Golf Cart Allied Battery Lithium Conversion DIY

Step by step DIY lithium conversion for a Club car Precedent golf cart.

[@commoncentsideas1215]

I have just got a similar club car Precedent like yours.. exact same setup…. Are you sure that disconnecting the black and grey wires, is all you need to do to bypass OBC??? … i see many other videos where they say that you need to splice blue and white small wires together and run the black to battery negative… i like your way a lot more… but i just want to be sure so I don’t screw up my controller or battery. Thanks

[@kartkrazy]

Yes I am sure. Been doing it this way for years. Never cut or spliced anything 👍🏻

[@zorel1]

What is the price of this new batteries? Great video many thanks..

[@kartkrazy]

Not sure on pricing But make sure you check out bigbattery.com and use my promo code Stege10 to save some money

[@TomDavis-u8c]

What about lights horn and turn signal down they need a step down

[@kartkrazy]

Yes… You would need a voltage reducer

[@cdplayadavid7916]

Great video. Is a new voltage regulator required?

[@kartkrazy]

Yes

[@judyolmstead3652]

How do I add converter for headlights?

[@kartkrazy]

@@judyolmstead3652 new video on that hopefully soon… in the meantime, you can watch this video around the 10 minute mark I talk about the voltage reducer a little bit kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6aYmo2HrLple8Usi=eQEP2p0q_P2wBKwV

[@1fatcat65]

Always install on passenger side for weight distribution.

[@kartkrazy]

Yes sir. That’s my thought as well

[@craigmccuistion4896]

@@kartkrazy I see this comment so often. When it reality, it makes no difference at all. You're getting rid of 300 lbs of lead acid and replacing it with 90 lbs of lithium. You could hold the battery in your lap and the cart would ride just fine.

[@kartkrazy]

True that!!

[@leo959]

Those lead acid battery’s could probably be repaired. You must respect the chemistry of the lead acid battery.

[@kartkrazy]

Personally I can’t stand lead acid but I also know of people who can’t stand lithium 👍🏻😎

[@brinleynicholson4588]

So how do you turn up the speed?

[@kartkrazy]

Has to be done at the dealership. Ask for a speed code 4. Should run you about $100

[@jonnysommer3602]

Really well put together video and information. I just installed the ECO Battery 51V 105AH thru hole kit in my club car precedent and it fit like a glove. No cutting to get it to sit flat and the positive and negative is opposite so the cables are long enough. Not being critical of your install but thought I would share. I share your thoughts on lead acid batteries. Also I will look into selling the used batteries to the parts store!

[@kartkrazy]

Thanks for the comment. I appreciate you watching! I do take the old batteries to the parts store for credit 👍🏻

[@scottsmith8808]

Thank you very informative even though I will be installing EPOCH Lithium Batteries the Allied Big Box Battery is very cool.

[@kartkrazy]

Your welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@ccook5568]

In you video, the black neg cable was too short, do you know what the new length was? Im trying to order the cable in advance as I plan on putting the battery in the same position as you had in the video. Is 2 Gauge the proper type?

[@kartkrazy]

2ga is correct… I want to say it was an 18 inch cable

[@antoniooro6477]

Thanks very good video just I would like to know the useful life of this battery how many life cycles does it have ?

[@kartkrazy]

Very useful Literally thousands of cycles

[@hermanripps3692]

for a 2017 club precedent, how many AH are required for normal operation. how many batt did you test to settle on Allied. or u a spokesman for allied? Thanks

[@kartkrazy]

My favorite set up is this one from big battery Use my promo code “stege10” at checkout and save $$$ bigbattery.com/products/48v-falcon-elite-kit-lifepo4-61ah-3-1kwh/

[@warbricksusa4075]

Hey thanks for the video. Allied sent me a solenoid and voltage controller. Should I keep the original club car solenoid? 2007 club car precedent. Thanks

[@kartkrazy]

Totally up to you… Either should work fine

[@MowerDealerUSA]

I’m doing Thai conversion now and I see you disconnected the blue cable on the battery. Is that the 12v for the lights and do I need a step down to connect that?

[@kartkrazy]

The small blue wire next to the main red positive is the factory connection for the step down converter… It still has 48 V

[@richardbertrand8895]

What was the cost of the conversion kit?

