How efficient is the Hyundai Ioniq Electric at (UK) motorway driving?

In this video, I look at the motorway/highway driving efficiency of the Hyundai Ioniq Electric. The Ioniq is one of the most efficient electric vehicles available. However EVs are less efficient at motorway speeds due to the wind resistance and no slowing down, so now regenerative braking to recoup energy back.
Today I had a trip to do which typically takes 3 hours and it's all on motorway and dual carriage ways. I had the climate control on and drove normally at the maximum speed the road allowed, yet I still managed to average 5.4 mpkWh! These Ioniqs are incredibly efficient EVs. At that average, the range from the 38kWh model is 205 miles. Of course, you're not limited to that range as you have DC rapid charging for a quick top up. But that is something that I almost never require.
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Timestamps
00:00 Why EVs are least efficient at speed
02:14 Ioniq efficiency
03:20 Range EV vs ICE
05:00 Driving speed
05:34 EV charging at M25 Cobham services
06:23 Drive back
08:03 The result
10:21 Ioniq 38kWh range
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[@davidnorman5907]

Hyundai should start making these cars again!!

[@youtubesque]

yes ioniq 1 is the best

[@MrDuncl]

Their idea was to trying and beat the Toyota Prius. Interesting that there is a new Prius out. Will Hyundai copy that or will Toyota make a fully electric Prius ?

[@techgeek2994]

i get same efficiency with ioniq 5 it is very efficient car, i dont know how much is it in miles but it spends 12kwh per 100km best car i ever had@@youtubesque

[@herwigs5605]

@@techgeek2994how? The Ioniq 5 is not really known to be economical.

[@techgeek2994]

@@herwigs5605 you have video on my channel. Country side consumption is low same like tesla model 3

[@richardhaywoodh]

Using regen is less efficient than not using the energy in the first place, so constant speed driving (obviously not at higher speeds) is more efficient than stop start with regen. The efficiency of most Hyundai and KIA EV which tend to be legacy ICE vehicles is truly amazing. Our KONA 38kWh facelift regularly offers us over 215 miles range over 35 more than a ZOE 40kWh. Yesterday we got 6.51mi/kWh on a 40 mile mostly motorway journey in the evening

[@rupertwilson5928]

There's a reason why they call the Ioniq the #WindKnife. It's a shame they are discontinued. Hopefully they'll be a fair few around in the second hand market for many years to come.

[@edwnorris]

I've just bought a 2020 used. After over 6 years in a 2017 VW e golf, and a lifetime average of 5.5 mi per kWh, I'm figuring I'll be closer to 6 in this car. And that's with 30% of my miles on the highway doing trips. 45 PSI tire pressure helps. I wonder what I could do in an Ioniq 6.

[@Bin-The-L-Plates]

I’m a driving instructor and I’ve clocked up 50,000 mile in my Ioniq Premium SE 38kWh and it’s an amazing car, perfect for my job and so easy for pupils to learn in as well as being a great family run around. Biggest problem is what do I replace it with when it will inevitably need changing, hopefully not for at least another 100,000 miles.

[@GoGreenAutos]

Do your students use Auto Hold? Interested to know if such technologies to help drivers are being allowed when learning. My step daughter is learning now in a Zoe and she didn't know what it was.

[@Bin-The-L-Plates]

@@GoGreenAutos Good question …. I explain all the safety features and driver aids to my students and for the vast majority they prefer not to use them. The majority of my students have SEN, so anything that ‘complicates’ matters can be more of hindrance than a help. If they’re confident and comfortable using them and they don’t have a detrimental effect in their driving then I encourage them to use the car features. As for Auto Hold…. I think there is a major design flaw that Hyundai need to fix. It’s an ok feature and some of my pupils use it, but if you want to reverse it still remains active and the car doesn’t move, so to move backwards you either have to switch it off or accelerate. Obviously accelerating instead of letting the car creep backwards using the foot brake for control could be unsafe, and switching it off every time is a pain. Simple remedy would have been to auto deactivate it as soon as reverse is engage.

[@GoGreenAutos]

@@Bin-The-L-Plates Yes auto hold should be turned off for any slow speed manoeuvres - just as in any car. I don't think the Ioniq works any different to any other. In an EV, what do you teach students to do when sitting at lights or in a queue....hold on the brakes in drive, or select neutral, handbrake etc?

