Good Game Design - Super Mario Maker 2: Building Better Creators

Mario Maker 2 has been incredibly addicting since its release. I've been hooked on creating my own stages and learning new ways to utilize the plethora of tools at our disposal. Let's talk about how this sequel upped the ante in terms of teaching and encouraged better game design in its creators.
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[@styx6661]

I think the best thing about the game is just how much they push fairness when creating courses. In so many of the tutorial lessons in the dojo, they repeatedly bash you over the head with making stages that are fair first, difficult later. Feels like they recognised how much people get sick of seeing insane troll levels and, without just outright not allowing them to be made, communicated the idea of making levels fairly and how that can still be fun for people to play and make.

[@Melecie]

troll levels are still a popular level type tho, it’s just to prevent hot garbage levels like those that start you off with a giant thwomp on your head

[@Fupicat]

Yeah, troll levels are still fun to play for some, but now you have to search for them instead of getting them in an endless run and completely ruining it.

[@UltimatePerfection]

@@Fupicat How am I supposed to have fun when other people have fun?

[@calebhessing7593]

I was the 69th like. Hooray.

[@HeavyEyed]

Hey Sno i love ya but where are the checkpoints

[@grankwastaken]

My theory is confirmed hahaha

[@Moss_Dude]

I have been privileged with the honor of being this comments 69th like

[@battroborgbattles2018]

Nice

[@Neppix_]

Nice

[@bareesproductionsE31ZI6]

Nice

[@ChristopherMoom]

Nah, I'm not addicted to Mario Maker 2. **Glances at my 200+ hours spent on it**

[@cloudy772]

Christopher Moon lol same

[@as0mn]

Looks at mine *220 hours*

[@PastorToadie]

You're everywhere!

[@oliviabitecofer1005]

Pathetic. I have 450 in Smash.

[@floopydoopyy]

I swear. I see you everywhere!

[@yeenyweeny8241]

Your like the only youtuber who says ‘ I prefer the making part of the game’. Props to you.

[@happycamperds9917]

YeenyWeeny Assuming your not a KZbinr dedicated solely to creating MM levels.

[@yeenyweeny8241]

DekuShrub 99 of course

[@jeffzzzz1955]

Same I'm more of a creative person so I can spend hours just making a level And I'm not talking about hot garbage bowser spam or unfinished pipes

[@littlestrike6811]

I’ve easily spend triple the time making levels than I do playing them.

[@JonathanTash]

Making theses videos is probably a form of procrastination for him. I bet he could make a cool video game himself.

[@seathealchemyst]

The community is my favorite part. Never have I seen such a healthy, wholesome, thriving community on the internet exist the way the mario maker community does. Most conversations involve playtesting and critiquing, or discussing unique discoveries and contraptions

[@harrylane4]

Nintendo isnt usually very good at online, but that bad online sometimes leads to really wholesome communities. I'm looking at you, Tri-Force Heroes

[@zeemonrollin8340]

Ya people find out new contraptions that they share with rest of the maker community so that is forever expanding and improving. I found out you can use on offs with conveyors stacked with a wall cannon on the side of it to move it up and down which I used to create the arcade game centipede in Super Mario maker 2.

[@toadrice]

Yes, it isn't toxic like Paper Mario or Smash.

[@meriotroid]

Super Mario Maker 1 already almost never got boring, and Super Mario Maker 2 just adds dozens of new things to work with. I really doubt I'm ever going to get tired of playing this game 😅

[@randomguyontheinternet7940]

@EdZ123 Th9ught you said Micheal P. For a moment there lol

[@bryanautumn8899]

The boo feature is a good idea and all but it can also really screw over perfectly talented course makers. All it takes is for the first few people playing your levels to be complete Neanderthals that exit your stage as soon as they fail even once and give your stage a Boo and nobody's going to play your stage after that. Not unless you go around shoving your course ID in everyone's faces and even that's not a guarantee. I don't know how I can make my courses any easier without being patronizing and yet most people can't complete any of the courses I publish.

