GOML X - Marss (ZSS) Vs. Riddles (Kazuya) Smash Ultimate - SSBU

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[@Saucyandrew]

Oh NOW I get when people say “simply don’t get hit”

[@dansu1503]

The crowd when Riddles lands a full zero to death: 😴 The crowd when Riddles rapidly crouch dash cancels back and forth: 😱😱😱

[@idontwant2beasoldiermama241]

Amlo

[@monkey9186]

They were cheering for another set lmaooo

[@hazie9935]

@@monkey9186no they weren’t 😭 literally every time riddles started crouch dashing they started gasping

[@adamquenano8563]

NgL, from afar I thought Riddles had a massive forehead until I saw the headband up close

[@HansWurst-vg8iu]

same

[@Eris_Greyrat]

He needs to make that band skin color next time to to meme with people

[@flavi0r]

Riddles looking like trey from pokemon

[@ricardoortiz3174]

i THOUGHT HIS FOREHEAD WAS THAT LONG

[@Master1Morrison]

I was thinking of sanaki from fire emblem path of radiance

[@flavi0r]

@@ricardoortiz3174 lmao 😂

[@flavi0r]

@@Master1Morrison not a bad one either lol

[@sodapop939]

@@Master1MorrisonBruh you reminded me of the bandanna-less Sanaki from feh💀

[@guillermotrujillo5575]

Never a boring match watching Marss

[@Shaheemswaggedout]

He's trash lol

[@yaelgonzalez5566]

​​@@Shaheemswaggedoutwhat 😭😭 he's literally the best zss and got top 16 here wym

[@ellachino4799]

Dawg no need to project, we already knew what you were​@@Shaheemswaggedout

[@Shaheemswaggedout]

@@ellachino4799 he beat an inconsistent player in kola and got bopped by riddles lol

[@gunslinger9786]

​@@Shaheemswaggedout we know you are

[@thegameexplainer4092]

Both players are very skilled, so no disrespect, but ZSS has to work so much harder lol. Like I was watching that whole set and watching Marss maneuver around Kazuya for 4 games, then riddles gets one opening and suddenly ZSS is dead. It's that simple for Kazuya Edit: Jesus Christ both comments I put down talking about the nature of the game have full blown arguments going on in them. Those talking about how kazuya is still hard and it's not easy to just get one opening and win, I agree with you. That's why I said both players are skilled. This is just the nature of the matchup and ZSS has to play almost perfect to not give kazuya an opening. I am not saying riddles isn't skilled. For those saying it's easier for Kazuya or disrespecting riddles for using kazuya (who isn't even top 10 in my opinion so why are we hating on kazuya) you are also wrong, ZSS Kazuya is even according to riddles as well so. For those curious this was my second comment detailing my view of this, please stop arguing about the same thing again and again. For all those hating on riddles and glazing marss, this is just the game. They both put in an insane amount of work and they both just played the matchup. ZSS tries to zone, and Kazuya tries to find an opening and tries to end stocks with an opening.

[@Tamago_nextt]

yeah as a zss main thats pretty sad, zss in theory has a much better neutral but she cant whiff once, but for some reason marss was not changing his di line in kazuya combos thats a huge thing when fighting kazuya...

[@melomitchell8714]

This applies to about 80 to 90 percent of the roster when facing against Kaz

[@theexaltedlt8222]

Marss could have played the matchup better. He wasn't changing his di alot

[@MrMadnessCrime]

Alternatively you could just argue that all ZSS has to do is camp and space kaz out. Also bad combo counterplay for Mars

[@eatingyoshi4403]

​@@Tamago_nexttdoesn't kazuya have tech that covers that?

[@mandalorianhunter1]

This set was crazy ZSS can jump around Kazayu and edge guard the hell out of him, but ZSS being a high faller and being light makes zero to deaths much easier on her. These two are amazing

[@CipherKnighto]

Fastfaller?

