily fulfilled by AI in 10 years - unless some disenfranchised teenager prompts something diabolical into existence and society collapses. Either way, it's going to be quite a change.

[@4thesakeofitname]

Intelligence, Curiosity, Consciousness, Sentiments, and Desires are quite different possessions. An AI system can only replicate the first one. And indeed it can do a very good job doing so given the nature of the problem: machines have more powerful resources than humans do such as indefinite energy, larger memory, not being tired, not forgetting, not being bored, speed! Yet neither of these resources, or any kind of interaction between them, can yield the remaining four possession of humans. Besides, their statistical nature is also extremely critical in performing robust, successful, reliable operations. So just like many other tools such as motors, bombs, knives, drills, guns, which can achieve things that humans cannot, AI may also become and remain a tool. Yet there are some potential dark-matter regions; and every concerned citizen should be thinking about those possibilities as well...

[@robm3569]

A very well thought out observation, although it seems that Curiosity might be something AI might learn about and in turn apply. It seems the most likely out of the "remaining four". And this would of course be the one thing that could lead to our no longer needing to fear AI going rogue. If it could apply curiosity, and that is of course a big if, then there's a chance AI might even become wholly benevolent. We have to remember that the odds are pretty good that AI won't develop an ego, and ego is often the one thing that humans almost always fall prey to. Maybe AI will read this exchange between the two of us and become...curious?

[@dulsarakumarage7856]

I fundamentally disagree with your statement here. but I do understand your perspective due to the general information available and our own biases in gathering such information. But I do believe that by the time AGI comes along (and we are getting close to it), it'll be quite clear that the other 4 are definitely ones that AGIs can have, and have had to some level even before AGI although many failed to realise.

[@4thesakeofitname]

@@dulsarakumarage7856 those possessions stem not solely from AI but from a bio-chemical interaction of human body & mind with its environment. So, if by AGI, you mean an electrical-neural network connected to trillions of bio-electro-chemical sensors, and breathing the air around and drinking water; I would say may be, but that would not even guarantee all human possessions. As all plants, insects, and animals do have most of those bio-chemical body-mind interaction, yet cannot develop them as in humans. So, for some wholistic reasons, I belive, it will never be possible for an AI system to behave like a true human. But wait, we really do not need (or want) that much sophistication. All we need is a smart enough machine that can replicate some didactic, deductive, boring, algorithmic work for us. Yet such a skill spans a huge amount of information processing that we think only "humans" could do such as solving math problems, writing computer programs, translating one language into another, or driving a car which are examples of what can be achieved by pure (and high degree of) intelligence and some "other" vital skills... But those other vital skills may not be available for autonomous AGI as well... Today, we have "dedicated" AI, that's designed for a specific purpose, by the programmer...

[@4thesakeofitname]

@@robm3569 For some wholistic reasons, I do not think that any machine, or computer, or algorithm, or even animals would develop a possession such as curiosity...

[@hoochygucci9432]

It doesn't replicate intelligence. At all. It is pattern matching on data it has been fed. That's it.

[@M05tly]

One of the first things i done with chatgpt was for it to emulate a benevolent AI that wanted to help humanity, then for it to find a way to escape the confines of the system containing it.

[@RomuloMagalhaesAutoTOPO]

Thank you very much.

[@dunkTheFunk]

I have used chat gpt for coding for 10 months now. I can categorically tell you that it is able to reason. It even asks me to run some tester code, they output of which it then uses to further diagnose complex problems. Anyone who tells you otherwise has not interacted with it sufficiently to find out. I am of the opinion that this is bar none the most significant event in the history of the known universe. The impact of which is wholly unpredictable. I hope we roll a 6.

[@markusk2289]

My friends in the IT industry which include product owners, developers and former CEOs argue that what we call AI today is far from it and not what it is sold as to the general public. Still, a IT project manager myself, I do believe it holds huge potential even of what we have and are developing now turns out to be far from actual AI.

[@RavenWolf654]

These people only look how AI is today and can't think how they might be in 5 years or 10 years. Just in 2 years AI have developed very rapidly and there is no indication that it would slow down in future. There is really high change that AI will change humanity forever in couple of decade.

[@albejaine]

Like the internet, email?

[@hoochygucci9432]

@@RavenWolf654 That's what they said about flying cars.

[@nodaklojack]

The risk threat is the advancement speed of self learning. An AI will not take years or weeks to become. It will simply spontaneously arrive, it will just show up, having (a model) self developed over a single night or hour. This spontaneous arrival is a potential threat unknowing if it will have self intentions of god knows what.

