Because of the no placement limit, I feel like Golden Minigunner is only better in solo, meanwhile Accelerator is better with more people. However, I feel Golden Minigunner is more reliable due to not having to charge up all the time and having a more consistent dps.
@sneakydv97 Жыл бұрын
i was soloing the winter event and i found accelerator was much better and had a guaranteed win but when i used g mini i barely killed the boss sometimes
@YourAverageSpeedrunner Жыл бұрын
@@sneakydv97I kinda doubt that, mini with commander is 200 dps, and assuming you have 4 mortars, and a dj, that’s 32 minis you can place. 32x200, equals to 6400 dps. You definitely did something wrong
@AFnECRtDFtdd Жыл бұрын
@@sneakydv97 you probably did something wrong
@laisksjjsjs566 Жыл бұрын
@YourAverageSpeedrunner you gotta count the stuns, the enemy spawns, the boss heal, the fact that you can't have 32 minis attacking at once because of placement issues. Usually, accelerator is much better for the EVENT in solo.
@animosity3771 Жыл бұрын
yall gotta lock in bro
@ShxdowVIII Жыл бұрын
Overall, Golden Minigunner has always been my solid pick. Accelerators are not reliable as they never target the ''first enemy''. The Accelerator has a built in code which when it starts attacking something, it will not stop until the enemy its attacking has died meaning other enemies can sneak through due to accelerators unreliability. Golden Minigunner will always attack the first enemy and overall has a higher dps ceiling. Only downside is Golden Mini can be MUCH harder to get as its one of the 6 gold skins costing a grand total of 50,000 coins giving you a 16% chance of obtaining it. Then again, Accelerator has a much higher potential when it comes to lower placement limits. Use Golden Mini for solo and duo, Accelerator for trio and squad. Simple.
@sage-rx5pb Жыл бұрын
how long did you take to type this
@Scott-bn2vn Жыл бұрын
Overall, Accelerator is better cause Accelerators are reliable as they always target the ''first enemy''. The Accelerator has a built in code which when it starts attacking something, it will give more damage if the enemy is weak and gives coins. Golden Minigunner will never attack the first enemy and overall has a lower dps ceiling. Only upside for Golden Mini is it can be MUCH harder and rarer as it is first to appear, to get as its one of the 6 gold skins costing a grand total of 50,000 coins, still giving you a 1% chance of obtaining it. Then again, Accelerator has a WAY HIGHER potential when it comes to no placement limits. Do not use Golden Mini for any situation, and use Accelerator for solo, duo, trio and squad. Simple.
@C4TB0T Жыл бұрын
the accelator targettign almot made me die from glitches in fallen but i still feel accel is better due to the large amounts of damage in can do in just ll 3 wwhich could alone get u up to wave 24 in fALLEN
@Jayden-um7td Жыл бұрын
You copied the main comment but reversed it bruh @@Scott-bn2vn
@Average_dumb_guy Жыл бұрын
@@Scott-bn2vn half of the information you just said is incorrect and you also just copied the comment but reversed it
@EJTheUploader Жыл бұрын
I get one person doesn’t mean that much, but man! Your commentary is GOLDEN, your video ideas are great, and your upload schedule pretty decent, just know, your videos are great and you deserve every single subscriber you have!
@TheRaven8339 ай бұрын
Honestly this is so true. I'm happy that he got his own TDS skin.
@pupucover6 ай бұрын
Heh literally
@TheRaven8336 ай бұрын
So true👍
@cckgamers91745 ай бұрын
I he deserves more the other yt i likes all have moree subs he is honestly better then them
@Pineapple34310 ай бұрын
even though its not related to this topic, a way to have better ratio for farming is by stopping at level 3 to defend, or just wait to skip to level 5 because level 4 is not a really good use of money
@ThatOneFlannelFellow Жыл бұрын
I believe a way of balancing hardcore towers like accelerator is by giving them a unique ability each at max level. This adds to the uniqueness of hardcore towers and can create new playstyles. Likewise, accel could get an overcharge ability where when activated causes the accelerator to charge a very powerful attack and store it. The player could press the charged ability (indicated by an electricity icon) and release an extremely powerful attack. This could either be a large splash attack that leaves an electrified part of the path temporarily or a beam that can do chain damage. Or it could simply be an increase to the max charge maybe temporarily doubling it to 6000 and increasing the damage to 100. These were just some simple ideas I came up with on the fly, overall I think accelerator could benefit with an aoe ability to deal with crowds better. Either way, I think that hc towers could be improved upon being given a unique ability at max level.
@SSG-Edits Жыл бұрын
And as for engineer, I believe it could have some kind of sentry boost. Where the engineer tower matches its best unlocked sentry. So now it’s with the dos of 4 sentries.
@WeltztyHed Жыл бұрын
or the engineer could build a giant turret that deals 50 damage and 250 damage missiles (7 burst per 30 second)@@SSG-Edits
@TooMuch2Work Жыл бұрын
I aint reading allat
@Y_o_r_u Жыл бұрын
Hes wanting the dev to add special abilities to hardcore tower at last lv@@TooMuch2Work
@ProfessionalNoLifer Жыл бұрын
That would make Accelerator way to over powered and give every other Dps tower no purpose at all once you get your hands on it.