[@Bin-The-L-Plates]

@@GoGreenAutos Depends…… Depends on how long they predict they’re going to be waiting for, although holding on the foot brake is fine, at night time it’s preferred to get the brake lights ‘switched’ off. If it’s likely to be a while then Park is ok, handbrake as well is preferable, and of course in the Ioniq the handbrake auto disengages so it an easy move off. An often over looked feature of an EV is there’s no need to cycle through reverse to get to drive like in a traditional gearbox as they generally use a switch rather than the traditional stick.

[@judebrown4103]

​@@Bin-The-L-Platesoh my goodness I'm learning a lot here today...only been driving 48 years, Routemasters too! Never had a posh enough car for Auto Hold and did not know it was that causing the lack of "creep" in reverse...thought it was an ev thing, well I never, thanks to you and Matt. I shall relish my ability to park by touch again and not worry about careering into any posts! Cheers chaps👍😄

[@StephenLyons1984]

this just blows my mind lol this is the way cars need to go, rather than bigger bigger batteries

[@GoGreenAutos]

Yes absolutely. Smaller batteries means cheaper cars. If you can charge at home, 200 miles is plenty for the majority of UK drivers. The problem is that the new EV driver doesn't realise this.

[@StephenLyons1984]

@@GoGreenAutos the Zoe does a lot of my journeys. Doesn't do it all without stopping to charge. But northern Ireland is a small country. 90miles across really. But people work I only once to fill up once

[@judebrown4103]

​@@GoGreenAutosthey should all watch your videos as research before buying, like I did Matt! You really saved me falling into the "I need range because I can't charge at home" trap. Even though we had to buy at peak prices in the end you still saved us a fortune!👍😂😜

[@130rapid]

His Majesty Ioniq is sitting on the Throne of Efficiency still. :)

[@GoGreenAutos]

Yes it is. A video in a few weeks time will be called "The Efficiency King" as I've just done a test of how good it is if you put a bit more effort into driving efficiently.

[@jpmhin6422]

The old platform is more efficient than the new one. I do not understand why the same path has not been followed instead of looking for supercars

[@Lewis_Standing]

Did they sell as much as they wanted? Do they think they'll sell more volume/ make more profit from an ionic 6?

[@FFVoyager]

My guess would be that battery 'size' is seen as important to buyers because few testers ever mention efficiency.

[@benellis7427]

​@@FFVoyagerI agree and for some reason the WLTP range figure seems pessimistic whereas for most cars it's an optimistic figure that you will never reach.

[@GoGreenAutos]

Yes exactly. Look at the Kona. The smaller battery model didn't sell. Yet, in the UK that would suite most buyers just fine.

[@MrDuncl]

@@FFVoyager With a global manufacturer like Hyundai it makes you wonder which market they start out targeting. I was amazed that American Doug DeMuro started talking about fuel efficiency when reviewing the new Honda Accord. While I like his reviews normally he is just obsessed with Horsepower.

[@royd63uk]

My Hyundai Kona EV over the last 500 miles mostly motorway (65-70mph where possible) but some urban has been getting 5 miles per kilowatt hour, Hyundai have just nailed efficiency. Keep up the very useful videos.

[@catalinomocea6986]

Absolutely love the car and I am looking to buy one again but it doesn't show you the real gps speed. If I remember right at 70mph (what the car shows you) you are actually doing around 65 to 66mph gps speed. I know it's not going to be a massive difference but that explains why you get such a great miles/Kwh consumption. Love your videos! Can't wait to see an update on the coolant problem! 👍

[@dr.deborahkatharinestevens318]

Another super vid., thanks Matt.👍 The clamour for greater brochure range in newer E.V's, partly to counter the endless negative media slant, has led to needlessly heavier and heavier batteries for the needs of most drivers; requiring bigger wheels/tyres/brakes etc...and efficiency plummets! I read-up well and watched Björn's vids. before I bought my first Ioniq 28; and learned about the E.V triangle: "efficiency - range matched to your needs - weight".....I'm on an Ioniq 38 now. Love `em💖

[@GoGreenAutos]

I've got a video coming up in a few weeks time about the maximum efficiency of these if you put a bit more of an effort in. Its amazing how this small battery EV can get a range better than others with a pack of nearly twice the size (and more than twice the cost).

