Gold Button from RAM Stick Fingers

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eWaste Ben

eWaste Ben

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@pacoblancosmith
@pacoblancosmith 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, that seems like a hire copper content than what I would have thought. But I'm basing that on the fact that I dissolve most of the copper off my RAM fingers with vinegar and hydrogen peroxide. I just started a new, small trial batch after using your "soldering iron removal process"....which I can see will be much simpler when I filter the foils......no more pulling out each individual pub board remnant and rinsing them off!! That took the most time of the entire process!
@russellpindar7717
@russellpindar7717 8 жыл бұрын
As other have said, 2.93g of gold. I beleive you can drop out the gold by electrolysis of the copper. You will gain pure copper and the gold will be in the anode slimes. You can then purify the gold seperately.
@eWasteBen
@eWasteBen 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, i'll study up on electrolysis
@TiborRoussou
@TiborRoussou 7 жыл бұрын
10% nickel was a surprise to me as well. I use hydrochloric acid and hydrogen peroxide to remove my foils; the acid eats away the base metals leaving only the gold flakes. These flakes are anywhere from 8 to 24 carat.
@TnT_F0X
@TnT_F0X 8 жыл бұрын
Aww, you caved and went with the new age furnace, shoulda built one out of a trash can and hair drier like me. I use it for Scraping and re-purposing broken Sterling Silver and aluminum cans :) You make me want to break apart my computer from the 2000's and scrap it!
@zebulundocallas
@zebulundocallas 7 жыл бұрын
If you do not want the borax to get stuck with the gold, you can heat the crucible with the borax first before putting the gold.
@CoinSilver800
@CoinSilver800 7 жыл бұрын
make sure before you take any bars to get zapped that you sand the spot you want them to test off or file the area so that you get a reading from inside. you can drill it if you want but if they are only shooting the xrf on the outside they will get some of the surface junk that will show a lower percentage of gold than what you really have. when you just buff it with a wire wheel your also transferring whatever the wheel is made out of onto the metal as well. another thing you can do to get rid of the borax slag is to take you bar and place it into some about 10% sulphuric acid solution. the borax will be eaten away and the bar will be fine. (generally when dealing with gold and silver with low amounts of base metals, you might start to form some copper sulphate after a while but your not leaving it in to make too much of a difference even on a bar that is showing about 3.5% gold) Great video's though :) keep up the great work!
@colbymg
@colbymg 8 жыл бұрын
you might have more gold than that. copper-based wire brushes will deposit copper onto metals when heated, and grinding like that can heat it enough, so you likely have a thin layer of copper on the outside of your button. that machine looks like it uses XRF, which only measures the surface composition. you can try filing a section and getting that section re-tested, or drill a small hole and test the flakes that come out of the inside.
@Justinbeehoney
@Justinbeehoney 5 жыл бұрын
Ben do 1000 ram stick challenge. Again!!! Use the acid and explain it for us purify it more then check it with the machine! Do it again 2020 asap
@JuliusBalboa500
@JuliusBalboa500 7 жыл бұрын
I'll wear that thing as a pendant. Not too shabby. Looks nice
@lee-eb2cn
@lee-eb2cn 8 жыл бұрын
hi love your videos. wondering why you didn't use a carbon rod while melting. pulls out the crap and you knock the top off with all the slag on it. seems you are polishing away part of the gold. we want to know the purity.
@HotelPapa100
@HotelPapa100 7 жыл бұрын
Why do you assume that you burn off gold of all things under the burner? Gold is the most inert of all the metals present, so will burn last (not at all, actually). Copper and Nickel will go first.
@brendone171
@brendone171 8 жыл бұрын
Good on ya Ben for going to the trouble of showing us what the foils contain and how much other metals is in the 85g I think it's and easy way of doing the foils but as one comment says is to use the Vinegar and Peroxide to get rid of the cu and get a purer pieceanyway a great and informative vid
@SomervilleBob
@SomervilleBob 8 жыл бұрын
You can soak the foils in a vinegar and hydrogen peroxide (50/50%) to get rid of the copper before melting it.
@Mrcastleskeep
@Mrcastleskeep 8 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the guys who use a hammer mill for recycling electronics? The shaker table separates all the gold, silver, and copper from everything else.
@arduinomasterrobertmoller2904
@arduinomasterrobertmoller2904 8 жыл бұрын
Use pickling powder from your jewelry supplier to clean off the borax at 80 C in water solution. Use only copper tweezers.
@jaydstein
@jaydstein 8 жыл бұрын
That's such a cool project you've been working on. If I were you, I would hold on to that button that you've made. It's worth much more than what someone would pay you for it.