@Quacksifyy Жыл бұрын
I prefer Gmini since It's cheaper to place and is good in (most) game modes. You also have to take into account that Gmini costs less to upgrade meaning that it won't have as much DPS as accel, however both are still solid DPS towers especially for fallen runs solo or not.
@RareBulboMSM11 ай бұрын
Yea, if ur farming in pizza party scout is no problem because of g mini, sense its cheaper
@Chaseleep11 ай бұрын
what if ur in a trio or quad u wont be able to put like any
@Quacksifyy11 ай бұрын
if everyone brings it your actually placing more then the cap of 40. I'm pretty sure its 80 which mean you're practically doubling your DPS (excluding supports + farms) but yes that is a fair point because if only you bring it then the DPS won't be as much per say in solo or duo.@@Chaseleep
@basskit_11 ай бұрын
You actually only need 18 gminis to outperform 8 accelerators, meaning gmini is still better in quad @@Chaseleep
@pandidapanda10 ай бұрын
@@basskit_ that's 72 golden minigunners and you won't have enough space so accel is better in quad
@therealwynnz Жыл бұрын
Accelerator: Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary!
@encrypted2558 Жыл бұрын
it really wont
@habibixx3251 Жыл бұрын
@@encrypted2558yeah we kinda know accelerator has abit more range and alot more dps
@iamyourmaster2565 Жыл бұрын
@@habibixx3251turned out golden mini did better due to targeting, faster charge up time, and mainly placement.
@iamyourmaster2565 Жыл бұрын
And placement limit.
@Jsen-q4h Жыл бұрын
The battle will truly be legendary
@aryanhossain7380 Жыл бұрын
Introduction: Which tower is better, Golden Minigunner or Accelerator? Aim: To see which tower will do better against Fallen mode. Hypothesis: Both of these are high dps towers - Accelerator has higher dps whereas Golden Minigunner doesn’t have a placement limit. Both of these towers will be able to defeat the Fallen King. Materials: Farm, Golden Cowboy, Golden Minigunner/Accelerator, Commander and DJ. Method: Use Farm for income, Golden Cowboy for early game + income, Golden Minigunner/Accelerator for main mid - late game dps, Commander to increase dps, and DJ to increase range and decrease prices of upgrades. Results: With Golden Minigunner, Fallen King got into the base with 7738 hp, ending the game. With Accelerator, Fallen King summoned a swarm of Fallens near the end. The Fallens got into the base with nearly full hp, ending the game, and Fallen King had 63450 hp remaining. Although neither towers were able to defeat the Fallen King, Golden Minigunner got the Fallen King down to lower hp than the Accelerator. Therefore, Golden Minigunner did better. Discussion: Both towers were able to get the Fallen King down to below half hp. Early Game, Accelerator did very well, due to its great cost efficiency (for levels 2 and onwards, you’re paying less than $200 for every 1 DPS!) The Golden Minigunner wasn’t used much early game, but one level 2 Golden Minigunner was placed. It didn’t seem to do as much as the Accelerator, as, at level 2, the Golden Minigunner isn’t very cost efficient. However, later on, the Golden Minigunner was able to do more damage than the accelerator, despite being less cost efficient than the Accelerator at max level. This is because the Accelerator has a placement limit and a lock-on system. Since the Accelerator has a placement limit of 8, unlike the Golden Minigunner, this meant that the 40 placement limit in a solo game couldn’t be utilised, and Golden Cowboy had to be used late game, a tower that doesn’t have very high dps at max level. Furthermore, the Accelerator’s lock-on system meant that, while weaker enemies would get close to the base, the Accelerator would be busy dealing damage to enemies with high health. Fortunately, the Golden Cowboys were able to kill the enemies that the Accelerators weren’t targeting, but this meant that 8 Accelerators and some support could not be solely relied on as much as Golden Minigunners when playing Fallen mode on a difficult map. Conclusion: From this video, you can conclude that Golden Minigunner does better on a difficult map on Fallen mode than Accelerator. You can also conclude that Fallen King LOVES stun abusing.
