Going In Blind | Alitalia Flight 771

[@kfraserfwb]

I love you are covering the early days of aviation accidents.

[@dianericciardistewart2224]

Excellent, Allec!! Sadly, it's mistakes like this that have gotten us where we are today. So many helpful tools today. It's sad in the fact that life was lost in learning how to improve overall. Thanks for your tremendous work on these. . . Hope all is well with you!! 💕✈✈💕

[@geoh7777]

From the lessons learned, this kind of "mistake" was never to be made again. If only. I am so glad that my "flying days" are over.

[@TheEDFLegacy]

@@geoh7777 Why?

[@psalm2forliberty577]

So sad this was TRAGIC. Has "overworked International crew" written all over it. This happened 60 YEARS AGO ! Consider that Lindbergh only flew his pioneering Trans-Atlantic flight in 1927 just 33 years prior. Amazing progress....and yet MUCH improvement to be made. Yes the history & progress of Aviation is written in blood. We are the living beneficiaries of those fatal crashes. I try to recall that whenever I fly, a spirit of Gratitude to God & those lost. On a lighter note Alec I really appreciate the classic early 60s ALITALIA Liveried DC8 photos. RIP to the 92 Souls lost, in Jesus name !

[@TheHaratashi]

You have your numbers wrong. This crash was in 1962, which means Lindbergh's transatlantic flight was 35 years earlier, not 33.

[@RatPfink66]

*Sydney-Darwin-Bangkok-Bombay-Karachi-Tehran-Rome* Sydney to Rome is over 10,000 mi (16,000 km) today without all the stops and takes close to 24 hours...I assume they changed crews at least once...

[@Neal_Schier]

I flew the C-141B in the Air Force from 1987 to around 2000. Particularly in the late 80s we flew in areas that were still non-radar. Yes we had INS, but you still had to really use your charts and pay particular attention to terrain, position, etc. I say this as I have an appreciation for what this crew might have been experiencing. It was a completely different game back then and your situational awareness was no where near what it is today with EGPWS and the like. I wish they had had a CVR so that we might have heard what was said regarding the top of descent, the approach brief, etc.

[@TheEDFLegacy]

Oh, for sure. I've played IL-2 Sturmovik before, and full realism mode is really something else when it comes to navigation at night. Without sunlight while barely being able to see the ground, you really have to be paying attention or else you'll run out of fuel. And that's in a video game. I can only imagine the pressure in real life, where running out of fuel could have lethal consequences.

[@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043]

Dang. As others have pointed out, rules governing flight are indeed written in blood. RIP crew and passengers.

[@byronharano2391]

Kuya Allec. How is your flight training going? Blessings to you Kapatid

[@neilpountney9414]

Awesome as always Allec I hope everything is going well for you.

[@SpeedyHedgieAllstars]

Wow Allec that’s a great video I love and I will remember and never forget that those people who died in the plane crash Allec keep up the good work.

[@muffs55mercury61]

Controlled flight into terrain is almost always pilot error but then navigation isn't what it's like now. Some cases were incompetence and some is not. The jet age was only a little more than three years old and even then only half the routes were flying them at the time (mostly long hauls) Whether the pilots were used to it by then probably no one knows.

[@julosx]

The then jets were too fast for those inefficient flying aids and instruments. It took a while to fit the latters to the formers, many international airports didn't have a single radar to begin with, even 25 years after this accident. Basically the last airliner that fell victim of a CFIT was in 2011, that says a lot about the progress that had to be made…

[@TheEDFLegacy]

@@julosx Sadly it'll likely happen again, though it'll be a huge surprise (or scandal) if it does.

[@gabrielchinzz3332]

Flying back in the days was certainly "Costly" in both money and your life....

[@Mark-ny5rf]

Fantastic Allec another outstanding video.

[@glowbugVT]

The early jet days were wild. This and the Dan-Air Comet that flew into the ground...*sigh*

[@birdnest5814]

So this was before the “pull up, terrain” warning system was invented? RIP to the 94 people that lost their lives.🙏

[@psalm2forliberty577]

LONG BEFORE. Keep in mind this was 60 years ago ! GPWS probably came about early 80s as I recall.

[@muffs55mercury61]

I think in the early years an alarm or buzzer was all that went off. I don't know when that was invented.

[@julosx]

@@psalm2forliberty577 The earliest GPWS appeared between 1974 and 1979, before being mandatory. In 1996 the EGPWS replaced the old system to warn the pilots much earlier. They have three levels of function and are used also for landing (level 1) when the aircraft itself made the calls for altitude ("Terrain, terrain" alert is level 2 and "Pull Up" is level 3).

