Good Game Design - Super Mario Maker 2: Building Better Creators

Mario Maker 2 has been incredibly addicting since its release. I've been hooked on creating my own stages and learning new ways to utilize the plethora of tools at our disposal. Let's talk about how this sequel upped the ante in terms of teaching and encouraged better game design in its creators.
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[@styx6661]

I think the best thing about the game is just how much they push fairness when creating courses. In so many of the tutorial lessons in the dojo, they repeatedly bash you over the head with making stages that are fair first, difficult later. Feels like they recognised how much people get sick of seeing insane troll levels and, without just outright not allowing them to be made, communicated the idea of making levels fairly and how that can still be fun for people to play and make.

[@Melecie]

troll levels are still a popular level type tho, it’s just to prevent hot garbage levels like those that start you off with a giant thwomp on your head

[@Fupicat]

Yeah, troll levels are still fun to play for some, but now you have to search for them instead of getting them in an endless run and completely ruining it.

[@UltimatePerfection]

@@Fupicat How am I supposed to have fun when other people have fun?

[@calebhessing7593]

I was the 69th like. Hooray.

[@seathealchemyst]

The community is my favorite part. Never have I seen such a healthy, wholesome, thriving community on the internet exist the way the mario maker community does. Most conversations involve playtesting and critiquing, or discussing unique discoveries and contraptions

[@harrylane4]

Nintendo isnt usually very good at online, but that bad online sometimes leads to really wholesome communities. I'm looking at you, Tri-Force Heroes

[@zeemonrollin8340]

Ya people find out new contraptions that they share with rest of the maker community so that is forever expanding and improving. I found out you can use on offs with conveyors stacked with a wall cannon on the side of it to move it up and down which I used to create the arcade game centipede in Super Mario maker 2.

[@toadrice]

Yes, it isn't toxic like Paper Mario or Smash.

[@yeenyweeny8241]

Your like the only youtuber who says ‘ I prefer the making part of the game’. Props to you.

[@happycamperds9917]

YeenyWeeny Assuming your not a KZbinr dedicated solely to creating MM levels.

[@yeenyweeny8241]

DekuShrub 99 of course

[@jeffzzzz1955]

Same I'm more of a creative person so I can spend hours just making a level And I'm not talking about hot garbage bowser spam or unfinished pipes

[@littlestrike6811]

I’ve easily spend triple the time making levels than I do playing them.

[@JonathanTash]

Making theses videos is probably a form of procrastination for him. I bet he could make a cool video game himself.

[@meriotroid]

Super Mario Maker 1 already almost never got boring, and Super Mario Maker 2 just adds dozens of new things to work with. I really doubt I'm ever going to get tired of playing this game 😅

[@randomguyontheinternet7940]

@EdZ123 Th9ught you said Micheal P. For a moment there lol

[@mariannmariann2052]

Another reason that the levels are WAY better because unlike SMM1 where levels IMMEDIATELY get thrown into the level pool upon upload, SMM2 levels enter a New Courses section where they can have a chance to enter the level pool by getting a like and being played. New Courses courses don't appear in the Endless Challenge.

[@novacorponline]

I had a completely different experience from you, and it seems, a lot of streamers. Don't know why, I watch people play and they get good level after good level and it looks like a lot of fun, then I hop into endless mode and it's an unending marathon of levels designed under the principle of "If I force the player to die unavoidably a bunch of times, it'll make my level's difficulty rating higher".

[@MoonSpiritChannel]

It's truly amazing what gamers can truly make all because of their passion for the franchise. I'll probably never achieve that type of creativity, but I'm glad everyone is. Plus, seeing Super Mario Land Mario is surreal in this day and age.

[@ChristopherMoom]

Nah, I'm not addicted to Mario Maker 2. **Glances at my 200+ hours spent on it**

[@cloudy772]

Christopher Moon lol same

[@as0mn]

Looks at mine *220 hours*

[@PastorToadie]

You're everywhere!

[@oliviabitecofer1005]

Pathetic. I have 450 in Smash.

[@floopydoopyy]

I swear. I see you everywhere!

