How Our Hybrid Electric Motor Works (+ solar & hydro)

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Gone with the Wynns

Gone with the Wynns

Күн бұрын

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@gonewiththewynns
@gonewiththewynns Жыл бұрын
So many Curious viewers! The most common question seems to be "Great system, but can you get it serviced anywhere in the world?" and the answer is definitely yes! The diesel engine is a fairly simple marinized Kubota engine, so parts should be readily available and any diesel mechanic worth their salt should be able to fix anything Jason can't. The electric motor is also super simple, and HH techs will be able to remotely log in to the system from anywhere in the world for troubleshooting and diagnostics. Hope that satisfies your "curiosity"! Curious Minion
@russellduke4469
@russellduke4469 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your channel. A question, everything being digital, are you worried about lightening strikes or any electrical failures?
@dansbrown1313
@dansbrown1313 Жыл бұрын
Hello Jason and Nikki, with so many options available, I'm wondering if the Yanmar engine is available?
@yewtuber
@yewtuber Жыл бұрын
The amps are what kills you, not the volts. That was very dangerous comment coming from the factory rep.
@Metal0sopher
@Metal0sopher Жыл бұрын
Also look into a 4 blade prop vs. a 3 blade. 4blade require more torque, but that's what electric motors do thus 4blade props are more efficient and more responsive than three.
@LoanwordEggcorn
@LoanwordEggcorn Жыл бұрын
@@yewtuber Touching a million amps at 1 volt probably won't kill you because it's not enough voltage to break down skin and make it conduct. It takes more than say 50 volts to make skin conduct, which is why low voltage systems are under 50 volts. Also it turns out that water, even seawater are NOT very conductive, so the risk of electrocution from water + electricity is not a great as people think.
@plfreeman111
@plfreeman111 Жыл бұрын
As an engineer with a career in automation, I'm impressed, and also recognize that you two will really need to learn these systems. I'm confident you can learn to troubleshoot and repair, but it sounds like it's going to be a whole new class of debug from what you had before.
@AndrewBlacker-wr2ve
@AndrewBlacker-wr2ve Жыл бұрын
But Wynns have a very intimate understanding of the entire system. I've been critical of Jason's lack of mechanical knowledge. That being said, he has self educated about not just mechanics but also system design.
@gonewiththewynns
@gonewiththewynns Жыл бұрын
The diesel is very uncomplicated, and the electric motor itself is also very simple. Techs will be able to access the system via WiFi, so the techs at HH will be able to help troubleshoot from anywhere in the world. Curious Minion
@stevewildman1045
@stevewildman1045 Жыл бұрын
Jason has had a Supreme learning curve from his day of Rving. I had doubts for this duo as they started there lessons on basic boating and sailing. To the Wynns, " You have done well Pilgram" Much respect... and YES you are building the vessel of my dreams of 25 years ago.
@alliejr
@alliejr Жыл бұрын
The electronics and controllers will be the problem area. You're right, the diesel and electric motors are simple. But the electronic and software "glue" can make it all go wrong-- and unless you have access to the code to debug, it will be a challenge.
@rileybri
@rileybri Жыл бұрын
I think that is the beauty of this system it is very simple mechanically and can be run fully analog if needed.
@jackwickman2403
@jackwickman2403 Жыл бұрын
When the drive belt from the prop shaft to the motor/generator fails you will have to disconnect the prop shaft flex coupling and push the shaft aft to replace the drive belt. While this is not that difficult it could be easier. You could put a spare belt or two around the prop shaft during install and zip tie them into a safe position clear of any moving parts. Then when the belt fails just slide a new one forward and onto the pulleys. You will only need to slacken the belt tensioner and then retighten it with no need to disconnect the prop shaft. This could be a plus if the belt fails at sea under difficult conditions. Thanks for showing us your beautiful new boat. Happy sailing.
@LoanwordEggcorn
@LoanwordEggcorn Жыл бұрын
Yes, but belts also tend to be highly reliable. More reliable than shafts, gears, universal joints, etc.
@fredbugden3511
@fredbugden3511 Жыл бұрын
That is a very good idea.