[@kartkrazy]

Around $2500

[@ianharnett9441]

Tks for the video..what was the cost for the battery pack and charger??...also how do you change the code from 3 to a 4 or5??

[@kartkrazy]

The cost of the battery set up is about 2500… The highest speed code that you can get is a speed code 4, and it has to be done at the dealer

[@tomseim]

It is easier to get a battery that fits into the battery compartment w/o all of these modifications.

[@kartkrazy]

Maybe…but I prefer the 1 large battery over several small. Modifications are simple. Everyone has a preference 👍🏻😎

[@robertlafrieda203]

Great video! As for battery placement ur in the right spot. So what u need to make a new negative cable. And Yes cut the old stuff out to get the battery on the floor. Center of gravity is king! As with stability. I’m researching for a friend and now thinking of the upgrade for my wife’s cart. Keep the good stuff coming Big Thumbs 👍🏽 up buddy!! …rob442

[@kartkrazy]

Thank you!!

[@btyng3678]

Great video. Helped me with my Li-Ion upgrade on and Icon i40. Understand now what to do with the new charger and what to take out from the old one. Thanks for taking the time to post this.

[@kartkrazy]

Thanks for watching!

[@PalmettoBatteryPros]

DUDE LOOK INTO UPGRADING YOUR BMS. WE DO IT AT MY SHOP IN SOUTH CAROLINA. KICK BACK TO THIS IS, BMS' ARE SUPPOSE TO BE OPTIMIZED FOR THE TYPE OF CELL BEING MANAGED, SO BY PUTTING HIGHER CONTANT DISCHARGE BMS IN WILL HAVE MORE STRESS ON THE CELL MODULES, BUT WHATS TO LOSE WITH SUCH A WARRANTY ALLIED OFFERS. PUT A 200A CONSTANT IN AND YOU MAY LOSE 2-3 YEARS DUE TO HEAVIER DEMAND ON THE CELLS THEMSELF. BUT ITS WORTH IT TO ME RATHER THAN BEING STRANDED AND PAYING A BS PRO RATED WARRANTY. PAY LESS TO HAVE A NEW HIGHER BMS IN THE THING

[@kartkrazy]

@@PalmettoBatteryPros this cart is sold

[@jameshappl]

@@PalmettoBatteryPros what do you mean, pay less to have a higher BMS in it? Go with a better quality battery, that would have a better BMS?

[@cueQu]

Nice build. I recently saw an interesting golf cart build. The guy added a gasoline generator so he could do long distance. Muffler was fairly quiet. Series hybrid EV. Like a FiskerEV

[@kartkrazy]

Thank you! That is interesting about the generator 🤔

[@shootsouthpaw7771]

What about the lights, horn, turn signals? I noticed your cart isn't equipped with them. You're still going to need the on board computer, correct?

[@kartkrazy]

The on board computer has nothing to do with the lights… it requires a voltage reducer

[@shootsouthpaw7771]

@kartkrazy most carts today and those you see in golf cart communities are already equipped to run headlights, horns, usb ports, sound bars, etc. They're not as basic as what you've shown. They need more.

[@kartkrazy]

Here is a link to the follow up video where we added headlights,tail lights, etc. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6aYmo2HrLple8Usi=-lCq9IUXYAiVRZAp

[@chrisginoc]

Question: I’m completely new to golf carts and golf cart mechanics in general. What do you think the odds of a first timer doing a lithium conversion successfully? I just inherited from my mother in law a mint 2000 Ezgo Txt golf cart and the first thing I want to do is a lithium conversion, but the shops charge an arm and a leg.

[@kartkrazy]

Very easy!!

[@chrisginoc]

@@kartkrazy What are your thoughts on a 48v 94Ah system like Badger EVO which is not as pricey as systems like Roypow or Trojan? What if the Ezgo txt we inherited is 36v?

[@kartkrazy]

@@chrisginoc battery EVO is a scam stay away. I would go with bigbattery.com and use my promo code “stege10” and save 10%!! They have 36 and 48v batteries

[@brianlewke9692]

Merry Christmas to you and your family

[@kartkrazy]

Thank you!! To you and your family also!!

[@joeking433]

I got a question maybe you can answer. I have a 2016 Cushman Hauler 800 but it has 7 8v batteries instead of 6 like I would expect. I've only seen 48v Cushman Haulers. Any idea what is going on? Can I replace it with a 48v lithium set up?