[@mbdg6810]

elaboration does allow for better criticism then just a thumb up or down i will admit , but its a step in the right direction .

[@mariannmariann2052]

Another reason that the levels are WAY better because unlike SMM1 where levels IMMEDIATELY get thrown into the level pool upon upload, SMM2 levels enter a New Courses section where they can have a chance to enter the level pool by getting a like and being played. New Courses courses don't appear in the Endless Challenge.

[@wirsig3675]

Snowman, you forgot to talk about the best level, minecraft; the way home

[@jonahtran1834]

heck yeah

[@ciaranpatrick6859]

Wirsig Boys the classic level by Alex the 9

[@wirsig3675]

@@ciaranpatrick6859 ah yes, classic

[@ryanzephyr3417]

A genius level in every way possible

[@alan-daniel]

(can't tell if it's a joke or not) Anyone have a level code, by chance?

[@BlackieSootfur]

I got really excited to finally have the money to buy the game but didn't realize that i had to have Nintendo online to play other people's levels Which i guess makes sense but i'm still kinda salty about it, that's all i wanted it for. Ive been having fun in the creator though

[@maromania7]

At least online is cheap for these sorts of things. $20 for a year is not bad. PS is $50, and gold membership is $60.

[@BlackieSootfur]

@@maromania7 yeah i wrote this comment before i checked the price for it, i have it now lmao this is awesome

[@SoraFan23]

The only problems I have with Mario Maker 2 is that some of the clear condition in Story Mode are not available in the course maker and the multiplayer is still laggy. I know Nintendo said they were going to add Friends Online but the game has been out for a month and we still don't have it yet. Regardless I enjoy this game. My favorite part is playing different levels because I see what people create and it gives me a reason to keep coming back and playing different levels. Its way better than it was in Mario Maker 1.

[@MoonSpiritChannel]

It's truly amazing what gamers can truly make all because of their passion for the franchise. I'll probably never achieve that type of creativity, but I'm glad everyone is. Plus, seeing Super Mario Land Mario is surreal in this day and age.

[@razbuten]

But what about Zelda 2 Maker?

[@benedict6962]

a stage where Midna, Fi, and Navi float around you at the same time

[@monixdoteexee2305]

Making ridiculously hard levels is fun up until I have to beat them for uploading also best level is mario goes to mcdonalds

[@eviekujak8393]

But have you played Bowser's Big Bean Burrito?

[@trueblueryu5713]

I try so excessively to get world records on this game too, it’s great for kids and game veterans.

[@twilighttoast01]

Yeah I getting World Records just feel so satisfying and I'm trying to rack up more and more as I play. I just wish I could see the number of World Records I hold at a given time because as far as I know I haven't been able to find that.

[@blackcode08]

Go to course world, press ‘y’, then use ‘r’ to scroll to the far right tab where you will find a list of your wr’s.

[@WilliamHasMelted]

Unpopular opinion I miss the 100 Mario Challenge

[@WilliamHasMelted]

@Eric Lee is it not? All I hear is people not caring its gone

[@perttutunkkari3275]

@@WilliamHasMelted all I hear is people wanting it back because endless mode is boring without some kind "goal"

[@WilliamHasMelted]

@@perttutunkkari3275 yeah kinda

[@supermaiofroge]

I wish I was playing this more often but ... I am dry on Ideas lol.

[@kurtmatteson4914]

There's a subreddit exclusively about Mario Maker. It's a good place to find levels that can give you your own ideas.

[@supermaiofroge]

@@kurtmatteson4914 Thanks for the tip :)

[@kurtmatteson4914]

Also, you can watch the lessons in Yamamura's Dojo. You never know when inspiration may strike.

[@maggieent3215]

make a dry bones/desert level based on being out of ideas and see how creative you can make it.

[@QuayeEPICGAMER]

Make a falling selling

[@patricktaylor6173]

The thing that I enjoy the most is making well designed traditional levels, that feel like they would fit right in to an actual Mario game

[@Terapagos3000]

Yeah I think there's a bit of a lack of them. Would be cool if more people did those.

