The high and soft thing is fascinating - I was always taught to "always try to end up below the hole" - this is a great piece of knowledge to add to the arsenal!
@Randsurfer8 ай бұрын
Ending up below the hole applies more to the approach shot to the green and especially with extreme slopes.
@riggz54965 ай бұрын
@@ythandlerandom1278LK yep I used to end up so far below the hole thinking like that. Since watching this I’ve left myself waaay better putts. It was a good video
@bman45278 ай бұрын
I’m over reading every putt for the next 6 months now
@lukekerrdineen8 ай бұрын
'atta boy 🤣
@MrLuigiFercotti7 ай бұрын
Especially on those left to right breakers.
@joshuaharris31457 ай бұрын
How soon did you skull one low after writing this?
@samuelchoisamchoi7147 ай бұрын
This is soo good! This series is phenomenal.
@lukekerrdineen8 ай бұрын
Hey guys! It's LKD. Hope you enjoyed our most recent Game Plan video. Drop any questions you have in the comments below, and I'll answer them!
@jimlahey39198 ай бұрын
Thanks LKD. Hey, I seen that your favorite swing tempo is Max Homa. Now, is that current, or of all time? Max certainly is right up there with Couples, Els, Oousthuizen, etc. Louis O has always been my favorite tempo and swing in the world of golf. I think he has the most picture perfect, technically sound swing in the game.
@gamebaggolf8 ай бұрын
Insightful as ever! Would you be open to doing any analysis on how players develop a winning mindset e.g. Bryson says he's played a lot off the red tees to learn what it feels like to go low, and this shows in some of his scores e.g. Greenbrier and recently the PGA - contrast this with many other great players who just can't seem to push through to the end when the pressure mounts. Are there any patterns in this more subjective aspect of the game?
@josephsoto7278 ай бұрын
I love this series!! I went to Pinehurst 2 years ago and I can't wait to go back. Truly the golf Mecca
@buc4ever198 ай бұрын
Keep these videos up LKD. They are incredible
@craighattam2838 ай бұрын
I have enjoyed every one of your Game Plan episodes. Great Stuff. Love Golf IQ podcast as well. Does this make me a golf nerd?
@hietanbs8 ай бұрын
This video series is awesome, keep them up!
@lukekerrdineen8 ай бұрын
Thanks! We love doing them
@thegreenkeeper25377 ай бұрын
Added benefit of over-reading. When your subconscious knows what the line is then if you hit it too low, you’ll actually hit it a little harder in order to make it. Over-reading will make you hit it a little softer. Result = closer second putt.
@Railerik8 ай бұрын
I got a tee time in 30 mins, the timing of this video dropping is perfect!
@Ashley.Toft648 ай бұрын
How’s the round going
@Railerik8 ай бұрын
@@Ashley.Toft64 Just birdied the 2nd hole. 1 under so far. 😎
@nebaseball67 ай бұрын
Courses near me in PA, putting when you’re off the green isn’t an option due to the higher, thicker rough. Taking your lowest lofted club you can use for the shot however, is usually your best bet.
@jlwmkkp8 ай бұрын
Great video. High vs. low side segment was useful and make zone makes me want to practice more short putts and expand the zone!
@lukekerrdineen8 ай бұрын
You got it!! A lot of people see a 15 footer and think that’s in their make zone, when in reality, it’s not.
@zsommers17 ай бұрын
LOVE Golf digest giving away all the secrets!!!
@shaneshort32167 ай бұрын
This is the VERY best golf content, thank you!
@tomotto12988 ай бұрын
Lucky enough to play there once, our caddy described the greens like trying to hit a golf ball onto a sleeping elephant. Perfect analogy in my opinion
@lolobuggah26707 ай бұрын
Great tips for better scores.
@Jorge_Alvarez18 ай бұрын
Question for LKD! Regarding lag putting, do you recommend lining up the ball or not? I consciously don’t on lag putts so that my focus is on the entire putt, not just the line. I line it up on putts inside ~20 feet that I’m trying to make, but maybe I’d be better off not with those putts as well. Cheers!