[@kartkrazy]

Is the seventh battery for accessories and not wired into the cart?

[@joeking433]

@@kartkrazy I didn't look, Could be! Do all 48 volt carts have an extra battery for accessories? It does have lights and an electric dump bed. If I do go to a lithium set up can I just keep the lead acid battery for the accessories? Thanks for the reply, BTW!

[@kartkrazy]

@joeking433 most carts do not but it would not surprise me

[@aunttriciaattic]

Thanks for the video.I need to know more why such a small golf cart needs so many batteries.Do you know?

[@kartkrazy]

@@aunttriciaattic only needs one lithium

[@aunttriciaattic]

@@kartkrazy Thanks

[@ronaldlipp1293]

I have a club car 1996 can I change mine to lithium ?

[@kartkrazy]

Absolutely

[@dannyadorno632]

Hello thanks for the video....i had a question im doing the same changing from led batteries to lithium....i didnt see any conversion kits is it not needed.....im a little lost on that part

[@kartkrazy]

@@dannyadorno632 not sure what you mean… all you need is the battery and the charger for the lithium set up

[@dannyadorno632]

​@@kartkrazyso the charger is what converts it ......I was all confused on the AC to DC stuff

[@kartkrazy]

@@dannyadorno632 the conversion part is just getting rid of the lead acid to lithium… if you are looking to replace lead acid just search 48 V kits and it should come with the battery, the charger, the battery indicator and everything you need

[@ronmowery3312]

What was your total weight savings

[@kartkrazy]

@@ronmowery3312 approximately 275 pounds lighter with lithium

[@stephenshanahan48]

Hi! I am installing big batteries in my club car with an onboard controller. I love that set up for the charger, Where can I find that plug?

[@kartkrazy]

Not sure as it came with the kit. You might try Amazon. Also, if you go back in the playlist and watch a video, entitled Bandit part 10 you can see where I used a Noco plug with similar results.

[@stephenshanahan48]

Thanks!@@kartkrazy

[@richardbertrand8895]

Thank You, Will check out the price up in Canada.

[@kartkrazy]

Please do!

[@dpl2617]

Not providing the longer negative cable in the kit is a FAIL. It's supposed to be a plug and play!

[@kartkrazy]

It is plug and play…I just prefer the battery on the passenger side

[@dpl2617]

@@kartkrazy That's the thing so does everyone. I have yet to see a conversion where it isn't on pass side. They thought of everything else. They should include a longer cable for the price!

[@kartkrazy]

@dpl2617 I get it😎

[@lonetown]

Do you have a demo installing a solenoid?

[@kartkrazy]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oX_CoqmqqrSmhassi=qxaNQuq5PO6hADWJ

[@terryalverson4741]

I have a 2010 Club Car Precedent so my setup is different. I have 4 12 volt lead acid batteries and would like to do the conversion. Looks like my computer is in the middle like a console. 2 batteries on each side. Would I take out that computer completely to make room for the Allied?

[@kartkrazy]

@@terryalverson4741 you have to have the controller An easier option would be to get the Eagle kit from bigbattery.com then you would not have to move anything Make sure to use my promo code “stege10” at big battery if that’s the route you choose to go and save yourself some $$$

[@ABetterAngle]

I too have the 2x2 precedent with the controller/computer in the middle. I have purchased the battery but needed to “remove” the controller to get the battery to fit. I have temporarily connected the battery to the neg and pos leads (4) and get power to the engine as planned (push pedal and go). But cart lights and horn do not work. in your video you talk about not needing the computer but in your response above it seems to indicate that you do need the controller. i’m not sure the difference? I’d love to remove the whole thing but not sure what to do about lights, horns and any other accessories

[@kartkrazy]

@@ABetterAngle there are three separate components 1. The controller … which you must have for the cart to work. 2. The OBC or onboard computer, which you no longer need after doing this conversion because that was for the original battery charger. 3. the voltage reducer which you must have in order to run lights, horn, etc.

[@ABetterAngle]

first of all, thank you so much for a quick reply. Very helpful as I am in the cart working on it now. So of that huge metal thing which is the controller, and which is the computer. And from that wiring harness, which of those wires do I need and which of them do I not need. I.e. the stuff that goes to that metal panel which can I disconnect? Also, your videos are very good and inspirational. I think I’m gonna retrofit the entire cart. So thank you in advance.