[@iantaylor1172]

@@GoGreenAutos it's a pity i can't post up photos of my figures I achieve. Would back up your next vid on efficiency when trying.

[@benellis7427]

These cars really are great. There is some kind of magic how efficient they are. My predicted range on a full charge this time of year is anywhere from 210-230. I think the only reasons this is discontinued is because 1. Regardless of range a small battery seems like a negative to most even if it does perform more like 50kwh battery. 2. Its not a pretend SUV so it doesnt appeal to the masses. The only strange thing I have found with this car is the noise at low speeds with the windows down.... electric crickets! (If you hear it you will understand). I assume everyone has the same. Another great video 👍 thank you.

[@Nikoo033]

No weird noise with the 28kWh Ioniq. 👍🏻

[@benellis7427]

@@Nikoo033 Sounds odd but how old are you? I have a feeling only some can hear it depending on hearing. I've also noticed it in review videos.

[@thedreamfactory6964]

Interesting video! It just proves i made a good choice buying my ev last week. My battery is double this capacity and i average this mileage in daily driving on highway with ease.

[@peterkelly1406]

We have one in Australia ... agree totally ... great efficiency and we live in the bush , off the power grid and mainly charge from our minimal solar system ...

[@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270]

Thanks Matt, interesting as ever and very good of Mrs. Go Green to lend you her car. 😊. Living in France I use kWh/100 km but I think it works out at 11.5kWh/100 km which I do see sometimes on the Kia e-Niro but only local driving in the summer. On Sunday we did a run to Limoges airport, round trip is 220 km, so just a bit further than you did. Only 60 km of it is dual carriageway, the rest is smooth, mostly straight single carriageway but it was a scorching hot day (33c) so air con was running hard. We got 13.5 kWh/100 km, so about 4.6 miles/kWh. Not as good as the Ioniq but not bad for a 'blob' like the e-NIro

[@davidadams5116]

I have the exact same car. Fully charged the other day gave a range of 219 miles. I only do about a 100 miles a week in it so i use the 3 pin plug. I have a fixed deal with octopus for 26p per Kw, i dont want a smart meter you see. Plus the £1000 outlay for a home charger I would never recoup. About once every couple of months i let it get down to 20% or less and then give it a rapid charge to around 90%. Not keen on paying 79p per Kw though, but its only 6 or 7 times a year. Love this car.

[@alexb2612]

I always charge on the granny charger at home, sometimes use a 7kw charger that is free at the supermarket. I wouldn't worry about using the rapid charger, if anything the granny charger charging to the same amount as the rapid charger would will be better for your battery.

[@stormchaser8576]

For those that don't know, if you hold the drive mode button for 3 seconds, it goes into Eco Plus mode. It turns off climate control and a few other things, but definitely the most efficient.

[@johnairs2735]

It was most interesting to see all the fast chargers were in use at the motorway services you stopped at. Even on a relatively quiet Sunday it can prove difficult to recharge. I know you didn't need to charge but sooner or later every EV owner will meet this problem. I drive a hybrid cat and 50 to 75 percent of the time the engine is off and I'm in EV mode so I am reducing my fuel consumption. I hope my next car will be a full EV so I can drive an even more efficient vehicle than my current one. I not that the current Ionic EVs have bigger batteries so their range will be even better than your car, assuming similar efficiency. Thanks for the interesting and informative video.

[@Nikoo033]

Gridserve are upgrading their chargers and creating more and more charging hubs with up to 14 stalls (28 connectors). Been at a few already, they’re a wonder to use. BP pulse hubs are great too. If you use the ABRP app set up to only use charging stations with at least 4 stalls (so up to 8 connectors) for your stops or your EV has an on-board system that can do this sort of thing, then you won’t encounter this problem of overcrowded stations. I’d sell the hybrid if I were you before they’re worth not much. Taxis are buying them to continue to drive in LEZ and ULEZ in towns.