[@HeavyEyed]

Hey Sno i love ya but where are the checkpoints

[@grankwastaken]

My theory is confirmed hahaha

[@Moss_Dude]

I have been privileged with the honor of being this comments 69th like

[@battroborgbattles2018]

Nice

[@Neppix_]

Nice

[@bareesproductionsE31ZI6]

Nice

[@SoraFan23]

The only problems I have with Mario Maker 2 is that some of the clear condition in Story Mode are not available in the course maker and the multiplayer is still laggy. I know Nintendo said they were going to add Friends Online but the game has been out for a month and we still don't have it yet. Regardless I enjoy this game. My favorite part is playing different levels because I see what people create and it gives me a reason to keep coming back and playing different levels. Its way better than it was in Mario Maker 1.

[@patricktaylor6173]

The thing that I enjoy the most is making well designed traditional levels, that feel like they would fit right in to an actual Mario game

[@Terapagos3000]

Yeah I think there's a bit of a lack of them. Would be cool if more people did those.

[@Pedro_eqw]

Check out Super Mario Maker World, it's like a game inside SMM. I saw on Blue Television Games.

[@twilighttoast01]

Yeah I like those levels a lot because there is a, at least for me, preference for Speed over anything on those levels. You can just blaze through them and try to see how fast you can be the lv.

[@grammajam3682]

I am very ambitious on my stages. It usually gets me a low of rate of plays to hearts, but I still enjoy thinking outside the box. I'm working on a level for 2 players. One person can play as Link and the other plays as Mario. The 2 heroes work together to clear a puzzle.

[@AnneIllustrating]

If anyone here still plays Mario Maker 1 because they can’t afford 2 or a Switch yet, please check out levels by a user named Bourgyman. He has moved on to the sequel as well and is currently creating great new levels, but he has left behind some pretty genius and entertaining ones in the original. Make sure to download them and enjoy before the online service gets cut for Wii U!

[@SuperDupTNT]

Thanks for the series "good game design" while I'm not making games right now it will help me when I do

[@BlackieSootfur]

I got really excited to finally have the money to buy the game but didn't realize that i had to have Nintendo online to play other people's levels Which i guess makes sense but i'm still kinda salty about it, that's all i wanted it for. Ive been having fun in the creator though

[@maromania7]

At least online is cheap for these sorts of things. $20 for a year is not bad. PS is $50, and gold membership is $60.

[@BlackieSootfur]

@@maromania7 yeah i wrote this comment before i checked the price for it, i have it now lmao this is awesome

[@geo4876]

I feel like there are 3 main things that I would change with this game: 1) Multiplayer, for obvious reasons 2) Add a troll tag, as those levels are often a favorite for some people 3) There isn't a 3rd, this is a great game

[@place_holder2160]

Meh, multiplayer is fine if you're not at a super low level

[@geo4876]

@@place_holder2160 The main problem with it is that every other match is unplayable because it is laggy.

[@place_holder2160]

@@geo4876 only at low levels

[@geo4876]

@@place_holder2160 Even in high levels. Desbug, who is a Super Mario Maker 2 youtuber, just reached S+, but when he was an S rank, he was still finding laggy games.

[@place_holder2160]

@@geo4876 It's true that you still get laggy games, but nowhere near every other. I would say 1 in 15. I'm currently S rank and I watch actual live streams of people who play. It's not common to get a laggy match.

[@Carson285]

My favourite part of super mario maker 2 is making courses, I like thinking of game designs and jotting some ideas.

[@EmeraldMan25]

"Course world seems to function properly now, so the top stages are always ones that everyone enjoys and rates highly" Whelp

[@cloudy772]

My favorite part is when you have a good idea and you make the level and then you go back through and tweak and decorate and put coins and tweak the level until perfection

[@snomangaming]

Yes absolutely!

[@raph2550]

You basically described the whole process XD

[@cloudy772]

Raphaël I’m specifically talking about after you make the level

[@JetWolfEX]

I usually make the gimmicks first then I select and move them in order of difficulty, space them out. then I fill that space with simple areas for basic platforming, powerups, secrets and maybe a checkpoint. I rarely have it planned out from the beginning I just make them as I go. decoration is the most fun part.

[@tdark987]

I'm pretty including the heavy stones and Toad collection levels in story mode was a deliberate choice to act as a teaser for new features yet to come - or features that just weren't ready in time for release; those two stuck me as having the potential to be particularly bug-prone if thrown haphazardly into a level, and they seem to be making a definite point of preventing bugs and exploits this time around.

