Denafrips Ares 2 Review - Not really NOS, but lovely!

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GoldenSound

GoldenSound

Күн бұрын

The Denafrips Ares 2 is an affordable R2R dac with a lot to offer....and some questionable aspects.
Correction: 768khz is 16x 48khz, not 32x!
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Intro Song: "Awake" by Electric Guest
Testing Tracks:
101 Eastbound - Fourplay - song.link/gb/i/1305715762
Dissolve (Acoustic) - Absofacto - song.link/gb/i/1455616840
Ugly Boy - Die Antwoord - song.link/gb/i/871804919
Need Somebody - Boogie Belgique - song.link/gb/i/1148145824
These Drugs - Sugar Pine 7 - song.link/gb/i/1453710912
0:00 - Intro
1:39 - Build and Aesthetics
2:44 - I/O
3:09 - Internals
9:30 - Sound
23:35 - Not actually NOS!
31:20 - Impulse response quirk
32:28 - Conclusion
33:55 - Channel Stuff
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@MrByronbolton
@MrByronbolton 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video. I’ve owned this DAC for about a year now. I have to admit I started watching this video with reservations and my defenses up. But it was so thorough and on point with excellent description of how the Ares II performs. You really well articulated why I love this DAC so much. Keep up these great videos. I’m going to patron now.
@GoldenSound
@GoldenSound 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, I really appreciate that! Good to know my findings align with what you're hearing too
@devinmatteson
@devinmatteson 3 жыл бұрын
He really is doing a wonderful job at what he does. It shouldn’t matter though, if his findings truly align with your own, but how thorough, technical, and consistent he is with his reviews. He doesn’t just understand what he’s hearing, but he also demonstrates that he has a fundamental understanding of the hardware and how it translates to their technical capabilities. Subjective findings can vary from user to user. But if you can find someone that’s this thorough with his reviews, regardless of how perceptions align, you can really get a relationship in perceptions and have confidence in the review that he’s putting out and how it will translate to your own perceptual findings.
@suryapramoddev
@suryapramoddev 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! Which Amp have you paired it with and which headphones are you loving them with it?
@thelogicmatrix
@thelogicmatrix 3 жыл бұрын
Golden sound is just one of the best audio reviewers, he covers everything with exquisite detail
@chris292
@chris292 2 жыл бұрын
@@GoldenSound DO YOU THINK YOU CAN HELP ME FIND A DAC
@smellyoldsock1553
@smellyoldsock1553 3 жыл бұрын
I purchased this in march, plugged it in, set up and have hardly touched it since. It's a joy. I'm glad I've not personally heard better, that way I can simply enjoy it without endlessly chasing my tail.
@ericharrelson32
@ericharrelson32 3 жыл бұрын
The amount details in this review was quite nice; well done. The way you produce your content is enjoyable to watch, always waiting with a little anticipation for the next one.
@sajanpalanki3950
@sajanpalanki3950 3 жыл бұрын
I gotta say that I really enjoy your music "recommendations" that you use for testing. It gives me a chance to explore new artists and songs I hadn't heard before.
@MattBorchert
@MattBorchert 2 жыл бұрын
You produce chill, high quality content. Appreciate it.
@mikepedersen2042
@mikepedersen2042 3 жыл бұрын
Your content is consistently of really high quality. Please keep it up.
@Rpez
@Rpez 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for including gamers in your review.
@SmallRoomAudio
@SmallRoomAudio 3 жыл бұрын
Fab video, you are so great at getting complex theory across in a really engaging and easy to understand way - loved it!
@xyanide1986
@xyanide1986 3 жыл бұрын
Big props to going in depth with the oversampling modes. I don't know any reviewer that does this.
@VirtualFreightDog
@VirtualFreightDog 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You review just saved me a lot of money and frustration. I was planning on buying the Ares II for my home theater setup, but the changeing input delay is a deal breaker for me. So glad I found this video!
@hushpuppykl
@hushpuppykl 3 жыл бұрын
You are spot on. It’s a great review. Honest with comparisons that give viewers a reference point. TQ!
@wouterkolkman
@wouterkolkman 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting what you mention about NOS mode. On my Holo Audio Spring I always used to listen in NOS mode. Now on the Denafrips T+ I am happy with OS. Good to hear that lots of the virtues of a ladder DAC shine through in the more ‘budget’ offering.