[@GoGreenAutos]

Sunday is not a quiet day on the M25. As you can see from the video, the motorway was stacked up! The problem with the M25 is a lack of services and that has always been the case and an issue for all drivers. A few times now, I've not been able to get into Cobham services because of the queues for the petrol station at this site! But yes at some motorway services, there can be a wait for chargers. But that is changing as new 'hubs' are being rolled out and they're going from 2 or 3 chargers to 12 or more. I've done videos on the channel from some and another video this Wednesday to show a motorway services that has received this upgrade. The UK network is growing rapidly. 2,000 new chargers last month alone. A 30% increase last year alone. Now 26,805 charging locations within the UK with 73,000 charging plugs. This keeps rising and will continue of course. There will be some places where it's lacking and busy, but its improving and hopefully the rate of charging infrastructure installations will match or succeed the rate of EV sales. I've been driving an EV for over 7 years now and I very rarely use public chargers and for the people who can charge at home, that will always be the case. Its cheaper and more convenient to charge at home while you sleep.

[@djtaylorutube]

I'm happy if i can get near 4 miles per kWh in our Model Y. This is awesome, I want one too :)

[@mitman2011]

We run what i frel is an almost perfect 2 ev car household with a 28kWh ioniq that I use for my 40 mile commute each day and a model y LR for my wife's shorter commute and any family trips or longer journeys. Most of the miles pile up on the ioniq which is better for efficiency and cheaper tyres.

[@mikeschap1]

Just bought my first electric car, Hyundai Ioniq 2020. I’m finding all the videos extremely informative and useful, thank you. Quick question, when on the motorway & dual carriageway did you use the cruise control or was it all on the pedal. Regards Michael

[@GoGreenAutos]

I almost never use cruise control. I find I can drive more efficient too as you can take advantage of gradients.

[@tomstewart28]

Can you do a video of the vehicle moving at pressing of the camera button to show rear view showing how it looks clarity and if it works , thanks

[@chilam6227]

Great video how much can these be picked up for nowadays!

[@GoGreenAutos]

About £15K. Look in Autotrader.

[@Madonsteamrailways]

I purchased the lease on my first electric vehicle in 2020. She’s a Renault Zoe, very efficient, very comfortable and reliable. Which is the most important thing for me? The ability to park in my local town without causing an accident. I’ve seen a family vehicle crash on departing from a space. And when I say a family vehicle, I mean a Suzuki estate car.

[@alloam]

Thanks for another great video. We took our 38kWh version up to Orkney and Shetland this summer and had great economy all the way - made it effortless. One issue that I really noticed, however, particularly driving back to Aberdeen from Scrabster/John O'Groats at night was that I have this really irritating (verging on dangerous) gap in the spread of lights between the dipped beam and the main beam. Have you noticed this on yours? It is on the right hand (driver's side) and coincides exactly where you want to be looking on a right hand bend on a country road, leaving that in darkness, but with all the trees/bushes above the road illuminated. It feels like the main beam is misalligned but I can't see how you could adjust only that and not the dipped beam too, which is fine. Any thoughts? Or is this just a quirk of the LED design?

[@GoGreenAutos]

I've not driven the 38kWh at night much yet. I will have a try.

[@maxdreamcreator]

I have noticed the same slight gap between low and high beam on mine while in full beam. But I can't say I found it being a problem. It's still light years better than my halogen bulbs on my previous 2007 vw passat lol 😂!

[@FFVoyager]

I could have done that trip in my 28 without charging too! It would be interesting to compare the two on the same trip. Check out 'Essai conso Hyundai Ioniq 38 : mieux que la 28 ?' by La Chaine EV on KZbin - they drove the two together in town, open roads and autoroute and the 28 was consistently more efficient than the 38. (The 28 was between 7% on the Autoroute and 14% more efficient in town driving)

[@Nikoo033]

With a Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh, you wouldn’t want to do 124 miles of pure motorway without charging as you’d reach 7-8% of battery and that would be risky if the area you’d reach had few or no functioning chargers. Personally, I wouldn’t do it 😅. Maximum I have done is 118 miles of motorway straight and reached 12%, already with warnings etc 🙈 I tend to not go below 15%.

[@FFVoyager]

@@Nikoo033 depends - I've got home on single a figure % more than a few times. (I think 4% was the lowest - before I saw Bjorn show that 0% really is 0!)

[@Nikoo033]

@@FFVoyager lowest I did was 7% and it was not enjoyable as the torque was already reduced and it’s a bit scary if you don’t know whether you’re going to reach you destination or not 😅. And given the chargers density in the UK, there’s really no need to go that low, even with the Ioniq 28kWh (small battery).

[@billyray323]

I want one 👍

[@frankelf3151]

126 miles in 3 hours is averaging just over 40mph but that's usual for driving in UK traffic and road works. You can't really average 60-70 mph.