@lukekerrdineen8 ай бұрын
I’d say what you do is close to what most pros do. They’ll use the line on the ball mostly on straight putts, and/or putts inside 10 feet (the third scoring circle) and freewheel everything else. 20 feet seems a *little* far too be using the line, but ultimately it’s whatever makes you feel comfy and confident
@Jorge_Alvarez18 ай бұрын
@@lukekerrdineen thanks for the reply! Will try tightening that range up to inside 10 feet and tempering my expectations with the flat stick 🤣 can’t hurt to match what the pros do 👊
@williamgarry26358 ай бұрын
I still think that you should “line up” to the break that you read on those long putts, and then forget about it and FOCUS ON THE RIGHT SPEED. You will find that it is often the difference between a 10’ second putt & and a >3’-4’ second putt… I will often try to find a mark on the green that is on my line within 12” of my ball and just try to make the ball run over that spot with the right speed so that I’m “lined up” but I’d rather obsess over the pace than the line on a long putt. And of course, the speed of the putt determines how much break you play!!!
@nowaythatnamewastakn8 ай бұрын
I don't use ball lines, I draw imaginary lines on the green with my eyes and putt on those lines.
@jerryturner23108 ай бұрын
@@nowaythatnamewastakn Yes. I do the same thing! Plus, my belly doesn't like me bending down too much to line up the line on the ball. LOL
@RuairiODonnellFOTO7 ай бұрын
Loved Payne Stewart. RIP. Great golfer, great style. Nothing was boring about Payne
@tnusplyrmb7 ай бұрын
I half agree with missing the read high above the whole. If you miss it high, you may have a severe slope finishing putt even tho it's closer. Missing it low sometimes leaves you with a 4 to 5 ft finishing putt BUT it's more likely it's directly downhill of the hole leaving you with a straight uphill putt which is more forgiving. My 2 cents
@MNL543217 ай бұрын
I get what you’re saying but I think, especially for amateurs, golfers are more likely to pull and push putts the further the ball has to roll. So in essence, proximity beats out more break
@ollyw28977 ай бұрын
I’d never considered the missing high thing. Really interesting. I’d rather have a 2 foot downhill. Than a 6 foot uphill I think.
@pauldolan64598 ай бұрын
Great video thanks
@shortexposureastrophotogra49887 ай бұрын
They didn't mention the rainsuit Payne Stewart was wearing when he won the 1999 US Open. He cut the sleeves off so it didn't interfere with his swing.
@sionnachog8944 ай бұрын
And he cut the bottoms off his trousers!
@barrysfriend3828 ай бұрын
this is great!!
@pobodysnerfect92707 ай бұрын
I love this channel
@jefftaylor86447 ай бұрын
Great video.
@MichaelJones-ff9gb8 ай бұрын
Great content, thank you!
@lukekerrdineen8 ай бұрын
Thank YOU
@Justilineous7 ай бұрын
1:02 ohhhh I went to pinehurst and JUST NOW SEEING THAT THIS WAS HIM😢😢😢
@douglasolsson77688 ай бұрын
I use a bit of aim point. I don't walk it but know that most putts are 0% to 3% slope and make my best guess and use the fingers at arm length to get my spot. Works for me. I'm consistently near the hole while my friends under read it and fall well below the hole.
@dabdias8 ай бұрын
I have had exactly the same experience since I started to use aimpoint. I took an aimpoint class to help with my short putts, but it ended up helping a lot with the long putts too because of under-reading putts much less often.
@dr.frankenputz8657 ай бұрын
I would much rather have a 6-8 footer up hill than a 3-4 footer down hill with break on fast greens but that's probably why I am a 10 handicap🤣
@lukekerrdineen7 ай бұрын
Statistically, you're more likely to make the scary downhill short putt!
@mikejones-go8vz7 ай бұрын
10 handicap is an honest handicap, if you don’t practice, then you are a good player
@LT17 ай бұрын
Up hill is so much harder.
@squirrelydan37 ай бұрын
I over-read most of my putts in my last round. The trouble is, some of them had hardly any break at all, so they didn't end up any closer to the hole than if I'd gone to the other side 🙃. I was misreading everything it seemed like. Usually, the medium range putts are the one thing I have confidence in.
@Geekermo5 ай бұрын
Low stimp crappy greens in which all mortal golfers as you and me play do not break like the greens in Augusta.
@slurma7 ай бұрын
Who's here after seeing Bryson win for Payne
@12mmratchet844 ай бұрын
Avoiding a 3 putt is easy if you just do it in 5
@JF-kb5cy7 ай бұрын
what is meant by high when he said hit it high and soft? he still talking about puts right?