@miroslavbazitov183
@miroslavbazitov183 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing how a review can be worth watching. No marketing fluff, no “audiophile” sweet talk - just pure information. Plus someone who actually knows how a real instrument sounds. Thank you 🙏
@13thnotehifireviews7
@13thnotehifireviews7 2 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day isn’t it just about how the damn thing sounds, and if you do that with a range of products honestly and in well produced way, job done. When the reviewer says the person will get a good result with the jitter, what if the person likes the tone to think it’s a fantastic result. The technical spec means nothing. How would knowing if the product has an output stage or high output impedance, or not, decide whether it sounds better or not in a subjective way? I just hate the way people make hifi , which is a means to an end of music - which is entertainment, boring with technicality. When he says it objectively does well. How do you rate all the technical factors to all those of another to know if it objectively sounds good.
@miroslavbazitov183
@miroslavbazitov183 2 жыл бұрын
@@13thnotehifireviews7 “sounds good” and “tastes good” are my two favourite nonsenses. The none-technical side is great for story telling but frankly useless to make decision. You can’t make decision only based on the technical aspect either. As of the jitter - some people also like auto-tune vocals… what can I say :) To expand on why I like his reviews - I always learn something new even after I watched 15 other reviews of the Same product - that enough for me. (Yes, these 15 others are about the airiness and fluffiness and the Bugatti of the last generation of good old cars…)
@13thnotehifireviews7
@13thnotehifireviews7 2 жыл бұрын
@@miroslavbazitov183 I don’t think that’s right. Your job is to work out on hearing thoughts if you agree with them or not, on trying yourself. And that can only come from the fluff as you call it. The subjective part of the review, which is always comparison based. Sadly I think people think that on KZbin, if someone appears to know the technicality of things, they are a good reviewer. And I’m not saying he isn’t but what I’m making a point to, is that technical understanding has little semblance on how something sounds because it’s impossible to weigh up all the technical factors to come to SQ. It makes the review only subjective based on comparison, and that trying to suggest a product works well based on technicality will never work.
@mikehuntington4440
@mikehuntington4440 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, your videos are so good and your knowledge is so extremely valuable. Wish you would have brought this video out months ago. I had this DAC and I tried to set it up with a miniDSP that has a four Channel output, into two separate DACs so that I could send high pass filter to the speakers, and a low pass filter to my subwoofer. I'm fairly new at doing this stuff so.... You can imagine the problems I had when I finally figured out the random delay output from this DAC would change. It took me weeks of trying to figure out that I wasn't doing anything wrong, but the DAC was creating the problem. I think you are the only reviewer that mentioned this problem.... Please keep up the outstanding work.
@EricRhodeslives
@EricRhodeslives 3 жыл бұрын
🤣 That sucks. I can see myself doing that. Just get a Bluesound Node. It has digital outs for the DAC AND! a Sub out for hi/lo pass filtering (and it's DAC doesn't suck either).
@BogdanWeiss
@BogdanWeiss 3 жыл бұрын
I can not see how the delay would interfere with the functioning of the miniDSP - the delay only matters in real time gaming & video playback.
@mikehuntington4440
@mikehuntington4440 3 жыл бұрын
@@BogdanWeisslet me try and explain. The miniDSP I was using is digital output only(SHD Studio) and requires a DAC or even 2 DACs for what I wanted to do. The miniDSP has 4 channel output, so for example.... you can output a 80hz and above signal to your 2 main speakers using one DAC(the Aries in my case). And then use the 3rd channel output with both left and right audio combined with only bass frequencies.....sent to a second DAC and then a subwoofer. The problem is, the denafrips random delay makes it impossible to align the mains sound with the subwoofer. Phase and everything will be way off....and it will sound completely messed up. Make sense?
@bobnot24
@bobnot24 3 жыл бұрын
I'm doing a similar 2.2 ch set up with HQPlayer and RME Digiface USB. I would like to know whether Pontus/Venus demonstrate similar random delay.
@Mingchops
@Mingchops 3 жыл бұрын
Just to say huge props for the Boogie Belgique recommendation! Love it, never heard before, no idea electro swing was even a thing, but now obsessed!! Cheers
@mfr58
@mfr58 3 жыл бұрын
Best and most useful Ares 2 review I've heard. Knowing the output drive limitations was news to me and means I can reconfigure my set up to get better performance. Thanks.
@EricRhodeslives
@EricRhodeslives 3 жыл бұрын
Only referred to the balanced outputs
@MistaLova-Lova
@MistaLova-Lova 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried high impedance amps/pre-amps to see if the Ares II sounds better with them? I am using a Topping A90 with my Ares II which on paper is the worst possible match; I'm wondering how big a difference could be experienced with a different amp.