[@Nikoo033]

On A roads/dual carriage ways you can reach 50mph on average. Motorway, if you drive on the middle or right lane and depending on the time of day and the part of the country, you can reach 65mph on average. But yeah, 50-55 mph is more common.

[@iantaylor1172]

My best is still 8 miles/kwh on my b road commute. Will be interesting to see how the kona 64 manages efficiently. Same commute so can be direct comparison. Obviously a motorway journey will be worse.

[@GoGreenAutos]

I have a max efficiency video coming in a few weeks where I drove for over two hours and tried to drive efficiently. I was surprised at what you can get from the Ioniq, without driving slowly too.

[@royd63uk]

I have the Kona 64kWh and it averages 4.9 -5 miles per kilowatt hour in varied driving. It too is very efficient

[@MrTedJourney]

Hi I saw briefly at the beginning you have charge points mounted to what looks like a wooden post! I always assumed installers wanted a more permanent structure?

[@GoGreenAutos]

Oh it is permanent. It's a 6" square gate post, sunk deeply into the ground and treated and sleeved so it wont rot.

[@dawarelahi8122]

Hi. I’m thinking to switch to an ev and want a car within 12-14k budget. Would you recommend hyundai ionic 38kwh or MG ZS ev? I have seen a couple of both cars available in this range but most MGs have less mileage.

[@GoGreenAutos]

Both excellent EVs, but the Ioniq is better quality, more tech, safety equipment too. Plus its extremely efficient and possible to get up to 250 miles in the summer. Video on that coming soon.

[@Aligndude]

This is why I picked a model 3 over polestar 2, purely for the charging network, I'd of had the polestar, but it's just the public networks. I wonder how long it will take for the networks to catch up with the surge in EV purchases.

[@Brian-om2hh]

In the case of Gridserve specifically, I'd have thought 2 to 3 years. Gridserve charging hubs all have 350kw ultra rapid chargers, and their network is to be mostly based on Britain's major road routes. So by then at least, Tesla will probably no longer retain their network advantage to the degree they do now....

[@rupertwilson5928]

Most of the delays in rolling out new EVSEs or upgrading existing sites are caused by the DNOs. We need to push our MPs and the Govt to make changes to the planning laws to speed things up.

[@Nikoo033]

Honestly, if you plan your stops well by targeting charging stations with a minimum number of chargers, you wouldn’t encounter any queue. I haven’t.

[@TH3G4M3SM4N]

For those who are more familiar with ICE efficiency units : 5.4 miles per kWh = 182 miles per gallon Gasoline equivalent The most efficient ICE car got maybe 39 MPGe efficiency. Just sayin...

[@GoGreenAutos]

Good point

[@MrDuncl]

An ICE car doesn't need the e for equivalent. We got 67MPG on a 150 mile Motorway trip (Stansted to Bournemouth) in my Wife's Petrol (Gas) Skoda Citigo and that wasn't trying.

[@peterbell7553]

I'm really confused by people who think slowing down in an EV creates energy. Yes it puts otherwise lost energy (braking/heat) back into the battery, but with electrical and mechanical losses. You then have to accelerate back up to your original speed. This then uses what energy that has just been put into the battery by regen, plus a bit more due to electrical circuit and mechanical losses. So overall due to electrical resistance and mechanical losses, you lose energy by slowing and accelerating again. Surely maintaining a reasonable momentum is the way to go.

[@marvinsamuels1237]

I doubt people slow down deliberately to recoup energy. As you are obviously aware, energy that would ordinarily be lost as heat or friction is recaptured as part of the natural slowing down process, be it in traffic, approaching a junction or corner, or simply coming to a complete stop. I can’t say I’ve spoken to an EV drivers that slow down purely to top up the batteries.

[@peterbell7553]

@@marvinsamuels1237 I was replying to Go Green Autos initial comment that the journey is going to less efficient due to being on fast roads and not having some stop start driving. In reality it seems more efficient because the car is spending less time at higher speeds, which is harder for the motor to push the car through the air. Just cruise at a lower speed.