[@Pedro_eqw]

Check out Super Mario Maker World, it's like a game inside SMM. I saw on Blue Television Games.

[@twilighttoast01]

Yeah I like those levels a lot because there is a, at least for me, preference for Speed over anything on those levels. You can just blaze through them and try to see how fast you can be the lv.

[@grammajam3682]

I am very ambitious on my stages. It usually gets me a low of rate of plays to hearts, but I still enjoy thinking outside the box. I'm working on a level for 2 players. One person can play as Link and the other plays as Mario. The 2 heroes work together to clear a puzzle.

[@Drake_Waffle]

*Mentions Ceave gaming* LIKE THE VIDEO NOW

[@cloudy772]

My favorite part is when you have a good idea and you make the level and then you go back through and tweak and decorate and put coins and tweak the level until perfection

[@snomangaming]

Yes absolutely!

[@raph2550]

You basically described the whole process XD

[@cloudy772]

Raphaël I’m specifically talking about after you make the level

[@JetWolfEX]

I usually make the gimmicks first then I select and move them in order of difficulty, space them out. then I fill that space with simple areas for basic platforming, powerups, secrets and maybe a checkpoint. I rarely have it planned out from the beginning I just make them as I go. decoration is the most fun part.

[@BetterDonutGamer]

"Overall lack of bad stages" *yeah right* Edit: unlike the first tho

[@VladlustTV]

The sequel was extremely well done, great video Snoman!

[@grammajam3682]

I know right. To be honest, I'd call the game a masterpiece after the recent update.

[@grammajam3682]

It might just be my favorite game on the Switch with Odyssey and Breath of the Wild.

[@novacorponline]

I had a completely different experience from you, and it seems, a lot of streamers. Don't know why, I watch people play and they get good level after good level and it looks like a lot of fun, then I hop into endless mode and it's an unending marathon of levels designed under the principle of "If I force the player to die unavoidably a bunch of times, it'll make my level's difficulty rating higher".

[@Jyukenmaster95]

Imagine having a MM2 Favorite Stages list in your video without mentioning "minecraft; the way home" by Alex the 9 😂

[@harrylane4]

CREEPER

[@maggieent3215]

@@harrylane4 PARROT

[@desmondcayce]

@@harrylane4 AWW mAN

[@lukelcs8934]

@@desmondcayce you just had to! XD!

[@matiidesign]

The best part is making a level and being sent praises or feedback, honestly. Although I hate that If you wanna make a hard level, and want to put checkpoints, you have to play the stage twice

[@clickbait3753]

I mean, it's kind of necessary as clearing without clearing checkpoints as well could leave to people getting trapped if they activate a checkpoint then die.

[@al_x2138]

Ahh, back when people actually made good levels. And the popular tab had actually some good levels and not the same rehashed mechanics and themes

[@1finalchance881]

I remember when you made your first bullet chaser level in your SMW Romhack. Back before you privated all of your old videos. Good times.

[@Stephen-Fox]

I think my favourite part of creating levels is how easy it is to get them looking.... Decent... it is in MM2 vs MM1, thanks in part to scroll stop, which just helps encourage making levels.

[@CreamerOfTheDairySquad]

Lol lack of bad stages? Play multiplayer you will find a lot of bad stages often in a row. I mean TRASH stages and not just stages that just don't work for versus I'm not even counting those

[@EmeraldMan25]

"Course world seems to function properly now, so the top stages are always ones that everyone enjoys and rates highly" Whelp

[@rukeyburg1084]

My favourite thing about smm2? Multiplayer Well actually I have won almost all the games up to this point...

[@bleunt]

What I hate though it that making really really difficult levels seem to be viewed as the pinnacle of design. It's not. Anyone can make a really really difficult level. "Hey, let's just take level 1-1 and add a shit load of firespinner everywhere." That is BAD level design. But it's stupid hard, so people think it's good. It's so sad. People lose track of the fun. It can be fun and hard at the same time. Or *gasp* just fun!