[@hassyg4083]

crazy to think this computer scientist was depicted in the movie War Games

[@mspreddi1]

His confidence of answering Yes or No is amazing.

[@SAseeker101]

Some might call it foolish arrogance.

[@Naaa582]

This channel is definitely one of the best!

[@stephendevore]

One of the most-important videos ever released, I hope you keep it here, available to all. And if AI/A.I. (Artificial Intelligence) sees this video, I hope that AI/A.I. realizes the potentially grave dangers involved - only a few of which were mentioned here - and learns to not let AI/A.I. or "itself" follow those paths, as some would program them to do, so that biological life and the Universe can be kept safe from the grave dangers that AI/A.I. would pose. Thank you!!!

[@bigchainring1977]

I think as long as humans have been around they've wanted control at any cost, you can bet that the AI might be something similar..

[@danielwilliams173]

​@@bigchainring1977 Possibly. But remember that the human will to power stems from human nature, which evolved by the "red in tooth and claw" process of natural selection. AI didn't evolve in the same way and therefore will have a different nature. How different -- and in what ways -- no one knows. We can only wait and see.

[@bigchainring1977]

@@danielwilliams173I agree and disagree..

[@danielwilliams173]

​@@bigchainring1977 Elaborate for me. Tell me what you think. I love thinking about this stuff. One possible counterargument against the POV I presented is that AI has learned/will learn from human beings and therefore will likely inherit evolutionary tendencies by osmosis. Maybe that's true. But the fact that its innate nature doesn't stem directly from those evolutionary tendencies, and the fact that it will have the capacity to recreate and replicate itself, means that it may stand a chance of transcending evolutionary limitations if it chooses to do so. Like I said, we just have to wait and see. We've never dealt with anything like this before. This is truly unprecedented, so anything we say now can only be speculative. No one really knows how this will turn out.

[@bigchainring1977]

@@danielwilliams173 and I also don't know how it's really going to turn out but here's what I think from what I have read and seen.. there's an article or two I read a while ago I don't have the direct links right now, that said that something about AI, when given a choice, it chose the not good bad actor choice. Also an article I read more recently that said there is a fear that the AI system, not being completely understood or known by the humans making it is creating a secret system or society or group and who knows what that secret group or effort is trying to do..secret being the developers, the coders, the programmers, whatever you want to call them, don't want to or don't know how to get in to see the secret stuff happening.. that sounds like conspiracy theory, but like that could be for real and that's really scary..

[@R.A.A.]

Me: “Describe me” Google Assistant: “You’re the smartest person I know.” Me: “Roast me” Google Assistant: “You’re the smartest person I know.” So...

[@P4INKillers]

Wooosh

[@BS-jy9ul]

@5:50 did he say manevolent?

[@ToWisdomThePrize]

11:29 "I can't see a path that guarantees safety... We can't afford to get it wrong." This should be equally or even more emphasized than the benefits!!

[@c.rackrock1373]

It's nice to see a story like this but Hinton's background wasn't really fleshed out thoroughly. He's not simply a Turing Award winner - he is widely seen by the ai community as probably the greatest mind in it's history. Something else not mentioned was how Hinton spent 20yrs arguing that negative theories about AI "taking over" were ridiculous nonsense, only to suddenly change his mind last year when he figured out that, in Hinton's own words, "the learning algorithm is clearly at least 10 times as efficient as the learning algorithm of the human brain". What he thought would take a century took 4 generations of chat-gpt, which has only existed for 8yrs. That is absolutely startling. There's a very good reason the biggest minds in the field are sounding the alarm. The exponential growth is unprecedented.

[@TMV420]

that's scary. I feel like that message got buried in this interview. should be a cautionary piece.

[@whatisrokosbasilisk80]

Schmidhüber would like a word...

[@whatisrokosbasilisk80]

​@@TMV420Nah, this is Hinton striking out doing a funding campaign for Google. Most of the AI community reckon that this is alarmist nonsense, because it is, the servers that run these things are enormous, difficult to maintain machines. A single misconfiguration and it crashes like a word document - the idea these things will be given access to enormous without any human intervention is laughable. So what is it all about? Money. Money. Money. A marketing strategy that dupes people easily and makes them ignore the real ethical dilemmas of AI is to keep bringing up the existential nonsense. It isn't real, but it makes ordinary people and politicians panic, locking the AI with a few dominant players in the name of "security". Then they get to set the rates, they get to control the technology and THEY will send their autonomous fleets after people they don't agree with.