@stephenfraser2521
@stephenfraser2521 Жыл бұрын
Excellent Ideas
@gonewiththewynns
@gonewiththewynns 11 ай бұрын
@jackwickman2403 Good eye and nice catch. And yes, HH delivers the boat with a spare zip tied exactly as you described. You get the gold star this week! Curious Minion
@LoanwordEggcorn
@LoanwordEggcorn 11 ай бұрын
@@armslength2618 Belts are highly reliable in power levels and applications such as this one. We agree they're not suitable for use everywhere. (Lots of engines use timing belts, for info. Some motorcycles use belts as a final drive between the gearbox and rear wheel. Google: "What motorcycles have belts?")
@owenkuntz9108
@owenkuntz9108 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see Jason hosting and excited about something. It’s a beautiful boat and I’m excited for you. Can’t wait for the full boat tour!
@TheCharlesLuu
@TheCharlesLuu Жыл бұрын
wait until they get a dishwasher. Jason will be beyond EXCITED!
@chaws314
@chaws314 Жыл бұрын
@@TheCharlesLuu I donated! Cant wait :)
@stephanieellis5399
@stephanieellis5399 Жыл бұрын
@@TheCharlesLuu yeah... But I'm gonna miss the "but first, Jason has to do the dishes" comments. Lol
@karenpolansky9097
@karenpolansky9097 Жыл бұрын
Most of the information went way over my head, but redundancy really struck me. This, coming from someone who has 5 different ways to make coffee in her trailer. 😊 AND I never have to worry about getting stuck in the middle of the ocean like you two do. Good peace of mind. ❤️❤️
@colourful64able
@colourful64able Жыл бұрын
There's no way to get stuck in the middle of the ocean
@stephensidaras7416
@stephensidaras7416 Жыл бұрын
Hey - Get them to put two extra belts on each motor and zip tie them out of the way now as they are probably very difficult to replace the belts later. That way you just cut off old belt and slip new belt in place. I bet it is very hard to get a new belt around the prop shaft once mounted in engine room.
@TheSailingFamily
@TheSailingFamily 11 ай бұрын
Yes, that is what HH does. Ready to go!
@robc1952
@robc1952 Жыл бұрын
wow, looks like a great system, 1 thing not mentioned is that most trains since 1913 are all diesel-electric, As early as 1913, an experimental 60-horsepower diesel-electric railcar appeared in Sweden. About 30 cars of this type, but with more powerful, 150-horsepower engines, soon went into service in Sweden, Denmark, France, and Tunisia.
@cliffdavis5244
@cliffdavis5244 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing boat, the HH 44… Can’t wait to see you sailing her in your future videos!
@echobravo1105
@echobravo1105 2 ай бұрын
I really like the fact that alongside the considerable amount of tech on this boat, at the centre of it is a fairly agricultural diesel that I could fix with a bag of spanners. And as a bonus its shaft-drive too. I've never really been a huge fan of common-rail or saildrives. Getting more interested in HH the more I see of them.
@HopeOfJoe
@HopeOfJoe Жыл бұрын
This architect just gave the best description of how this system works. B. R. A. V. O. ‼️
@MrDonJBerg
@MrDonJBerg Жыл бұрын
Same system as used on WWII submarines as there were called Diesel/Electrical Boats. A German sub was captured (U505), as it's batteries were "Flat", had no power thus have to surface and surrender. Did the same trick, as it was being towed by the Americans after capture, the props were spinning charging the battery's bring it back to life. It is now in a museum in Chicago..
@LoanwordEggcorn
@LoanwordEggcorn Жыл бұрын
That means it's not the same system. This system is a parallel hybrid where either or both the diesel or electric can move the boat independently. In that way it has 2 way failover redundancy. Any one system can fail and the boat can still move. If the sub could not move due to discharged batteries, then the sub was a serial hybrid where the combustion engine acted as a generator to charge the battery and the Diesel could not turn the prop directly. It's also possible the diesel had a problem or ran out of fuel and could not start.
@MrDonJBerg
@MrDonJBerg Жыл бұрын
@@LoanwordEggcorn It was kept down due to depth charges, batteries ran out, that was it. U505 was surrounded and had no were to go. The engines were started with compressed air. The WWII subs engines were NOT connected to the prop shaft, but to a generator which charged the batteries, OR powered the shaft motors directly. OR full motors or Full battery charge. The entire sub was controlled by "Maneuvering" a small room maned by 2-3 people that controlled the flow of current...Quite the setup. To me the similarity's were striking.
@LoanwordEggcorn
@LoanwordEggcorn Жыл бұрын
@@MrDonJBerg Thanks. If the Diesel can turn the shaft directly, then it's a parallel hybrid.