@Rackzq Жыл бұрын
Great Job and Anaylsis
@Okayguysyususu Жыл бұрын
bro accel and gm both can kill fallen king on that map its just elite being absolute garbage at the game LOL
@kaspex7496 Жыл бұрын
@@Okayguysyususu XD
@crizblu6615 Жыл бұрын
The fallen king did a stun and summon combo for accel’s run…
@Rackzq Жыл бұрын
@@Okayguysyususu you dont have to be that mean bro. lets see you do it youself
@mischievous1174 Жыл бұрын
This is something I have been thinking about for a long time
@KayraWasTaken Жыл бұрын
just a fun thing, you should do a "USE CODE E" thing whenever you click commander since its ability also says E
@Axcell246 Жыл бұрын
I personally would pick accel over gold mini, without commander accel still has a solid preformance but let’s be real every player should have commander in their loadout, and considering one accel can solo molten and one mini can’t. But mini is cheaper, also better targeting, although 8 accels is cheaper and I did some math, 1 accel is 4 g minis with commander and 4 g minis is more expensive so 8 accels = 32 g minis and 8 accels is cheaper than 32 minis and better dps per cost ratio, because accel has a smaller placement limit you have have some supports and sub dps which makes accel more reliable but g mini needs multiple to be good (no hate for mini but I prefer accel in most situations)
@noway2777 Жыл бұрын
thx for doing da math
@kyledaniell879 Жыл бұрын
g mini does sooo much better in everything bro... ofc u need a lot there no placement limit but they are cheap and dont have the worst targeting in the game and they dont have a fuel tank that runs out
@purpleduckbee Жыл бұрын
32g mini is not equal to 8 accel. if you did the dps without including the charge up time and cooldown its a little over 3.57 g mini. after including charge up and cooldown its ~2.21. this means it's closer to 17-18 g mini. that almost 1/2 as much as you said. also the cost efficacy is worse on accel from level 2-5 then g mini level 2-4
@OddOof Жыл бұрын
@@kyledaniell879get help
@Nenulapiece Жыл бұрын
The thing about comparing those towers is,getting accel is 2 times faster than g mini,and only if you have g scout to speedrun molten solo under 13 minutes(with accel) it still takes 19 hours to get one g crate from 0 coins while getting accel takes around 12 hours with losing at 22 wave
@OneFirePhoenix Жыл бұрын
I like Accelerator more. It's heavier price and charge/cooldown are out-weighed by the crazy amounts of DPS. Sure, 40 Golden Minigunners do more DPS than 8 Accelerators, but that is if you GET 40 G. Minis- and you are gonna want support, like DJ or Commander, maybe other things. Also, one max Accelerator has around 2.5x the DPS of one max Golden Minigunner. Also, I have to say- You have to beat Hardcore Mode around 8-9 times to get Accelerator, which is around 320-360 minutes, aka around 5-6 hours. Golden Minigunner requires 50 thousand coins, and the best way to get a G. Crate is Pizza Party. You get around 1000 coins per win. A G. Crate costs 50 thousand. That means, you'd have to beat Pizza Party around 50 TIMES! THAT'S 650 MINUTES, OR 10 HOURS! AND ALSO, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE FACT YOU MIGHT GET ANOTHER GOLDEN SKIN?! THEN YOU'D HAVE TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN! And that means, to get all 6 Golden Skins, WOULD TAKE 60 HOURS! THAT IS 30 TIMES MORE THAN ACCELERATOR! So yeah I'm done rambling.
@basskit_ Жыл бұрын
20 gold minigunners do more DPS than 8 accelerators
@animosity3771 Жыл бұрын
just p2w
@therealwynnz Жыл бұрын
I ain’t reading allat 💀
@SharkyGamingYT. Жыл бұрын
Then dont comment easy@@therealwynnz
@radekjeborec5721 Жыл бұрын
You mostly won't have 20 minis unless you are in solo@@basskit_
@supersmiley5587 Жыл бұрын
Accel is situationally way better than mini. For example: if you only have accel in the krampus event. You will die to evil elves. Kramp has just too much hp, stuns too much, and the lock on feature is the downfall of accelerator. With golden minigunner you will take longer but eventually you will kill krampus. So, if you want to shred a boss. Use a combination of gmini and accel. They are both extremley op but you CANNOT say that one is better than the other. Its the same like saying that engi is trash and accel is way better. Its not. Sometimes engi IS better than accel. But sometimes accel is better than engi. You cannot say that one tower is supreme and is way better than any other tower in the entire game. Even admin tower need some legit towers to be strong. Comparing only the dps and ignoring the lockon feature, overload, stun immunity, range, price etc. Is completley inappropriate. You would need hundreds upon hundreds of games with each tower to have a small idea of what is generally better. Both accel and mini are good. Hell even normal mini CAN be better than golden mini.
@jadennguyen2852 Жыл бұрын
there are so little areas where engi is better than accel that you might as well not have included that. cost efficiency is probably what everyone uses along with dps to determine the strength of the tower.
@MichaelYi-dp1ni Жыл бұрын
overall, g mini has slightly reliability than accel imo due to how accel has overcharge and is not very consistent in terms of dps and also it does not get many range upgrades unlike g mini but accel does have better cost effeciency
@TheGreenMonkey-ly9oy9 ай бұрын
I mainly like to use both, since golden minigunner. takes over for a while accelerator is recharging.
@yoshihunter17499 ай бұрын
@@TheGreenMonkey-ly9oyonly issue with using both is you only really get 1 support due to needing farm and a early
@nightwoo_7 ай бұрын
accel has more range..?
@MangoGalaxyYT5 ай бұрын
@@yoshihunter1749golden cowboy could be an option, or if you have enough hp you could tank and try getting a g mini as early as possible. But that requires you to be REALLY high level.
@pyrogaming5935 Жыл бұрын
I think that accelerator is better in most situations especially with more players. Golden mini has no placement limit which makes it great if you have the money and tower limit to use it, but by the time you start to have higher dps with the golden minis’, accelerator will be cheaper at that point. However, accelerator requires additional towers since its targetting is very bad, so mini has an edge in that category. Both towers are good however I find accelerator more viable with more players, on harder modes, and especially for speedrunning imo. Also golden minigunner plus accelerator is also a powerful combo to use if you have the money.