[@trueblueryu5713]

I try so excessively to get world records on this game too, it’s great for kids and game veterans.

[@twilighttoast01]

Yeah I getting World Records just feel so satisfying and I'm trying to rack up more and more as I play. I just wish I could see the number of World Records I hold at a given time because as far as I know I haven't been able to find that.

[@blackcode08]

Go to course world, press ‘y’, then use ‘r’ to scroll to the far right tab where you will find a list of your wr’s.

[@wirsig3675]

Snowman, you forgot to talk about the best level, minecraft; the way home

[@jonahtran1834]

heck yeah

[@ciaranpatrick6859]

Wirsig Boys the classic level by Alex the 9

[@wirsig3675]

@@ciaranpatrick6859 ah yes, classic

[@ryanzephyr3417]

A genius level in every way possible

[@alan-daniel]

(can't tell if it's a joke or not) Anyone have a level code, by chance?

[@LibertyLocalizer]

I can't believe Nintendo still hasn't put the stone in the game, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ALREADY IN THE GAME!

[@bryanautumn8899]

The boo feature is a good idea and all but it can also really screw over perfectly talented course makers. All it takes is for the first few people playing your levels to be complete Neanderthals that exit your stage as soon as they fail even once and give your stage a Boo and nobody's going to play your stage after that. Not unless you go around shoving your course ID in everyone's faces and even that's not a guarantee. I don't know how I can make my courses any easier without being patronizing and yet most people can't complete any of the courses I publish.

[@mbdg6810]

elaboration does allow for better criticism then just a thumb up or down i will admit , but its a step in the right direction .

[@Stephen-Fox]

I think my favourite part of creating levels is how easy it is to get them looking.... Decent... it is in MM2 vs MM1, thanks in part to scroll stop, which just helps encourage making levels.

[@maggieent3215]

I like that it's on the switch, but I still wish some costumes were included in the game. When I finally get a mario maker game, I suppose I could make do... I think I'll like the music stages. also the game has a good visual style and fun to watch. And the story mode sounds amusing.

[@al_x2138]

Ahh, back when people actually made good levels. And the popular tab had actually some good levels and not the same rehashed mechanics and themes

[@VladlustTV]

The sequel was extremely well done, great video Snoman!

[@grammajam3682]

I know right. To be honest, I'd call the game a masterpiece after the recent update.

[@grammajam3682]

It might just be my favorite game on the Switch with Odyssey and Breath of the Wild.

[@James-ii2rp]

i got the game when i came out and over a year later i JUST realized that the claws have a different face when holding something

[@ramkingplays9995]

I'm actually planning on making my own game by making stages and there going to be things you see in a actual game like my version of the first world will be peaceful plains

[@oobs-gamingandmore4249]

“The leaderboards aren’t garbage” this aged poorly. Now the leaderboards are just speed runs, kaizos and refreshing levels.

[@justaspectator9762]

Speedruns aren't inherently bad and can be done well. And Kaizo is awesome, not sure if I agree with that outside of refreshing levels

[@oobs-gamingandmore4249]

@@justaspectator9762 Good points. The problem is that there's just too much of those and not enough unique ones.

[@justaspectator9762]

@@oobs-gamingandmore4249 I just hate the mindset that Kaizo levels are inherently bad. So many people seem to lump them in with "troll" levels, (which, even those have improved if you look in the right places)

[@oobs-gamingandmore4249]

@@justaspectator9762 Yeah kaizo isn't inheriently bad.

[@Howitchewstofeel5gum]

I love your calm style. Keep it up man

[@nintendoboy3605]

I feel like the story mode of mario maker 2 is very underrated it teaches the player how to make good courses while also feeling like its own mario maker game and if nintendo wants to add more course parts as DLC i want it to come with more story mode.

[@dr00py70]

Friends : Why do you keep playing Mario Maker 2 and not getting bored? Me : It's actually *surprisingly simple*

[@jonwallace6204]

I’ve been loving the Getting Over It levels. As long as each individual jump is easy it’s that perfect “tough but fair.”

[@rafaeltozo3173]

The only reason i am not addicted to Mario Maker 2 is because Fire Emblem Three Houses has taken that spot

[@Garathon]

"Some levels need to be liked first", the words of a popular creator Edit: 8:30 not fun when your courses are not played

[@Technonova323]

I love Mario maker 2 so much but when I’m making stuff I just think of a bunch of ideas and can’t choose which one to make. Afterwards, I just go back to playing levels instead because I don’t know what to make.

