Golf Irons Comparison | TaylorMade vs Srixon | P770, P790 vs ZX7, ZX5

[@DaveFogel]

Great test guys!

[@2ndswing]

Thanks Dave!!

[@coltondoesgolf]

Srixons feel like Butter. Really forgiving, easy to shape. Love my ZX7s. driver swing speed is 115-117, the TMs had a bunch of flyers but the Srixons were shorter, they were lot more consistent. Didn’t need my 7 iron flying 205. Distance isn’t everything with irons

[@2ndswing]

Dispersion is for sure greater than distance with irons especially with your speed - Thomas

[@joo9125]

Having bunch of flyers with an iron is an interesting way to say that you suck

[@maxosuszek4447]

CPGA pro here. I built a combo with 4-6 zx7 and 7-pw ZForged (mb). Best iron setup ive played with ever. Ive played Titleist 712s. Cobra FlyZ Pro. Callaway X forged... and Srixon was 100% best of the bunch in playability, feel, distance and looks. I wont be selling these ever.

[@1974jrod]

​@@maxosuszek4447what shafts do you have in them?

[@maxosuszek4447]

@@1974jrod Nippon modus 120g x flex.

[@smallraymond1]

Thomas always comes through with every single accent and dialect of the English language. Solid!

[@bruinstan22]

I've been gaming the ZX5's since Jan and they've been the best irons I've ever hit. Yes, I got longer distances with the P790s, but I got fliers too and was horribly inconsistent with them. ZX5's are soft, great feel and sound, and dispersion was tighter for me.

[@2ndswing]

Love that! and the ZX5s look awesome too

[@badmuppet6532]

Hmmm, maybe me but don’t get flyers with the 790’s

[@adamhess9116]

I’ve had the zx5s for a couple months now and absolutely love them. Feel and look amazing

[@2ndswing]

Glad to hear you love your new sticks - Thomas

[@stevebair8033]

I was on vacation recently and rented a set of ZX5's and they felt amazing.

[@2ndswing]

They are very good clubs - Thomas

[@martinez7diego]

I traded my p770s in for a combo zx5/zx7 set. The 770s/790s were difficult to gauge distance with when you caught a flush strike being the speed foam & hollow head enhance distance. Currently play zx5 4,5 & zx7 6-pw also added a zx utility iron 3 for narrow tee shots. Absolutely best irons I’ve ever hit. Feel like marshmallows and distances stay true.

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for your feedback, it's not just about distance with irons you want the clubs to go the same distance more regularly - Thomas

[@soldsold1]

That's exactly my setup. zx5 4,5 & zx7 6-pw with a zx 3 iron for tight par 4's and 5's. $ taper shafts in the zx5 and zx7's and the smooth buttery feeling graphite shaft in the 3 iron. Great set that I'm not planning to change any time soon.

[@badmuppet6532]

Hmm, maybe me but don’t get flyers with the 790’s

[@kevinconnolly754]

@@badmuppet6532 maybe you haven't flushed one right in the sweet spot yet😂. there's definitely a shot every round or two that airmail the green for me, or find a hazard on a lay-up

[@badmuppet6532]

@@kevinconnolly754 every single club will do that but wouldn’t call them flyers. A well hit 7 iron Will go approx 175 consistently for me. A badly timed / hit one about 160 consistently. I would definitely not call that a flyer!

[@markwilliams21]

I play z785 irons and absolutely love them. Feel like butter. Had them bent weaker to more traditional lofts and they’re perfect.

[@2ndswing]

Sounds like a great setup, a little more height and spin with that adjustment - Thomas

[@Mike-mz9cm]

Ive been watching your channel for a while now regarding players distance irons as I'm in the market. I just got back from a fitting, looking at 4 heads - cobra forged tec, mizuno 921 forged, ZX7, and T200. I found the cobras to look and feel like my old M4s, the mizuno was nice and fairly easy to hit, the T200s were not forgiving at all, and the ZX7s were unreal. I was averaging 100 mph swing speed with 7 iron, 31 yard height, and 6500 rpm, with a carry of about 175 yards with a fade. I'm about a 12 handicap and these will help my game and give me room to grow. Appreciate your content - it was helpful.

[@2ndswing]

Thank you for your feedback. Sounds like you had a good experience getting fit for irons - Thomas

[@gibsonguitarplayer]

Bought a used 2 week old set of ZX5’s at Dicks. Guy had traded them in for the Taylor 770 or 90’s .. Went in a few weeks later for some shoes and the sales guy said the guy was back looking for his ZX5’s to re trade!!! I love them. Soft feel. Honestly feel I can fade or draw if necessary. Could never do that with my old clunky Big Bertha irons.