@mfr58
@mfr58 2 жыл бұрын
@@MistaLova-Lova I was running the Ares into a pot at the power amp. I inserted a high input Z buffer stage in between and it made a great improvement. That was on the Ares RCA outputs.
@yuh6543
@yuh6543 3 жыл бұрын
another amazing review!
@locmanw1583
@locmanw1583 3 жыл бұрын
You are the only one that found this out! Can't wait for the Holo Spring 3 review!😊
@MartinJablonski
@MartinJablonski 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the VMV D1se review. I already decided I wanted to buy the Ares 2, but if the VMV D1se is on par with it I have to wait for the review, as I felt your recommendations quite nicely fit my personal preferences, so your opinion definitely holds more weight for me than other reviewers.
@dksculpture
@dksculpture 3 жыл бұрын
I set oversampling and filter once but I switch phase several times per listening session. For me the design makes sense. Lots of great info in your review!
@Thoughtflux
@Thoughtflux 2 жыл бұрын
Hands down the best audio review channel out here.
@eyelovelil
@eyelovelil 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been in market for a DAC & have narrowed it down to the Denafrips Ares II at the top of my list. This video was really an informative one & will help me in my decision.
@stanislasflipo7214
@stanislasflipo7214 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought the VMV D1se and it's on its way. I'm really looking forward to your review of it :)
@audioaficionado9494
@audioaficionado9494 2 жыл бұрын
Great review with detailed objective+subjective information and why it matters. Was thinking of the Schiit BiFrost 2, but now it seems to be outclassed by some of your latest
@supremeboy
@supremeboy 3 жыл бұрын
Great review! I really liked the easy explanation why this unit is different than others in same price range and who should choose what. Its much easier to choose correct dac than with just a lot technical data while looking website reviews. Small favor to ask please please do review Denafrips Pontus II. I would really like to see what you think about that below 2k price category :)
@TheGamerUnknown
@TheGamerUnknown 3 жыл бұрын
Very glad you mentioned that delay, big deal for some of us who use it for things other than just music. Would have liked more comparison vs. the SGD1 though!
@KenMoreira
@KenMoreira 3 жыл бұрын
A great entry into r2r resistor ladders. I picked up my first r2r via spring 3 kte. Hoping you do a review of that dac at some point. Preferably before mine arrives in a couple months lol. Keep it up Cam Jam
@OrganNLou
@OrganNLou 2 жыл бұрын
I own this and I think it is wonderful! GREAT REVIEW!
@yugioh887
@yugioh887 3 жыл бұрын
Yes great review Thanks Golden!
@svtcontour
@svtcontour 3 жыл бұрын
I've got this as well as the Gustard X16 and love them both and IMO I definitely agree with the acoustical music for the Ares II. I like the Gustard more for electronic and the Ares for the acoustical. But love both DACs.
@MichaelSamuelson99
@MichaelSamuelson99 2 жыл бұрын
I very much appreciate your videos. I have been going back and forth between the Ares II and the D1se for the past few months and your analysis helped me decide on the D1se. I have now put about 16 hours into my new dac and it is a perfect match for my system. Thank you so much! The slightly more analytical sound matches very well with my Parasound Newclassic 200 integrated and Linton 85th Where I am now sure the Ares II would have been too warm. This was a huge upgrade for my overall sound. I was running a Node 2i running as a Roon enpoint. Now I just run the NUC straight into the USB on the DAC. HUGE improvement! Thank you thank you!
@andjeyvolikov3508
@andjeyvolikov3508 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! I currently purchased D1se, i wanted to ask, is it worth to burn in it? Strait from the box it sound a little bit edgy on highs, and a bass a little bit bloated...
@MichaelSamuelson99
@MichaelSamuelson99 2 жыл бұрын
@@andjeyvolikov3508 I just received mine which sounds amazing right out of the box. This also means that I cannot comment on how the sound will change over time. I believe there is some amount of burn but I feel it is probably far less than something like working in a leather baseball glove. I always say your pairings are far more important than any amount of burn in that may occur. How you equipment works together should be the journey and goal… hope you enjoy yours as much as I enjoy mine. If I change from here it will be a whole new system. I feel any gains past what I have are going to be minimal unless I change to a whole new setup. My system is built for music enjoyment. I could have leaned towards resolution and clarity but I feel I get plenty of refinement without losing the warmth that I chose the components for
@andjeyvolikov3508
@andjeyvolikov3508 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelSamuelson99 Thank you for the answer, i pair it with Topping A30 pro amplifier(which is much better than A90 in my opionion), interesting what is the best pairin for this dac as headphone amp. A90, Singxer SA-1 i did not like, i own previously flux labs amplifiers, i think they add to the sound too much of their own character... This dac has greate layering, the best i've ever heard from dacs, but i think the bass could be more accurate, and sounstage just a little bit bigger... Actualy 24h of burn in, don't know if unit burned on, or my ears, but it is not edgy anymore:) One more interesting question, is it worth to connect to modern digital interfaces like gustard u18, singxer su-6, is it worth it?