[@kartkrazy]

@ABetterAngle I think it might be easier if you don’t disconnect anything and just slide everything over a little bit… I personally don’t have a video about doing it, but I know there is some on KZbin that might be helpful for you

[@wesleypenny3675]

Ok so I bought the Vatrer 48V LiFePO4 and followed your same install method you did for your brand....I have a 2015 CC Precedent and previous had the speed code removed and going 25mph on lead acid....now with the new batteries I can only get 10mph...any suggestions?

[@kartkrazy]

I have never heard of that. Maybe something with the battery? Can you put a multimeter to it and check voltage right at the battery? Should be 50-51 volts fully charged

[@wesleypenny3675]

@@kartkrazy yes I am getting full voltage and see the amps spike as I take off but still no speed

[@kartkrazy]

@wesleypenny3675 did you have it in tow mode when you did the install?

[@wesleypenny3675]

@@kartkrazy possibly not but I did flip it back and forth to see if that was the issue. Should I disconnect the battery put it in tow and then reattach? Or did I mess something up?

[@kartkrazy]

@@wesleypenny3675 it would not help now…it is possible something got messed up in the switch over to the new battery without being in tow mode 😢

[@georgeborello8075]

Nice job, what does that kit cost? A little tip for the next time you want to drill a hole in existing spot where old battery light is just take a piece of scrap wood and you can use a spring clamp to hold it and this way you have a solid spot to start your pilot bit on your hole saw and it shouldn't move around on you.Merry Christmas.

[@kartkrazy]

The best price I am seeing right now on a kit is about $2400. I did the block of wood trick but did not know about the spring clamp. That is a great idea!! Merry Christmas to you too 👍🏻😎

[@georgeborello8075]

I have also used double back tape to hold the wood if you can't get a clamp on it.

[@kartkrazy]

@@georgeborello8075 that would make it easier

[@byond8188]

I’ve had an Allied 150Ah with a Plum Quick (in a Precedent) for over a year. It’s been a great setup with great mileage. I really enjoy the videos.

[@kartkrazy]

Thanks for watching!!

[@stambo39]

What kind of mileage do you get.

[@kartkrazy]

@stambo39 lots of variables go into that…type of terrain, how many passengers, driving habits etc. I would say 30-45 is a good range

[@stambo39]

@@kartkrazyok thank you my cart is completely stock with a 3 inch lift thinking about going to lithium. Which one you like better!

[@kartkrazy]

@@stambo39 I would also recommend bigbattery.com and use my promo code “stege10” Or vatrerpower.com and use my promo code “KARZY5OFF”

[@stankrieger3598]

What do i need to do to get into the higher speed range?

[@kartkrazy]

Easiest way is go to the dealer and have a speed code 4 installed. You can also do a Plum Quick motor.

[@jafo68]

Great video. 👍 do you have a link for this set up you did and possibly a price? Thanks

[@kartkrazy]

www.extremekartz.com/allied-lithium-48v-105ah-battery-bundle/

[@kartkrazy]

Also check out bigbattery.com Use my promo code “Stege10” and save 10%

[@jafo68]

Thank you for the information I appreciate it. 🙏

[@SunriseDentalLab]

The app is the coolest part, wish my Relion had something like that. Merry Christmas Jeff

[@kartkrazy]

Thanks John!! You also!

[@CartGuy]

The app does so much, the new one lets you link 8 batteries and it will calc it as one. Wild.

[@kartkrazy]

@CartGuy that is awesome

[@stephenshanahan48]

charger-not controller.

[@kartkrazy]

I knew what you meant😎

[@ericjohnson5095]

Thank you so much!!!! All the videos I watched on converting my club car never say anything about those two wires from the charge plug. Been stressing about what to do, now I know. I have a different design club car than you so my conversion to a different charging port for lithium was easier, accessing on board computer was a bit more involved. Thanks again for posting this video you helped me a lot.

[@kartkrazy]

Thanks for watching!!

[@panandmax]

Really helpful, thanks. So the ignition and lights were the cords from the old computer? No other wiring necessary?

[@kartkrazy]

This cart did not have headlights. Otherwise, a voltage reducer would be needed

Nice build. I recently saw an interesting golf cart build. The guy added a gasoline generator so he could do long distance. Muffler was fairly quiet. Series hybrid EV. Like a FiskerEV

[@kartkrazy]

Interesting