[@2ndswing]

😂 that's a great story!

[@4g63mark]

I just demo'd the P770, P790, ZX5 and ZX7 and the head weight felt slightly heavier with the Srixons. The reason the Taylor Mades go further is simple, they use a 4140 steel face vs the 1020 steel in the Srixons. 4140 steel is substantially harder and stronger than 1020, hence the softer feel with the Srixons.

[@nigelfrancis6350]

Such a good test and being a Srixon ZX5 player completely agree with the results. Played all the Srixon irons from the Z545 and now wouldn't play any other brand.

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for watching definitely underrated iron company - Thomas

[@baxterfriend9440]

Just bought the Sixons last week. Love them. They give me better consistency than the TM's. The TM's were really frustrating when I would catch one too flush and over the green it went.

[@CoachSully44]

Love them both! These were the two sets that it came down to for me. I just think that the P790's (2021) are the better looking club. They both performed equally well for me, but the P790's are GORGEOUS!

[@2ndswing]

Visuals are very important both are great options - Thomas

[@dangerzone919]

I combo the 4 and 5 with the zx5 and 6 to 9 with the Zx7. Very nice combo set I’ve found. Don’t like the hollow irons out there at all. Hit ‘em straight, who cares how long they are.

[@greatpar]

I’m using my third set of Srixon irons. Great feel 👍🇦🇺

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for your feedback - Thomas

[@kevinconnolly754]

i came very close to buying the P790 but the flyers where ridiculous 😬. ended up with cobra forged tech and love them. I've since hit the zx7's and they are absolutely buttery, wish they where in stock to test before i made a purchase.

[@jasonkennedy1346]

They say that srixon are the poor man's Mizuno....I'm sporting the Z785 6-w and have 4,5 in the zx5 really enjoy these. I'm a 13.3 hccp. And hit the Z785 just fine... easiest club I've used this far that I can hit a fade and or draw...I've failed trying to hit draws and fades with any other clubs. Thx Thomas and Drew love the content and keep them coming.

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for watching! They are a little less than Mizuno but I'm not so sure they should cost less - Thomas

[@alexgarcia7104]

Poor man’s Mizuno? You been under a rock and seen the prices? Lol

[@rodmunch4066]

I've been gaming Srixon irons since the z745 released.. I upgraded to zx7 with nippon modus tour120x last year and they are pure bliss... they are so dialed and controlled... easy to manipulate left right high low. I feel like I have the ball on a string when I'm playing well.. and they give enough help back when you're not playing so well which is a good thing also..

[@2ndswing]

Such an underrated brand. - Thomas

[@Toaster-v1z]

I bought some used ZX5s 6-pw, for I think $400 and found used ZX 4 and 5 hybrids to match. Paid about 650 total. I love the look and no regrets.

[@jetdr]

Srixon zx5 were the nicest Iron I have ever hit, only found them at a PGA Superstore. That is why they are underrated, can't find them.

[@mheberling5939]

I am considering both of these clubs and leaning towards the p770, but I am impressed with the Srixon zx7's.

[@2ndswing]

Both are fantastic options!!

[@JDSFLA]

6:36 In defense of Srixon, it is the ZX4 hollow body that competes with the TM P790, not the ZX5. If you are looking for distance in a head that is not oversize then both the P790 and ZX4 provide that. I have hit both, and prefer the ZX4 because the P790 sounds pretty "clicky" to me. I have hit the ZX5 too (its natural competitor would be another cavity back like the Mizuno 921 Hot Metal Pro), and it feels better than either the P790 or ZX4. If you have the swing speed to get sufficient height and distance, then you don't really want to blast your 7 iron 200 yards, but you do want consistent distances and feedback.

[@2ndswing]

Good point. Can't forget about ZX4 - Thomas

[@shelby1kenobee510]

Had a chance to try the ZX7, Miz225, P770, and Apex Pro in a fitting. Went in with an open mind and my 5yo Miuras. Came out with a new set of apex pros.

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for your feedback. The Apex Pros will look the smallest of those options but still are forgiving - Thomas

[@ericl8821]

I feel like you should’ve tried the 223s instead of the 225s for that comparison

[@rubensabeast]

I got fit today hit the p790 and zx5s I was hitting zx5s almost 10 yards further, tighter dispersion. I kept a 1.40 smash for both same swing speeds ball speed was a little quicker with the zx5 obviously but both felt amazing it’s weird seeing all these fitting videos with the taylormade going further

[@suprand]

Played p770 p790 since 2017. Had the zx5 for a bit. I think the best club that fits between a 770/790 and Zx5/Zx7 is the 2022 cobra forged Tec.