@andjeyvolikov3508
@andjeyvolikov3508 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they build up top headphone amplifier for this line, not speakers amp
@MichaelSamuelson99
@MichaelSamuelson99 2 жыл бұрын
@@andjeyvolikov3508 the headphone amp market is too congested at the price point maybe?
3 жыл бұрын
I checked out Boogie Belgique based on your recommendation on the community page and was not disappointed. Great album, I'll echo the recommendation 🙂
@davidwilcox6959
@davidwilcox6959 3 жыл бұрын
This maybe the external DAC for my Node 2i I’m looking for. Great review and all reviews seem to be consistent for this product.
@blademan7671
@blademan7671 3 жыл бұрын
Love the technical and data driven approach. While subjective observations are fine, in this digital world data driven objective observations are also helpful, especially if the marketing is pushing something inaccurate.
@portalhead95
@portalhead95 3 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are such addictive!! to watch that I cant wait for your next review upcoming video. Great review as always Golden. Btw have you tried Gustard X16? Seems… interesting?
@juanmillaruelo7647
@juanmillaruelo7647 2 жыл бұрын
Good review :-) Have a great year!
@GoldenSound
@GoldenSound 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by 'new apos'?
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 Жыл бұрын
Great Job just found your channel Subscribed very impressed !
@borisgreene6202
@borisgreene6202 2 ай бұрын
Perfect review. Very well done. Thank you.
@grahamstrahle4010
@grahamstrahle4010 3 жыл бұрын
Such an interesting review. Some high praise coming through on SMSL VMV D1SE, but not for the new Topping D90SE.
@radski_fives
@radski_fives 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you get your thoughts out on video about this DAC, I remember a few months back when you reported on SG about the NOS (or lack thereof), and was curious when a review would release.
@dvlduvall
@dvlduvall 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review.
@JohnTwo1
@JohnTwo1 3 жыл бұрын
A shame about that buffer delay, you are the only reviewer who has mentioned it. Makes it impossible for my use case.
@xyanide1986
@xyanide1986 3 жыл бұрын
Just what I was thinking. I'm glad I didn't buy one.
@TasmanGuitarsAmps
@TasmanGuitarsAmps 3 жыл бұрын
It can be lowered
@Camride
@Camride 3 жыл бұрын
FWIW I've had my Ares 2 for about a year now and I use it as my primary dac for music, movies and gaming (literally use it for everything). The buffer delay is only an issue when first plugging it in or immediately after switching inputs. If you stay on the same input (I'm on USB 100% of the time) it likely won't be an issue, at least it hasn't been for me.
@Thevikingcam
@Thevikingcam 2 жыл бұрын
I dont mind. Got SMSL SU-9 DAC for movies. This (Ares II) is for the STAX set.
@NiToNi2002
@NiToNi2002 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree, saved me from getting this for music production/studio use. I wish he’d also mention in every review the maximum output voltage on SE and balanced, if the XLR and RCA are active simultaneously, the output impedance of both, and the quality and range of the volume control (i.e. if the DAC can be used as a pre basically).
@lesarnolfinis6775
@lesarnolfinis6775 2 жыл бұрын
Truly an excellent review, combining in depth listening impression with in depth technical explanation and measurements. I am very surprised to see a tube amplifier in the background. Can we expect a review of this beauty?
@DistroUser
@DistroUser 2 жыл бұрын
I own and have lived with the Schiit Bifrost 2 for almost 2 years so I am truly familiar with its particular sound. It has a crisp, clear and open presentation that can be quite palpable at times with music and video. With all the favorable reviews of the Ares II I decided to purchase the unit thinking I would replace my Bifrost. Well, that didn't go as planned. I found the Ares ll great for long listening sessions and yes it's smooth and analog like. What I found lacking in particular was in the treble region..no clarity or openness like the Bifrost. It was especially noticeable with videos which allow the recording to come alive or fleshed out or in other words lacking air. My two cents!