@jettjones98897 ай бұрын
Over read the putt (on purpose) and have just enough pace to get to the hole.
@jacole12347 ай бұрын
A better way to explain is if you read a break (lets say right to left slope/break to the hole) you will end up closer to the hole if you over aim to the right of the hole (above the hole), than if you aim too low (too far left in this case). A miss above the break/hole ends up 2-3x closer than if you aim too low. Make sense?
@tomsefton4918 ай бұрын
Do you predict that the player with the best greens in regulation stat combined with best lag putting is going to win at Pinehurst….?
@industrialpalletworx35487 ай бұрын
No. The best shots gained approach and top 5 shots gained putting will be your winner.
@Malhorne7 ай бұрын
SO TRUE
@mrmanyouare7 ай бұрын
It’s all about the drip. RIP mr Stewart
@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb7 ай бұрын
We miss Payne all these years later.
@Tone25938 ай бұрын
Alright lets see how I do tomorrow
@dagg3107 ай бұрын
most of the courses i play have that crappy turtle shell shape....and elevated greens.... and small , firm greens almost make it impossible to hold any kind of second shot to the green. always have to hit it short and hope it rolls up to the pin. any type of miss either bounces off the back or rolls off the sides. very frustrating, especially for weekend golfers just trying to enjoy the game. courses need to stop doing this crap
@roryblake32327 ай бұрын
I played on like that recently. Only about 20 percent of 1 green was flat approach. The rest was a pitch onto a severely raised green
@ccos19604 ай бұрын
I chalk it up to everyday greenskeepers setting up pin placements. Be kind to yourself. Some places I call "homes of the Three-putt." There, a three-putt is as good as a two-putt. And a two or a one? Give yourself the credit for making good plays. Laugh as you watch your partners pick-up after four putts.
@dagg3104 ай бұрын
@@ccos1960 oh yes...pin placements. i just played a course...one hole was a dog leg left...i hit a perfect drive....get up to my ball....look at the green....there was a tree off to the right side of the fairway....the pin was right behind the tree. so i just hit a perfect drive and now i can't ever go for the pin. not only that....the second shot was over water and right in front of the green was a bunker. felt like it was sunday at augusta !....lol. and of course all that frustrated me and i hit it thin into the water....lol
@honuputters18917 ай бұрын
Why do we never see a putting video on a green that is in the condition that most golfers usually play on?
@RuairiODonnellFOTO7 ай бұрын
Because it's not putting, it's gardening!
@sandbiatcada7 ай бұрын
A hidden strategy is to putt into the hole or close to the hole...
@LanceCampeau7 ай бұрын
turtleback greens SUCK
@kamikazefireball7 ай бұрын
Totally agree - it's a gimmick not a feature. Already sick of hearing about Donald Ross and his stupid greens and the tournament hasn't even started.
@repoman21157 ай бұрын
I prefer the greens to be more bowl shaped
@sturdy_boi7 ай бұрын
RIP Stewart
@FiveFootFore7 ай бұрын
Donald Ross is a menace.
@dddmmm218 ай бұрын
How to avoid 3 putts = Putt better!
@geoffcohen6137 ай бұрын
Note Payne used a bullseye putter, still the best putters around for feel.
@patrickobrien94817 ай бұрын
It was a Seemore putter
@arnoldvongvirath10887 ай бұрын
John Daily commented is kind of unprofessional, you are playing for the big pay-check and you are top world ranking suck it up and finish your jobs, faire or unfair who cares?
@Auguste107 ай бұрын
lol ok bro. 1) Clearly you don’t know Daly and 2) this was how many years ago? 😂
@bigPOPPAmarbeans7 ай бұрын
JD unprofessional? No way man. Ain’t no way.
@davidtomsett8 ай бұрын
Poor Payne, what a way to go, crash landing in the middle of nowhere.
@IverKnackerov8 ай бұрын
He probably went at 30,000 ft through lack of oxygen …same thing that got the pilot.
@industrialpalletworx35487 ай бұрын
They just went to "sleep" due to lack of oxygen. Probably really peaceful actually.