@MrDonJBerg
@MrDonJBerg Жыл бұрын
@@LoanwordEggcorn The Diesel does NOT turn the shaft directly but turns a generator which powers a motor which turns the shaft...
@peace_oceans
@peace_oceans Жыл бұрын
I love the design ethos of this HH. The engineering fundamentals kept simple & accessible with an elegant hybrid interface. Excited to see the testing etc. Great job HH, my fantasy yacht league ties you guys & Outremere as top choice!
@ChrisJones-yh2os
@ChrisJones-yh2os Жыл бұрын
Wow, I think you really lucked out with the engineering talent at Hh. In a way, I think very talented engineers are attracted to challenging forward thinking projects, and that has happened here. At a legacy boat manufacturer, I suspect your talented engineer would be stifled by older engineers who just want to do it the “way they know works”. I am really excited to see all this tech come together.
@powerflowmarine
@powerflowmarine 4 ай бұрын
It's truly an incredible advancement for the marine industry, one that we are STOKED to be a part of! Electric sailboats are the future!
@thomaswillemin9181
@thomaswillemin9181 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing Building Automation for over 27 years and my concern is leading edge tech vs “bleeding edge” tech. There are many interconnected systems that concern me with how well they will hold up in a marine environment. But this is amazing stuff when it is working right. I sincerely hope it gives you decades of worry free service!
@georgeburn961
@georgeburn961 11 ай бұрын
At least it's a simple bolt-on generator/motor that presumably can be isolated mechanically if it fails. And a simple gearbox for the engine using existing tech. I've seen variable pitch props driven electrically to optimise regen efficiency, which seems great but again prone to failure, potentially. And this parallel system wins hands down for redundancy IMO.
@TheSailingFamily
@TheSailingFamily 11 ай бұрын
It's been in production for over 15 years, so it's not leading tech or bleeding tech really...
@user-od9iz9cv1w
@user-od9iz9cv1w 7 ай бұрын
What impressed me is that they are repurposing a well established system used for years on river boats. Just looking at it, it looks simple. What is more ubiquitous than a Kubota diesel or a belt drive motor generator? They have some new software to perfect, but that can be updated wirelessly.
@peterdrury5627
@peterdrury5627 Жыл бұрын
Hello, Nikki and Jason! Your timing in the adoption of this particular hybrid system is perfect. The system is cutting edge, but mature. James and his team have brought an amazing level of sophistication and refinement to the final product, always with attention to its ease of use by Sailors. Stepping away from things technical, the bottom line will be a whole new level in your quality of life on the water.. Well done!
@justlookin3
@justlookin3 Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine that RVing turned into this sophisticated catamaran? Wow!
@51marshmellow
@51marshmellow Жыл бұрын
This was fascinating and relatively easy to understand the basics, all due to the three of you, from explanations through editing ! Thank you.
@theonlywoody2shoes
@theonlywoody2shoes Жыл бұрын
Somebody far wiser than me once said that “simplicity of operation is a result of far greater effort at the design stage” . I think the HH hybrid system is a perfect example of this approach. Great video as always 👍
@w8stral
@w8stral Жыл бұрын
I would say that is 100% true. I just wonder if the B&G interface craps the bed(they do), does everything still work or have a backup? Electronics are great until they do not work and modern electronics there is no "fixing" them, it is just 100% replacement.
@codegame027
@codegame027 Жыл бұрын
It is worth pointing out that these hybrid units are not proprietary to HH but could theoretically be retrofitted to existing boats.
@w4vp9kf
@w4vp9kf Жыл бұрын
I had the same engine/transmission. Raises three questions. 1) Never would start without using glowplugs, even with outside temperature at 90F. That takes 50A for about 10s for each engine PLUS the starter motor load when turned over. 2) Could not stop without pulling manual decompression handle. Has this been replaced by using a solenoid? If so, is there still a manual decompress if solenoid fails? 3) Running transmission in 'N' wasn't recommended, had to be in 'R'. Ask questions about this!
@Brian-os9qj
@Brian-os9qj Жыл бұрын
Simply fascinating, but complicated! It is just a matter of the experience bringing familiarity. The Wynns will do that. Fair winds are on the way. Enjoy.
@kathyline11
@kathyline11 Жыл бұрын
That young man is one intelligent person!