@martijnbos9873
@martijnbos9873 2 жыл бұрын
That's interesting. I am looking into buying a new DAC and I am leaning towards Ares II. I am also considering Bifrost 2 and D1SE. What would you say about this choice?
@DistroUser
@DistroUser 2 жыл бұрын
@@martijnbos9873 I don't know the D1SE, but if you noticed why do Schiit and Denfrips NOT have MQA? Also why are there many high-end DACs with no MQA...I think it's more fiction than fact. Check out iiWi Reviews, his Earmen Tradutto review elaborates on the Ares II with pluses and minuses.
@sambalsamurai9672
@sambalsamurai9672 2 жыл бұрын
@@martijnbos9873 Goedemorgen Martijn, I have the exact same dilemma! Have narrowed down my search to two DACs: Schiit Bifrost 2 or ARES II... But which one to go for?
@martijnbos9873
@martijnbos9873 2 жыл бұрын
@@sambalsamurai9672 I decided to get the Ares II and OH MY GOD this thing is amazing! I have never heard the Bifrost 2, so for what it is worth, but I can wholeheartedly recommend the Ares II. It indeed sounds very analogue and real. The reviews I found from people who have heard both basically all recomment the Ares II btw.
@NightAndDay247
@NightAndDay247 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, very thorough. Will you be doing a review of the Pass Labs preamp for headphone applications? I think that would a very enlightening video because of how well you relate technical data to real world audio experiences. Thanks!
@octilliondollars
@octilliondollars 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for these videos
@vanbuitran1746
@vanbuitran1746 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Maybe youre the best audio reviewer on youtube right now, so much information in your review that other cant provide. Awsome! Please please review the AudioGD R1 and compare it to Ares2, Audiogd still a myth, someone love it someone hate it so much. But from what i read their product very interesting and different. Thank you
@benteo87
@benteo87 3 жыл бұрын
Love this review, such a breath of fresh air int erms of reviews in general and kudos for referencing the music used, definitely keeping those in my library. Btw WHat would you suggest as a headphone pairing? im using the rupert neve RNHP with the ares 2 and i cant be happier.
@alessandrosuppini943
@alessandrosuppini943 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review, you are really standing out from the bunch! I wonder if the delay issue and the NOS (or lack of) feature also in the bigger brother Pontus 2, any thoughts?
@supabayes3284
@supabayes3284 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting review. You have provided valuable insight about the delay in the processing within the Denafrips dac. I had the Terminator in my setup and I tried to perform room calibration for my stereo 2 channel set up using Trinnov Amethyst, the Trinnov kept complaining about not being able to complete the measurements. I never encounter this issue with any other dac in my set up even with the Dave and Mscaler. Nonetheless the Ares2 and Terminator are great sounding dac but I found Chord Dac to be more natural sounding than the Denafrips. I think that the DSP inside are lifting the treble and bass frequencies and a touch of reverb for wider soundstage.
@RenRenification
@RenRenification 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for the awesome reviews, your objective and subjective opinions in a single video are just priceless. I use a headphone amp with 20k impedance over balanced and that falls below the recommended 10x rule. Should I be concerned that my ares 2 isn’t being fully utilized?
@JakeBlues-dq9xg
@JakeBlues-dq9xg 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. As a new Ares 2 owner this was very interesting stuff! And want to echo your sentiments on Alvin at Vinshine Audio, what a stand up guy he is!
@gerard3797
@gerard3797 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for your review on the Spring 3 with preamp, which is the main candidate to replace my integrated dac/preamp in the living room. I actually have the Merason Frerot (with Matrix spdif 2) in my desktop setup, which seems to be one of the best allrounding dacs in this price category. It handles music very natural, but also delivers modern music very well. It is a hybrid dac, so would be curious to see you review that DAC with you technical knowledge.
@righteousone8454
@righteousone8454 Жыл бұрын
Thank you about explaining delay aspect, didn't even think about it. I game and realize that it's a no-go.
@InternetUser-d7s
@InternetUser-d7s 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, really enjoying your reviews - honest, analytical, but not tedious. Tell me, have you had a chance to demo the Sonnet Morpheus? If so, any reflections? Thanks.
@ohnonate
@ohnonate 2 жыл бұрын
Great review very true. Also very true regarding the pre amp. I have a clip on my youtube connected up to my Elac Navis actives. I currently want to purchase the topping pre 90. Also true about the listening electronic music. Great review and new sub !!!