[@marvinsamuels1237]

@@peterbell7553 ah! I see. Apologies. Yes, as with any vehicle, reducing your speed brings improvements in efficiency 👍🏾

[@Nikoo033]

I have a 28kWh Hyundai Ioniq, which is even more efficient than the car presented in this video. Matt is correct and your assumptions are erroneous I am afraid. The losses you mention aren’t that much whereas the regen sends back 10-40kW into the battery when you use it. Sometimes going downhill or even if the road has a slight downward slope, I would barely use the accelerator and only use regen to slow down or break. My EV does 5.5-6.5 miles/kWh on mixed roads at the moment thanks to this. When I drive on the motorway, using adaptive cruise control and lane assist, the efficiency drops to 4.5-5 miles/kWh simply because the motor is constantly pulling energy to keep moving a 1.6 tonnes vehicle at that speed. When you slow down using regen, even though you need to accelerate to go back to your previous speed, it takes a while to use up the energy you’ve generated with regen: you can see on the dash the range going up, being maintained, and eventually starting to drop if you have not used regen for a while. So over the course of a whole trip, this saves quite a lot of energy. And the Ioniq does that very well, in addition to being shaped like a slick dolphin😂

[@marvinsamuels1237]

@@Nikoo033 mine is also the colour of a dolphin 😅 my wife hates the colour.

[@davidknollman4222]

Ioniq is so under rated. Clocked up 27,000 miles in mine and always set cruise to 75 on motorway. On trips from Somerset to Birmingham via M5 it always averaged around 4.5 miles per kWh. Around town hitting 6-6 is not unusual. Amazing efficiency from this car that newer models don't seem to be able to achieve! Bring them back with a 64kw battery.

[@benellis7427]

A 64kwh Ioniq would be amazing. 280 miles at 70-75mph! My long term average on the car is 5.8mi/kWh meaning I would get 375 miles on a charge. I'm guessing we wouldn't see this efficiency with a 64kwh battery unless they make it the same weight.

[@GoGreenAutos]

That speed difference is pretty standard across all vehicles. At 70mph, most cars are actually doing about 4-5mph less. My 2014 Tesla Model S seems bang on though. That's the first vehicle I've seen that.

[@jerrym1401]

With that big battery it would be less eficient, as it would gain weight!

[@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270]

Well said! A friend of mine here in France has had one of the 28 kWh examples since 2017, an ex-demo model. Now on 108,000 km with never a problem and no discernible loss of range. He is hoping that one day he can fit an aftermarket battery, 64 kWh would give it an impressive range. People here keep cars for decades, no salt ever on the roads, rust isn't an issue but could the suspension/body take the extra weight?

[@Nikoo033]

64 kWh would definitely bring the efficiency down significantly. As proof, the 38kWh Ioniq is less efficient overall than the 28kWh. A maximum of 55kWh would be sufficient and give 200-210 miles of range (100%-15%) at motorway speed and 4.5 miles/kWh.

[@briangriffiths114]

As a comparison, my Fiat 500e is driven with a light foot and averages 4.5 miles per kWh over the entire year according to the car's computer. But I rarely exceed 60 mph and don't ever need the aircon, even in summer, so your figures are far better than mine.

[@GoGreenAutos]

Just a word of warning...its a good idea to use your air con at least once a week or so to keep the system lubricated otherwise the little rubber o-ring seals can dry and then refrigerant leaks. Its more common in EVs (especially small battery EVs) as some use the air con less to preserve energy, but it can have a detrimental effect. Just use once a week or so all year round, for about 10 mins.

[@briangriffiths114]

@@GoGreenAutos Advice much appreciated and will be followed, many thanks.

[@iKaGe01]

This model is very efficient! A Lot more than recent models. My 30kWh Leaf averaged 4.6 miles per kWh doing 455 miles on twisty lanes/motorways max 66mph on dash so the Ioniq works out tonnes better! 205 miles on a 40kWh battery?!

[@GoGreenAutos]

Actually 300 miles is possible. Video coming soon!

[@benellis7427]

We have a leaf 40kwh and an Ioniq 38kwh. The Ioniq really does have 50+ more miles of range. The leaf averages 4-4.5mi/kWh and the Ioniq rarely goes under 5 and 6 is easily achievable if you are not on the motorway.

[@evodessey]

The energy usage gets updated after you’ve turned the car off so you would see the last trip if you did that.

[@iantaylor1172]

Dynamo! Showing your age. 😂😂

[@GoGreenAutos]

Yes. I used to have a dynamo to run the Every Read lights on my Raleigh Chopper!