@kyledaniell879 Жыл бұрын
mini is way better in like every scenario except quad
@The_Mistake Жыл бұрын
Nah in trio it's still bad trust me and in duo you better get accel with engi combo or pursuit Overall g.mini Is only good in solo and pizza party other than that its gonna be good secondary dps
@zaipollizamabdulmalek582211 ай бұрын
@BrutalCarCrashes009 i would still recommended accel more then mini since is still a lot cheaper to set up 8 max accel for each player.
@nemoeditz694209 ай бұрын
@@zaipollizamabdulmalek5822@ 8 max accels cost 400k, and 18 gminis are better then 8 accels, mini costs 22k to max so 22k x 18k= 396k, it's only by 4k but gmini is cheaper, so in a small map accel is better, in big maps where you can place alot of units, for example four seasons, in those maps gmini is better
@ReginTD Жыл бұрын
You only need cowboy for early game if you have max farms just sell all cowboys and spam max accels 8 max farms are enough to max out your defence before wave 40
@000coolkid9 Жыл бұрын
For real he’s so annoying wit spamming cowboys I’m tryna see what accel and mini can do but I can’t rlly see because his dumbass is paring it up wijt cowboy
@000coolkid9 Жыл бұрын
For real he’s so annoying wit spamming cowboys I’m tryna see what accel and mini can do but I can’t rlly see because his dumbass is paring it up wijt cowboy
@SomeRandomDude-yc5mj8 ай бұрын
When bro said 400 dps for g mini i was about to pay $200 dollars worth of coins lol
@Grave_Digger-thegreatest9 ай бұрын
G mini either cost 55k if you gkt the tower itself pre rework and 58k if you got it post rework
@vladsoloshchenko55516 ай бұрын
Golden crook boss: Golden soldier: Golden scout:
@terraworth4 ай бұрын
Both are needed. Gmini for duo solo accel for trio quads. In elites video you wolud use Gmini considring in solo you have a placement limit of 40 and in duo 30. However trio and quads you wont have enough space for 30 or 40 Gminis. So you use accel so you can have space for airsupp,commander/dj,early def (even tho you wont need it in later waves)farm,etc. So get both.
@promango54873 ай бұрын
as of the time im watching g mini got a massive buff! W vid btw. keep it up elite!
@InterfX18 ай бұрын
i would defo say golden minigunner is better, heres why: golden minigunner is heavily affected by commanders buff unlike accelerator and its quite cheap for its high dps. Golden minigunner is also a lot more reliable because of no recharge and the constant damage is just a lot better. It has no placement limit so the dps adds up to more than accelerator in the end, and even when trio'ing its good because it can be used as extra dps and golden minigunner doesnt have accelerators stupid targeting.
@kyledaniell879 Жыл бұрын
Just to say in solo with all 3 commanders and DJ u can only place 36 g minis all maxed which does a total of like 7.2k dps while accel can only do around half that which is 3.6k dps is why mini preformed a lot better and also mini doesn't need to charge and doesn't have a damage cap but as we get into duo mini is still better but in trio its quite fair quad though accel beats mini not by much though so golden mini is a lot better accel also has its annoying targeting that everyone knows about. So in my opinion g mini is way better than accelerator due to price, placement limit, reliability and dps.
@alexgabi5607 Жыл бұрын
6.5k around for accel
@mageninjaballer1449 Жыл бұрын
Accel is better for cost efficiency
@sabasaed620 Жыл бұрын
in solo that is
@EGVentures930 Жыл бұрын
I think (I just think) that you could win with the minis if you maxed the commanders, they were able to make the minigunners shoot faster and kill the fallen king if it had like how little it had, like 8.000 HP, also the commanders had more range so… Anyways you get the point.😅
@spidermooncake55638 ай бұрын
No just play on a easier map
@RandpanYT1 Жыл бұрын
Yo, love to see the channel again
@royalwiz Жыл бұрын
An Accel does more DPS than a Golden Mini but due to its need to charge up and cool down, it is less consistent(also the varying DPS) but The Accel's Targetting System is kinda stupid, It will lock onto an enemy and will not stop attacking it(or switch targets) unless it either gets out of its range or dies. The Golden Mini on the other hand is much more spammable, consistent and more reliable and cheaper i think.
@samuelrebelo9301 Жыл бұрын
Its damage no longer fluctuates, its constant.
@royalwiz Жыл бұрын
@@samuelrebelo9301 Oh I did not know that, Was that 'Feature' Intended or was it a Bug?
@crizblu6615 Жыл бұрын
@@royalwizit was accelerator’s main mechanic besides the charge up and cooldown before the rework where it switched from time overcharge to damage overcharge
@jadennguyen2852 Жыл бұрын
@@royalwiz it was from the original coding for the tower, it was supposed to be more like phaser from tb, where the damage would increase overtime, but it was changed to a charge up burst tower. the rework removed that feature since the tower code was changed.