@NeilBlanchard
@NeilBlanchard 3 жыл бұрын
The one DAC that you don't mention, that you have reviewed, and the Schiit Bifrost 2. Very interesting analysis on the NOS. And the comparison of the Slow and Fast filters is excellent. I concur that Fast/Sharp is best - Slow has an emphasis on sibilance and string plucks, and vocals sound like they have a bright sounding mic.
@sambalsamurai9672
@sambalsamurai9672 2 жыл бұрын
Have you listened to the ARES II or only the Bifrost 2? If you have, how would you describe your experience comparing the two DACs?
@NeilBlanchard
@NeilBlanchard 2 жыл бұрын
@@sambalsamurai9672 I own both, and I use the Ares II in my main system. The Bifrost 2 is a bit better in the bass, but I like the space and separation and clarity of the Ares II. If you need no delay, like watching video, or editing, then the Ares II won't work for you.
@IvicaMarusevic
@IvicaMarusevic 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! It would be sooo good if you would cover the Musician audio Draco DAC also and do some comparations!!!
@FliskerX
@FliskerX 3 жыл бұрын
Are you going to review Pontus II ? I have Ares II and I just love it since I first tried it, but I'm curious about the more expensive Denafrips DACs.
@genotabby
@genotabby 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had the ares as a loaner unit from vinshine and yup it definitely sounds good tonally but the main peeve I had with it was maybe it sounded a bit more muddy and less dynamic than the spring 2. At that time I was trying to decide between the May and the Terminator. With the additional downside from the latency, I decided to go for the May. One additional benefit that denafrips has over the May though is repairability. Vinshine audio has informed me before that the parts are easily replaced. Once they troubleshoot what went wrong in the dac over a call or other forms of communication, they would ship out the pcb and all you need to do is to replace the pcb, rather than shipping the dac to them.
@motorcaster57
@motorcaster57 Жыл бұрын
Bit of a new audiophile.... why does this matter?
@genotabby
@genotabby Жыл бұрын
@@motorcaster57 Why does what matter? The latency or repairability?
@MorrisonSoft
@MorrisonSoft 3 жыл бұрын
Thx for another great review. Around 19:25 you mentioned the Singxer sa1, do you have hands-on experience with this or is a review to be expected ?
@nicolasyance40
@nicolasyance40 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video! Will you make a review of the Spring 3? I want to upgrade my Sony TA-ZH1ES to a dedicated dac and I'm between the May and Spring 3 KTE.
@whipsaw
@whipsaw 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review; thanks very much. One question: could you please provide some brief insight into your thoughts on the Pontus?
@bokolobs1264
@bokolobs1264 3 жыл бұрын
Great review! Have you noticed a difference in sound quality between using the USB input and the coax input? Which sounds better? Or because of the re-clocker, it won't make a difference? The reason I ask is it seems the Ares II do not galvanically isolate the USB input. Thanks!
@andreaseriksson8121
@andreaseriksson8121 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this interesting review. I did not know some of the things you mention. I am going to use a relay-based passive preamp but with 2K+Ω input- and 300Ω output impedance. I think that will be ok. What is the maximum XLR cable length you recommend for this DAC? Have a nice summer.
@ranelime
@ranelime 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks! Burson composer x3 DAC coming up?
@robh9079
@robh9079 3 жыл бұрын
Super impressive review! Am using Ares into passive driving 33K. In theory, is a buffer preamp worth trying?
@sambalsamurai9672
@sambalsamurai9672 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! +1 and Subscribed. Are those capacitors ALSO surface mounted? Or is everything EXCEPT the capacitors surface mounted? In other words, if 1 capator goes bad over time OR if one sould wish to change the capacitors, can one swap them (provided good precise soldering iron) or is swapping Capacitors virtually impossible on this PCB?
@WelkySchullin
@WelkySchullin 3 жыл бұрын
Thx for great vid!!