[@iantaylor1172]

@@GoGreenAutos I remember dynamos on the cars I worked on as an apprentice, the old Morris Oxfords,very early minis, and the battery positive as earth and negative live. 🤣🤣

[@AlainODea]

14.3 kwH/100km city, 17.4 kWh/100km highway, 15.5 kwH/100km combined at 1,529kg (so much for "heavy" EVs as this is on par with ICE sedans and lighter than typical SUVs). It outdoes even the Tesla Model 3 and Lucid Air which are more expensive to wildly more expensive vehicles. I'm curious why Hyundai stopped selling this. I would like to see a renaissance of efficient, lightweight EVs and I think Hyundai is well-positioned to achieve that. I think the advances in kWh/kg in battery chemistries are really promising to achieve that. I really hope car manufacturers don't chase ridiculous range numbers with huge kWh number and instead focus on hyper-efficient lightweight vehicles at fixed kWh, possibly around 64 kWh for small vechicles and 128 kWh for larger vehicles. The Aptera is a positive step in that direction. I heard a program on CBC's (Canada's national public broadcaster) "The Cost of Living" suggesting that the increased weight of EVs is a serious concern affecting road maintenance, bridge design, and car parks. This is not a realistic concern unless vehicles become twice as heavy on average, They are more likely to get 30% heavier on average for few years until we get more efficient batteries. It would be nice to see EVs with 5 or more seats that minimize weight and maximize efficiency to bury concerns like that for good.

[@GoGreenAutos]

The new Ioniq 6 is meant to be that new super efficient vehicle, but still doesn't achieve what the original Ioniq did. Part of the problem is that they've gone for power and performance, which is just too excessive on most EVs. The original Ioniq is plenty powerful enough for a family hatchback.

[@AlainODea]

@@GoGreenAutos I totally agree. The Ioniq 6 could probably exceed the Ioniq Electric on performance if they dialed back the wheel size, battery pack, and motors. Interestingly the most efficient Ioniq 6 is the base model.

[@iantaylor1172]

The stats are not per day as such. My 7.30am and 4.30pm commute show separatley.

[@gavjlewis]

Korean time! 😂

[@andrewtrimble9770]

The data resets after 4 hours if the car has not been driven.

[@GoGreenAutos]

That's good to know, thanks. I never knew that, but then never bothered to look it up.

[@jannat7476]

The city driving is very efficient

[@ericeaves707]

I don’t understand how you have 200 miles of potential range?!? My 2021 fully charged never seen more than 115 miles.

[@GoGreenAutos]

As with all vehicles, it depends on your driving efficiency. That's what you've got to look at. You can also have a fault which is causing poor economy, such as a stuck brake caliper. If your economy is good, but the range is poor, then look at your battery capacity, but that's unlikely to be the issue.

[@user-sc1rz9tj5w]

I have no doubt that your Hyundai Ionic is very efficient but for balance I think it's important to point out your average speed was actually only 42mph for the entire trip from what I can see. This can be misleading as people might think that you will can get this high efficiency (5.4m/kWh) driving at an actual 70mph average which or course it won't do. Enjoy your videos

[@GoGreenAutos]

Correct. But unless you're going to drive during the early hours of the morning, you cannot average 70mph on the M4, M3 and M25. I've do this trip frequently and have done it now around 150 times and its always a 2.5-3 hour trip.

[@francisdoran971]

​@@GoGreenAutosThat's a point a lot of people. It's often not much slower, in terms of average speed, to drive 5-10mph slower. Hit a hold up and the slightly higher average speed one achieves through driving faster, rapidly drops to much closer to that of the slower car. Slower is more efficient and may not be much slower overall.

[@michaelgoode9555]

We don't fill our ID.3 every day. We juice up on average once every 10 days to 2 weeks and then only to 80%. On the "once every 3 months" occasion when we go on a longer journey I might juice up to 100% before we leave but usually not simply because it is not necessary. I nearly bought an Ioniq but just liked the ID.3 more. A personal choice I know.

[@GoGreenAutos]

That's a good example of why many don't need such large batteries in their EVs. If you can't charge at home, then yes, you need a large battery. But if you can, you don't need a battery that only needs recharging every two weeks. The problem is that new EV buyers don't realise that and want to replicate their ICE vehicle. When manufacturer's offer different pack sizes, the smaller pack model doesn't sell!