[@usernamething6977]

I might play that *getting over it* level.... Larl's (been) back! ( ╹▽╹ )

[@clickbait3753]

*overall lack of bad stages I've come across* _chuckles in levels with a million bowsers and items that you find in online multiplayer_

[@ronthehuman3618]

You should definitely look at levelhead! It has a unique 'marketing' mechanic to filter out levels, and interesting mechanics within the game itself.

[@tyleranders9972]

Came here to say this

[@reosrus83]

Love your videos! Unfortunately when I go in Endless mode I get LOTS of stinkers still but it's probably before they've been boo'd a fair amount (or was it just one course at a time.. there were some were I couldn't like or boo, maybe an option until something's been beaten) but yeah I hear you on creativity.. I thrive for it and have been building lots. Glad to hear you are addicted too!

[@AnneIglesias]

If anyone here still plays Mario Maker 1 because they can’t afford 2 or a Switch yet, please check out levels by a user named Bourgyman. He has moved on to the sequel as well and is currently creating great new levels, but he has left behind some pretty genius and entertaining ones in the original. Make sure to download them and enjoy before the online service gets cut for Wii U!

[@jessewhite9722]

I’m currently making a course series with likes averaging around 10-30ish, but I have one specific course that has gotten more than 160 No Idea how that Happened, but I’m thankful Regardless

[@maggieent3215]

ooh sounds interesting

[@Garathon]

"Some levels need to be liked first", the words of a popular creator Edit: 8:30 not fun when your courses are not played

[@cryanide87]

I love this game but it feels like you have to have the BEST aesthetics just to get plays so I lose a lot of my motivation to make more levels.

[@rollingkirby]

“deeply breaths” WHERE IS THE FROG

[@simolaodonnell]

Snowman, please do "Alto Adventure" for "Good Game Design", it's a game for the Smartphones but gosh, is well-made.

[@pinksywedarnoc8017]

That game us wonderful you should play Alto's odyssey where it take place in the desert and you can get a special board and ride on rocks with the board!!! (you have to find it while playing the game.)

[@simolaodonnell]

@@pinksywedarnoc8017 Yes, but I play Alto's Odyssey after Alto's Adventure. One thing I don't like about Alto's Odyssey is a graphical glitch that sometimes appear and annoying me, but it's not bad. I have a Smartphone of the 2015 and I can play these games at a good Framerate. (Usually go on 60 FPS)

[@simolaodonnell]

Votes: Alto's Adventure: 9 / 10 Alto's Odyssey: 8,5 / 10

[@pinksywedarnoc8017]

There's a glitch??? I never had that when I played alto's odyssey

[@simolaodonnell]

@@pinksywedarnoc8017 Maybe the Graphical glitch appear just on me, but don't worry!

[@TeddyGBeats]

I love this game so much.. Both playing and making levels that are fun 🍄🏎👻

[@SuperDupTNT]

Thanks for the series "good game design" while I'm not making games right now it will help me when I do

[@jonwallace6204]

I’ve been loving the Getting Over It levels. As long as each individual jump is easy it’s that perfect “tough but fair.”

[@bingus_luver5984]

bro you didn't even mention the best level, Minecraft the way home

[@bumblebeegamerreal]

2 years later and they ended support for updates. RIP

[@LextraYT]