[@2ndswing]

Interesting selection. I can see it with looks but the loft is a little stronger yet with forged tec so it may go a little further - Thomas

[@kevinconnolly754]

gotta agree, love my forged tec. front to back dispersion is very tight.

[@tezzlacoilz]

I bought a set of zx5s 5-pw. Great clubs, first time I'd ever tried srixon, big thumbs up. But I found the 9 PW soles maybe a tad chunky for my taste. Totally sold on srixon and ended up trying zx7s and switched to them. I find them just as easy to hit but with a bit more "feel" for me. I don't think you can go wrong with either model though. My brother uses the zx5s and swears by them, and he's coming from mizunos.

[@FozzyGolfNZ]

Been playing on and off for 20 years, low single handicap. ZX7s are easily the best irons I have hit for me personally, and I have hit a lot.

[@jaymorin7131]

Bought a set of ZX5s with Steelfiber shafts and they did not feel right. I pulled the shafts and found they stepped the "R" shafts and the clubs felt like "S" shafts! Re-did the whole set with "A" shafts then the ZX5s felt awesome. They are not as workable as my old clubs so it has taken some time to understand hitting the ball straight.

[@2ndswing]

Great feedback! Glad you found something that will work!

[@markstone5593]

had all the big brands, never srixon, but every time I tried a srixon iron I loved the feel, so I bought a 2nd hand set (near new) srixon z785 last year. Hands down the best irons I've ever played. (5 handy cap player) Now my Q is, can the Zx7s be any better... and how.

[@2ndswing]

Only one way to find out. I would test them compared to your gamers. Srixon is very underrated - Thomas

[@craigpelletier6931]

Have had my Ping Zings since new. Last year went on Vaca and made the mistake of renting ZX5s. I now have U85 4-6 and ZX5 7-A Wedge. Never before understood what Golfers meant by Buttery feel when hitting an iron, I do now. Only 5 yrds further than my Zings but the Turf interation and feel sealed the deal

[@RecoveryChad]

Love my fitted 2021 P790's not even broke in yet and they are like a wet dream. They are so crisp and more forgiving than I thought they would be. I tested out Mizuno Pro 225 but they felt head heavy to me. Srixon were OK but they also didn't do it for me. At 49 yo the 790 will be my forever irons.

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for your feedback, glad you found some great sticks - Thomas

[@midlifebiker7424]

I went from Ping i200 to Srixon Z785 and cant see another change soon. I also have a P790 7i which I have in my practice bag so can see why they are popular.

[@2ndswing]

All three are good options and very popular. I200 more spin Z785 spin killer and P790 just goes - Thomas

[@chrisguider4250]

Great test. Now we just need the ZX4 irons vs the Stealth irons.

[@2ndswing]

I like that for a comparison. Thanks for watching - Thomas

[@patrickm5387]

Just purchased my Zx5’s a couple days ago. Super excited to get some full rounds in soon

[@2ndswing]

Very cool! Enjoy the new sticks - Thomas

[@brettbrunsell5769]

So the P770 are smaller than the ZX7? Sole? And topline?

[@jacobmccain8082]

I went from Z785/Z-Forged combo set to T100/T100S combo set. Not sure which I like better both are great although the T100 is smaller than the Srixon blade in my eyes.

[@jasonkennedy1346]

Agreed...t100 are alittle smaller top line..I have 2 t-100 and T100s 7 irons and the srixon z785 was a little more forgiving on misses and I'm giving a 9 out 10 on feel and 7 on dispersion

[@2ndswing]

To the eye T100/T100S will look noticeably smaller and shorter from heel to toe - Thomas

[@bl6369]

as a P770 user since release I've never experienced the random hot ball. it's not an issue.

[@2ndswing]

Love to hear that!

[@bl6369]

@Les sometimes. I'm a 2 hc.

[@mikerodrick2430]

Are Srixon not made by Cleveland?

[@blakes4469]

No, just partnered with Cleveland

[@MrMatthew262]

Love the p770’s but wish the blade length was a bit longer. I found the Srixon irons allowed me to get away with hitting behind the ball which was causing me to launch too high and lose distance.

[@2ndswing]

Agree that Srixon irons from heel to toe are a little longer - Thomas

[@craciunator99]

I feel lik the zx7 is closer to the p7mc and the zx5 is closer to the p770, but thats just how Ive been seeing it. I just ordered some zx5's 5-9 for a CRAZY deal, mint condition all 5 irons for $330 shipped couldnt pass it up. Im upgrading from regular R7 irons from 2006 so Im expecting a huge difference. I already have a P7MC 9 iron and PW and from all Ive seen the zx5's will go farther so I think ill be able to using the p7mc as my 9 iron and pw, and the zx5 9 iron would be my technical 8 iron, Ill see if thats how it plays out when I get them! If not I have a bunch of gapping to fix, if i even like the zx5's which i might not, but we'll see!