[@HologramJones]

Hyundai just take my money !🤣

[@AndyC2_]

If you really were driving at the maximum speed limit, it’s pretty amazing how many were driving massively over because you were being overtaken by virtually everything !

[@benellis7427]

Even if you do 70-75mph continuously the efficiency is still 4.5+ mi/kWh and that's in hilly parts of Devon. On the flat I can imagine you would do better.

[@davidsworld5837]

when you look at what these cars can do and put it against the poor effort of a taycan 127m at 5.4 is 23 kW's used for the trip if you were in a leaf it would be nearer 3.5 which would be 36 kWs used. which is a big difference when looking at charging costs on a MW charger

[@GoGreenAutos]

and this is without trying. I've filmed another video where I tried to drive efficiently. Its staggering what this car can do. That video will come coming in 3-4 weeks time.

[@MartinPedersenTM]

English might not be my primary language, but you are using it wrong. It's not less efficient at speed. It cost more energy to go fast... There IS a difference. Like something can be cheap but still be allot of money.

[@benellis7427]

The motor may not be less efficient at higher speed but the car is less efficient (wasting more energy) due to drag. Petrol engines seem efficient on the motorway but that's just because they are so inefficient at low speeds. Petrol cars not being able to recoup any energy from braking and gearbox inefficiency at low speeds has a worse effect than the drag at motorway speed.

[@MartinPedersenTM]

@@benellis7427 Efficiency is an expression af theoretical required energy to accomplish said task, and the amount of energy that was used for said task. The drag coefficient is static. The laws of physics of pushing through air is what it is as well. So, I disagree mixing that up with the term efficiency. It's simply not correct.

[@benellis7427]

@@MartinPedersenTM I understand what you mean. I think the confusion comes from the fact we are discussing something coined as fuel/energy efficiency but it's actually fuel/energy economy (we are displaying it as economy because that's what our car designer has chosen to display). Our cars display a read out of how many miles have been achieved per kWh this is generally the method adopted by most manufacturers and the industry as a whole. Efficiency would usually be displayed as a percentage (useful power out ÷ total power in) but you must admit that would be pretty useless to use in our cars as we also want to know about external conditions and our impact as a driver, however far more useful during design. So when discussing what is described as fuel (in this case we mean electrical energy) efficiency in the motoring world a car is less fuel efficient at high speed but is not necessarily less efficient at high speed.

[@brandywell44]

The EV nightmare...getting to a charging station and its full of cars and cars waiting. Potential for conflict as well as the potential long wait.

[@Nikoo033]

You just have to aim for charging stations with a minimum number of chargers. I usually go for 4-6 minimum and haven’t encountered queues. Hubs with 14 stalls (28 connectors) are popping up all around the country at the moment, and each time I have used them, only 30% of the chargers were in use.

[@GoGreenAutos]

In 7 years of driving, I've honestly only had that situation once and that was on a bank holiday at a services on the M40. But since the number of EVs has increased, but so has the number of public chargers. There's now 45,737 public chargers in the UK. We do still need more, but the network is currently growing about 30% a year!

[@FFVoyager]

Also consider the time you are stopping - you want to stop for a meal break and it's not surprising if lots of others do too! But if that's unavoidable, because you are low on charge, I'd fire up ChargerFinder and see where else in the locality has chargers. There really are loads out there now.

[@jannat7476]

I don't have a home charger i live in a flat to charge it on a charging point overnight to get the cheapest 39p per kilowatt and it's more expensive than ⛽️

[@Nikoo033]

Impossible, that EV will never be more expensive in terms of £/mile than an ICE car.

[@benellis7427]

It's not as cheap as with a home charger (less than 2p a mile) but you will still easily manage 7p a mile at 39p a kWh . Maybe a moped might come close.

[@GoGreenAutos]

You're wrong there. Even at 39p pkWh it is considerably cheaper to run an EV. Not that cost should be the defining factor though. But use this calculator to help you work it out evnext.io/ev-fuel-savings-calculator/

[@restfulplace3273]

‘We have to use regen to get the energy back’ Dude thinks he has a perpetual motion machine. I’m still staggered ppl can’t comprehend basic concepts or explain themselves. Hint : regen captures your kinetic energy. Battery Recharge & discharge is not 100% efficient

[@tinyexcell]

Don't buy electric