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@@CipherKnighto their are multiple falling speed categories. Fast faller, high faller, average faller, floaty and more

[@instahswap]

@@mandalorianhunter1idk bro not a single person on the planet has referred to a character as a high faller 😭 they’re just on a spectrum between floaty and fast faller - quite floaty or super fast faller etc etc Also whether a character is light or not doesn’t really make a difference on how difficult they are to zero to death as kazuya. If you’re able to do the electric dash forward nair DI option select then you most likely can perform the extra loop to do it on super heavies, the main factor with characters being hard to combo as kaz is weird hurtbox interactions that make certain combo routes fail, like w diddy and gren

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@@instahswap That's a big stretch because I have been using it for years, sorry you want to keep using outdated terminology. Get out of here with that crap quite floaty and super fast faller are definitely not a thing lmao. I'm saying it makes it easier for Kazuya to end ZSS sooner dang what's up with you? Make your own post if you have such a problem. It's only bothering you and the other guy.

[@instahswap]

@@mandalorianhunter1 I’m just confused about you insisting that some terminology exists when I’ve never once heard anyone mention it, ESPECIALLY if your qualification for it existing is just saying you’ve used it for years 😭 makes you sound like you’ve never been to an offline event and just insist on some shit you made up

[@adamisdracora2091]

Marss is so good at getting out of kazuya combos early Genuinely something other players could take notes from imo

[@farewell418]

Honestly not really, he didn’t mix up and just held away (which isn’t optimal) on his DI, he could’ve easily won this set if he had a bit more experience. However, I will give this to Marss, his mixups on ferps tech and his recoveries were all really good, he did that really well. The true reason how Marss was escaping these electric combos is because of ZSS frame 2 escape options like airdodge that most characters don’t have. Not discrediting Marss by any means, he chose his character and i’m not gonna discredit him for choosing a character with amazing escape options, that’s good on him.

[@hazie9935]

He truly didn’t do that well with escaping combos. Especially when constantly DI’ing away from stage at edge. Literal worst option you can do is DI away at ledge. Multiple ferps techs could’ve been avoided also

[@guillermotrujillo5575]

That nair flip kick spikes on any day at the end of game 2

[@steve-ok2090]

Yeah it’s called they nerfed her

[@guillermotrujillo5575]

@@steve-ok2090 ZSS main and sometimes it hits spikes and someone times is doesn’t

[@nathanlevesque7812]

@@steve-ok2090 good

[@JoseGarcia-zw2tn]

Dude riddles parry game got so much better!! I bet from playing SF6

[@jakedanley9833]

15:49 I'm 99% sure he could've recovered, but either didn't realize it at the time, or he chose to try to kill Riddles with flip kick instead and SD'd for it

[@TheGreatSammyJack]

Man, that was such wild gameplay. Marss was spacing everything perfectly at times, able to hit Riddle's shield without being grabbed, getting EWGF, or any other out of shield option. Made him look like Riddles was fighting a fly. ...and then Kazuya Invuln frames kick in to save the day. Love to see it.

[@omegalilbchass8270]

What did he do wrong lol

[@Curleyconcon]

He lost a half dozen interactions and then KAZUYA MISHIMA. That's literally it.

[@Luc-jq5wp]

Marss deserved to take this one

[@thelordoftheweebs9501]

He will one day

[@Ed95366]

Not really. At the end of the day, Riddles won the match.

[@Jinxypoo100]

@@Ed95366not in my eyes

[@nassoltd]

@@Jinxypoo100Bro he got outplayed simple as that

[@JosephRuvelas]

@@nassoltd hes saying that because ZSS has to work way harder to win. kaz lives to higher percents and can kill off 1 hit lol not saying thats riddles fault, but kaz has always been broken asf. even reading di is easy with kaz combos because the hit stun shows the blue trajectory line super clearly

[@Toomuchmetal12]

That was such an abrupt end to the set that everyone was dead silent

[@Luc-jq5wp]

This is pure high level play at its finest

[@TheBroCouch]

Kazuya gotta be wearing skates the way Riddles just glides back and forth with him lmao

[@N-cubed]

Why does it look so intimidating 😂

[@vince1523]

@@N-cubedbecause it’s fucking Kazuya lmao

[@N-cubed]

@@vince1523 Kazuya is just a sneaker junkie bro

[@zeropointgravity9051]

Love both of these players, they both played extremely well here. Marss' spacing was immaculate!