@GCommenterIZI Жыл бұрын
I don't know if it's a solo thing or not or can we appreciate that he placed 4 commanders at 13:39
@Plush1325 ай бұрын
Gmini not only rely on 0 placememt limit, but he also can get fully buffed by merc base and commander
@alekzazza3337 Жыл бұрын
"Minimum price of 58k" me who spent over 200k in golden crates and still doesn't have it:
@Christian-rz1oz Жыл бұрын
He placed both towers in shitty places/shitty placements and thats why he died to the fallen king, i wouldve placed them more to the back so the other things like fallens or Fallen guardians wouldnt even be a problem and he also picked some if the worst towers for backup, he didnt even max all cowboys and instead left the Accells and Golden mini's in their place without selling and replacing them thinkong they could just solo the fallen king
@super_dude00 Жыл бұрын
due to the game naturally being multiplayer-based, accelerator comes out as the better tower like 90% of the time, because the one big thing gmini has over accel is not having a placement limit, which hardly makes a difference EXCEPT in solo
@loveallmyfriendsalot Жыл бұрын
Gold mini lost to the fallen king because most of the g minis were attacking the giant boss for some reason and they got mass stunned
@unostudgames Жыл бұрын
The Ultimate 1v1, Gold Mini VS Accelerator (Also accelerator sucked after they added the damage cap in a single burst instead of the just 8 second timer burst)
@ThatOneTechy Жыл бұрын
It Gained DPS that Update. Alot of DPS, and it no longers wastes damage (or has random damage)
@unostudgames Жыл бұрын
@@ThatOneTechy I understand what you are saying, however, the accelerator got its damage buff in Christmas 2022 when the accelerator got the rework in April 2023.
@Ipopbubbles Жыл бұрын
For anyone who doesn’t want to watch the whole video, basically gold minigunner won. The reason gold mini won is because it has no placement limit, no charge up, and has better targeting than accel. Accel lost because it has a placement limit, charge up, and bad targeting. Accel is good for events / modes like Badlands, polluted, etc. Gold minigunner is good for coin grinding or just solo queing.
@mjandgecko3278 Жыл бұрын
This is 10 times better than your last video. Good job elite but you choose a terrible map. What were you thinking but good video.
@WheelsonEels3 ай бұрын
Bro why do you sound just like the youtuber MyUsernameThis
@DuskDaProphet Жыл бұрын
I think Accel is good with towers like Pursuit or Engineer who can change targeting while also having high dps. I use Engi with Accel (plus supports and farms) to solo hardcore and i do really well. Golden Mini can change targeting but when it does, a lot of focus damage gets off of the original target. Golden Mini is hard to micro effectively while Accel can micro easily and effectively. I think Accel wins overall.
@gapp.y Жыл бұрын
no, you are forgetting about the charge up, not to mention the price to place pursuit and engineer and to upgrade them. along with that pursuits targeting locks on just like accel and accel lets enemies get past. engineer sucks until the last upgrade. also, the sentries dont have hidden detection.
@tata1e2e3 Жыл бұрын
Accelerator is better for trio or quads and golden mini is better or solo or duo. If you can pair them up, you get like the most dps possible with the golden mini negating the accelerator's placement limit of 8 and semi unreliable targeting and the accel doing the dps
@Official_HolidayAccelerator7 ай бұрын
Golden minis also dont just lock onto one enemy till its dead which is very usefull incase of any leaks
@SazidKhan-w2y9 ай бұрын
Tank boss:hehe ur toast Golden miniguner:you shall no longer exist
@sickothem58699 ай бұрын
Golden mini gunner may be better for early and mid game while Accelerator easily wins late game. Golden mini gunner also has no placement limit which means you can just place extra after you are done with Accelerator
@bjanimates Жыл бұрын
Golden Mini Is Good, But Not Great In Quad. Accel Is Good, But Not Great In Solo, Since You Can Only Place About 8 And Having A Tower That You Can Spam (Like The Golden Mini) Is Great For Solo Since You Can Spam It And Get More Dps Out Of It. But Overall? Just Use Accel. Just Use Other Towers With Accel Because I Don't Think You Would Wanna Spam 40 g minis lol.
@viotall Жыл бұрын
tbh, that wasn't really a fair comparison because you didn't directly compare them in terms of dps, range, placement, solo capabilities, multiplayer capabilities and pretty much just played 1 game with mini and 1 game with accel and gave a pretty vague conclusion and also you chose an old map which doesn't show how they perform on 90% of maps in the game. No hate but i feel like I didn't get any relevant info on which one is actually better in different situations
@Scott-bn2vn Жыл бұрын
Overall, Accelerator is better cause Accelerators are reliable as they always target the ''first enemy''. The Accelerator has a built in code which when it starts attacking something, it will give more damage if the enemy is weak and gives coins. Golden Minigunner will never attack the first enemy and overall has a lower dps ceiling. Only upside for Golden Mini is it can be MUCH harder and rarer as it is first to appear, to get as its one of the 6 gold skins costing a grand total of 50,000 coins, still giving you a 1% chance of obtaining it. Then again, Accelerator has a WAY HIGHER potential when it comes to no placement limits. Do not use Golden Mini for any situation, and use Accelerator for solo, duo, trio and squad. Simple.