I really really like mm2 but I also get really frustrated with some additions Like, so many of the additions are interactive and versatile, but the angry sun/moon is so, the opposite of that. It does one thing and that's it, and you can only have one per subworld! Plus, you can't put a sun in nighttime or a moon in daytime. On that point, the way mechanics are forcibly tied to day/night is really bad if I'm honest. Like, it's cute when you see it the first time, but eventually you just start to get frustrated. "I'd like to make this ground level at night" - you can do it but now you're not allowed to place 1-up mushrooms, goombas float in the air, and thwomps chase you "I want to make a sandstorm" - ok but only at night, you fool, you absolute moron "This stage uses the castle aesthetic but I want it to be night-time" - swim time! Did you not want swim time? Too bad, swim time! "can I place the poison mushroom?" - Are you in the ground night-time theme? - "no" - Then how dare you "Ok so I like the look of night-time but I want the music to stay the same" - *knowing smirk* It's just a really bad implementation of some really good ideas. I wish the game was more modular, I wish you could put water, poison, or lava in any level, I wish you could toggle night-time aesthetics, music, and mechanics separately, hell, more than that, I wish the night-time mechanics were a separate option altogether from the theme, and I wish you could use whatever music you wanted for whatever stage you wanted. There's just a lot of problems with modularity. If you want to use the tools in the specific way the devs intended you're allowed, otherwise you're blocked. Only three liquid speeds, only three scroll speeds, no way to set, say, a trigger for liquid to move to a specific place or something like that, no way to permanently change between different sound effect music tracks partway through a stage, only two subworlds, it just leaves me with a lot of frustration trying to put my ideas into action. More than anything the game could really just use like a trigger/flag system, and I hope they add one.

[@Christopher-md7tf]

I love your calm style. Keep it up man

[@Warri0rLink]

The most enjoyable part for me has been Multiplayer Versus, and I like making courses in docked mode more than handheld mode. Fight me!

[@maggieent3215]

*roar* time to punch with the good old hat! wait, why are we fighting again? that sounds reasonable, actually. *doffs hat*

[@Ssssssnakeisone]

Nice pitch, but with a few mistaken premises. Creators have not gotten better on average. The extra elements offer some possibilities, but uncreative application results in things like on/off speedrun clones and forced waiting on badly arranged snake blocks. Clear conditions are also a potential gain but a practical failure. Also, the main part of what was possible with element interaction in MM1 has been removed. Nintendo has taken a dislike to unintended gameplay and will swiftly delete levels or even accounts that utilize glitches (of which there are many) which actually make the game more interesting or fun. There are definitely interesting interactions in the new elements, but the overall tableau has been stripped of a lot of depth, seemingly to force a greater focus on traditional gameplay rather than item abuse. Speaking of which, p- switches and pows are now easier to jump off of, it's true. But shells and springs are much, much harder. The claw is applied primarily for tedious or taxing purpose; twisters are all but useless in good levels; Yoshi no longer provides power-ups; the koopa car is a hot mess of wasted potential; so on and so on, lots of things have changed for the worse or have very niche use. Dry bone shell is great but almost as op as cape was in smw. Still, there is a lot to be done with what's new; vertical and night themes, for instance. Except vertical only works in subworld, and the night themes repeat, (ghost/water, airship/sky) add nothing to gameplay,(castle, forest), or are misapplied to create hellish nightmares for endless and multi players. On that subject, endless can skip but multi cannot- nor can multi OR endless use filters. If a player doesn't want 3d world today, or DOES want smb1, well, too bad. The boo feature prevents absolutely nothing in the way of garbage purveyance. More is being made than can be booed. On the other hand, it WILL keep up-and-coming creators from being noticed, because the average (read:bad) player's response to a level they can't play is to rationalize the level is bad and boo it. For well-known creators of innovative yet difficult levels such as Panga or Barbarian, the likes and boos don't matter because they are publicized. For the GP making similar levels, get used to anonymity and no plays unless you drum them up yourself. Nintendo's helpful multiplayer algorithm for level seeding will also make sure harder levels are weeded out, in favor of "hold right to win in 5 seconds" or infinite powerup forced basic boss rush" levels made by people with the self-assured genius of a rodent that has figured out which button to press for the cocaine. This makes multiplayer an agonizing wade through loss after unearned loss due to rng rather than skill. Yay. Let's not forget the lag and wifi connectivity issues, because Nintendo doesn't want to pay for server maintenance, although they WILL charge a subscription fee to play. But hey, it's still a fun game- if it wasn't, I wouldn't have played it enough to know all this. Except I sometimes wonder if it's actually not that fun, and I'm just addicted. Either way, Nintendo could have done soooo much better with the title by simply adding quality of life options (restart from cp, filtering for every mode, etc) and functionality(servers for multi, algorithms that select more than easy levels). But Nintendo is the biggest troll of them all, and doesn't care about skilled players. That's why you get a soybean for beating 100 super expert levels in endless. GG, Nintendo. GG.