[@omarmartinez4487]

Lot of people don’t know but if your character has a particular high jump you can jump out of his second nair (assuming you didn’t get spike to death) and footstool kazuya for a reverse edge guard

[@Cyrath89]

So they release a half baked char and nintendo was like 'bye bye support'

[@RawmGarcia]

even worse the "community" said: "OK n_n" we banned items, smash ballsand almost all stages but the no one wanna draw that line with kazuya and steve, why?

[@ssj4922]

13:50 this entire second stock here is crazy, Marss nudging inch by inch landing his laser setups one after another but failing at the very read and not being secure the stock while Riddles is just holding on, not losing his composure until he manages to find that one opportunity to take the kill

[@psi-kick6003]

He hit the win button, it didn't deserve this analysis.

[@mrmediocre848]

Team fundies can try to outplay as much as they want, the Kazuyas of the world will destroy them regardless, it turns out

[@Micahmorriscousin]

Riddles matt stonie cosplay with the hair and headband 😂

[@steve-ok2090]

I will never forgive Nintendo for what they did to ZSS. I counted at least 3 stocks that would’ve been granted to Zss pre nerf. Meanwhile, Kazuya sneezes and Marss dies. Gives me ulcers to watch.

[@gcb-721]

I almost never see nair flip kick work anymore. But kazuya has many ways to instantly take a stock

[@XxJamespwnsxX]

real

[@steve-ok2090]

@@gcb-721 because (I pointed out in his match between Kola), players know how to DI it now…! Which of course is going to happen in late meta.

[@bringbringish]

​@@steve-ok2090 More or less, but the nerf gave more leeway to escape the combo

[@OdaGoda957]

Real shit dude, most undeserved nerfs in ultimate. Not even balancing nerfs just straight up made her worse and gave nothing to compensate.

[@aseulgi]

great set! Marrs looked smooth as hell with ZSS 🔥

[@raven-a]

Marrs kinda nervous, forward smash was deff a missinput and he really got antsy on that first set, being way too aggressive. If he plays more chill and less scared I can see him winning easily, he made it very close even if he was playing so scared, it seemed

[@ledrew2370]

Can somebody please tell Marss how to flip kick while stalling momentum.

[@Rocco_lifts]

Highkey fw the headband

[@rickybyrd660]

Mars kills looked so nice, win or lose his kills looked so clean. Be proud Mars 👏

[@tims6407]

Bro i mained Zss and Kazuya because of both of these guys and seeing them go at it is so insane😭

[@bubs4581]

Riddles has his hair ON POINT.

[@monologgue]

Marss needs to go snake for this matchup it is so much better of a matchup and his snake is op

[@ambush4144]

Riddles beat hurt

[@bringbringish]

ZSS is fine, he just need to practice this MU more

[@sergiooliva2517]

Nice set! Congrats to riddles!🎉

[@haydenbennett3547]

Th ZSS nerf is real and hurts to watch in real time

[@TheHogfatherInvades]

I havent watched marss in years. Man, hes gotten spicy

[@Maximusprime24]

Riddles bandana makes it look like he has a five head

[@MrNostalgic23]

Man I want ZSS to be better so bad. Great match for both players tho!

[@vanitazd326]

Please buff zss :c

[@0v3rthnkngsklls68]

Or nerf kazuya

[@zeropointgravity9051]

@@0v3rthnkngsklls68 Why nerf Kaz? He's a solid A+ish character.

[@zeropointgravity9051]

ZSS is already a solid character where it stands. You guys love glazing Marss by blaming it on characters, huh?

[@eddiealva9751]

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT NARE OR NAIR ACTUALLY IS. Pleeeeeeeeease.