@joek511
@joek511 Жыл бұрын
about 29 grams Au if refined further. I do it the same way, but then I refine the foils. I start with HNO3, rinse 1 time in a reusable coffee filter. The plastic type, very fast. Then I use AR. In the end I might have 1 liter of waste instead of gallons.
@ccsportsdad
@ccsportsdad 8 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the furnace working again :) I really gotta save up and get one of those, they look like they are a lot of fun :) That machine they used to check the material content percentages looks awesome as well, but that may be more than my pocket book can handle. Great video Ben, take care buddy, Chris:)
@tomleech9753
@tomleech9753 4 жыл бұрын
I know this is an older video, but are you familiar with a KZbinr named sreetips? :)
@JReklis
@JReklis 3 жыл бұрын
I think mount barker mining is more up his alley given that he is reluctant to use acids, and the acids (and their base ingredients are hard to get and expensive in Australia due to having been marked by gov as bomb making chemicals (ignoring that they are everything making chemicals)
@alanmorgan3157
@alanmorgan3157 8 жыл бұрын
You may want to use pickle solution and tumble in stainless steel shot instead of wire brushing.
@quagmier3
@quagmier3 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben. Another great video. I did the math and that is 2.93 grams of pure gold. you could send it to someone who does refining and recover pure gold from it but it always seems like more work than its worth to me and that nugget you made is so beautiful like it is I would keep it like it is. And if you really wanted to get rid of it I bet it would sell on Ebay just like it is. And a tip on the borax. If you use more of it when melting it will break away like glass when the metal is cooled off and also it is soluble in water so I just put my nuggets in a jewelry cleaner for an hour or so after breaking away most of it. Very enjoyable video to watch.
@eWasteBen
@eWasteBen 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott, think i'll just keep it or might use it as a prize in a competition one day. didn't know borax was water soluble, will try it next time
@HeadCannonPrime
@HeadCannonPrime 4 жыл бұрын
3.45% gold from 85g is 2.93 grams of gold. You are going to need to refine about 10 of these to get anything worthwhile. So that is about 10,000 ram sticks. not sure there is any gold value to be had after the work and material cost.
@ΠαναγιωτηςΣαριδακης-ω8ν
@ΠαναγιωτηςΣαριδακης-ω8ν 4 жыл бұрын
LET'S TELL THEM THAT IT IS THAT THERE IS A METAL STATE AND IT HAS A GOLDEN COLOR FROM ELECTRONIC TYPES AND IT DOES IT RIGHT? WITHOUT GOING TO CHEMICALLY .. SO? DO WE PUT THEM DIRECTLY AS IT IS RIGHT ?
@ΠαναγιωτηςΣαριδακης-ω8ν
@ΠαναγιωτηςΣαριδακης-ω8ν 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks in advance
@kenjett2434
@kenjett2434 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the other values besides the gold that is alot of copper it all adds up. It's well worth processing as it takes very little acid to process those buttons.
@workinalday4351
@workinalday4351 8 жыл бұрын
You don't have to leave it in anything, just dump it straight into a bucket of water, it's called hot shot. Makes a nice little round on the sides kind of pointed on one end glob of whatever you melt.
@destroya3303
@destroya3303 7 жыл бұрын
9:02 what kind of device is that to test for purity? Looks like the sample just sits in there.
@eWasteBen
@eWasteBen 7 жыл бұрын
yeah it's a desktop xrf that connects to a pc, that one costs about $17k I took in a larger silver poured bar to sell and they drilled 2 holes each side and focused the xrf into the holes.
@damok9999
@damok9999 8 жыл бұрын
with the furnace you can get the metals hot enough to pour with plenty of time, its much different that pouring with MAP
@jamesfischer1356
@jamesfischer1356 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben just a quick question did you ever get the gold out of that button you made?
@josephplacencia96
@josephplacencia96 6 жыл бұрын
On another note I'm thinking about taking some ocean water and putting nitric acid and muriatic acid to dissolve any gold particles completely then adding diluted sodium metabusulfite to see how much gold I can get from 3 separate gallons of seawater, who wants to join the journey of experimentation, and I don't want to hear any complaints from people that say things like " you would probably only get this and such" if you don't know, then keep ignorance to yourself.
