Good Omens || More Than Just Maggie || Character Analysis and Theory

[@barbarabenoit3667]

I know one of Maggies secrets: Maggie was a nun before she became a shop owner.

[@maizie9454]

she was also dead!

[@HuntingViolets]

@@maizie9454 Maybe she resurrected when Adam reset things. (I'm kidding; her death was prior to That Day.)

[@Sendarya]

Maggie Service was a nun. Maggie the record shop owner is confirmed to not be the same as the nun by Neil.

[@HuntingViolets]

@@Sendarya Just joking (I think we all were).

[@clarepurves9759]

As was nina

[@mill-i-am]

A key point is "Maggie family have had eyes on Aziraphale for the last 100 years." I wonder if even before Maggie's Great-grandmother, if the family have been following Aziraphale for centuries?

[@Sendarya]

It's completely possible! Who Carved Gabriel's statue at least 200 years ago? Someone seems to know a bit about angels in the UK

[@m.w.5972]

​@@SendaryaAlso!! Have you noticed how it's always Nina who is confused about what's going on with all the ethereal/occult things but Maggie seems quite... Not surprised? Like it does cause her some emotions that she needs to go through, clearly, but she isn't shocked to see strange things happening. It can't just be an oversight, not in a series like this, where even tiny glances and barely mouthed words have a meaning!

[@janmccoy52]

If Maggie and Nina's are the immortals from GO1, it could have been Maggie herself, but to disguise her age, she said her grandmother. And that's why she is not surprised or afraid to see the demons invade the shop. I agree with Sendarya, the bad spelling is a clue, perhaps to the fact that Maggie is an immortal and a demon as when she was a nun.

[@user-tw9pp1yb3i]

Maggie also says “no judgement” when Nina drinks her emergency wine. That has always felt a little odd to me.

[@skips9761]

I’ve been wanting to rant about this for so long, and Maggie I saw Maggie in the title and thought it was a good time to talk about it (even it’s irrelevant). It’s obvious that Maggie and Nina are direct parallels to Aziraphale and Crowley, yet not in the way we would think. Maggie is the soft, angelic appearing one, who looks similar to Aziraphale in her and Nina’s dynamic, and the same for Nina. Yet, their mirrors are actually reversed. Maggie reflects Crowley (which might also be a suggestion to her potential demon identity, you never know), as she is willing to wait for Nina and falls first. Nina at first is in obvious denial, fighting moral good and dealing with a toxic relationship, pushing Maggie away, but she keeps on coming back. Similarly to Aziraphale and Crowley. Nina is in obvious toxic relationship with her partner, just as the same that Aziraphale has a toxic relationship with heaven. (I know this has been established for a while I find it incredibly interesting.) Aziraphale needs more time to think through his actions, as he believes he is not ready for Crowley yet. Just as Nina says she isn’t ready for Maggie, and that she hopes she will be there when she will. Aziraphale doesn’t want things to be rushed, and unfortunately because of how late Crowley was to admitting his feelings, the entire confession sequence lacked him of logical thought and left him confused. We’ve seen this before, Aziraphale expressing that Crowley was “too fast for him”, exactly comparing to Nina saying she isn’t ready for Maggie yet. This could be showing us how we are easily tricked or mislead, and that characters aren’t what we assumed they are. Just as we never assumed that Aziraphale would leave. I really hope Maggie and Nina return as their trope is so interesting. Please correct me if I’ve misspoken or there’s anything you want to add ❤

[@Miriam-eb2iu]

🤯 simply amazing comparison 👏! And so true!

[@Daniel-et5gn]

And at the end Maggie sleeps on her desk... waiting for... Just as C has slept for a while during centuries...

[@Sendarya]

Yes, both chatacters incorporate dune each of Crowley and Aziraphale. They aren't direct parallels. They are an amalgam. Great points!

[@andreavictoriaparadiso47]

@@Daniel-et5gn Excellent point! There are also images of cherubs sleeping on desks, I remember now that you drew my attention to this!

[@artiehartsell]

she also walked in front of the demons without being attacked all the way to the bookstore

[@AddledMongoose]

We don't actually know if Crowley couldn't invite Shax into the bookshop. He could certainly have been lying about that, and it's plausible enough that Shax didn't question it. For me the biggest "what's up with Maggie" moment was when she went to Nina just before the end and convinced her, a small business owner, to drop everything she was doing in the middle of morning rush, to go talk to Crowley right that minute. Why wouldn't Nina say, "OK, give me about an hour?" or "My baristas don't come in for another 30 minutes?" Why would she leave an actual line of customers waiting to go talk to a guy she barely knows about a subject she had literally zero reason to believe was urgent? (Or ugrent).

[@Sendarya]

Because, Maggie is the eye and hand of Providence! She's able to do things just different and improbable, though never impossible, enough to make the changes needed to keep the ineffable plan on track. I mean, that's my theory. :)

[@FallacyBites]

​@@Sendaryahuh. The misspelling as ugrent makes me think of 'ugh, rent' which is what the conversation was about. I was assuming it was 'just' a play on words and a way of sending a not-so-secret message. But maybe she IS also demon-ish. Can't wait to find out in season 3----although, I'm still leaning strongly to prachett-ian witches who see what's there and have stronger wills than most people

[@lulu480]

@@Sendaryaomg… that makes perfect sense. She has puzzled me since she entered the picture. Each time I read a theory here, I think “on, that makes sense” and then someone comes up with another on. But being the ‘hand of providence’ kind of covers all of it. I am so curious how that will play out in season 3.