@rbarrettnd
@rbarrettnd 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your review- I would love to hear your take on the Denafrips Ares 12-1
@shayan-gg
@shayan-gg 3 жыл бұрын
GoldenSound = Most technical and detailed review Zeos = Entertaining Review DMS = Different POV
@ph0enixr
@ph0enixr 3 жыл бұрын
*Papa Hans B = most technical and detailed Golden = best voice
@thisrocks
@thisrocks 3 жыл бұрын
Audio Science Review = the only one that matters
@elimgrc1292
@elimgrc1292 2 жыл бұрын
Zeos is a clown reviewer
@saverioricchiuto5386
@saverioricchiuto5386 2 жыл бұрын
@@thisrocks I don’t want to start flames, but if you love objectiveness you should objectively admit this review contains 100x more objective information than the one published on ASR. LOL
@thisrocks
@thisrocks 2 жыл бұрын
@@saverioricchiuto5386 I stopped watching when I saw the issue with delay as it disqualified the device from my interest. Like any good recipe, I will sample from many authors but if the fundamentals of the dish are not to my taste then there is little need to spend my time on such pursuits save for a randomly sparked curiosity.
@Thiago_S..
@Thiago_S.. 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I also hate false Marketing! I am never ever going to support a company that deceive their customers. I still dont know which DAC will be my next one, but now I know from which company it wont be
@TheNaboen
@TheNaboen 3 жыл бұрын
This was brilliant
@astellrozen
@astellrozen 3 жыл бұрын
Good review as always! But could you make a video about NOS DACs in general as you did about DDCs?
@GoldenSound
@GoldenSound 3 жыл бұрын
I have a mini series of videos in the works at the moment which will explain how every step of a DAC works. NOS dacs will be included in that :)
@bigblueocean
@bigblueocean 3 жыл бұрын
@@GoldenSound very much looking forwards to that.
@eliyahu3013
@eliyahu3013 3 жыл бұрын
@@GoldenSound cant wait for that vid
@jazzabana
@jazzabana 2 жыл бұрын
Waiting for the review of d1se in the back, maybe even a little comparison to ares, too? Just purchased d1se, waiting for it to arrive. Thank you for explaining what it is consisting of, like to a 5 year old.
@RyuMasterEX
@RyuMasterEX 3 жыл бұрын
Many of those cheap amps have low input impedence and like you said make it sound way too soft. Use hqplayer to oversample the ares ii to get rid of the warmth and pair it with a fa-10 + hard to drive planar. Timbre is important, interesting how the low end r2r starts at the level of the top Ds dac but certain people will say all dacs sound the same :)
@xyanide1986
@xyanide1986 3 жыл бұрын
Curious what you'd think of the ifi neo iDSD as a stand-alone DAC! Also check out things like the Bloodborne, Nier or the Bayonetta OST. Very busy neo-classical movements that really put my gear to work.
@Camride
@Camride 3 жыл бұрын
FWIW I made a MuMetal shield around the transformer (around the perimeter and on top), just to seal it off away from everything else. It made no difference that I could discern, but I'm still happy I did it. Makes me feel like it's a bit more complete.
@equilibrium2147
@equilibrium2147 Жыл бұрын
Another amazing review!!!! Well done. But I’m just wondering if you have the RME adi 2 pro fs Black edition in your list for review . I have to hear your inputs before buying one. Thanks!
@xplsov
@xplsov 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, but I have to ask, what’s the keyboard you’ve got there? I love the look
@mavmark
@mavmark 3 жыл бұрын
best ares 2 review... and i've seen tonnes of them.
@mcrelly
@mcrelly 3 жыл бұрын
Did you compare the oversampling versus non oversampling modes? For example did they measure differently? Or the number of steps were there more or less than 32? Did you hear a difference? Did you guess as to why they sounded different? Thanks
@evansstudios
@evansstudios 3 жыл бұрын
Another nice review! Are you going to review the Spring 3 before their prices change? Trying to decide between the Spring 3 KTE and the May L2
@GoldenSound
@GoldenSound 3 жыл бұрын
Review might not be out before then. Both are great but L2 may is definitely better
@ivanr5315
@ivanr5315 3 жыл бұрын
@@GoldenSound thanks for your valuable reviews!I was actually going to ask the same question, there is still a significant price difference between the spring 3 KTE and the May lev2. Do you think that the difference is substantial enough to grant going for the May? Thanks a lot
@sheepbaba
@sheepbaba 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Like that you can do the really nitty gritty and forensic on the NOSsies.
@benjitoon1
@benjitoon1 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Btw what mic and interface do you use?
@stimpy1226
@stimpy1226 3 жыл бұрын
I am enjoying the way you do your reviews. You throw in a little bit about measurements and square wave views on a scope screen even though I don’t rely on measurements but viewing square wave response is a reliable Picture of what will happen to music especially sounds that are close to impulse response and you know your way around the circuitry. Keep up the good work.
@GoldenSound
@GoldenSound 3 жыл бұрын
Yep! Measurements and objective testing can tell us quite a bit about what's going on. But having 120dB SINAD etc is no guarantee that something is actually going to sound good!