@nathanbannister8502
@nathanbannister8502 Жыл бұрын
We were just at Ft. McCalister GA where the current runs at 4 or 5 knots easy. You could anchor in the river there and generate in both directions with the tide coming in or out using the hydro regeneration mode and wouldn't really need anything else. The battery would keep you going through the slack tide. Very cool! Amazing there isn't hydroelectric on all of these tidal rivers for the towns along them. What a missed opportunity.
@carsonc1272
@carsonc1272 Жыл бұрын
There are a lot of ways to accomplish a hybrid. I'm happy to see that HH has put the thought in to do this 100% right. I'm an electrician and kept looking for something to poke a hole in but this system is awesome. Great job HH! And Nikki and Jason also deserve credit here. You guys always put the required thought into what you're doing instead of just going with the crowd and doing things the same way it's been done for the last 100 years. Make sure to get that dishwasher so you don't make a liar out of me.😘
@wildwestunlimited
@wildwestunlimited Жыл бұрын
So!.... I was REALLY concerned about how much solar you have was really NEVER going to get you to a FULL state in your huge battery bank..... NOW I get it, with this system, you'll be sailing almost forever with VERY little to ZERO use of any fossil fuels whatsoever. This means, NO MORE carrying all those big HEAVY diesel cans when you go ashore, which ALSO means, NO need to even HAVE those big cans for your diesel storage. Man, what an IMPRESSIVE system! I'm SOOOOOO HAPPY for you and Nikki!!!!
@ShaunBowm
@ShaunBowm Жыл бұрын
Seeing your journey over the last few years, its also cool seeing the synchronization of your life/dreams/technology melding at the right time
@FrankDoucette-q9j
@FrankDoucette-q9j 11 ай бұрын
Lots of comments from folks who have not designed, built and sailed an electric boat for years. I have. My Pearson 36 had a similar 10kw brushless electric motor and in my opinion, the HH44 setup is sized right, practical and functional. Far superior compared with my DIY system. In short, I have no doubt that it will work & Jason, you are going to love this propulsion system!!! You have 2 generators on board. You have 2 engines and 2 motors - each capable of moving the boat on their own. I know of no other boat with such redundancy. Just one question: how to change the belt? I know it lasts a long time (mine went over a year with heavy usage). Must be a coupler you can disconnect to pull the belt off the shaft.
@gonewiththewynns
@gonewiththewynns 11 ай бұрын
Good eye. HH delivers the boat with a spare belt already inside the loop & zip-tied out of harms' way. That lets you wait for controlled conditions to install another spare for the next time. Curious Minion
@FrankDoucette-q9j
@FrankDoucette-q9j 11 ай бұрын
Those HH engineers are sharp! Again, I doubt you’ll need the spare belt in an emergency, but good to know it’s there.
@christopherhutchings9621
@christopherhutchings9621 11 ай бұрын
I'm going to be watching every update with total focus! That's a Badass system brother and can't wait to see how she holds up! Bravo 👍❤️🇺🇸
@my09ultra
@my09ultra Жыл бұрын
Self regenerating power bank capabilities - very cool!
@itsnotme07
@itsnotme07 Жыл бұрын
"That was a well thought lucid explanation of all the GO parts on the boat". Glad there isn't a quiz later....LOL Lots of wicked cool stuff!! A little My Cousin Vinny line stolen there....
@ecleveland1
@ecleveland1 Жыл бұрын
I really like all of the redundancy in this setup. To be able to move the boat in no wind without using diesel fuel is a huge game changer in my opinion. Less wear on the diesel engines because you don’t have to run them for short trips is also huge .
@bmitch3020
@bmitch3020 Жыл бұрын
When thinking about maintenance, my biggest concern is the control systems. There's still the prop, belts, transmission connections, but those will be relatively easy to diagnose and fix. While the electronics on the control system, the wiring, screens, etc are the things that will be hard to just diagnose, let alone repair, while at sea.
@user-od9iz9cv1w
@user-od9iz9cv1w 7 ай бұрын
Great video. To me, this is the perfect setup for a live aboard cruiser. You could literally just use the diesel very sparingly and use very little fuel. Quiet. Clean. But always there to get you away when required or to charge batteries for AC and other living comforts. And it is still a performance sailing machine. I love it.
@GolaniBalagan
@GolaniBalagan Жыл бұрын
One should always consider the worst case scenario which in the case of this system would be thermal runaway from the Lithium batteries. A fire like that would be impossible to extinguish at sea (on land too). Boeing solved the problem on the B787 by encasing their lithium batteries in a fire and heatproof steel casing after several serious incidents that grounded the aircraft. Are your batteries in a steel (or other material) protective casing?