[@LibertyLocalizer]

I can't believe Nintendo still hasn't put the stone in the game, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ALREADY IN THE GAME!

[@PinguGnu]

XD8-MGV-TDG I remade the first level of shovel Knight in Mario maker id appreciate it if you tried it out

[@Carson285]

My favourite part of super mario maker 2 is making courses, I like thinking of game designs and jotting some ideas.

[@NicolasMontchery]

Trying to improve my game design, I let you check W4T-F8K-QXG. "Trial of the braves".

[@Aces00]

Hey Snoman, just here to say you're the best

[@dr00py70]

Friends : Why do you keep playing Mario Maker 2 and not getting bored? Me : It's actually *surprisingly simple*

[@Ezel_142]

I think the only things that kinda bother me in Mario Maker 2 is the lack of visual stuff you could add (sometimes) and that the game presets certain stuff for you (examples: low gravity, upside-down levels, etc.) and I wish people would be able to toggle that on or off. An option to set your own amount of lives for Endless Challenges would also be useful (it'd cap at 50 or 100) Apart from that SMM2 is miles better than the prequel

[@rodring1]

Hey guys, I added Spanish subtitles to the video, could someone review and approve them so they become available. Thanks.

[@kevyrs99]

minecraft; the way home

[@jk-vl4vu]

Too bad this game only got two updates and is now pretty dead. One of my favorite switch games, and I still play it to this day, but I hardly know anyone who has it and still plays it.

[@tdark987]

I'm pretty including the heavy stones and Toad collection levels in story mode was a deliberate choice to act as a teaser for new features yet to come - or features that just weren't ready in time for release; those two stuck me as having the potential to be particularly bug-prone if thrown haphazardly into a level, and they seem to be making a definite point of preventing bugs and exploits this time around.

[@maggieent3215]

I like that it's on the switch, but I still wish some costumes were included in the game. When I finally get a mario maker game, I suppose I could make do... I think I'll like the music stages. also the game has a good visual style and fun to watch. And the story mode sounds amusing.

[@Rationalific]

What a fantastic game. Thanks for the great video about it!

[@autismandgaming4532]

you...you gav ceave a shoutout...thank you :) EDIT: IMO the most underrated addition is rotating piranha plants (AKA Piranha plants sticking to solid surfaces)

[@axilie]

The top courses part aged really poorly. The system favors copypaste speedruns and "refreshings"

[@antshield]

This game is so amazing! That being said, I HATE the "BOO" button. I think the stage have been good regardless. Tired of working hours to make a stage having my points go down because someone can't beat it. I don't add out of sight thwomps or obscure hidden block keys, why should I be punished?

[@noise7257]

why did u boo 1-1 with a twist....... rude........

[@rockypikmin4493]

People first month: This game is a true masterpiece. I can see its potential for years to come After first month: Wait Mario Majer had a sequel?!

[@randomdaydreamer9970]

Actually now your level needs at least 1 like to show up in Endless Challenge, that's the reason you haven't seen many bad stages.

[@Technonova323]

I love Mario maker 2 so much but when I’m making stuff I just think of a bunch of ideas and can’t choose which one to make. Afterwards, I just go back to playing levels instead because I don’t know what to make.