[@1finalchance881]

I remember when you made your first bullet chaser level in your SMW Romhack. Back before you privated all of your old videos. Good times.

[@bumblebeegamerreal]

2 years later and they ended support for updates. RIP

[@reosrus83]

Love your videos! Unfortunately when I go in Endless mode I get LOTS of stinkers still but it's probably before they've been boo'd a fair amount (or was it just one course at a time.. there were some were I couldn't like or boo, maybe an option until something's been beaten) but yeah I hear you on creativity.. I thrive for it and have been building lots. Glad to hear you are addicted too!

[@matiidesign]

The best part is making a level and being sent praises or feedback, honestly. Although I hate that If you wanna make a hard level, and want to put checkpoints, you have to play the stage twice

[@clickbait3753]

I mean, it's kind of necessary as clearing without clearing checkpoints as well could leave to people getting trapped if they activate a checkpoint then die.

[@bleunt]

What I hate though it that making really really difficult levels seem to be viewed as the pinnacle of design. It's not. Anyone can make a really really difficult level. "Hey, let's just take level 1-1 and add a shit load of firespinner everywhere." That is BAD level design. But it's stupid hard, so people think it's good. It's so sad. People lose track of the fun. It can be fun and hard at the same time. Or *gasp* just fun!

[@supermaiofroge]

I wish I was playing this more often but ... I am dry on Ideas lol.

[@kurtmatteson4914]

There's a subreddit exclusively about Mario Maker. It's a good place to find levels that can give you your own ideas.

[@supermaiofroge]

@@kurtmatteson4914 Thanks for the tip :)

[@kurtmatteson4914]

Also, you can watch the lessons in Yamamura's Dojo. You never know when inspiration may strike.

[@maggieent3215]

make a dry bones/desert level based on being out of ideas and see how creative you can make it.

[@QuayeEPICGAMER]

Make a falling selling

[@quackersencheese5081]

My favourite thing about Mario Maker 2 is seeing what I can recreate and put a twist to. Such as remaking the Sunken Ghost Ship as a traditional airship level, or remaking the Rise of the Mushroom Kingdom series.

[@akatobias]

I love making levels that are just so out of this world wacky. I've been working on a Galaga style shooter with upgrades, a level where Mario has to get tons of things to out weigh the titling platform, and an actually movie with Goombas and Koopa Troopas at war. It's so much fun. Also making levels and sharing them with friends only to ruin their lives is great.

[@kyrankatzenbach7135]

I absolutely love building, but I can never think of good ideas and it gets a little frustrating at times, but I keep trying

[@qondonyon]

Its a good game design because you can design a game itself

[@Hanhan-fi1dr]

The best part, for me, is the themes! Oh how wonderfully thematic some of them feel. Gone are the days of "eh guess I'll add this" where every item was used. Now we have actual levels, with core design elements. Rubber Ross is an amazing example of this, with his levels he only has around 2-4 unique objects, ignoring blocks. "This level has icecycles, twisters and on/off" made for a far better level than the MM1 "the only theme is bad design"

[@ronthehuman3618]

You should definitely look at levelhead! It has a unique 'marketing' mechanic to filter out levels, and interesting mechanics within the game itself.

[@tyleranders9972]

Came here to say this

[@rngwrldngnr]

I can respect many of the changes made to remove glitches or particular types of inputs (no midairs) that had legitimate uses but automatically barred a lot of people from trying. But I wish they had applied that kind of thought throughout, so that it was still possible to download courses to understand how they work, and to add the ability to watch ghosts of the upload clear and world record, to demystify the deliberately opaque. Having written those out, I can see how Nintendo's recommendation algorithm changes should be filtering out the levels where those features would be most useful, but even in that case, not being able to change or even just remove a vote feels bad.

[@Boooo]

dude, kaizos are becoming my favorite genre too, I really want to play through old kaizo rom hacks to get better at them.