@blakephillips86887 ай бұрын
Is it just me or does the 10 min video not really tell us much. Except for “over reading putt” which doesn’t even tell us how to over read putts”. They are like yeah they have to put good and only miss it by 2 ft so they don’t miss by 6ft because that’s their strategy. Ohhh I get it their strategy is to play good golf ?? Dangggg I wish I would’ve thought of that. I’m going to start magically reading putts now. And they didn’t really even really tell us what was Payne Stewart’s strategy. All they said was get close to the hole. Like duhh okay don’t we all
@carlosbeltranfan157 ай бұрын
I thought the same haha. They also didn’t have a “formula” for putting. The conclusion was just “that’s why pros practice putting. So they can make those putts that they otherwise wouldn’t” ok lol
@LT17 ай бұрын
Sounds like you didn't really pay attention. The strategy is to minimize risk. Don't try to hole a 40 foot putt and risk going past the hole, just get it close. Don't hit chip shots when you're inches off the green, it likely won't be as close as just putting to get close. The only part that's be good at golf is to make the close ones. Which yeah the video says you have to practice.
@danielberlin59687 ай бұрын
Are you guys stupid? This is the formula: - 50ft+ / off the green: minimize risk, use low lofted clubs when possible. - 10ft to 50ft: optimize for over reading, goal is to leave shortest second putt. - 10ft and in: you need to make these. Grind them. Every putt you miss in this range is losing shots in the SG world. This is about strategy, not mechanics. You’re responsible for figuring out how to execute against the optimal strategy.
@user-xn7uh5ch2z5 ай бұрын
@@danielberlin596810ft make rate is quite low for amateurs. Practicing 7 ft is more practical
@andrewpugh93227 ай бұрын
Instructions unclear....I 5 putted
@JD-ev1ujАй бұрын
You practice. That's how.
@RanceMcManus3 ай бұрын
Have hours per week to practice putting.
@nolo38 ай бұрын
so get it closer to the hole lol
@nateassenheimer74398 ай бұрын
These stats are different than what lou stagner says
@georgec51517 ай бұрын
tl;dw: they practice every day
@taylormit7 ай бұрын
They also make 99% inside 6 feet.
@Dropandrun7 ай бұрын
It’s actually about 60% inside 6ft
@aliasErEf6 ай бұрын
@@DropandrunI always find difficult to read fake news even more on golf by amateurs experts. You’re right….and even after 6 feet it drops dramatically fast even for Professionals.
@emilgabl9069Ай бұрын
Why we live in a world of make believe now…it’s the new smart.
@GentlemanJamesWin8 ай бұрын
"The average is 2 feet max" is a nonsensical sentence.
@DrMaccers7 ай бұрын
"Harman at the European Championship" You mean The Open?!
@squidlesfiddles7 ай бұрын
He said The Open, you dweeb....
@fudhater85928 ай бұрын
Imaging making millions of dollars by hitting a ball with a stick
@cluman17 ай бұрын
You talking about baseball? Lol. Athletes are extremely over paid.
@glenngriggs64457 ай бұрын
Trying doing it at that level
@50--117 ай бұрын
Imagine making tens of millions via the stocks your grandfather bought.
@touristguy875 ай бұрын
Blub blub blub blub blub...
@jackmealor84558 ай бұрын
This video says a whole lot of nothing while acting like it’s intellectual. TLDR: Putt off the green if you can
@riggz54968 ай бұрын
1. Putt off the green, 2. Miss high not low, 3. Practice your 50% putt
@firstname73308 ай бұрын
You need a "pop filter" on your microphone. The way you pronounce the letter P is highly annoying.
@lukekerrdineen8 ай бұрын
I’ll get on that!
@marksiddall3798 ай бұрын
European championship? You mean THE open
@15cuhonda67 ай бұрын
Crap to confuse you
@rbslammed61637 ай бұрын
Might as well have simply stated: “your more likely to make more puts if you are better at making puts” Totally pointless video
@ParawayGolf7 ай бұрын
Not pointless but I agree it's a bit longer than necessary. Really the main takeaway should be err on the side of missing higher on longer putts. That's actually VERY helpful advice.
@MrLuigiFercotti7 ай бұрын
Brilliant take. I’m sure you’re killing it on the greens.
@traderphil19677 ай бұрын
@@MrLuigiFercotti 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@aaronmarsman8 ай бұрын
TF is that guy wearing lol
@johnmiller76828 ай бұрын
Are you kidding? That's Payne Stewart, RIP. That was his style. Of course I'm assuming that's who you're talking about. Hence the reason he wore it. He wanted to stand out.