@marklabbett2605
@marklabbett2605 Жыл бұрын
any chance to revisit this DAC now they have updated the firmware?
@frankmonroe9696
@frankmonroe9696 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Do you still plan on reviewing the Asgard 3?
@trevorparmer5231
@trevorparmer5231 2 жыл бұрын
Recently found your page (partially because all the MQA hoopla :) and also from watching someone else’s review of the Iris DDC who recommended your page. My question, I use a Node (130) and with their firmware update have been using the usb out to the Ares II, because of the design limitations you’ve highlighted here would adding the Iris DDC inline improve SQ / performance? Thanks.
@michaelwright1602
@michaelwright1602 2 жыл бұрын
Ares II here, along with the Iris DDC, Denafrips Hades preamp and Thallo amplifier. Running the KLH Model 5 speakers… Neeest Bluesound Node feeding the music… I have not enjoyed listening to music like I am now able to in YEARS! Those chip DACs and other chip based gear, UGH! Music now sounds like MUSIC! Not some clinical presentation of noise, as that is what I have been hearing for all of these years with this modern gear. It is so nice to just sit down and relax and enjoy what I am hearing. I am even exploring new music, something I have not done in many years. Denafrips saved the day! I’ll take this natural sound of the Ares over all of that detail of these chip DACs.
@bomt697
@bomt697 3 жыл бұрын
1. Where do you find your music from? its an amazing selection 2. How does this compare to the Dac Magic 200m?
@simonh9806
@simonh9806 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I just discovered your channel. Did you ever try one of Regas DACs and what do you think of them ?
@arnottrogerscom
@arnottrogerscom 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the in-depth, super-informative review. Best I have seen and I have seen many! I think my Creek 5350 Integrated amp's line inputs (single-end RCA) have an input impedance of 13.7kiloOhms (13700 ohms) measured at 1kHz. Will that work with the Ares II. Pretty sure I don't really understand impedance. Thanks again!
@mobileuser2923
@mobileuser2923 3 жыл бұрын
"For audio at home, the rule of thumb is for the load impedance to be 8-10x the source impedance. This means that the voltage drop will be less than 1dB and the source won't be required to drive much current. It does no harm for the multiple to be more, even 100x or 1000x is fine." by sergeauckland here: www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/impedances-input-output-component-matching-what-to-avoid-what-to-look-for-how-to-navigate.21585/post-716405 In your case, Ares II have 625 ohms at output using RCA's, 13700 : 625 = 21.9 times so I guess it should be fine.
@zenboy2000
@zenboy2000 3 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about R2R for a while, but the contrast to the VMV D1SE makes it quite alluring.
@AJL713
@AJL713 3 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, did you get the chance to try the discontinued Airist DAC that Drop used to sell? Was that any good for the money? Based on your comments on cheaper R2R DACs I’m guessing probs not 😅
@mauben1
@mauben1 3 жыл бұрын
Great and comprehensive review. I quite liked it. Question: you mentioned issues with some female voices but did not elaborate. Would you care to add a note on that ? I tested a Pontus I a few weeks ago and Patricia Barber voice sounded “disembodied”, like coming out from a small hole in the stereo image. And in these days I am extensively testing a Pegasus vs Topping D70S, Pegasus showing which a tone / coloration issue with some female voices in the 400-800 Hz region, which sound a bit recessed / hollow / with more “breath” than “vocal cords” energy. Pegasus has little to do with Pontus, maybe it has some overlap with the Ares, but my question relates to such effect being recognizable in the Ares II - like a sort of house-signature.
@billymisfits
@billymisfits 2 жыл бұрын
fantastic review. just curious, how do you know so much about the electrical components/design? are you an electrical engineer?
@mw9020
@mw9020 2 жыл бұрын
Really good review. Did you get a chance to listen to Hegel amps H95/120/190 (same DAC). Would Ares 2 be a worthwhile step up from integrated Hegel DACs?
@coin777
@coin777 2 жыл бұрын
Great Job. Could You compare Venus 2 with Terminator 2? I own The Pontus 2 and I'm thinking about upgrading and I'm not sure how high should i aim.
@MartinHAndersen
@MartinHAndersen 2 жыл бұрын
Another great review. Will you review the Terminator?
@luckyupyours
@luckyupyours 3 жыл бұрын
Does the 32x OS have something to do with the 32 step FIR filters mentioned in the specs for this dac?
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