[@WilliamHasMelted]

Unpopular opinion I miss the 100 Mario Challenge

[@WilliamHasMelted]

@Eric Lee is it not? All I hear is people not caring its gone

[@perttutunkkari3275]

@@WilliamHasMelted all I hear is people wanting it back because endless mode is boring without some kind "goal"

[@WilliamHasMelted]

@@perttutunkkari3275 yeah kinda

[@TeddyGBeats]

I love this game so much.. Both playing and making levels that are fun 🍄🏎👻

[@ironkeepgaming1936]

My favorite part of the game is how the many enemies interact with each other, it blew my mind

[@Interesting_Failure]

I hope it does have legs for years, because that's how long it's going to take me to finally make a decent stage

[@CreativeSteve69]

my favorite part of mario maker is messing around with the editor n finally built my first level ever yesterday since i didnt mess round with the editor in maker 1 but now after making my first level i became addicted to it now and also completing story mode too.

[@LeFaucheur]

I follow a youtuber who plays lots of mario maker and I noticed that he mostly came accross troll levels on MM1, and on MM2 the maps often seem well made and fun

[@dreamy4522]

The best part about Mario Maker is being able to make a recreation of Desert Bus in it

[@cursedex80]

1:30 having received a "first clear" award from an expert endless level, I can confirm you're wrong on this.

[@autismandgaming4532]

you...you gav ceave a shoutout...thank you :) EDIT: IMO the most underrated addition is rotating piranha plants (AKA Piranha plants sticking to solid surfaces)

[@FratFerno]

You know you're addicted to SMM2 when your favorites are all Super Expert.

[@ricardoortiz4870]

My favorite thing about Mario maker 2 is, clear conditions, and challenging levels.

[@williamdailey792]

The Mario Maker videos on Alpharad Plus are definitely my fav part of this game

[@reprogremTTV]

I like that I can make levels without my hands being cramped to hell from holding the gamepad or the stylus. That alone burned my creative drive out of my head with the original Mario Maker. In this one I actually took on a mini-project of making a 12 course game that ranges from Easy to Hard and it's been a lot of fun!

[@guyonyoutube3850]

I love how they fixed the enemy spam problem with the dry bones shell

[@Rationalific]

What a fantastic game. Thanks for the great video about it!

[@Warri0rLink]

The most enjoyable part for me has been Multiplayer Versus, and I like making courses in docked mode more than handheld mode. Fight me!

[@maggieent3215]

*roar* time to punch with the good old hat! wait, why are we fighting again? that sounds reasonable, actually. *doffs hat*

[@redlikerubes_]

Mario Maker was bound to get a port, but we got even more. We got a full fledged sequel. I remember watching Sno’s first Mario Maker video time and time again, always hoping for that sequel. Now the slogan means more than ever. Truly, anyone can make it, everyone can play it! #MarioMakerBois

[@zeemonrollin8340]

The sideways thwomp was my third favorite new addition.

[@clickbait3753]

*overall lack of bad stages I've come across* _chuckles in levels with a million bowsers and items that you find in online multiplayer_

[@Vallinen92]

I don't own a switch nor a Wiiu. But as a kid I spend like.. Most of my time playing Mario. Both on the NES and the all-stars version on the SNES. On the N64 I played a lot of Mario aswell. Lately I've found myself just binging on SMM 1 and 2 streams and videos. I really enjoy watching the pros play the Super Expert Levels.

[@MyHandleIsAplaceholder]

I don't have a Switch, but one of the aspects of this game I saw someone like is the fact people give you stars

[@SwissCheeseGaming]

You made another amazing review. You are by far the best in the business and you inspire me with my own channel. Keep it up!

[@snomangaming]

[@Randomman55555]

Good game disi- that’s the whole point it’s game design

[@FIELDERSCHOICE03]

one screen puzzlers. Cant get enough of them. You need to fully understand entire mechanics and use every mario muscle.

[@eviekujak8393]

But have you played Bowser's Big Bean Burrito?

[@antshield]

This game is so amazing! That being said, I HATE the "BOO" button. I think the stage have been good regardless. Tired of working hours to make a stage having my points go down because someone can't beat it. I don't add out of sight thwomps or obscure hidden block keys, why should I be punished?