[@JoelGarcia-lu3tw]

Neutral Air

[@ivy1418]

Nair stands for Neutral-Air (or Neutral Aerial Attack). It's when you jump and then hit the A button without touching your stick. I hope I was understandable, if you still have questions you can ask!

[@eddiealva9751]

OMG THANKS GUYS! 🙏 I always asked myself. Yep. I get it now. I won’t feel lost anymore! 🙂

[@therockazoid1723]

Riddles was spraying daggers before the match.

[@usern4metak3ns]

so all zss needs is super armor and intangible input grab, oof.

[@Alibaba-id1cs]

Sad that Marss lost to Onin and Riddles but the content creator is back though

[@I.Magnus]

My Goat popped off against DLC

[@dejeandesire8080]

L & and he got fundied and better playered the whole set

[@I.Magnus]

@@dejeandesire8080 😂😂😂 Facts he thought it was a skill game when it was really ZSS sucks and better player with clear better main😂😂

[@dejeandesire8080]

@@I.Magnus great watch but he did sell maybe he’s in his bron era

[@I.Magnus]

@dejeandesire8080 Ehh the competitive scene different he gotta re lock in 😁 The last set v Kola was crazy🤷🏾‍♂️

[@dejeandesire8080]

@@I.Magnus he can still be goat and get cheesed/ sell, it-happens, his snake no diffs imo LOL 🙇🏾‍♂️

[@SosaHITM]

Riddles lookin like miami LeBron

[@croconardo1045]

I have nothing but respect for the time and effort Riddles has put into Kazuya But Kazuya as a character is just not fun to play against and blatantly unfair at times

[@craigmoon2121]

💯

[@handles438]

eh, I find it kinda hard to have respect for the guy when he openly admitted multiple times in an interview that Kazuya is "pretty broken" (his words) and continues to use him.

[@Felixtav12]

Better player wins GOML!

[@corgitoergosum8400]

Marss taking a game is honestly more than I thought would happen in this mu 💀 I don't mean to be rude but his record versus Kazuya is ass. Looks winnable though, so there's hope. I can see why Riddles still called it an even mu.

[@N-cubed]

Riddles think almost every Kazuya matchup is even aka skill issue lol

[@corgitoergosum8400]

@@N-cubed I think Kazuya beats Zero suit and some of the other matchups he was kind of stingy about. But he has a pretty good mu chart.

[@Aeros802]

@10:19 Action and commentary, LMAO!

[@Whalordius]

Hopefully this shuts up the zair camper people lol

[@Tamago_nextt]

so what can we do instead of that, vs a character that does 70%+ per interaction ?

[@Whalordius]

@@Tamago_nextt nothing 💀💀💀

[@Tamago_nextt]

@@Whalordius 🥲

[@Whalordius]

@@Tamago_nextt the only way you win is by playing perfectly. The same applies to Steve. Steve players just don't use their tech because they're lazy as fuck

[@mercurysnake274]

@@Tamago_nexttPlay better

[@delbysgamaliel3426]

Que justo

[@revengeoftheshreks1860]

4:19 Zero suit Mario?

[@thegameexplainer4092]

For all those hating on riddles and glazing marss, this is just the game. They both put in an insane amount of work and they both just played the matchup. ZSS tries to zone, and Kazuya tries to find an opening and tries to end stocks with an opening.

[@caiobotelho5884]

Yea but Kazuya being Kazuya just making things much easier. Nothing you can do about wind god fist. Marss has to work twice as hard, watch pressure so he doesn’t get hit ONCE, and even with speed marss has to execute and perform more reads. Kazuya is just a boring af character

[@mrdemonictaco5879]

​@@caiobotelho5884 mars can use the same character too. No excuse

[@michaelwu7678]

​@mrdemonictaco5879 sure, everyone could also just use Steve. What a great game it would be. 👏

[@mrdemonictaco5879]

@@michaelwu7678 i mean yeah but u cant hate the player. Hate the game

[@mrdemonictaco5879]

@@michaelwu7678 nintendo doesnt care about this game being competitive. They made it as a party game. Only the fans make it competitive

[@joey4ish]

-sees riddles- what in the forehead fu-OH ITS A HEADBAND 😂

[@OdaGoda957]

I respect the hell out of riddles for his skill and ability to push his characters. Fuck kazuya still tho, the dlc risk reward is so frustrating to watch. He just has better options, half of which have armor or intangibility. So sad seeing marss lose when he played so damn well, minus his combo di that is lol.