[@psalm2forliberty577]

@@julosx Awesome thx for all those details. You're a real pilot I presume. I only "fly" as a fun hobby. I was somewhat educated guessing....not far off. I was an eyewitness of sorts to the 1978 PSA 182 Disaster which I suppose heightened my Aviation interest.

[@TheEDFLegacy]

@@psalm2forliberty577 Witness of sorts? Can you explain?

[@6omega2]

Beautiful photos of the vintage Alitalia livery. Very sad story.

[@micheleshively8557]

Another beautifully done video Allec! Fascinating stories and you handle them so well! Many blessings to you and your followers and family 💚

[@aurealara8800]

Thank you for your video. My great-uncle was a flight attendant on Alitalia flight 771, and he died in the crash. 😔

[@jeremypearson6852]

Entirely preventable, but as with many accidents it was a series of errors compounded.

[@charlesduran8700]

i loved the some of the pics of the IAB terminal at JFK

[@slukas1375]

Well done, Allec. What a needless tragedy.

[@johningram9081]

Great job as always

[@Capecodham]

How?

[@JamesMcCown-yf3qf]

I am struck by what a graceful and beautiful plane the 707 was -- as contrasted with the 747 and its bulbous front end.

[@RatPfink66]

its a DC-8, but yes, another classic design.

[@aflacduckquack]

Lack of situational awareness doomed these guys. Gotta prep better for a flight that has terrain involved. So sad. Nice video, Allec-

[@aidanzacharyguzman1676]

Sa mapagmahal na alaala ni Alitalia. Mayo 5, 1947-Disyembre 15, 2021.

[@FH99]

There were two things working against this flight, the captain and the Alitalia dispatcher.

[@roberthudson1959]

Having the same person at two levels of the chain-of-command tends to be a problem.

[@mbryson2899]

That early in the air travel game and jet age was wild. The number of things that could go wrong was huge. Without recorders we'll never know for certain.

[@loislane4583]

A VERY similar accident would occur in 1972 with another Alitalia aircraft, this time in Italy.. SAD!

[@WendyKS93]

I find it more than a bit odd that there was no flight plan found in the crash. I simply cannot imagine that neither the Captain nor the First Officer bothered to make certain that they had the plans with them especially for such a long flight involving so many stops. However, whether the flight plans were obtained by the flight crew and were on the plane or not, the fact remains that an extremely experienced Captain, without making absolutely certain where his plane was and that it was safe to descend to such a low level, allowed this plane to descend to a level far to low for safety and a terrible tragedy followed because of it. I wonder if fatigue on the part of the flight crew played a part in their decision making?

[@georgeconway4360]

@@WendyKS93 The airplane had many stops but normally there are crew changes at some point.

[@rinaaliciazeaflorez6580]

Excelent video 😃

[@asteverino8569]

Thank you AJI.

[@JasonFlorida]

Yay! Another great video!

[@Capecodham]

why?

[@JosephStalin-yk2hd]

@@Capecodham cope, or leave..

[@geoffedmonds6507]

It is sad that so many people have died from the earlier age of aviation due to a cavalier attitude or just sh#!@y pilot skills and training. I mean no flight plan? And a subhuman lying his arse off because he was probably told to "get that plane in the air" by his bosses is my guess? And even though this still happens today there are far fewer and in-between because of the lessons learned about by crashes like this one. I love these older stories as I have not heard of many of them so thank you Josh. Keep up the great work.

[@georgeconway4360]

I posted a link to the actual accident report. It still is there and gives you the report. The report says the impact point was 52NM Bearing 077 Degrees from the airport. The airplane impacted the mountain at the 3,600 foot elevation. If the crew planned a straight in approach with no procedure turn they should have planned to be at FL156 (15, 600’) at the impact point. They were about 12,000’ too low. If the VOR/DME was available from Bombay they were so low they probably lost reception of both due to the high terrain east of Bombay.

[@vfx7t]

At 8:54 (will do) that the pilot commander pronounced, in order to liquidate the controller, who became much too cumbersome, it was a warning sign that he did not even know what he was doing. Besides, just after the plane boomed. Finally, RIP and thank you for sharing. Translate French, English !

[@RatPfink66]

Bombay called the plane like three times before they got an answer. What were that crew doing?

[@bullseyes1983]

Captain left without a flight plan? Did the dispacher had other unsigned flight plans in his files or was this the first time? This is pretty weird.