@honesty_-no9he
@honesty_-no9he 6 ай бұрын
Not if the batteries are LFP.
@mattcherry276
@mattcherry276 9 ай бұрын
I live a couple of miles from Braidbar Boats who feature in the magazine article you showed and regularly walk the dog along the canal past their yard. It's an ambition of mine to live on a canal boat, they are one of the top canal boat builders in the UK and I'd love to have them build a boat for us so I've looked into their hybrid system, and what was described here sounded very familiar, because Braidbar also use HybridMarine! One big advantage on a canal boat is engine efficiency - you size your engine, gearbox and prop for going against the tide on a fast flowing river with a gale force headwind but then spend 99% of the time pootling along a current less canal on a calm day. Putting the engine to so little effort means it runs really inefficiently, so adding the generator and working the engine hard means it's massively more efficient and you're using far more of the energy in the diesel fuel, stuffing it into the batteries and then, once fully charged, switching off the engine and using that energy for propulsion for far longer than you had the engine on for. On canal boats in the UK you can get enough power from solar for domestic supplies (though not necessarily in the winter) but the sun isn't ever really bright enough and there isn't enough space for panels to generate enough for propulsion unfortunately. Braidbar also provide a remote controller so you don't even to be on board to move the boat, e.g. if you're single handed and going through a lock - David (Cruising the Cut) did a video about it a while back. Wow! Suddenly this video went from China to so close to home!!! Top stuff!
@gradyluyt6998
@gradyluyt6998 Жыл бұрын
I love the emphasis on two separate systems and a normal run of the mill diesel that anyone anywhere can fix. I love complex done simple
@brendanh8978
@brendanh8978 Жыл бұрын
There's something really cool about the idea of sailing into some pristine remote anchorage, using only electric to maneuver while dropping the hook, and then recharging the batteries with solar. No loud diesels running, no stinky exhaust or fuel smells to detract from the quiet and fresh air. Will be hard to run totally off solar without turning off a lot of the luxury systems and sweating a little, but would be doable. You can really be quite self sustaining for a long time. Food becomes your limiting factor,.
@shawngreenwood7288
@shawngreenwood7288 Жыл бұрын
This is very exciting, I am going to have to watch this again. I right off the bat love that the system has a lot of simplicity and redundancy. Going this way in a new boat was very smart in your choice. The content this boat will create is to push your channel. Well done, I am sold!
@xx6489
@xx6489 Жыл бұрын
An impressively basic and simple set up especially considering the number of functionalities and redundancies. Good to see HH putting time and effort making the interface equally as simple .
@michelebushnik2874
@michelebushnik2874 Жыл бұрын
Holy moly! This is a dream engine! I suspect no down time on all your electronics, and with Jason and Nikki, I suspect full battery power everywhere because they are the ultimate savers!!❤❤
@johncrabtree4214
@johncrabtree4214 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Exciting to see the new boat's features. One question. With so much of the control of the boat managed through the electronic systems, including the diesel engine's gauges, what happens if you get hit by lightning and it fries all the electrical components?
@trooper5157
@trooper5157 Жыл бұрын
Jason has come so far, mechanically, since the Wynns' old days of RV'ing. Really pushing his limits to learn more and be a better, and more innovative, owner. Is this really the same guy who struggled to change a tire in Alaska? ;)
@eb1888.
@eb1888. Жыл бұрын
The owners and service manuals plus video on how to do it properly will be an important asset package. The numbers were being calibrated at one point. That procedure explained with instructions is what would be important to have. When the system is new with few experienced techs around the world, I'd want to be the tech and train an existing technician to help me.
@cathyholt5215
@cathyholt5215 Жыл бұрын
Love that color!❤❤❤
@laurierodriguez1432
@laurierodriguez1432 Жыл бұрын
So cool to have backups to the backup!✌️💜
@Montie-Adkins
@Montie-Adkins Жыл бұрын
It's cool watching you and Nautistyles go through the same thing, though there's is gonna be while longer.
@RussellWagner-p4y
@RussellWagner-p4y 11 ай бұрын
I can’t wait till you all are in your new boat. Really enjoy watching the adventures.
@davidallen9526
@davidallen9526 11 ай бұрын
There are times that it takes a really smart person to dumb something down. This, I feel, was one of those times. Good information provided in a easily understood manner. Can't wait to get your feedback while actually in use.