@anuarmdisa1671 Жыл бұрын
Bro you literally saying the opposite of them accel never targets the first enemy your just so dumb gmini actually attacks the first enemy and accel has a enemy. Lock and will remain shooting the same enemy and you literally are overrating accel by saying the opposite of whats right
@Onlyonesnack9 ай бұрын
1% you got to be smoking something
@Onlyonesnack9 ай бұрын
And accel has a placement limit of 8 gold mini doesnt have one
@henrikozjek Жыл бұрын
Elite said at the start, the golden mini cost 58000$, but that’s a lie, due to the other golden skins. I‘ve spent 200000$ and still no golden mini, so you have to be really lucky to get it at start, think at least of 100000$.
@terddegamer21807 ай бұрын
On a pizza party match i met a complete narcissist saying accel was better than mini and then he acted like a fucking toddler havign a tantrum when i gave him valid criticism about his accel and then he sold all of his accels saying "you need me"
@Noorinhoo9 ай бұрын
If u use accel right it can solo fallen everytime but u just dont know how to do it (no hate)
@Epicz_Xd36 Жыл бұрын
In a robux scale 1 robux = 10 coin 1 robux = 1 gem So Accel cost is actually 25000 coin And G mini cost is 50000 coin So G mini is 200% more expensive, but to be sure we need to look at grinding time 2500 gem is like 8-12 hours by not thriumph and 4-7 hours thriump grinding with no life 50000 coins is like 13-16 grinding with no life..BUT NO GUARANTEE CHANCE OF GETTING GMINI what if guarantee chance?🤔 Daily skin= 75000 is 15-20 and you have to wait💀 So I will say that both is good on their ways
@budinskee210 ай бұрын
My golden minigunner doesnt show the golden stuff around it
@TemperXx11 ай бұрын
They really need to buff golden towers... There's literally no point in grinding for golden crate if accelerator is only 20 dollars while golden crates are 50 dollars and even then you're not always gonna get golden minigunner.
@chanpreetjack19 ай бұрын
People always assume that Gmini is better for solo but I think accel is better i all modes/situations. You can place down 40 gminis which is only useful in PW2 and Badlands (And hardcore). 40 gminis in solo molten/fallen is nearly impossible.
@Nowt1177 ай бұрын
G mini is way better Tham accel in solo fallen, it's more reliable and no placement
@Gunslinger832 Жыл бұрын
Accelerator🤝Golden Minigunner🤝Jester🤝Gladiator
@Gunslinger8328 ай бұрын
paintballer solos all
@thebiggestnpcgamer Жыл бұрын
if u place 36 minigunners in total the mini will have 2376 more dps than 8 accelerators. so the mini is far so much better
@ilikewoIves9 ай бұрын
uhh im not sure about that math, BUT, golden mini has around the same cost efficency as accel (as in 2.1 or something gold minis have the same damage and cost as 1 accel) and you can get 24+ G minis in 1 game of solo molten/fallen(or norm-) and even more cuz you don't need 16 supports sooo, yeah G mini is better than accel IN solo/duo.
@16cyborg7 ай бұрын
Cool video. Can you make an engi vs accel vid too?
@artipchelaX6 ай бұрын
I think get G mini is harder because the G case costs 50k coins and you cant get mini with 100% chance from it
@TheOneAndOnlyAbbieFromFPE Жыл бұрын
"This thing does more than 20 dps and is more than half the price but it also makes me money so..." my brother in christ,we are talking about golden minigunner not cowboy making money 💀 ☠ 💀 ☠
@DavidMaurer-gq9cz9 ай бұрын
For soloing things like molten i found that accel works better and faster than g mini, But g mini is more useful in multiplayer and events
@adityabiswas7912 Жыл бұрын
8 Accelerators make up the dps of 17 gminis so if you can place 17+ gminis than gmini is better.
@Un_forgotton7 ай бұрын
A simple Sum of my opinion, Accel: Great for playing with others for special rounds, and normal modes. Gold Mini: A great alternative for others who cant get accel, due to the great dps and the no placement limit!
@Beanman87 Жыл бұрын
the only reason on why g mini died to fallen king was because he decided to place his defense all the way at the back so the fallen king was able to take its time walking to the end along with the guards
@Scott-bn2vn Жыл бұрын
Overall, Accelerator is better cause Accelerators are reliable as they always target the ''first enemy''. The Accelerator has a built in code which when it starts attacking something, it will give more damage if the enemy is weak and gives coins. Golden Minigunner will never attack the first enemy and overall has a lower dps ceiling. Only upside for Golden Mini is it can be MUCH harder and rarer as it is first to appear, to get as its one of the 6 gold skins costing a grand total of 50,000 coins, still giving you a 1% chance of obtaining it. Then again, Accelerator has a WAY HIGHER potential when it comes to no placement limits. Do not use Golden Mini for any situation, and use Accelerator for solo, duo, trio and squad. Simple.
