Short Game Chef debunks 7 myths that are costing you shots

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@danieljd6776
@danieljd6776 Жыл бұрын
Having watched a PGA event in person this year, I can promise you every professional I saw hitting a chip had their weight dramatically forward. I was actually surprised how exaggerated it was in person. The amount of shaft lean depended on how high they wanted to flight the chip.
@good2epic
@good2epic Жыл бұрын
Yeah these aren’t all perfect. You’ll notice his feet are way closer together than most pros too. He’s conflating weight forward with handle forward and steep stab at the ball, which you definitely don’t want.
@josephavant8700
@josephavant8700 6 ай бұрын
BRO, I CHANGED MY LIFE! BEEN THINKIN THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY. ESPECIALLY out of the sand and the weight forward chip. My daughter will be so happy to hear this too! Thank you 1,000 times!! 👌👊💪
@TheBowman5
@TheBowman5 11 ай бұрын
Man this is validating. Always have used wedges “my way” vs what I was taught 10 years ago / what KZbin videos say and “my way” had a ton of parallels with what’s deemed “modern”. Every time I put weight forward, for example, I felt like I’d hit it twice as hard as I meant to.
@dazzawoody4431
@dazzawoody4431 Жыл бұрын
Very informative, who supplies your shirts dude, they're awesome
@brianfischer4422
@brianfischer4422 4 ай бұрын
Love it!!! Absolutely great instruction! Thank you!!!
@johnhue8933
@johnhue8933 Жыл бұрын
I have tried Parker McLachlin information and found it all works , I found in chipping the tighter the lie the better it works relative to other short game coaches advice.
@andrewbryan359
@andrewbryan359 6 ай бұрын
Great lessons. They work. Where is that amazing golf course! I'm very old and not bothered by the "modern" description!
@bubbajones1035
@bubbajones1035 6 ай бұрын
I would like to see the front view of setup and ball placement for the bunker.
@vivitoisright382
@vivitoisright382 Жыл бұрын
This is an amazing Short game video, wow !! Thank you so much!!
@ST-xg3gy
@ST-xg3gy 9 ай бұрын
Can you apply this technique with older clubs?
@lapdog4135
@lapdog4135 Жыл бұрын
I don't think calling the old methods "myths" when some of the greatest players used those methods consistently, it's just the wrong word to use. IMO golf instruction is subjective and just because something is considered modern teaching doesn't mean it will work for you. I bought Phil's hinge and hold method, at the time it was the modern method. In the end it simple didn't work for me consistently but Phil is one of the greatest short game artist of all time. I recently found Dan Grieve's short game method and it really improved my game. It's totally different then Phil's with multiple releases yet I'm sure many people swear by Phil's teaching. My point is why call the "old" method myths? Look at Jack, Seve, Gary Player, Lee Trevino, Phil etc. etc. how can you argue with their success with their style of short games? I'm not disagreeing with your method just feel you're insulting some of the greatest champions in golf believing this is the end all of short game methods.
@BeefyPreacher
@BeefyPreacher Жыл бұрын
He just wants money lol. If you can arm-wave and shout that these are all myths we’ve been believing, you get more views loo
@vicpnut1
@vicpnut1 9 ай бұрын
Yeah its about the clickbait ..not that i necessarily think this type of clickbait is bad ,hes working the old myth buster ethos that originated from a show that many loved . Suppose if one were to miss that connection it would seem worse…though he did claim odds improvement of epic proportion when using the “ modern” technique. So I don’t know lol ….i take it as :if what youre doing now isnt working great try this
@vicpnut1
@vicpnut1 9 ай бұрын
Also when my chipping is not working ,i know i can depend on the chop shot he called old …it may not be great everytime but i can salvage a shitty round and at least still enjoy some of the game ….my point is I don’t know how trying to slide under a ball set in the rough is less prone to miss hit than chopping down on back of ball …in mycase not very professional but can be effective 😬
@ag358
@ag358 10 күн бұрын
He didn't go back far enough, Bobby Jones was hitting out of bunkers in what he says is the modern method. There isn't anything new in golf and Bobby used basically a nine iron I have video of him stomping a ball in the sand, he just says I take a little more sand and out it comes.
@anthonyviola9400
@anthonyviola9400 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this content very very helpful! Well done Chef!
@pawnhubchess6723
@pawnhubchess6723 9 ай бұрын
well I wonder, how much bounce is enough, you recon? I'm afraid I got too less (08° bounce). Does that still help out?