@RaudeW
@RaudeW Жыл бұрын
This was very informative. The capacity for multiple configurations is excellent. The only minor thing I got stuck on was the use of "Electrocution" vs. "Electric shock"; however, the point was clear. 🙂 I always enjoy your weekly updates.
@ralphgesler5110
@ralphgesler5110 Жыл бұрын
The terms are quite clear; a painful surprise or possible death.
@kqschwarz
@kqschwarz Жыл бұрын
Super introduction to hybrid propulsion on a sailboat. Thank you.
@PeterDavila-mx9ni
@PeterDavila-mx9ni Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you. I'll be watching it a few more times. Lots of good stuff discussed.
@sickjohnson
@sickjohnson Жыл бұрын
04:40 - I really like how James makes it so clear and simple by explaining why, not just how. That chart at 04:50 (Delta -28% efficiency) is something never mentioned out loud in the main stream, as in an industry dirty little secret in the EV world.
@PeterAcrat
@PeterAcrat Жыл бұрын
👍Looks good Jason. Thanks for the rundown on the system. Plenty of options to play with there 💯. New batteries currently in development will deliver extended range in the next few years - ie: Aluminium Ion battery by GMG (and zero fire risk!)🇦🇺
@richardsilver8485
@richardsilver8485 Жыл бұрын
1:30 I love your comment and your passion behind it. I feel the same way. Was hoping to meet you at Annapolis but I’m guessing you’re going to be on the other side of the world celebrating your anniversary. Congrats! I found and fell in love with HH 2 years ago and I am excited for you getting this fabulous new boat.
@anthonyshowers7486
@anthonyshowers7486 Жыл бұрын
Since I’m not a engineer, it was very interesting, because you did it in ( baby steps) for everyone to fallow and to be inspired, thank you.
@kimkristensen2816
@kimkristensen2816 Жыл бұрын
You guys are huge ambassadors for the brand 😃
@CCB249
@CCB249 Жыл бұрын
Such an exciting learning channel! Love this channel!
@jerrykirk455
@jerrykirk455 Жыл бұрын
When will you get the new boat? Can't wait for you guys to get back on the water and showing us your adventures!
@williesful
@williesful Жыл бұрын
So good once again, the underwater footage just ceases to amaze. Love it. Thank you 😊
@jaytroxel3495
@jaytroxel3495 11 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see you guys get ON THE WATER and try out this magnificent machine full of technology. I"m sure this type of boat is at the forefront of many future boats to come.
@verngay6557
@verngay6557 Жыл бұрын
so informative, thank you. My only comment about the presentation, I had a hard time keeping track of where Jason was with his twin brother James standing there.
@CmoreTruth
@CmoreTruth Жыл бұрын
I've said it before you two do a fantastic job with your channel and editing. Super duper ❤🙏😎
@jamarie1972
@jamarie1972 Жыл бұрын
Great video and a Fantastic description of the hybrid system. I bet your both getting very excited about taking delivery All the best to you both
@AliasJimWirth
@AliasJimWirth Жыл бұрын
Excellent run down, Jason. Fine video presentation. Thank you.
@Sommers234
@Sommers234 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great technical tour . Great to watch you in action Jason you really ask the questions. I'm psyched to see a 44 at Annapolis.
@montz6743
@montz6743 Жыл бұрын
fantastic information i will now incorporate this into my dream boat
@jasemcl
@jasemcl 11 ай бұрын
You can enjoy silent mode in selectable navigation modes, as coming into a marina silently, or any other silent dessired means :)
@edgraves7098
@edgraves7098 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you so much for giving us a brief, but understandable, dive into the hybrid systems.
@billm6774
@billm6774 Жыл бұрын
Nice!! Real nice, Can't wait to see those hybrids work, along with those multi-position wheels at the helms make a sweet machine in a neat trimmed sailboat. Will be be even better on your boat.
@SailingLearningByDoing
@SailingLearningByDoing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info rich video. This drive system seems pretty ideal, super simple. I guess to save weight and some cost you could have gone with 1 of these in one hull and a simple 10kv electric in the other hull. That way you'd still have full regen and enough charging from the single diesel + solar. Non the less, looking forward to seeing how this all works in real-world conditions.
@robbbbbie12
@robbbbbie12 Жыл бұрын
Really seems like this is the future of sailboat propulsion, especially if the costs are not that much higher, which is what the engineer implied.
