Golf mk3 TDI Bon Jovi 5x100 **plus running gear**

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* Plus running gear ** How to and Explained! Welcome back to the daily Golf mk3 TDI AFN Bon Jovi Tour Edition, Pt 1 of 2, in this video I start to convert from the standard 4x100 setup to the GTI,16V,VR6 5x100 setup and what VW call *Plus running Gear which as well lets you fit bigger brakes easily like 288mm or 312mm on the front, the other benefits are improved 'roll centres' and 'bump steer' with having the steering arms being shorter and at a better angle, the lower balljoint also is lower aiding the lower arms to sit more level as well.
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[@Editionone13]

Really looking forward to seeing the wheels mounted😊🤞 I just love steel rims.☝🏻

[@RestoDesignsnando]

Thank you friend.

[@PieterKuijk]

Thank you for the explanation. Now I see what is really different I think I am eventually going down this route too. Another reason to swap is there is so much more choices for wheels. Hard to find some nice A- brand wheels in 4x100

[@RestoDesignsnando]

Thank you for your support friend, yes this setup keeps the steering arms and lower triangles more level, helping steering feel, turn in and bump steer. And like you say, more choices in wheels and brakes.

[@jacroberts3204]

Just discovered your channel! Loving the content due to me having a soft spot for VE TDI engines.

[@RestoDesignsnando]

Thanks for your support friend. yes covering VE's as well as 16v's 20v's and G60's all the old stuff.

[@ergz-vr6]

Loving the golf Mk3 content

[@RestoDesignsnando]

Thanks a lot friend.

[@Project7YT]

We need to link up this year and do some mk3 madness keep it up 👊🏾

[@RestoDesignsnando]

Sounds good mate. cheers

[@jaimeromano8786]

First of all, thanks for taking your time to document this, I'm planning a Plus axle swap on my TDi Mk3 and B4 TDi, and this helps a lot... Now, may I ask why you didnt go for the complete rear beam of a 5x100 Mk3? That extra antirollbar and 3cm width difference makes deffo an improvement... Cheers, keep on with the good work!

[@RestoDesignsnando]

Thanks friend, the mk3 4x100 cars that have rear discs as standard have a rear anti roll bar in the beam and use the bigger style rear beam bushes, very much like the 5x100 plus beam, I haven't measured it but it may be the same one. I know the 4x100 mk3 with rear drums have no anti roll bar in the beam.

[@jaimeromano8786]

@@RestoDesignsnando I will let you know when I get my GTi rear beam side to side with my CL TDi basis achse + drums, but according to my years nerding about Mk3s, 3cm is what I found was the difference in widths...

[@RestoDesignsnando]

@@jaimeromano8786 That would be Cool, so drum non anti roll bar Vs 5x100 rear beam, once I get a minute I'll measure what the 4x100 disc anti roll bar beam is.

[@theafrican5222]

Great content, keep it up.

[@RestoDesignsnando]

Appreciate it! Hoping to jump back on to the mk3's very soon.

[@adinblk437]

Will this upgrade limit the max turning of wheels from side to side comparing to original setup, and would you recomed using your setup on mk2(for daily and some track usage)

[@RestoDesignsnando]

I saw no noticeable difference in the turning circle, I think it works really well on the mk2, I have plans to use the "plus" setup on my mk2 2.0 16V project.

[@J.F.K.O]

thanks for the explanation :) i have a question though. My mk2 will need new brakes in the near future, and it has the small knuckles with a fixed caliper carrier. but i would like to upgrade them to knuckles with loose carriers, so i can get some bigger brakes. So the question is will mk3 knuckles fit without fitment issues? i have quite wide rims in the front so slightly poking out, so i don't really want a knuckle that puts the wheels out further

[@J.F.K.O]

i am speaking of a 4x100 knuckle

[@RestoDesignsnando]

Thanks friend, yes get yourself some Golf mk3 4x100 knuckles/Hubs as they are plug n play and will not push the wheels out anymore than they are. With the mk3 ones you can fit 256mm 14" wheels or bigger, 280mm 15" or bigger, both are much better than the 239mm setup you have. Maybe also look at fitting a 22mm brake master cylinder which also makes a big difference.

[@J.F.K.O]

@@RestoDesignsnando cool thanks for the reply. guess i will be off to the scrap yard soon :) yeah i was working on a 3L Lupo the other day and noticed even that little thing has ventilated brakes and mine doesn't

[@RestoDesignsnando]

@@J.F.K.O Glad to reply anytime friend.

[@brhc80]

What is going on with your 200+ AFN Project?

[@RestoDesignsnando]

The 'open air' blue one right? yes more updates coming soon. As well as some other mk2's and cool old VW's

[@brhc80]

@@RestoDesignsnando yeah i mean the open air with 1z engine and BV43 Turbo

[@roruphotography]

Where can I find a list of all the parts I’ll need? I want to do this conversion but I didn’t know so many parts went into it!

[@RestoDesignsnando]

Yep this shows you everything you need plus shows the difference between the 4x100 and the benefits of 5x100. The rear is easy, The front which is the important end, you need to replace everything.

[@roruphotography]

@@RestoDesignsnando thank you so much! Now to find a donor car 🤣

[@RestoDesignsnando]

@@roruphotography Yes that may be the best way, but the outer CV joints new are not very expansive, the lower arms are also not very much, the hubs yes find used ones, the Passat B4 5x100 ones are the same, the only part which is hard to find will be the front anti roll bar.

[@roruphotography]

@@RestoDesignsnando well that gives me more options at least! Off to find a Passat!

[@roruphotography]

@@RestoDesignsnando what’s the latest year Passat I can use?