@kurtismaximusk5730
@kurtismaximusk5730 8 ай бұрын
8deg is not very helpful in bounce, 10-12 deg. is what you should be looking at
@bvarq
@bvarq Жыл бұрын
The old way works with many pros still nowadays because they are super precise and skilled with their hands. The new way is targeted to us amateurs that need a bigger margin on these kind of shots..
@Bawkzers
@Bawkzers Жыл бұрын
Also many pros have been playing golf since they were kids and taught the "old ways". They've just been doing the old ways since day 1 and probably have no reason to change since they are so good at it.
@ag358
@ag358 10 күн бұрын
This isn't new, u have Bobby Jones on video he played buried ball regular sand shots deep bunker shots all with basically a nine iron, he was square to target and didn't close his blade, he opened it up just a little and popped it next to the pin
@wd122
@wd122 11 ай бұрын
Is that filmed at The Boulders?
@jeffborders5448
@jeffborders5448 17 күн бұрын
Very helpful
@joshuawilliams-ib6yo
@joshuawilliams-ib6yo Жыл бұрын
Love the short game chef videos, keep them coming!
@mhenning219
@mhenning219 Жыл бұрын
Why did you hit the ball on your first strike and not on your second?
@Dreama40
@Dreama40 Жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT content and well delivered, this Chef knows his stuff!
@gringo19860
@gringo19860 Жыл бұрын
Sooo hard to break old habits for us oldies bought up on Jack's 'Golf My Way' etc... Good stuff here. Thank you😊
@huunguyen5280
@huunguyen5280 7 ай бұрын
thank you
@golfcom
@golfcom Жыл бұрын
What myth buster did you find most helpful??
@mntlblok
@mntlblok Жыл бұрын
Actually, a couple of *other* variations I've seen of yours. 🙂 I guess there's a subtle difference between a ball sitting "down" in the rough and one sitting "all the way down to the ground" in Bermuda rough. Your steep attack with a release at the bottom that sort of stops the club head shortly after contact for that latter case worked mind bogglingly and surprisingly well. Also had fabulous success with the first myth buster example in the bunker, but the previous video made a point of a 50/50 weight distribution and the ball in the vicinity of the middle of the stance. It got rid of my tendency to enter the sand 8, rather than the planned 2 inches behind the ball. Even warming up and making contact with that "line in the sand" became all but perfect by moving said line back to the middle of my stance.
@Dreama40
@Dreama40 Жыл бұрын
Setting up more 50/50 for chipping and having the ball more forward with less shaft lean, i tried this and the bounce definitely engages more, I found it a more forgiving method.
@ricksirisko9582
@ricksirisko9582 10 ай бұрын
Long bunker shot mystery ! I always closed the face swung steep,hard and hoped. Similar to the plugged lie. Can’t wait to try the new recipe. Old dog learning new tricks thanks chef.
@derekunderwood3356
@derekunderwood3356 Жыл бұрын
Great info!! Thanks. Ha but try telling #7 to Viktor Hovland. Weight forward on chipping is what got him to #1.
@MarkMyWordsXx
@MarkMyWordsXx 6 күн бұрын
I agree, the message here is pretty sus.
@murf6023
@murf6023 Ай бұрын
Hi Chef Thanks for these tips. What club are you using for these chip shots?
@HubertBrown-q3m
@HubertBrown-q3m Жыл бұрын
Chef theses video are legit!!! Thank you! Can you include what clubs you use and lastly talk about grip too. I noticed you use the stronger grip on the Longer chips.
@samuelcosby8318
@samuelcosby8318 Жыл бұрын
These shots are completely savage
@vicpnut1
@vicpnut1 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know how everyone does that wide open pointing way right of pin face flopshot..when ever i try it like that i either end up in direction of face to much or if i miss swing at all i skull,it across the green
@Murphmonster69
@Murphmonster69 9 ай бұрын
You have to rotate your body still
@stevemiddleton1699
@stevemiddleton1699 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant coaching Chef...thank-you for your valuable insights!
@HolyGrailOfGolf
@HolyGrailOfGolf Жыл бұрын
Good tips but try those chips from kickuyu grass with the grain against you. You're playing them from real grass but most of us aren't so lucky.
@rickm4295
@rickm4295 8 ай бұрын
That 1st "new way"plugged bunker shot didnt get out , lol. Great editing though
@ram0666
@ram0666 9 ай бұрын
Hinge and Hold method of chipping that isnt mentioned here and he doesnt do it when he tries to demonstrate is that you need hand speed to the finish. The hand speed is the main ingredient.
@cameronlawoffices898
@cameronlawoffices898 Жыл бұрын
Jordan Spieth does that short follow-through on ALL his green side bunker shots. Interesting point.