@Tore_Lund
@Tore_Lund 6 жыл бұрын
Ocean water has Gold, but we are talking 0.001 to 44 parts per billion, that's 2mg / cubic meter, a thousand times less than reasonable rocky ore. However electrolysis can catch metal ions in water and AU+ will collect at the Cathode in a sludge with other metals like Copper and Manganese. That sludge is worth more as is, than the gold in it if your refined it. A suitable low enough voltage will prevent power being wasted on making Hydrogen and Chlorine by running current through seawater, but you will still need a substantial amount of power in respect to your yield, so preferable something like wind or wave power on a buoy with electrodes on the bottom. If you make the Cathode as a disc or a band, a small motor can slowly rotate it so a scraper can recover and store the sludge for when you come by every few months to collect you ore. This might just be economical feasible and a small test device is easy to make. 3 Gallons of seawater will get you 0.023mg of gold!
@MrBensmith8302
@MrBensmith8302 8 жыл бұрын
here is how you separate gold from copper. The works toilet bowl cleaner (hydrocloric acid) and some hydrogen peroxide 50/50. It will dissolve the copper. It takes about 2 days. Same process used to etch circuit boards.
@jockywochy
@jockywochy 8 жыл бұрын
Use Nitric Acid. It will dissolve the copper and nickel but not the gold. You can recover the copper and nickel by electro-refining later. HCl won't dissolve copper but will dissolve nickel.
@walterf.mollerv.8035
@walterf.mollerv.8035 4 жыл бұрын
Why not refined this material before melted this??, now you will refine this for separate the gold, well only is my opinnion, regards!!!!.
@thresholdseven8942
@thresholdseven8942 8 жыл бұрын
somebody ship this man a funnel
@electrogaming8740
@electrogaming8740 5 жыл бұрын
I love how you said "I need to chip away at it," and then immediately whack it with a hammer. 🤣
@ChrisJohnson-py4gg
@ChrisJohnson-py4gg 3 жыл бұрын
Top half of the button is mostly copper and the bottom half is more gold.
@kenjett2434
@kenjett2434 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure you will see this Ben as it's older video but if you took those buttons and put them through electrolysis and pulled off the bulk of the pure copper that would increase the gold percentage and make it far easier to recover the pure gold by chemical process. Electrolysis is a great way to recover pure 999 copper thus reducing copper content of the buttons.
@JReklis
@JReklis 3 жыл бұрын
you can probably use electrolysis to remove the fingers in the first place but the best electrolyte for electrolysis of gold plate is sulphuric acid which was his whole reasoning for wanting to do it this way... the bi product of eloctrolysis of this button would have copper sulphate which is basically wet and forget alagae remover.
@kenjett2434
@kenjett2434 3 жыл бұрын
@@JReklis you could but it would still be dirty gold as copper is far more reactive than gold. No matter what process you always go after the most reactive metals first in a refining process. You want the least reactive to be last for a pure drop. This is why tin in solder can cause big trouble if not removed first it's also why lead is a good collector metal for gold, silver and platinum group metals. As lead is easy removed by cupiling.
@JReklis
@JReklis 3 жыл бұрын
@@kenjett2434 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nanJY4OMmJqnapY
@kenjett2434
@kenjett2434 3 жыл бұрын
@@JReklis I have seen the video I am a long time sub of Streetips doesn't change what I said.
@JReklis
@JReklis 3 жыл бұрын
@@kenjett2434 you can start at the top the bottom or the middle of the table of reactivity, it depends what you are trying to do, sreetips never chases copper until he plates it out of his waste solutions with iron or occasionally when trying to work pgm.... but none of that has any relevance to either my comment or this vid, given that e waste ben states a number of reasons why he doesn't want to chemically refine... It's almost impossible to get sulphuric or nitric in australia as the government flagged them as bomb making chemicals, if you did try you would probably end up on an asio watchlist, and buying sulphur or copper sulphide and peroxide to make sullphuric then nitric looks to me like it it would be an expensive time consuming low yeild endeavour (but I might give it a chop anyway). If I had the amount of gear ben has and didn't want to use chemicals, I would start a mount baker mining style panning rig with a hammer mill, and if I wanted to refine the button in this vid without chemicals I would ignore the 5c worth of copper nickel alloy and smelt it in a mount baker mining style portland cement and lead cupell to refine it to 24k.
@damok9999
@damok9999 8 жыл бұрын
i woulda just purified it with acid and sodium meta bisulfate first. It looked to be in a good form to do that. When i MAPed by filtered foils I crumpled the filters up and burned them with the flakes inside. It melted into a button fine with a thick silicate crucible, lost two little numbs in the crucible though and i was only working with 1 gram of gold, it tested over 14kt pure.
@drakenbakken
@drakenbakken 8 жыл бұрын
If you get a higher temperature and a pyramid mold to separate metals you might get over 33% to make pins more practical as well
@MegaPoxie
@MegaPoxie 6 жыл бұрын
You should remove the remaining 500 RAM stick foils with HCL and a bubbler, it only takes a few days depending on concentration. Great video and thanks for sharing the info.