[@Ssssssnakeisone]

Nice pitch, but with a few mistaken premises. Creators have not gotten better on average. The extra elements offer some possibilities, but uncreative application results in things like on/off speedrun clones and forced waiting on badly arranged snake blocks. Clear conditions are also a potential gain but a practical failure. Also, the main part of what was possible with element interaction in MM1 has been removed. Nintendo has taken a dislike to unintended gameplay and will swiftly delete levels or even accounts that utilize glitches (of which there are many) which actually make the game more interesting or fun. There are definitely interesting interactions in the new elements, but the overall tableau has been stripped of a lot of depth, seemingly to force a greater focus on traditional gameplay rather than item abuse. Speaking of which, p- switches and pows are now easier to jump off of, it's true. But shells and springs are much, much harder. The claw is applied primarily for tedious or taxing purpose; twisters are all but useless in good levels; Yoshi no longer provides power-ups; the koopa car is a hot mess of wasted potential; so on and so on, lots of things have changed for the worse or have very niche use. Dry bone shell is great but almost as op as cape was in smw. Still, there is a lot to be done with what's new; vertical and night themes, for instance. Except vertical only works in subworld, and the night themes repeat, (ghost/water, airship/sky) add nothing to gameplay,(castle, forest), or are misapplied to create hellish nightmares for endless and multi players. On that subject, endless can skip but multi cannot- nor can multi OR endless use filters. If a player doesn't want 3d world today, or DOES want smb1, well, too bad. The boo feature prevents absolutely nothing in the way of garbage purveyance. More is being made than can be booed. On the other hand, it WILL keep up-and-coming creators from being noticed, because the average (read:bad) player's response to a level they can't play is to rationalize the level is bad and boo it. For well-known creators of innovative yet difficult levels such as Panga or Barbarian, the likes and boos don't matter because they are publicized. For the GP making similar levels, get used to anonymity and no plays unless you drum them up yourself. Nintendo's helpful multiplayer algorithm for level seeding will also make sure harder levels are weeded out, in favor of "hold right to win in 5 seconds" or infinite powerup forced basic boss rush" levels made by people with the self-assured genius of a rodent that has figured out which button to press for the cocaine. This makes multiplayer an agonizing wade through loss after unearned loss due to rng rather than skill. Yay. Let's not forget the lag and wifi connectivity issues, because Nintendo doesn't want to pay for server maintenance, although they WILL charge a subscription fee to play. But hey, it's still a fun game- if it wasn't, I wouldn't have played it enough to know all this. Except I sometimes wonder if it's actually not that fun, and I'm just addicted. Either way, Nintendo could have done soooo much better with the title by simply adding quality of life options (restart from cp, filtering for every mode, etc) and functionality(servers for multi, algorithms that select more than easy levels). But Nintendo is the biggest troll of them all, and doesn't care about skilled players. That's why you get a soybean for beating 100 super expert levels in endless. GG, Nintendo. GG.

[@diegogarcia1939]

I love all the amazing and creative level many people from around the world they have made.

[@LextraYT]

I really really like mm2 but I also get really frustrated with some additions Like, so many of the additions are interactive and versatile, but the angry sun/moon is so, the opposite of that. It does one thing and that's it, and you can only have one per subworld! Plus, you can't put a sun in nighttime or a moon in daytime. On that point, the way mechanics are forcibly tied to day/night is really bad if I'm honest. Like, it's cute when you see it the first time, but eventually you just start to get frustrated. "I'd like to make this ground level at night" - you can do it but now you're not allowed to place 1-up mushrooms, goombas float in the air, and thwomps chase you "I want to make a sandstorm" - ok but only at night, you fool, you absolute moron "This stage uses the castle aesthetic but I want it to be night-time" - swim time! Did you not want swim time? Too bad, swim time! "can I place the poison mushroom?" - Are you in the ground night-time theme? - "no" - Then how dare you "Ok so I like the look of night-time but I want the music to stay the same" - *knowing smirk* It's just a really bad implementation of some really good ideas. I wish the game was more modular, I wish you could put water, poison, or lava in any level, I wish you could toggle night-time aesthetics, music, and mechanics separately, hell, more than that, I wish the night-time mechanics were a separate option altogether from the theme, and I wish you could use whatever music you wanted for whatever stage you wanted. There's just a lot of problems with modularity. If you want to use the tools in the specific way the devs intended you're allowed, otherwise you're blocked. Only three liquid speeds, only three scroll speeds, no way to set, say, a trigger for liquid to move to a specific place or something like that, no way to permanently change between different sound effect music tracks partway through a stage, only two subworlds, it just leaves me with a lot of frustration trying to put my ideas into action. More than anything the game could really just use like a trigger/flag system, and I hope they add one.