[@commonman317]

My useless observation. I prefer Drew and Thomas being in the simulator in the store instead. That store set up and presentation is so nice, which makes it much more enjoyable to watch. Just more used to it that way I guess.

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for the feedback! For full disclosure, we like to get outside in the warmer months to film so that we are not taking a bay away from the store that could be used for a fitting. We'll be back in the store environment soon when the temperatures drop...

[@ricklott6037]

Outdoor testing is so much better in my opinion. Not going to be playing in a bay. On the course is even better

[@88dirtdigger]

I own the ZX5 4-PW and ZX7 4-PW, both sets with the same shafts / specs, I had thought about playing the ZX5/ZX7 combo, but based on how close the Srixons were in this test grouping, they appears to be more similar than different. I agree extra distance is not all that unless that's what you are looking for. I never want to nuke a 7 iron and fly a green. I haven't hit the P790 nor the P770 for this reason.. I'd rather try out the P7MC's vs my ZX7's..

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for your feedback ZX5 & ZX7 are a great combo option but they are visually pretty similar - Thomas

[@BuffaloBarber24]

Which ones do you like better, zx5 or zx7?

[@88dirtdigger]

@@BuffaloBarber24 ZX7's.. ZX5's will be sold off shortly..

[@tomblake6139]

What's your handicap? Im thinking getting the zx5 mk2 iron set. My handicap was 20 over a year ago and havent been submitting scores to update it haha. Best on 18holes is 93 using clubs from the 1990s.

[@77bovi]

Video suggestion - quantify what flighting wedges really means. How low do we really want wedge shots to fly? Thanks!

[@baxterfriend9440]

Bought the Srixon ZX5 and very satisfied with them. Very dependable distances

[@michaelbrantl5543]

Got the zx7 at 2ndswing Wilmington awesome

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for coming to Wilmington. Sounds like you had a great experience - Thomas

[@neubauercarsten]

Although the P770 are great clubs, they do not provide nearly the feel of the ZX7. I'm fitted 1 degree strong which also minimizes the distance issue. Plus: they are MUCH cheaper!

[@dl2821]

Love my 2021 p-790s!

[@Collin_Christensen]

comparing hollow body irons to cavity backs seems like comparing apples to oranges doesnt it? I do love my Srixons tho

[@lkae4]

I love the sole on the ZX5/7 but the Mizuno Pro 225 was too beautiful to pass up.

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for your feedback - Thomas

[@davidc5553]

I am going to buy one Srixon (ZX7) set of clubs as well as a set of TaylorMade P790's. If I'm playing poorly on any given day I will just switch clubs on the turn. 'Cuz clearly it is the equipment's fault.

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for watching! I have heard that slogan somewhere "it's not you it's your clubs"... - Thomas

[@Siggy_Sour]

very tough choice might have to go Srixon. All beautiful at least!

[@2ndswing]

Great option and for sure underrated - Thomas

[@davepoulsen1007]

Loving my ZX7’s - being that they are a couple of years old now have you heard any rumblings about a new Srixon release??

[@2ndswing]

I'm sure a newer version isn't far away, although do they need to replace what's working? - Thomas

[@ericl8821]

Coming out tomorrow

[@swingeasyguy]

I was fitted for P790's in a KBS C taper lite shaft. Would that shaft perform the same in the ZX5's? Thanks

[@2ndswing]

I believe I answered this question on another thread. However yes I'm very confident that it would perform similar in P790 & ZX5 - Thomas

[@joelane2845]

Thomas, In fittings and with you personally, how would rate the Mizuno Pro 225 irons versus these irons in terms of distance, forgiveness, consistency, spin and forgiveness? Thank you as always!! Joe

[@ericl8821]

I had a combo set Mizuno pro 223/225 and recently traded them in for ZX7’s. Absolutely love them! If you were on the fence for the 223 or 225s I’d go for the 223s if you’re looking for more of a player iron like the ZX7s.

[@brendonbonacci448]

Sold my p790 set and upgraded to zx7. The p790 felt awesome but the amount of times I flushed a shot and it went 10m over the green was a joke. There isn’t many courses out there where long is safe. I’m in love with my ZX7s

[@BuffaloBarber24]

Did you have the 2019 or 2021 version?