@gevsar6674
@gevsar6674 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for nice video and hard work. Now I know real ratio of gold in ram strips. Just one question came out. 10% Ni content melted when melting point of Nickel is 1453 degree Celsius.
@eWasteBen
@eWasteBen 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i'm not sure how it happens, maybe because the nickel is very thin.
@leshk256
@leshk256 8 жыл бұрын
it was dissolved by liquid copper
@richardrayner5952
@richardrayner5952 8 жыл бұрын
i like your tecnique i will be doing the same if you find an easy way to get the copper out let me know ive tryed the acid peroxide and i found it desolves everything a bit pointless cheers
@Vatsek
@Vatsek 8 жыл бұрын
Your gold is worth about $120 today assuming someone can remove it from your ingot for free.
@nicolasrodriguez300
@nicolasrodriguez300 6 жыл бұрын
Hey ben one question: is it worth buying 2lbs 11oz of ram boards for 45$ dollars, using your method with the soldering iron?
@eWasteBen
@eWasteBen 6 жыл бұрын
Nope, $15 lb max but to get value you need to process the IC chips too at that price, 2 lb of RAM is not enough to process anyway, you really want 2 lb of fingers alone to bother with it
@nicolasrodriguez300
@nicolasrodriguez300 6 жыл бұрын
eWaste Ben i probably would've ended up buying them if you had not replied, thank you
@raymondreyes9710
@raymondreyes9710 8 жыл бұрын
could it have been a better purity if you hadn't hit it with the mapp gas?
@bantalee2002
@bantalee2002 8 жыл бұрын
no,.the weight remains the same. any impurities from the gas(if any) would have burned off in the kiln.
@johnlarsen2156
@johnlarsen2156 8 жыл бұрын
where can i bay that box or what it called
@94981745
@94981745 8 жыл бұрын
Ben, just browse around google & youtube and look at gold extraction processes using chemistry. Learn about aqua regia (1 part nitric acid, 3 parts hydrchloric, assuming equal acid strength/concentration) and how easy it is to make it. That ugly button in your video won't dissolve completely because its too thick, and as the acid dissolves the gold it leaves behind a layer of gunge which prevents the acid from eating away furthur, so you need to reshape the material until its less than 3mm thick or cut it into 100 tiny pieces. Once you dissolve all the gold you simply filter it out through kitchen towel/coffee filters to get out all the non-liquids and then you add sodium metabisulfate to precipitate the gold out of solution. IF it DOESN"T precipitate out then your mixture is too acidic or contains too much nitric acid. If that is the case, SLOWLY add 1 tablespoon of sodium bicarbonate (bicarb of soda) every minute. Once the pH reaches closer to neutral, the mixture should turn dark brown, and that is the gold being released from the chlorine.... leave it for 30 mins and let the gold sink to the bottom. Wash it out and dry the gold in the sun or a heating device. What you're left with is gold powder. Put it in your crucible and melt it, and you will have 24K PURE gold.
@ogremgtow990
@ogremgtow990 5 жыл бұрын
HCl won't remove copper. Try Nitric acid cut with 50% distilled water.
@RonaldRaiden
@RonaldRaiden 5 жыл бұрын
but if the gold is over 25% purity it won't be true 24K without the AR
@laserfalcon
@laserfalcon 8 жыл бұрын
Can you melt off the copper from winding on small motors and sift out the steel after the copper melts off?
@mrk738
@mrk738 8 жыл бұрын
laserfalcon yes , but it would. Be more cost effective to just scrap it
@jamescorvus8231
@jamescorvus8231 8 жыл бұрын
Where did you get your melting furnace?
@shahidregal4377
@shahidregal4377 8 жыл бұрын
where to buy hot matchine and other trik
@Suiseiseki00Rozen
@Suiseiseki00Rozen 8 жыл бұрын
and now you probably own the worlds most expensive wire brush fucking hell
@caseyclymore4417
@caseyclymore4417 8 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have recently discovered your channel. I have a lot of RAM. At first, I was going to cut the "Fingers" off with metal sheers. I am about 10% done with my total inventory and its going too slow! I estimate to have well around, possibly above 2000 sticks. I have them in boxes, at least two that are the size of the box of RAM from the first video. Is it possible that I could burn the "Fingers" that I have already cut to separate the foils from the board? I like your technique of using the soldering iron to remove the foils, I will probably do that next time I get the patience to start processing them again. I don't want to burn all my boards, just the fingers I've already cut. (since removing them with a soldering iron would be very hard. ) I would like to end up with a nugget like you have here, that's just a mix of metals. I have too many boxes, having it condensed into a nugget like this until I can process it again later would be nice.