@MichealSmith11-38 ай бұрын
Golden accelerator : "not existed"
@Vexetharius Жыл бұрын
Overall, I think Golden Mini is better due to its reliability and consistent DPS, with its only con being that it’s isn’t as good in quads and is only good in solo matches as it doesn’t have a placement limit and you can only place 20 towers in a quad match, making the only towers only Golden Mini’s restricts any other towers like commander or DJ. Accelerator is better in quads but has inconsistent DPS due to it having to rev up its gun for 5 whole years.
@SSG-Edits Жыл бұрын
It took my dad 5 years to leave! 😊
@Vexetharius Жыл бұрын
@@SSG-Edits :D
@NoGearV2 Жыл бұрын
As someone who has both, I see this as an absolute win
@sal_acho Жыл бұрын
Bro, accelerator came out in 2020 and the targetting is still shit
@Nachos_Ssoul.. Жыл бұрын
Real Also how and why i unintentionally got 2 golden crate on my alt and i got two best early game tower which is golden pyro and golden scout lol Also i think they capped the minigunner firerate because golden minigunner with commander ability would give the minigunner like 400+dps
@DrumGPearl3 ай бұрын
Sadly gold mini have a placement limit now, but it is pretty high (15) witch even without commander has more dps then accelerator with commander Edit: the dps of one minigunner is now 240 (24 every .1 second so correct me if I’m wrong) witch with all 15 is 3,600 dps without commander.
@oscaritajohnsonota24205 ай бұрын
you sound like an american version of that one australian gta youtuber I think his name is DarkDragonAu
@Vastralix Жыл бұрын
Dang Turret last upgrade is as same as last upgrade on accel is crazy Idk why ranger last upgrade is so expensive
@5uspicious_Person Жыл бұрын
Let's look at the shop. Accelerator costs 2,000 robux. Meanwhile, Golden Minigunner could cost 4250 robux if you were fortunate and 25,500 robux if you were misfortunate. So let's say you don't have any kind of fortune and it costs ~14,875 robux. No matter how OP Golden Minigunner is, there's no way it's worth 7 times more than accelerator. And I know what you're thinking, which is that it can be bought for 75,000 coins in the daily store. However, are you seriously going to do that? Getting all golden skins would now require 325,000 coins instead of the usual 300,000 coins. It's a short-term gain, and a long-term loss.
@caydenwang196 Жыл бұрын
can you test hardcore whIch unit is better?
@chrismatthews8625 Жыл бұрын
Rank all towers in the pls?:)
@tornado345 Жыл бұрын
once, in a polluted wastelands game we had all accels in late game but no other towers like engineer, we had supports and stuff but accels STUPID TARGETTING MADE US LOSE WHEN NUCLEAR M\ONSTER HAD 2K HEALTH he summoned a shadow boss
@NormalyPurple Жыл бұрын
Elite can u do some bedwars?
@ThatOneTechy Жыл бұрын
Cost Efficiency becomes less important the more "Late game" the tower is, Yes level 5 accel isnt as Cost Effecient as Multipul Level 3's but multipul levels 3's arnt killing the amalgamation are they?
@white1799 Жыл бұрын
Honestly accelerator is better for my opinion because in terms of faster kill time accelerator takes it and in terms of reliability accelerator also takes it if you know how to use it with commander, most people use the reason they leak because of accelerator and thats because you use it irresponsibly the best way to abuse accels kill time is to spam lvl 3 accels and use coa and boom leaks are fixed and also accelerator is way easier to grind as it takes only a few hours or days to get it since grinding gems isnt that hard, Golden minigunner on the other hand takes a few days and u only have a 16% percent chance of getting it although g mini is wayy easier to use even with no coa its useful asf and is cheaper than accelerator is however its availability is what sets it apart from accelerator and accelerator is used in most strats as it is the HIGHEST DPS tower in the entire game other from the engineer of course, now for which is better in my opinion is really accelerator its got dps, cost to damage ratio with lvl 3 being op and its availability and reliability feel free to argue with me in the replies if u want.
@ezplaygamer Жыл бұрын
Old accel use to be able to solo but now well yea
@Mr.Hippopotamus Жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, when you have max placement limit with the minis and lots of money to spare, why didn’t you upgrade the commanders?
@Misosoup456 Жыл бұрын
A max commander only give 10% extra firerate buff (compared to a lvl2) for around 11600 extra cash (with DJ) so maybe he thought a max commander wasnt necessary
@Mr.Hippopotamus Жыл бұрын
@@Misosoup456 thx, I kinda knew but it’s just he might as well do it if he has lots of money to spare. K fact he might have won if he did no idk
@WHITE-ws5wk Жыл бұрын
It’s simple: Lvl 3-4 Commander simply increases the “Passive Firerate” of towers and not from “Call to Arms” ability. So unless you need the extra range (or damage, if you think 5 extra dps is going to do anything) then there’s simply no reason to buy more than one.
@Mr.Hippopotamus Жыл бұрын
@@WHITE-ws5wk Alr ty
@azurive Жыл бұрын
Ngl.. I think combining both of them is best and sacrificing dj for the slot.
@coelhogames7264 Жыл бұрын
To be honest it depends on the person and layout, if used g scout or something better probaly accel would kill, it depends more on the player than the tower itself
@jadennguyen2852 Жыл бұрын
g cowboy has more dps than g scout
@coelhogames7264 Жыл бұрын
@@jadennguyen2852 g scout has more consistency on the early game so you can farm
@jadennguyen2852 Жыл бұрын
@@coelhogames7264 farming wasn't a problem. the issue was the fallen king didn't die, meaning lack of dps. gs would only make the results worse.