@LoanwordEggcorn
@LoanwordEggcorn Жыл бұрын
The costs are a little higher, but probably a relatively tiny fraction of the boat cost.
@damfadd
@damfadd Жыл бұрын
And cost savings on Diesel is the main point
@LoanwordEggcorn
@LoanwordEggcorn Жыл бұрын
@@damfadd Yes, electric drive saves a lot of money over burning fossil fuels, but it's also a lot better for the environment.
@mal6232
@mal6232 Жыл бұрын
@@damfadd How much are solar panels? How often are you going to have to change one? Copper electric cable costs an arm and a leg now, how much do you need during the installation? How often is the control system going to blow up? How often is that drive belt going to snap under 10Kw loads?..... None of these things are addressed and they are all added costs to this system. You can get diesel everywhere, where are you going to find a technician qualified in dealing with a control box failure?
@mal6232
@mal6232 Жыл бұрын
@@LoanwordEggcorn Oh please.... the diesel fuel burnt by a 3 cylinder marine diesel will never come close to the earth's resources consumed by the production of all the extra components of this system. There may well be many excellent reasons for deciding on a system like this (not least of which would be sponsorship) but saving the planet is most certainly not one of them.
@angelmorales7468
@angelmorales7468 11 ай бұрын
I love the regeneration with the boat under sail only, it produces electricity with the props turning. It wasn't mentioned in the video but I'm only guessing that it actually helps with speed since the props are not fixed causing drag with them spinning freely.
@mikezuber5052
@mikezuber5052 Жыл бұрын
You should ask what spare parts you should stock on the boat. Seems like belts, a starter ... must be some other stuff that would be good to have on board.
@TimmyMoza
@TimmyMoza Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that walkthru and detail. Thats pretty awesome and the redundancy especially valuable when you are in the middle of the big pond with no land in sight… really cool! Oh also forgot to mention that this is 100% serviceable pretty much globally… well done!
@michaelcanto6175
@michaelcanto6175 11 ай бұрын
Incredible! Now if the autopilot was connected to the fish finder you'd have it all!
@g-man2045
@g-man2045 Жыл бұрын
This system is going to be awesome. You all have made some great decisions. I'm really excited for you.
@johnmayer3433
@johnmayer3433 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining in depth your hybrid system. It seems the HH designers did a nice job in creating a modern but not too sophisticated system. Looking forward to your sea trials and the follow up cruises.
@poruatokin
@poruatokin Жыл бұрын
There's a very good explanation of this by Leo at Sampson Boat Co. channel about a year ago or more, he selected the same unit for the Tally Ho project.
@michaelripley4528
@michaelripley4528 Жыл бұрын
#TEAMJASON ‼️🥰 As Long as the dishwasher dont go Down on the 48V !! Could the dishwasher run on the diesel engine and generator??? Make this one failure free🤣 SO!! The dishwasher CAN Run on windpower???!! GREAT!!! Just another win for the dishwasher 🥰
@BuzzSargent
@BuzzSargent Жыл бұрын
This is fantastic what HH has done here on your 44. I thought I watched an Antares Cat Hybrid that used a similar system a few years ago. They even pointed out the straight drive vs sail drive idea plus added it was safer if it hit a log. I went back to look at the Antares 44 Hybrid after looking at the HH 44. The takeaway is that Antares is clunky vs the clean lines of this new HH. I actually could not believe how my memory did not see all the improvements that HH has made to the cruising cat. In the review of the Yanmar/Electric drive on the Antares, the HH shown here is more versatile than the other one. This 44 cruising HH just may be the best of both worlds. Sorry if I am too wordy. Have a Magical Day.
@tim8deb
@tim8deb Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a fantastic system, well done Wynns and HH.
@orrieallen7320
@orrieallen7320 Жыл бұрын
Key word...REDUNDANCY.... Diesel, electric and wind. If they fail, then your TRUE SAILOR SKILLS kick in. Outstanding.
@markspann
@markspann Жыл бұрын
First a disclaimer : I am NOT a sailor, nor have any general interest in the lifestyle, but have been watching your videos because, quite frankly, it is simply a foreign subject that you and the wife have made brilliantly fascinating. With that said, I am keenly interested in the concept (which must be proven and I'm sure you will as you have to) that you can power your lifestyle with a maximum of free and/or renewable energy sources, depending as little as possible on diesel engine electrical power propulsion. Now you will have my full attention with every upcoming video to see how this new tech, whether leading or bleeding, will shake out.