@eWasteBen
@eWasteBen 8 жыл бұрын
there's more to ram gold than just fingers, the ic chips have gold too. but there are basic chemicals you can use that will remove the foils off the fingers and at the same time eat away some of the copper & nickel, leaving you with a higher purity of gold foils. look up AP for gold recovery
@Epoch615
@Epoch615 8 жыл бұрын
Look up the channel Cody's Lab if you decide to go the chemical route. He'd got a great series on recovering and refining precious metals using chemicals.
@caseyclymore4417
@caseyclymore4417 8 жыл бұрын
+eWaste Ben cool, I didn't think of processing the IC chips. I have plenty of ram sticks that I haven't clipped yet, maybe I could set up a container, and line up the sticks very carefully, and add the chemicals so that its level just covers the foils. I've seen cody's lab channel, the chemicals kind of intimidate me. I'll keep an eye out for your videos, just to keep watching the technique. Your series is the first that I've seen that really shows how much potential is in X number of ram. I also noticed a milling video you have for processing IC chips, I'll check that one out next. I'm not too interested in making money, I'm mostly interested in the process, and seeing what value I can get from saving "trash".
@thedudelocksmith
@thedudelocksmith 8 жыл бұрын
Great video! Just a question and also a hint of advice. Where did you get your electric furnace from? Also, when polishing the finished product, I recommend doing it inside of a plastic container. This way here you catch all of the dust that you are removing during the polishing stage and can re-melt it later. Especially if it is gold bearing material. Thanks for the great vids, I've learned a lot from them over the last few weeks.
@eWasteBen
@eWasteBen 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, the link to the manufacturer is in the description of the copper ingot video I did last week.
@thedudelocksmith
@thedudelocksmith 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks a bunch!
@bigbassjonz
@bigbassjonz 4 жыл бұрын
Why not separate the gold first before melting?
@bantalee2002
@bantalee2002 8 жыл бұрын
I use a steel wheel brush that way brass from the wheel does not rub off on the slag and borax. Thats about 3 grams of gold.
@arduinomasterrobertmoller2904
@arduinomasterrobertmoller2904 8 жыл бұрын
2.9325grams at 24 carat are worth $151.21AUS at todays price of $1603.84AUS per ounce
@johnjarjoura889
@johnjarjoura889 8 жыл бұрын
Zhou need to get your gold on the far side of 3400 degrees, hotter than the temp to melt platinum to atomize gold and loose weight...your not getting anywhere near that with your map gas or electronic cooker...super high temps
@laynerichards1738
@laynerichards1738 6 жыл бұрын
You should try etching it in ferric chloride
@michaeld954
@michaeld954 8 жыл бұрын
what about using electro plating to extract the gold
@robertveronda4225
@robertveronda4225 8 жыл бұрын
Ben it's not playing, others are just not this one?
@robertveronda4225
@robertveronda4225 8 жыл бұрын
Ben tried again and it works! Internet gremlins!
@desinfector
@desinfector 6 жыл бұрын
so take THIS button, put this as anode into an electrolysis chamber. U will accumulate the copper at the cathode -a piece od stainless steel is enough as kathode and Ull notice the gold as fine dust at the bottom of the container U run the process in.
@MrCcfly
@MrCcfly 5 жыл бұрын
he will go after copper
@DirtMetalRiver
@DirtMetalRiver 8 жыл бұрын
what brand is you heating unit
@dwightgordon9354
@dwightgordon9354 8 жыл бұрын
So if I'm reading the page on how to calculate correctly, this button is about 0.01 Karat. Is that right?
@eWasteBen
@eWasteBen 8 жыл бұрын
no, it's about 1kt
@dwightgordon9354
@dwightgordon9354 8 жыл бұрын
Lol, and that's why I don't do math before coffee.
@TheTorkerman
@TheTorkerman 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben, where did you get this button tested please?
@eWasteBen
@eWasteBen 8 жыл бұрын
Aust' gold dealers
@TheTorkerman
@TheTorkerman 8 жыл бұрын
+eWaste Ben cheers Ben, also, just emailed you pics of stuff I have 😎😎
@philivey1123
@philivey1123 7 жыл бұрын
This must not be a very good way to not lose gold in the process because I have seen people on here get more from just 1 pound of gold fingers and less. I think you lost some gold in the process somewhere. Maybe all that copper took down the karat of your gold. Idk for sure just my thought.
@tbbw
@tbbw 7 жыл бұрын
The only thing i did not like with this challange is no estimates was done to how much that chunk of metal was worth.