[@brendonbonacci448]

@@BuffaloBarber24 2019. From what I’ve heard and friends who have the new model. The issue is still there. I bought them when I was a 20 handicapper, I got down to 12 and the better I got, the bigger the problem was.

[@badmuppet6532]

@@brendonbonacci448 no issues here with flyers. Perhaps that is out the middle to off centre - no club will stop distance variations from that

[@alcw625]

I got the 770 and the ball speed is faster than my old pings…different sound too…I crush the 4 iron which normally was a weaker club for me

[@2ndswing]

Great to hear! Those P770s are a great blend of a players look with explosiveness of a players-distance

[@fullsendfantasy]

I recently got fitted and tried both the P790 and ZX5 irons. Whilst I agree the 790 is longer I found that the control and feel of the ZX5’s was more than enough to sway my decision. Distance was shorter but more consistent I do remember hitting a few on the 790 which rocketed past where I expected them to be which is also a red flag for consistency - nothing worse than hitting one straight at the pin to find out it’s flown 15 yards past the green 😂

[@2ndswing]

Great points you bring up. Dispersion & consistency always wins with irons - Thomas

[@johnmartinez6897]

Did you just drop a "whilst" on us? That is awesome!

[@ironmangolfer824]

I didn’t like the 770 or 790. I’m buying the ZX5 3 iron after this video. I have srixon zx5 driver and fw 3 wood and absolutely love them

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for watching - Thomas

[@SplashFPV]

Love my 790’s best iron I have ever hit

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for watching - Thomas

[@BuffaloBarber24]

2019 or 21?

[@nordanviken4666]

Srixon is the best buy 2022😍

[@2ndswing]

Most underrated irons for sure! - Thomas

[@steve827]

I made the mistake of getting zx7 with a shallow swing… the heel relief is a hook machine , I’ve gone back to 620Mb now cause if the soles Great feeling irons the Srixon But they just are hook machines if your not steep

[@2ndswing]

Good feedback here! Thanks for watching - Thomas

[@ericfletcher2887]

You need a better fitter that will adjust your lie angle....lie angle is the critical factor for turf interaction, too upright and you pull it, too flat and you push it

[@kwalter2323]

I agree I have had a few sets of Srixons and have always hooked them too

[@douglaslounsbury8898]

I get the distance thing but don't blame the club if you can't hit the ball straight...that is on you!

[@2ndswing]

You are correct left or right that is more the user. However if the ball goes further in genral it will go further offline - Thomas

[@ajjamieson514]

I went to a fitting with Srixon irons in my sights.. 2 hours later I walked out with a smile on my face , an empty wallet and a 2 week anxious wait for my new Taylormade P-790's. They felt so good off the face and the dispersion circle was tighter compared to the Srixons.

[@LostboyXx11]

Should have hit the p790's first then the ZX5's.

[@cwugrad396]

interesting. i think the Srixon irons are massively impressive

[@2ndswing]

Very very underrated - Thomas

[@brettbrunsell5769]

Is the low spin rate an issue?

[@sportshongxi]

Z-forged vs P7MC P7MB combo!

[@2ndswing]

For better players yes Z-Forged combo with ZX7 or P7MC & P7MC - Thomas

[@mattlee1071]

I'll take my Takomo 201s over the 770s or the zx7s

[@ScottDreyfus]

Srixon FTW

[@bigbluemsp]

I would say the ZX4 is more like the 770 whereas the ZX7 is like the P7MC.

[@2ndswing]

With regards to distance the ZX7 will almost go 1 full club further than P7MC - Thomas

[@robscherer]

mizuno pro 223! I love my Zx7s though lol!

[@2ndswing]

Tough tough decisions there. You can't go wrong. - Thomas

[@brizzyboy4234]

The turd, excuse me, the toe 😂

[@2ndswing]

Haha now that's just funny - Thomas

[@douglaslounsbury8898]

Left to right dispersement is the golfer, NOT the club!

[@2ndswing]

Mostly agree with this statement. Lie angle differences between the two will also influence this - Thomas

[@fopop1567]

"Srixon is a spin killer" Both Srixon irons had more spin then the TM clubs

[@markking3779]

👍👍👍

[@dbo4506]

Why do you keep saying “explosive” and calling it the TMs rockets like it’s a good thing. You do t want a spaceship for an iron. You want consistency and dispersion. Don’t even talk to me about rockets 😂 stay on task with what an iron is actually made for. Hitting greens. Not sending it off a tee. Explosive sounds to me like flyers are on the menu. Not a good thing.

[@EannMcCullough]

Hits it 98L and says, little more draw. HA! Quack.