[@eloisegerard1888]

I can't with Lexie "OOoh yeah He's addicted"

[@rollingkirby]

“deeply breaths” WHERE IS THE FROG

[@razbuten]

But what about Zelda 2 Maker?

[@benedict6962]

a stage where Midna, Fi, and Navi float around you at the same time

[@cryanide87]

I love this game but it feels like you have to have the BEST aesthetics just to get plays so I lose a lot of my motivation to make more levels.

[@ronster.]

I *love* online versus when it doesn’t spaz out on me. Making is also really fun! I enjoy going to the discord and criticizing, playing, and seeing cool new courses and ideas. I love the game so much!!

[@150alv]

I'm love with everything in this game. (Maybe to much speedruns levels but overall the amount of content is huge)

[@rukeyburg1084]

My favourite thing about smm2? Multiplayer Well actually I have won almost all the games up to this point...

[@pirate_cove_man]

The best part about the game is the new 3.0 update.

[@beardlessdragon]

Interesting and refreshing perspective. I've heard others say the overall level quality sucks

[@smmemperorlucifer4675]

"Try browsing the top stages in the Super Expert category" Yes please, I have a handful up there! Particularly my Oni Shell levels where a giant shell chases you destroying the ground behind you, same thing I was famous for in SMM1, and I've gotten nearly 40,000 players on just two levels combined in the last month. Also check out Reus' levels. He's near the top of the leaderboard, and he makes some of the best exciting, slightly tougher but not terribly difficult levels!

[@diandracats]

No one: Panga when he add tags to a level: sTAnDaRd

[@hasanabir115]

'Short and Sweet'

[@Aces00]

Hey Snoman, just here to say you're the best

[@a.rustici1972]

Watching it on KZbin because I like the variety of levels! Thank You for asking! :D!

[@BagelBrain]

I recommend watching Skawo's playthrough of SMM2's story mode if you want criticism on the design of story mode's levels. They mostly aren't well-designed.

[@shelledguy5587]

tbh he was a bit harsh on some of the levels. and at least none of the story mode levels were real hot garbage (y'know, with kaizo blocks and such)

[@tax_fraud3030]

Creating is the game's strongest aspect for me. In my opinion, every game should have a creation tool like Mario Maker's. If a puzzle heavy series like Zelda or a more action based game like Sonic had a level making tool, the results would be amazing.

[@simolaodonnell]

Snowman, please do "Alto Adventure" for "Good Game Design", it's a game for the Smartphones but gosh, is well-made.

[@pinksywedarnoc8017]

That game us wonderful you should play Alto's odyssey where it take place in the desert and you can get a special board and ride on rocks with the board!!! (you have to find it while playing the game.)

[@simolaodonnell]

@@pinksywedarnoc8017 Yes, but I play Alto's Odyssey after Alto's Adventure. One thing I don't like about Alto's Odyssey is a graphical glitch that sometimes appear and annoying me, but it's not bad. I have a Smartphone of the 2015 and I can play these games at a good Framerate. (Usually go on 60 FPS)

[@simolaodonnell]

Votes: Alto's Adventure: 9 / 10 Alto's Odyssey: 8,5 / 10

[@pinksywedarnoc8017]

There's a glitch??? I never had that when I played alto's odyssey

[@simolaodonnell]

@@pinksywedarnoc8017 Maybe the Graphical glitch appear just on me, but don't worry!

[@TamsmitSam]

One thing I really wish mario maker 2 had was advanced level editing options. There are so many cool level ideas I've had that were completely ruined by the default game options. Like being able to change whether a specific enemy respawns off screen or an enemy's movement speed.

[@jvanb1751]

Using bombs and blocks could help with respawning off-screen, using a conveyor could help with movement speed. But yeah those are pretty complex contraptions to get right...

[@lucasfinzi9000]

Hey snowman, I'm a big fan of the series and you got me into game design. I think that you should take a look at Zero Ranger on steam. It's twelve dollars and its a great indie title that deserves more recognition than it gets.

[@kotyanyan]

1-1 with twist is the best level i have ever seen

[@jessewhite9722]

I’m currently making a course series with likes averaging around 10-30ish, but I have one specific course that has gotten more than 160 No Idea how that Happened, but I’m thankful Regardless

[@maggieent3215]

ooh sounds interesting