[@TheWagn156]

Marss ZSS is so impressive. This character is dogwater compared to smash 4 and he still makes her work, somehow. It is the struggle playing ZSS without any of her good smash 4 confirms.

[@Bomberman64x]

11:57 thats down B not ragedrive

[@doctorj9971]

God damn it

[@HIKAJO]

The amount of effort marss has to put incomparable to the amount riddles has to put. It is really difficult to watch these sets

[@Vai_Waix]

Not riddles with the 8 head

[@antnxtndoor]

Riddles lookin like live action zuko wth

[@nethermaster7744]

Cant believe riddles would bully a content creator like that smh my head

[@arnoldj.samson5795]

It would be so much more interesting if dlc pack 2 characters all got banned. All broken and way too hard to play against.

[@gv82089]

Kazuya vs Nina, classic Tekken

[@oscarcantu7047]

Everything is possible with carryzuya

[@crisvaz27]

❤

[@DevelonLP]

this hairstyle really does no favor to riddles

[@pablofelipe5946]

Goodbye Marrs you big fear lol

[@tysonmotivator6457]

Riddles!

[@musicdev]

Why does ZSS suck so much man, what did she do to deserve this?

[@zeropointgravity9051]

She doesn't suck, she's pretty high tier.

[@TiredGiant2112]

They nerfed zss too hard

[@chrometoyodome187]

kazuya op

[@RawmGarcia]

We should feel lucky that not everyone plays Sonic,GNW, Steve and Kazzzzzzzuya

[@johnowens2270]

Marrs cant win in this era with how much he practiced

[@gabrielserna9274]

Really, Marss did it better, but Kazuya is Kazuya

[@luismise5780]

Marss

[@neko6563]

I hate when commentators start screaming when it gets intense. Please calm yourselves

[@user-lz8qj7ii8y]

No DI marss? EWGF

[@user-se2li1hp6h]

The online streamers

[@Divin3Valor]

All these Kazuya hating crybabies, it’s too funny

[@ryanbates3319]

Honestly Kazuya can be annoying but I don’t find him so bad, hes good but some of his frame data is ganon levels of bad. So he should not be banned imo

[@raven-a]

I think he's lame and doesn't fit Smash but whatever

[@SharkfatherPred]

I think it’s funny that you hate on every other pro player in your comment history then have the gall to call people hating on kazuya funny. Pick a struggle dog.

[@Divin3Valor]

@@SharkfatherPred who am I hating on?

[@SharkfatherPred]

@@Divin3Valor Leo,Spargo,Dabuz like we can see your comment history dude.

[@whitneykelley7392]

First

[@LostCauseAJ]

Ban kazuya & steve

[@HansWurst-vg8iu]

kazuya has waaaay more counterplay than steve

[@GrimslyRyuzaki]

lol Marss getting fat

[@Don_terrenos]

Riddles is the definition of carried

[@tinyt.w.i.m7291]

Kazuya is carried by Riddles.

[@bringbringish]

we're going too far now

[@zeropointgravity9051]

@@tinyt.w.i.m7291 Facts, Kazuya would probably be middle A tier if it weren't for Riddles and maybe Tea playing the game and getting good results.

[@BrianJosephViolin]

Kazuya is so broken and lame I hate watching him, Marss deserved this win :/

[@randomzergling]

Nobody deserves anything. It's not like this is a random tournament or anything, Marss chose to play ZSS, and Riddles chose to play Kazuya. It's a choice the same as a stage counterpick.