[@georgeconway4360]

I doubt they did not have a flight plan. Sounds like a paperwork screw up.

[@1rem1Art]

Thank you.

[@katsanddoggies9904]

So the pilot takes off without a flight plan, that's strange. I would think a pilot would need this information, am i wrong?

[@billyponsonby]

to pin culpability on a dead guy, airlines, manufacturers and authorities will use whatever they can to deflect blame from themselves. In this case a missing signature. Most recent examples - two Max 8 disasters. The plan was very likely taken.

[@geoh7777]

@@billyponsonby "... manufacturers and authorities will use whatever they can to deflect blame from themselves." And they don't have to pick up the dead bodies and clean up the mess, either.

[@patriciamariemitchel]

St George of Floyd, especially back then.

[@tomsommer8372]

In Italy, there are no plans. Ever. Just like when they go to war - cowardice, confusion, and eventually they switch sides.

[@janethigginbottom]

Another great video from you :) I'm going to join your patreon so I can help support your content :)

[@Robin35758]

Thank you for this video Allec. Were planes not equipped with radio altimeters then? Apparently, the controllers did not notice that altitude issue.

[@georgeconway4360]

How would a controller notice an altitude issue? What would a radio altimeter do? This was long before altitude reporting! Do you think radar wa in use in India at that time? When I first started flying to Europe late 1969 we had to make position reports at each position on the airway. Even when radar came available navigation was inside the cockpit with no radar control outside the terminal area, for Europe. What do you think was available in India?

[@Robin35758]

@@georgeconway4360 Radio altimeters were invented in the 1930s while this accident happened in 1962.

[@georgeconway4360]

@@Robin35758 But there was no radio altimeter on the DC8 until the late 1960s and only then for the capability of flying Category II ILS Approach to 100’. Most radio altimeters only started reading at 2500’ or below and were not in the normal scan of pilots with the exception of low visibility approaches. The first DC8 with the radio altimeter that had one was the DC8-63 first delivered in 1968. I would guess that aircraft may have been retrofitted with radio altimeter sensors when GPWS was first introduced in the mid 1970s. I can’t recall seeing any in the older DC-8.

[@Robin35758]

@@georgeconway4360 Sounds like you know more about it than I do.

[@celtc2128]

7/7/1962 Names: Luigi Quattrin, Ugo Arcangeli, Luciano Fontana Age: 50 (Luigi), 33 (Ugo), 31 (Luciano) Flying Time: 1.5 years (Luigi), 4.8 months (Ugo), 5.6 Months (Luciano) Plane Age: 6 months Status: Crash On Board: 94 Survivors: 0%

[@JosephStalin-yk2hd]

Hey Allec? Can you do American Airlines flight 1400?

[@petuniaskunk2316]

Happy Cinco de Mayo

[@charlesclager6808]

So many unanswered questions in this video. No flight plan approved. Why the poor communications between ATC and the plane ?

[@julosx]

Maybe because they were already too low in relatively high terrain.

[@sushantjagtap3249]

i am staying near of that crashed area about 100 km. still there are planes parts found on hill. Some villagers brought crashed parts.

[@ciaranhalliday9050]

Could you show me the site of Alitalia Flight 771

[@salmanalfarisiyunansyah7785]

Date Of Accident : July 7, 1962 (61 Years Ago)

[@maxrichter6164]

Am I the only one who reads the general information text in my head with voice of Jonathan Ares (ACI Narrator)?

[@jackwoods9604]

Flying Blind inside a Huge Metal Missile With Wings...Insanity

[@blrenx]

it seems that the pilot started this sad chain of events ,when he deviated from both flight plans...

[@DrMackSplackem]

3:35 Something doesn't seem right here, but I just can't quite put my finger on it.

[@sbolden123]

That station manager is/was full of lies 🙄👎🤦‍♂️...deadly lied about the situation

[@umeshshelke725]

My farm is just 1km away from where this flight crash occurred. Village Local tribal community old people knows some information about this crash . One Part of airplane are still present in one home

[@philipmessedger481]

At least they haven’t had time to realize a thing before extinction.

[@OhanaLulu]

If you have to go in a plane crash, then that’s the ideal. It’s the ones that fall out of the sky that haunt me.

[@Dilley_G45]

Doesn't make them any less dead. And we don't know what happened

[@maxtornogood]

It's cold, dark and then......CRASH!

[@alberta1st]

Unfortunate it took these crashes and decades of loss of life to modernize the aircraft for reckless pilots.

[@muffs55mercury61]

Yes, also known as tombstone technology.