@workdogwern4716
@workdogwern4716 Жыл бұрын
For anybody keeping track, 1 horsepony is 750 watts. The electric motors are about 13.5hp (10kW) combined. You're not going to put it up on a plane with that kind of power, but it's plenty to move the boat around. When he's talking about recharge, he mentioned 250w (1/3hp). That's just energy conversion losses. It's a very cool system, and I think the Wynns will learn to make great use of it. I think the practical reality is that the electric motors will be great for mucking about at low speed. It's great when he mentioned about running diesel on one side, and electric on the other. I don't think much long range cruising will be done on the electrics however.
@jamesmarinelli2177
@jamesmarinelli2177 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing all about what looks to be an awesome boat, congrats!
@JohnPaul-ts8dq
@JohnPaul-ts8dq Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a big learning curve coming your way.
@craybro
@craybro Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Most of the recent boat hybrid systems I’ve learned about use a generator to power an electric motor with no direct diesel propulsion. I can see how this system works better for extended motoring but would go with the other system for shorter range motoring for near silent power underway and at anchor charging.
@glasslinger
@glasslinger Жыл бұрын
One question I would ask is what happens if something breaks way away from a hhh service center. Can normal shops you find all over the world work on this thing? If something terrible breaks is it just ordering some parts and a local shop can do the work, or do you have to also take the boat 1000 miles to a qualified shop?
@markryan7109
@markryan7109 Жыл бұрын
I love seeing a belt drive versus a gearbox. So easy to carry spare belts. Hybrid makes so much sense and I really like that you do not have diesel engines and generators. Fewer parts that need maintenance is so much better. Going through the maintenance difference would be interesting.
@christopherledesma8435
@christopherledesma8435 Жыл бұрын
I do see a few problems with the electric motor connected to the shaft after the gearbox, using a belt. 1. If the electric motor gets stuck (internally) that will hold the driveshaft and will not let the engine run, unless it breaks the belt. 2. Based on the information provided, The electric motor belt will be running every time the boat is sailing, that will drastically reduce the life of the belt and the belt pulley. Why not using gear system (with a manual disengage) to connect the electric motor to the driveshaft, it is more efficient and reliable?
@joelambing2430
@joelambing2430 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video. Love the hybrid. It would be nice to cover the evaluation of different prop types and how this is optimized for the various modes, including regen. Cheers
@markleyg
@markleyg 6 ай бұрын
I agree that parallel hybrid is more efficient if you are a power boat and always motor. For a sailboat, where you rarely motor, serial would be more efficient. This is because in serial you can more closely match the engine size to the generator size.
@smallsmalliver
@smallsmalliver Жыл бұрын
One of your best vids of the kind. Well done!
@GR8TDUCK
@GR8TDUCK Жыл бұрын
VERY cool. Can't wait for you to get out there!
@terrymeikle195
@terrymeikle195 11 ай бұрын
wow! so envious!😄
@edwardcassel3789
@edwardcassel3789 8 ай бұрын
Congrats to you both. It has been a long journey but you guys are finally here. Question, What is the MTBF for the electric motors? Ans have ya'll factored that into the cost. I'm sure you have tried to cover all of these questions, bc I've been watching you guys for a very long time. Good luck and may you're travels be rewarding.
@gonewiththewynns
@gonewiththewynns 8 ай бұрын
I don't know the answer but is should be available online without too much fuss. This Beta Marine hybrid has been used in ferries and narrow boats for decades and is considered very reliable if that helps! Curious Minion
@mentonish
@mentonish Жыл бұрын
As they say keep it simple, another great review with a multi type system
@Outdoor_MED
@Outdoor_MED Жыл бұрын
I am stoked about your boat!!! 😁
@brentbitter5209
@brentbitter5209 Жыл бұрын
Great introduction to the system. 48vDC is starting to get traction in the trucking and automotive industry also in time more system components will be ‘common’ place, but nice to still have ye olde 12v for RV style appliances that are readily available.
@jmwarden1
@jmwarden1 Жыл бұрын
Tesla is going to 48 volts in their new cars
@stephenhawkx
@stephenhawkx 11 ай бұрын
Yes Tesla cybertruck in production now is 100% 48V architecture. Soon the whole industry will start transition away from legacy 12v.
@stephenhawkx
@stephenhawkx 11 ай бұрын
We will see! Switching much faster than expected imo
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