@sirfishslayer5100
@sirfishslayer5100 7 жыл бұрын
I calculated it at about $44 in gold...
@tbbw
@tbbw 7 жыл бұрын
Sir FishSlayer thank you for curing my curiosity itch 😊
@lkjasd892dkljasd92
@lkjasd892dkljasd92 7 жыл бұрын
95 gram button. 3.45% of it was Gold (Au) 95 g * .0345 = 3.2775 g Pure (24k) gold is $40 (it fluctuates day-to-day) 3.2775 g * $40/gram = $131.10 This purity requires refining it with the use of chemicals.
@zanpekosak2383
@zanpekosak2383 7 жыл бұрын
He wrote about 140$.
@mnelson10000
@mnelson10000 8 жыл бұрын
So if you were able to separate out the 3 grams of gold, what are you looking at, maybe $100? Doesn't seem worth the effort if you look at it in terms of total man hours... to me, it seems much more practical to sell the whole ram sticks and buy gold with the profit.
@eWasteBen
@eWasteBen 8 жыл бұрын
3g is $120 and there's still gold in the ic chips
@matchuclassic9887
@matchuclassic9887 8 жыл бұрын
How is it not profit? im pretty sure it was all junk that he got for free.
@mnelson10000
@mnelson10000 8 жыл бұрын
MatchuClassicヅ Where did I say it wasn't profit...? I said it didn't look worth the effort. Unskilled laborers probably make more money per hour, lol
@matchuclassic9887
@matchuclassic9887 8 жыл бұрын
mnelson10000 But it is tho, getting a job and getting paid more isn't the point, this is just side money, hes just showing you you can do that with old electronics.
@JohnnySwedishScrapper
@JohnnySwedishScrapper 6 жыл бұрын
i use soldering iron as well, byt ill use acids like hydro and proxide ust to burn the coppar and nikel as much i can , and that make more gold % in it, ita maby ends upp in 14-18 k
@redbeard1066
@redbeard1066 8 жыл бұрын
2g gold?
@eWasteBen
@eWasteBen 8 жыл бұрын
80 grams not 8
@ponkiebonk
@ponkiebonk 6 жыл бұрын
i'm sure you know this now but there are people who use oxidizers to increase burn heat in cruicble and carbonizers to reduce but most people put a linked oxy bottle to the map bottle to increase the burn heat, big question is did you sus out how much zinc / lead/ solder? i hear there's a thermo device to sus out the percents purities, work towards nitric acids at the end just for the gold once you've removed the other crap, i wonder what nickel is worth these days, copper bars sounds fun
@BOMBOVA
@BOMBOVA 8 жыл бұрын
myself, i think the gold content is a little higher, though, i use a weak ten percent nitric solution to clean my foils of a day or two , before firing, just on the colour scale alone, i think here is more gold, an optomist, i will pay you for 4 grams for that piece. cheers
@eWasteBen
@eWasteBen 8 жыл бұрын
I like your optimism but the xrf scanner is quite accurate I think, it's a very expensive xrf machine
@themyceliumnetwork
@themyceliumnetwork 8 жыл бұрын
you can clean off the borax & slag by putting it in a small beaker placing it on a hotplate with some Sulfuric acid & heating it up (not too hot) if it smokes its way to hot Sulfuric acid is super dangerous when its hot !!
@damok9999
@damok9999 8 жыл бұрын
cheaper to just buy it in jewelry making form called pickle solution, you can also put gold plated pins into it and it will eat everything but the gold
@ericchamber1614
@ericchamber1614 8 жыл бұрын
where did you get the Furnace from?
@jordangray5713
@jordangray5713 8 жыл бұрын
would you be willing to sell some of the ram sticks
@eWasteBen
@eWasteBen 8 жыл бұрын
Where are you from?
@jordangray5713
@jordangray5713 8 жыл бұрын
eWaste Ben i live in the u.s Tennessee i would be will to pay shipping and whatever. I really enjoy the hobby. i put my email in the comment above
@ifindmetal
@ifindmetal 4 жыл бұрын
Nitric acid not Hydrochloric. That will strip the base metals and leave the Gold safe
@ΠαναγιωτηςΣαριδακης-υ7υ
@ΠαναγιωτηςΣαριδακης-υ7υ 4 жыл бұрын
AFTER HE MADE THEM FIRST IN THE FIRE AFTER HE PUT IT IN THE MACHINE? THANKS IN ADVANCE
@JReklis
@JReklis 3 жыл бұрын
there are methods of removal using HCL
@jasonsummit1885
@jasonsummit1885 6 жыл бұрын
Just thought i'd mention that you can get it cleaner by letting it sit submerged in a bit of distilled white vinegar for about five minutes then washing it off
@shadowzedge5793
@shadowzedge5793 5 жыл бұрын
How does that work with the vinegar?