@chrisbrimhall1613
@chrisbrimhall1613 Жыл бұрын
The one issue I have is the releasing…..this takes a lot of practice because there is a possibility of releasing to earlier and striking the ball first
@thomaskozar8510
@thomaskozar8510 Жыл бұрын
Not if you do it like him, :))
@darrinlygrisse5287
@darrinlygrisse5287 Жыл бұрын
Nope actually the opposite.
@gmccluer
@gmccluer 11 ай бұрын
No one size fits all. This may work on certain lies and down grain but you will have an issue on very wet grainy lies. I use both methods depending on conditions.
@bradleystites3433
@bradleystites3433 9 ай бұрын
Wait, Wait, I’m late to the party. 😢 To Haters: His mishits (that were exaggerated, of course) were the exact result of at least 3 or 4 of your personal shots this past weekend AND more than a few of your playing partners. That’s kinda the point, most amateur or Rec players practice little to none so finding a reliable repeatable shot is progress for us. To The Rest of Us: I knocked off 8 easy strokes in the last 5 rounds even with mishits leaving me in position to only go bogey/double bogey instead of a blow up. Nothing better than a chip to 10 inches instead of a blow by….
@tompem
@tompem 7 ай бұрын
14:27...Parker..you call that open?....
@ssubotai
@ssubotai Жыл бұрын
If you hinge it over the ball instead of in the backswing?
@falelaster
@falelaster Жыл бұрын
Well, have you seen Hovlands angle off attack and chipping stats lately? And weight forward is not imperative for shaft lean.
@iangraham705
@iangraham705 Жыл бұрын
I also don’t get the link between weight forward and shaft lean/ball position. You can be weight forward, ball forward and limited shaft lean to engage bounce
@falelaster
@falelaster Жыл бұрын
@@iangraham705 Why engage the bounce, one more "random" thing that can go wrong, low-point in front of the ball means more angle off attack and more spin. If you add some hyperextention in the lead wrist you can add more loft and even more spin. Short game is often about transforming energy in to spin, long game the opposite transforming energy in to ball speed,
@iangraham705
@iangraham705 Жыл бұрын
@@falelaster when I say engage I mean present the club in such a way that the bounce can help if you don’t quite get the strike right, not deliberately try and use the bounce on every shot
@falelaster
@falelaster Жыл бұрын
@@iangraham705 Nice that means minimal shaft lean witch creates dynamic loft and spin, and if you hit it low on the face you get the gear effect spin also.
@arnoldvongvirath1088
@arnoldvongvirath1088 6 ай бұрын
Awesome, you just gave $5k free lesson thank you so much short game chef
@jordanelmquist3202
@jordanelmquist3202 10 ай бұрын
I think it’s a myth that he demonstrated the “old ways” equally and fairly 😬
@MarkMyWordsXx
@MarkMyWordsXx 6 күн бұрын
Smashes the ball 40 yards past* See, it sucks!!
@inditube2
@inditube2 Жыл бұрын
Hawaii represent
@brich2065
@brich2065 8 ай бұрын
The comedy is high regarding how intentionally pathetic the 'old way' efforts are. Not that the new methods aren't great .... That's why I'm watching.... But let's not confuse 'doesnt work' with many do it wrong or it is not perfect. Let no one forget the vast majority of tournaments won around the world have been one using the old ways. They work but are maybe not as easy or predictable
@MarkMyWordsXx
@MarkMyWordsXx 6 күн бұрын
Lol he smashes one 40yards deep and says its the tequnique hahah
@MarkMyWordsXx
@MarkMyWordsXx 6 күн бұрын
Omg the next shot too. I mean if your going to say the "old way" is bad, at least give it a good honest try. It seems like dudes just making a poor effort and blaming the style of shot
@normlang1994
@normlang1994 Жыл бұрын
Horrible strike on the first bunker shot. You actually hit the ball. It's obvious just by listening to the two shots.
@pdmv8471
@pdmv8471 Жыл бұрын
Uh, as an old guy, your open set-up was not correct as how I was taught in the late 60s early 70s. Ball position was way too forward for how open your stance was.
@jewofgolf
@jewofgolf 8 ай бұрын
Feet and shoulders open, ball around center of stance, face right of target, release the hands. I agree he's not understanding the old way.
@Blue_Dun
@Blue_Dun Жыл бұрын
Face on slow motion on the bunker shot would have been helpful. And you mention hands back a little on flop, but camera view from behind doesnt show us what you nean exactly. Better canera views needed!