[@julosx]

It took about 50 more years for the airliners to get rid of the CFITs, which says it all.

[@georgeconway4360]

@@julosx When did they get rid of them?

[@julosx]

@@georgeconway4360 The last one I heard of in commercial aviation happened in 2010 (AirBlue flight 202).

[@EphemeralProductions]

I was like "damn!" when they crashed. LOL Just flying along, finished their transmission, and BOWSH!!! RIght slam into the ground.

[@JJDigitalartStudio]

Damaged Carrier airlines does it again.

[@DoobyDubNCG]

ahh with that lack of gamma correction, that could only be FSX! a game so old, broken, and forgot about, its amazing its legal to even still sell it! that DLC list is a comical achievement for greed!

[@b.t.356]

The fact that the pilot (allegedly) took off without a flight plan is beyond sus to me. Wouldn't that be one of the items that a pilot wouldn't want to leave without?

[@comfortably_numbat]

And his Amex card

[@bobbartlett3073]

The verbiage is too light on the background to read and could you slow the video down some so there’s time to read it all. I truly appreciate your excellent videos reporting exactly what happened In these flights. Thank you.

[@janethigginbottom]

This seems like a you problem. Nobody else has this issue. You can always use the pause facility.

[@brianmcdonald6519]

@@janethigginbottom How do you know nobody else has this issue? It is a known fact that some people are slower readers than others! The issue of light text on light background is legitimate. I have that problem from time to time as well.

[@JosephStalin-yk2hd]

@@brianmcdonald6519 simple, just turn up your lighting on your electronic device, instead of complaining.

[@brianmcdonald6519]

@@JosephStalin-yk2hd Where did you get the idea I was complaining??? I made a statement of FACT!! I was not complaining about anything!! The person I responded to had a complaint!! Start reading comments before commenting!!

[@JosephStalin-yk2hd]

@@brianmcdonald6519 woah calm down.. no need for the ignorant yelling.

[@King_Roshan138]

Sir,Tiger Flight 66 Crash Animination Creat a vedio really what happend to this plain

[@julosx]

The problem with the flight 66, it remains a cold case. Nobody knows what happened despite so much means deployed by the U.S. Navy in the area back then (same year as this crash). They didn't have light submarines in those days, there's more than likely nothing left of this aircraft and its occupants.

[@craigfuller1532]

If you flew at night or in weather back then you were just asking for it.

[@Knight6831]

They never saw the hill

[@sbolden123]

For starters , the plane was scheduled for too many stops 💯🤦‍♂️👎. I'm not an expert but....

[@deepthinker999]

Common back then along with light passenger loads.

[@jessasto947]

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. (John 1:1-3)

[@anandguruji83]

Going In Blind | Alitalia Flight 771

[@anandguruji83]

Going In Blind | Alitalia Flight 771

[@YanDaOne_QC]

Thanks

[@celtc7875]

Going In Blind | Alitalia Flight 771 Everyone dead, destroyed at hill, lasted 6 months

[@mohalem]

23rd!

[@styx1311]

HE NEED CREATE TransAsia Filght 1320

[@bobxoneill]

21st!

[@WilliamnWendySue]

Start video … play for 3 minutes, build narrative, then crash. The end.

[@lisazinn866]

I believe I was on that flight.

[@CoIoneIPanic]

Going in blind is kind of like Cleveland steamer as I discovered

[@SNKR_HEAD83]

Bad crm!

[@MTisOnly1]

That was the time when stewardesses used to say: "Coffee, Tea or Me"

[@julosx]

Whilst in fact it was more "Eat shit and die", as Duke Nukem would put it.

[@naknaksdadn572]

Not a damned clue

[@Greggg57]

All of this weather briefing is just B.S. It doesn't matter. Bad piloting, plain and simple. Those guy should have been flight instructors for a few years.

[@Capecodham]

Can I donate to get you to stop posting?

[@thedocnak]

Why?

[@Capecodham]

@@thedocnak His videos are devoid of any useful content. However I am stuck watching them hoping he will be what he once was.

[@YanDaOne_QC]

FAKE

[@manuelcalenda8944]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alitalia_Flight_771

[@pedrohicken3884]

You care to explain why?

[@YanDaOne_QC]

@@pedrohicken3884 ask your mom

[@georgeconway4360]

According to this accident report the Captain had more than 1300 hours in the DC8. The F/O had more DC8 time than the Captain. Based on these fact’s Alitalia had to be flying the DC8 for 3-4 years. www.baaa-acro.com/sites/default/files/import/uploads/2017/11/I-DIWD.pdf