@TheNintendobomb
@TheNintendobomb 8 жыл бұрын
whats the melting furnace you use
@lt.punchdrunkington7123
@lt.punchdrunkington7123 6 жыл бұрын
I dont understand... so are gold fingers from RAM actually just copper? Can someone explain please?
@chopppacalamari
@chopppacalamari 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Smith they are copper with gold plating over the top.
@lt.punchdrunkington7123
@lt.punchdrunkington7123 6 жыл бұрын
@@chopppacalamari Oh ok thanks that makes more sense.
@ΠαναγιωτηςΣαριδακης-ω8ν
@ΠαναγιωτηςΣαριδακης-ω8ν 4 жыл бұрын
A question please i have been collecting, gold from tel, palladium silver platinum, ram boards, sailboat, monitor, tv, tablet, do you know a factory where it is made? thank you greece
@indoorkite651
@indoorkite651 6 жыл бұрын
why not then heat it up, and forge it out into a block, or what ever shape so that you can knock off the borax?
@xenaguy01
@xenaguy01 3 жыл бұрын
9:20 That's 2.9325 grams of gold in that button, or 5.865 grams gold in the original kg of foils.
@lifeprepperjoanshort
@lifeprepperjoanshort 7 жыл бұрын
so how much gold do you uselly get from the other way. more or less
@troutgaming5949
@troutgaming5949 8 жыл бұрын
is that crucible steel or graphite?
@eWasteBen
@eWasteBen 8 жыл бұрын
graphite
@Lucky-qm4ki
@Lucky-qm4ki 8 жыл бұрын
What percent of gold in this ingot?
@bantalee2002
@bantalee2002 8 жыл бұрын
3.45 %
@SMOBY44
@SMOBY44 8 жыл бұрын
Try a pointed welding slag hammer.
@eWasteBen
@eWasteBen 8 жыл бұрын
ahh.. good thinking, thanks.
@firstlast-qy6xn
@firstlast-qy6xn 8 жыл бұрын
and how big is your bar form?
@eWasteBen
@eWasteBen 8 жыл бұрын
about an inch & a half wide and just under 1/2 inch thick
@josephplacencia96
@josephplacencia96 6 жыл бұрын
People that respond with cynicism, are not having their own fun.
@joek511
@joek511 5 жыл бұрын
With the foils off you would only have needed about 2 or 3 cups of Acid to remove all the contamination. The ratio is about 6 to 1. In other words, if you had 1 oz of foils use 6 oz of acid. In the end you would have had a button to sell worht about 100 bucks.
@nickh4309
@nickh4309 5 жыл бұрын
He did the test 3% of 85 gram is at least 2 grams of gold . 100 bucks Isent that far off I guess it depends on who your selling too also. I swear i was getting like 60 a gram from a jeweler. But he called it penny weight and I'm not exactly sure what that is
@MrCcfly
@MrCcfly 5 жыл бұрын
@@nickh4309 but after he remove copper he will have -50+$ after and if he get any gold
@Akasha_Silver
@Akasha_Silver 8 жыл бұрын
what brand furnace is that?
@jamesfratner3190
@jamesfratner3190 8 жыл бұрын
wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/220V-3KG-JC-Vertical-Type-Small_60542219696.html
@djmips
@djmips 7 жыл бұрын
you can't burn gold with map gas... gold isn't going to burn right?
@zach3360
@zach3360 7 жыл бұрын
it will turn into gold oxide, which isn't ideal
@zenixfire8030
@zenixfire8030 7 жыл бұрын
Gold oxide is unstable and spontaneously turns back into gold metal
@Himithor
@Himithor 8 жыл бұрын
Good job where can you get a crucible from?
@vipervidsgamingplus5723
@vipervidsgamingplus5723 8 жыл бұрын
Himithor it comes in a lot with the furnace but it can be bought on Amazon as well
@dawnbennett5956
@dawnbennett5956 7 жыл бұрын
You can buy a crucible CHEAP (under $8 on WISH.com (it does take about a month to arrive) Or Ebay for about 10 x's the price of WISH ...but faster
@newtop420schannel8
@newtop420schannel8 8 жыл бұрын
where I can find furnace
@eWasteBen
@eWasteBen 8 жыл бұрын
wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/220V-3KG-JC-Vertical-Type-Small_60542219696.html
@newtop420schannel8
@newtop420schannel8 8 жыл бұрын
thank bro love to see your melt stuff I'm jealous
@ernestpetzrick7741
@ernestpetzrick7741 8 жыл бұрын
What a fun experiment, thank you. I did the math, as did some others. 3.45% of 85 g = 2.93 g of gold.