@Frank-pi2gz
@Frank-pi2gz Жыл бұрын
THE OLD WAYS HAVE WORKED. YOU COULD HAVE PURPOSELY MISS HIT THEM
@Blue_Dun
@Blue_Dun Жыл бұрын
Yep...lots of fantastic bunker players in history using the old school methods
@chasehamm4467
@chasehamm4467 Жыл бұрын
Why do you even watch game improvement videos you clearly know everything?
@darrinlygrisse5287
@darrinlygrisse5287 Жыл бұрын
They work, but this is easier. I always had a good short game, but the modern techniques make it more consistent. Just as he described.
@vicpnut1
@vicpnut1 Жыл бұрын
Why yell it ?😂
@Jake-hy5il
@Jake-hy5il Жыл бұрын
I can do bot; but I certainly hit the pin a lot more and skull the ball into the lip a lot less with the modern technique😂
@thomaskozar8510
@thomaskozar8510 Жыл бұрын
can you travel to germany and teach me personally for all summer long. i'll pay your green fees.
@eriksvideos6022
@eriksvideos6022 7 ай бұрын
Phil Mickelson has screwed up thousands of amateur golfers' short games. 😂
@10jodeo
@10jodeo Жыл бұрын
The only person on earth playing that style flop is Scottie. And is hands are one in a million. You can’t recommend that to the average golfer…. Close to the ball open face is a shank for 99%. GTO
@darrinlygrisse5287
@darrinlygrisse5287 Жыл бұрын
The only person on earth? Hardly. Lots of pros do, Patrick agreed comes to mind, JT etc etc. maybe this is why you perceive them to have good hands.
@mgrassodirector
@mgrassodirector Жыл бұрын
While I enjoyed the video I can't let it go by without a couple of comments. First and foremost, your use of the term 'modern' for contemporary golfers has a pejorative ring that rankles. By default, it puts every major player who came before you, in a dismissive, 'old-timer' category. Even more irritating is the fact that when you were demonstrating the older 'non-modern' techniques you did it half-heartedly, without actually trying to make the shot work.
@TuMadre1337
@TuMadre1337 8 ай бұрын
He should have said antiquated method or pre millennia.
@josephavant8700
@josephavant8700 6 ай бұрын
OH GIVE ME A BREAK!! YOU SERIOUSLY SPEMT TIME COMMENTING ABOUT YPUR FEELINGS ON A GOLF TIP KZbin?! UNREAL SENSI-POO! HE IS SHOWING US INNOVATION IN THE GAME WITH MODERN TECHNOLOGY! KEEP ON 😥, I'LL BE POSTING LOWER SCORES!✌
@mgrassodirector
@mgrassodirector 6 ай бұрын
Are you serious? You spent time talking to me!!’
@josephavant8700
@josephavant8700 6 ай бұрын
@@mgrassodirectorComeback of the YEAR 1987
@samuelscreech
@samuelscreech 6 ай бұрын
The previous generations did what they did because of the equipment they had. If they had the newer equipment they'd be using these techniques
@truthlifefishing1730
@truthlifefishing1730 Жыл бұрын
"Professional golfers don't play their bunker shots (open stance etc, as explained) like that anymore." So what you're telling me is that they used to? Is the sand different? Any other factors? Flop shot, "straight up in the air" WOW, STRAIGHT UP.? Ok, I didn't know the ball went "straight up." And again, this is not myth busting this is just a "new way" if that. You can call it "modern" all you want, that doesn't mean the old way is wrong, but wait, the new way is your way so it must be special and shiny. "Hinge & Hold"...."I'm hinging and I keep missing the ball because my club is the air, my name is Parker." Next time ask a golfer. Long Bunker shot, again, I don't think you really understand what this myth busting means. And NO, you don't have to play the "plugged bunker shot with the closed, square club face." It isn't a dictatorship. "Chipping from the rough" all this has been covered Parker, OH WAIT, a new method for the 42 HCP golfer who plays golf with a scythe. "Weight Forward when chipping" is that a myth? It is recommended by Phil Mickelson. Next time use a dictionary to look up the hard words so you know what you're talking about.
@MarkMyWordsXx
@MarkMyWordsXx 6 күн бұрын
He claimed it was because wedges have changed
@borr2034
@borr2034 8 ай бұрын
God you know your stuff!
@Evan_Rodgers
@Evan_Rodgers Жыл бұрын
Disagree with the bunker philosophy. The old way has more consistent sand entry that’s steeper.
@darrinlygrisse5287
@darrinlygrisse5287 Жыл бұрын
Then You aren’t doing it right.
@TheThreatenedSwan
@TheThreatenedSwan 5 ай бұрын
The old way has way more variance. Even if the best case is better, golf is a game of misses.
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