[@BrianJosephViolin]

My opinion might be biased but I stand 10 toes down on it

[@SharkfatherPred]

@@randomzerglingGod you’re lame. Some characters require more skill than others. Watching a character that does not take as much skill intrinsically beat out a character that is being played well feels bad. We should feel lucky that not everyone plays Sonic,GNW, Steve and Kazuya.

[@zeropointgravity9051]

I swear people love to call Kazuya "broken" because of his combo game, but they don't even realize how hard it is to execute those combos on high level play. If you're biased and prefer Marss as a player, then that's fine but at least give Riddles his deserved credit. Marss played good, yeah, but in the end Riddles played better.

[@SharkfatherPred]

@@zeropointgravity9051 Riddles is a fantastic player don’t get me wrong. He got his W. But you are smoking a whole pack of you think Kazuya takes more skill to execute at a top level than ZSS does. Kazuya has so many cheese moves for very little extra effort and it isn’t close. At a top level every character takes work, some less than others Kazuya being one of them. Riddles hit some nice parries though.

[@piramaster9294]

Marss always getting the best out of ZSS. Kazuya is so toxic in the context of smash, Marss has to play like 100 times better and consistently to not get robbed

[@BlastESJ2]

P2W vs honest character

[@randomzergling]

Chosen character vs chosen character

[@Charliethiccmzzz]

Riddles Kasuya has become boring to watchv

[@reganabel7839]

Riddles is a legend

[@RythmicROFL]

You guys wanna see Riddles win this whole thing?

[@GalacticNarwhal]

fuck no

[@coreonJ]

Fuck yes

[@doodoo2065]

Hell yeah

[@GalacticNarwhal]

@@coreonJ 😴😴😴😴😴😴

[@gunslinger9786]

Not really

[@CView]

Kazuya man - so dumb but ggs riddles

[@xxthegamingshortsxx2909]

Kazuya just being a lame character

[@_hurglet]

they're both lame tbh

[@randomzergling]

At least Kazuya animations are cool. ZSS is so campy.

[@sodapop939]

⁠@@randomzerglingif you think the animation is the reason you find a character sick, you don’t understand the game.

[@zeropointgravity9051]

@@sodapop939 Thats the stupidest thing I ever heard. They had an opinion on a characters design and you think that says something about their game knowledge?

[@Hi-fd4cw]

@@sodapop939Alright “sodapop” tell us how much more you know about this game that nobody else knows

[@Victor-zn9ff]

I havent seen riddles win one game ever

[@lilcyrusj]

Woah this game is dead dead

[@Luc-jq5wp]

Riddles play style so boring marss outshined him by far

[@thegameexplainer4092]

Yall are such marss glazers lol. Marss was literally camping the hell out of riddles this whole match.

[@garorade]

@@thegameexplainer4092 you don't respect the space of kazuya? Most rookie statement

[@kyberstudios7358]

​@@thegameexplainer4092 because its literally the only way to win against kazuya. Kazuya wins one interaction and your stock's gone

[@theexaltedlt8222]

Too bad this is about winning not outshining

[@happyducky9872]

The comment was about shine, not victory

[@chia1jon]

I hate Kazuya. So boring to watch. I like Riddles’s Terry but Kazuya is just a one-opening win.

[@randomzergling]

Just play neutral better, Kazuya struggles to get in.

[@freezeframeplease]

kazuya is just lame bro.

[@mniemasz88]

Why hasn’t this character been banned yet my god

[@nassoltd]

Bruh he’s not even close to being the best character…. Go cry some more

[@theexaltedlt8222]

Because it's mostly riddles and tea carrying kaz

[@Eiji475]

Marss needs to pick a better character

[@zeropointgravity9051]

Why? Not only is it his best character, it's an even matchup with Kazuya.

[@ragnazero1971]

Yet again the bs that is kazuya. One mistake and might as well put the controller down sometimes. Riddles kazuya is so lame

[@TheMedicinalMan]

Kazuya is just so boring to watch. One hit and you just fucking die. Resident sleeper. Would genuinely rather watch Steve mine materials.