@sidneyosborne947
@sidneyosborne947 8 жыл бұрын
Ernest Petzrick p
@ΠαναγιωτηςΣαριδακης-ω8ν
@ΠαναγιωτηςΣαριδακης-ω8ν 4 жыл бұрын
I also want such a machine do you know where to find it and how much it costs? Thanks in advance.
@ΠαναγιωτηςΣαριδακης-ω8ν
@ΠαναγιωτηςΣαριδακης-ω8ν 4 жыл бұрын
@@coreyradons7495 I CAN PUT THEM INSIDE THE OVEN THAT ELECTRONIC APPLICATION HAS FUN AND IT CONTAINS DIRECTLY WITHOUT. MEMORIAL DISSOLUTIONS.? THANK YOU FROM THE FIRST WITH THE MACHINERY
@ΠαναγιωτηςΣαριδακης-ω8ν
@ΠαναγιωτηςΣαριδακης-ω8ν 4 жыл бұрын
@@coreyradons7495 DO WE PUT THE METALS INSIDE INSIDE AND THIS MAKES IT? AS METALS FROM ELECTRONICS THAT HAVE A GOLD AS A CLIPKA KA ?
@ΠαναγιωτηςΣαριδακης-ω8ν
@ΠαναγιωτηςΣαριδακης-ω8ν 4 жыл бұрын
@@coreyradons7495 I THANK YOU IN MY HEART AND I WISH YOU HEALTH HAPPINESS AND LOVE
@coreyradons7495
@coreyradons7495 4 жыл бұрын
@@ΠαναγιωτηςΣαριδακης-ω8ν no problem :)
@coreyradons7495
@coreyradons7495 4 жыл бұрын
@@ΠαναγιωτηςΣαριδακης-ω8ν I'm not sure actually
@scottadams3586
@scottadams3586 7 жыл бұрын
thats not a lot of work for 3.5 grms of gold.
@JohnnySwedishScrapper
@JohnnySwedishScrapper 6 жыл бұрын
if u clean the finger in acids first you get rid of more nicel and copper, and that means more space for gold ;)
@55metalmonkey
@55metalmonkey 2 жыл бұрын
If you are trying to get the foils off without harsh acids (HCL/peroxide or nitric acid) salt and vinegar in a small tub with a fish tank bubbler works fine. It takes a few weeks but the actual effort is near zero. Just put the well trimmed fingers in a container (4L would do for that many fingers) add vinegar with some salt, turn on the bubbler and do nothing for a few weeks. The process is slow but the investment is very low. kzbin.info/www/bejne/paa8iJJtYrOdmNU To purify what you have you can do a copper electrolysis removal and be left with mostly gold/silver alloy kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYK2qqCenZ17mbc
@StreetMachine18
@StreetMachine18 6 жыл бұрын
If you use aqua Regia to desolve the gold you would of gotten about 3 grams of pure gold instead of that huge copper button?
@MrCcfly
@MrCcfly 5 жыл бұрын
u will need more $ in that then u get gold ,, ar is only usable if u have loads of scrap ,last time i look it was 2k $ in ar to get 1800$ in gold then they process that gold to get industrial wire (around 10k ) to sell for 2.4-2.6k resulting in gain of 200$ per 50kg processed crap
@wojtekkowal2652
@wojtekkowal2652 Жыл бұрын
So if gold fingers from 500 ram sticks weigt was abot 100gram this mean there is about 3 grams of gold in it .
@hagent5215
@hagent5215 8 жыл бұрын
How much gold did you get from all the ram chips?
@eWasteBen
@eWasteBen 8 жыл бұрын
I haven;t done the chips yet, saving them up until i'm ready to refine
@hagent5215
@hagent5215 8 жыл бұрын
Then you are only 1/2 way done with your 1000 ram stick challenge! :) By the way, what is the best way to recover gold from the Intel E8500 CPU ? There are no pins on this type. I have 59 of them and wanted to see how much gold I can get. Cheers!
@vladyslavpopovych3800
@vladyslavpopovych3800 8 жыл бұрын
I think to judge the content of% can be when you have the final result, an ingot of pure gold.
@wayneschoeberl9531
@wayneschoeberl9531 8 жыл бұрын
You could reverse plating it with salt water and a car battery, it take a few hours, but be careful lose the gold, so use anti static spay for clothing to drop gold to bottom, before pouring salt water off slow and careful, then melt sludge.
@mistyholbrook5776
@mistyholbrook5776 7 жыл бұрын
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