[@tristenj1992]

Kaizo Mario is not my idea of fun so I think I'll be staying away from a lot of your recommendations. Luckily the game offers a lot more than that

[@ramkingplays9995]

I'm actually planning on making my own game by making stages and there going to be things you see in a actual game like my version of the first world will be peaceful plains

[@bevmeyers6477]

Gee, snoman hates multiplayer... wonder why, oh yeah, you need actual friends for that to be fun

[@Interesting_Failure]

I hope it does have legs for years, because that's how long it's going to take me to finally make a decent stage

[@kyrankatzenbach7135]

I absolutely love building, but I can never think of good ideas and it gets a little frustrating at times, but I keep trying

[@supersonicsandshrew9742]

You have played Mario maker 2 for more then a month and have not found many bad levels you should go buy a lottery ticket

[@beardlessdragon]

Interesting and refreshing perspective. I've heard others say the overall level quality sucks

[@cursedex80]

1:30 having received a "first clear" award from an expert endless level, I can confirm you're wrong on this.

[@rafaeltozo3173]

The only reason i am not addicted to Mario Maker 2 is because Fire Emblem Three Houses has taken that spot

[@James-ii2rp]

i got the game when i came out and over a year later i JUST realized that the claws have a different face when holding something

[@Stephen-Fox]

They need at least one play, I'm not sure they need any likes, but if they don't get any likes (and especially if they're getting boos) they'll stop showing up before long. I've... Encountered a couple of 0 clears and I think 0 likes in endless. Only improvement I'd like to see in teaching game design is turning Yamamura's Dojo into a more interactive experience in a third game (or a patch) than sitting and watching text boxes explain these things. Make it more hands on.

[@The-Vitruvian-Man]

People, please stop making levels where the wrong door or pipe automatically kills you. It makes the game worse.

[@nintendoboy3605]

I feel like the story mode of mario maker 2 is very underrated it teaches the player how to make good courses while also feeling like its own mario maker game and if nintendo wants to add more course parts as DLC i want it to come with more story mode.

[@luckyg8]

Lmao the “1-1 but with a twist” is a by a youtuber named sunny lmao

[@razbuten]

Oh and early?

[@BagelBrain]

I recommend watching Skawo's playthrough of SMM2's story mode if you want criticism on the design of story mode's levels. They mostly aren't well-designed.

[@shelledguy5587]

tbh he was a bit harsh on some of the levels. and at least none of the story mode levels were real hot garbage (y'know, with kaizo blocks and such)

[@pirate_cove_man]

The best part about the game is the new 3.0 update.

[@frozenbread8651]

STONE GANG RISE UP!!!!!

[@awesomedude5558]

Good Game Design? More like No game design.

[@oobs-gamingandmore4249]

“The leaderboards aren’t garbage” this aged poorly. Now the leaderboards are just speed runs, kaizos and refreshing levels.

[@justaspectator9762]

Speedruns aren't inherently bad and can be done well. And Kaizo is awesome, not sure if I agree with that outside of refreshing levels

[@oobs-gamingandmore4249]

@@justaspectator9762 Good points. The problem is that there's just too much of those and not enough unique ones.

[@justaspectator9762]

@@oobs-gamingandmore4249 I just hate the mindset that Kaizo levels are inherently bad. So many people seem to lump them in with "troll" levels, (which, even those have improved if you look in the right places)

[@oobs-gamingandmore4249]

@@justaspectator9762 Yeah kaizo isn't inheriently bad.

[@justingiles8771]

And now everything is music and auto

[@fredd4279]

make it easy... add checkpoints.... UGH

[@jsettle]

Liked the video at the 20 second mark😂

[@Randomman55555]

Good game disi- that’s the whole point it’s game design

[@qondonyon]

Its a good game design because you can design a game itself

[@hamishwalker9637]

Y'all know what the best level is minecraft;the way home.

[@KnakuanaRka]

Hamish Walker Why do people keep spamming that one in the comments?

[@TamsmitSam]

One thing I really wish mario maker 2 had was advanced level editing options. There are so many cool level ideas I've had that were completely ruined by the default game options. Like being able to change whether a specific enemy respawns off screen or an enemy's movement speed.

[@jvanb1751]

Using bombs and blocks could help with respawning off-screen, using a conveyor could help with movement speed. But yeah those are pretty complex contraptions to get right...

[@jordanwarner1352]

Wait until you see the point n click level