@coelhogames7264 Жыл бұрын
@@jadennguyen2852 to be honest you could do it, just need to know how to use it
@jadennguyen2852 Жыл бұрын
@@coelhogames7264 you just spam them in optimized spots. thats "how you use it".
@LuigiAiello-fc8nc4 ай бұрын
Something, you should retry again with accel and golden mini. They will both win, you just got bad rng. Accel is still better, you just got a worse rng with accel than with g mini, he would’ve shredded
@IDontKnowWhatDoICallThisSoYes Жыл бұрын
Accel and gmini is equally good, accel has a crazy huge dps which is 500 (idk how its 230+ but since 0.1 atk speed and 50 dmg, ill say it has 500 dps) but it has a placement limit which is 8, and an overcharging thing. Gmini, has smaller dps than accel but no placement limit and has no overcharging or overheating thing Idk anymore
@kaitheguy55296 ай бұрын
Nah that accel run rng was HORRENDOUS, the spawns were devious and these stomps stunned everything, accel > gmini
@nub1851 Жыл бұрын
use accel in multiplayer. use mini in solo or duo (duo in spacious maps) as it takes up too much space and is worse in midgame.
@KarlaFaulk6 ай бұрын
You forgot one thing the only reason accel lost was because the fallen king summoned unlike in the g mini round
@fariduddin9431 Жыл бұрын
That’s not golden mini that’s plushy mini
@harveydenham30198 ай бұрын
You can add the gold effect with any skin
@DaCesar.11 ай бұрын
I prefer accelerator, i mostly play quads and duos, in duo polluted i can just put 8 accels, 6 rangers/8 jesters, 3 commanders 1 dj and then spam golden cowboy, duo pizza party? i can just put 8 max accels and invest all into gladiators/mortars, once you have enough accelerators his dps will not look inconsistent, my golden minigunner experience outside solos was very underwhelming due to the amount of space golden mini takes, accel is way more compact.
@LatteCappucinoCamellia Жыл бұрын
I always find it to be situational, When i tried both on fallen with the map fungi island (solo btw), Accel wasnt able to kill the fallen king until he got to the back of the map, meanwhile with g mini, they killed him before he could leave their range, I also find when attempting solo pw2, G mini gives better results than accel. But, in a group, because the placement is limited, I almost always bring accel, since now there would be more accels, it works better
@Scott-bn2vn Жыл бұрын
Overall, Accelerator is better cause Accelerators are reliable as they always target the ''first enemy''. The Accelerator has a built in code which when it starts attacking something, it will give more damage if the enemy is weak and gives coins. Golden Minigunner will never attack the first enemy and overall has a lower dps ceiling. Only upside for Golden Mini is it can be MUCH harder and rarer as it is first to appear, to get as its one of the 6 gold skins costing a grand total of 50,000 coins, still giving you a 1% chance of obtaining it. Then again, Accelerator has a WAY HIGHER potential when it comes to no placement limits. Do not use Golden Mini for any situation, and use Accelerator for solo, duo, trio and squad. Simple.
@MehderFeker Жыл бұрын
@@Scott-bn2vnbro stop spamming this shit 💀
@rutreat9815 Жыл бұрын
alot of people dont note that accelerator only gets buffed by commander by 33% because of the overcharge
@scottyjackson6496 Жыл бұрын
Max accel with commander ability does 850 dmg every second don’t yell at me if I’m wrong because I do not know if I did the math correctly that is not including charge time and over charge
@scottyjackson6496 Жыл бұрын
And also I round the amount of time it ticks of dmg in a single second
@DanielCichy-b3h Жыл бұрын
POV Elite: Imma try and see how far I can get by placing golden minis and another round with accel to see which one get farther. ALSO Elite: imma place some cowboys (proceeds to place 20+ Cowboys)
@FScaler4 ай бұрын
Accelerator is the best in duos, personally i don't want golden mini because accel is more efficient, you get money you place 8 accels down and you wait until the match is over
@NitroBladee Жыл бұрын
the problem with accel is it’s targeting, however do think accel is still better overall
@somnium291 Жыл бұрын
alternative title: one op loadout vs one op loadout + other towers
@nope54321_ Жыл бұрын
Can I get a event strat with both towers
@SigandersGeneralContent Жыл бұрын
I don't have gold minigunner but i bring accel and minigunner and place minigunners after i hit the placement limit on accel
@Annihilation-1 Жыл бұрын
By the way, crazy how tds wants their players back from tdx since they released the event tower, BEFORE THE EVENT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN
@iexist8187 Жыл бұрын
Also, pls review frost blaster
@pahlawan7697 ай бұрын
Probaly Golden Mini because it has no placement limit but if you bring other tower then it will not be that much good.
@LachlanButton Жыл бұрын
I could not imagine how much they would shred together
@WikiCakes11 ай бұрын
Reason minigunner lost bc plushie skin has debuff issue which is miss target