[@Tropicale99]

Just for fun, let’s play devil’s advocate and look at a sinister side of Maggie. She works in a shop that doesn’t sell records next to a shop that doesn’t sell books. She dresses and speaks as a person of another time. Has she have been keeping an eye on Aziraphale and Crowley since the 1940s when they were misbehaving? Maybe it’s a coordinated effort with Metatron. He left the shop with Azi and she and Nina rushed in to have the talk. Who is she working for? Maggie did not arrive on time with the others at 6:30 to the meeting/ball. Instead she waited until “nightfall” which was demon meeting time. She left her shop and started swinging her bag for them to follow her. She then made strange faces (a signal?) and they ran after her, only to be stopped by Crowley. Her behavior during and after the attack was questionable, and then she fell asleep on her counter like a demon. Was she there to help Azi or just cause a little trouble? Thank you to Sendarya for another great video! I always look forward to the next one. It’s fun to find clues and listen to everyone’s theories.

[@absolutely_notttt]

this is very interesting!! although I do want to say that the whole not arriving on time to the ball thing was most likely just her closing up shop, as she clearly shows concern for people stealing records etc. when her and nina get locked in. otherwise, this is a very fun take!!

[@gayehunter-gornall9628]

The berries are cherries, and the flowers are cherry blossoms, very common images in old school tattooing and in Rockabilly tattoos and fashions. Maggie dresses in Rockabilly style throughout the show. Shallows are also an integral design in old school style tattooing. I have loads of tops that feature these designs. In Japanese culture cherry blossoms symbolize both life and death, beauty and violence. As the coming of spring promises new life, so the blooming of cherry blossoms brings a sense of vitality and vibrancy. At the same time, their short lifespan is a reminder that life is fleeting. The shallows are a symbol of good luck, fidelity in marriage, and fertility. My personal feeling is that there is no real significance to the designs on Maggie's clothes, they are pretty tankard Rockabilly designs and fashions.

[@doobat708]

Yes, that's what I was going to say, too!

[@geetha92533]

Yeah, I agree. Also the satin blouse and her hairstyles, rockabilly. . Make sense since she’s into records.

[@FallacyBites]

Huh. Perhaps the rockabilly style is in reference to buddy Holly Maybe it's symbolism in that through Maggie's actions, behavior/events get closer to happening---like letting in the demons encouraged crowley to blow his halo, which is usually considered a declaration of war

[@Tziguene]

i see dogwoods

[@BytheBentley]

Nina also calls Maggie "Angel" during the conversation with Crowley. A clue?

[@Sendarya]

Yes, another parallel I forgot to mention! And she might be something divine like that.

[@clarestubbs9303]

I am wondering with her divine protection if she is an Angel in disguise, like Muriel (but with more knowledge of Earth and humanity) I am currently reading a fic on AO3 where she is a direct descendant of Jesus!

[@sophitsa79]

I think they're going to represent the People in the upcoming war in season 3. All the characteristics that define Maggie, Nina, Crowley and Aziraphale will be the values that the people have up against angels and demons.

[@call_Arapy]

​@@clarestubbs9303can you pls pass the fic link

[@MargaretAEdwards]

I'm sure she says do not help the angel.

[@user-vp2ng5wv7y]

personally I think Maggie's spelling mistake was meant to be a hint that she is a representation of Crowley and not Azirphale. obviously they're meant to throw the audience off by their visual connections (Maggie = Aziraphale, Nina = Crowley) but I would argue its actually the opposite of what is 'obvious'. Maggie = Crowley because they want the other who is in an abusive relationship, doesn't prioritise the other, can be a little selfish and the pining as well. And I think Aziraphale = Nina which leads into more clues for what could happen in their relationship for season three.

[@AlmightyRawks]

I actually think that Maggie mirrors Crowley slightly more (and Nina mirrors Aziraphale). Reasoning: Maggie's not overly occupied with her work, it's more about the vibe than the performance of it. She even sleeps in the shop (an activity that is only attributed to Crowley). She's the one who steps forward to protect Nina (and Aziraphale) against the demons. Her clothes are more flattering to her shape, and she wears bright red colors including lipstick, to be seen. Nina being Aziraphale's mirror is more in her being stuck in abusive relationship that she herself doesn't feel empowerd to leave, instead continuing to be performative in it. She's quite meticulous in her work, and doesn't always seem overly friendly to customers, although can be when it's needed. She dresses more in what she feels embodies her spirit, and her hair and face without make-up have a more timeless quality. This would make the spelling mistake a hint that Maggie mirrors Crowley, imHo. I absolutely love the way you described her as a driving force throughout S2 and I think it's spot-on. Granted, Maggie speaks more like Aziraphale (gentle, supportive) and Nina speaks more like Crowley (direct, quick-witted).

[@Miriam-eb2iu]

😯🤯👏

[@Sendarya]

I actually think you're correct. I didn't initially intend to talk about the parallels at all, so that part was extremely unfinished. My mistake. Something I felt deserves it's own entire video.

[@JessicaTPeterson]

@@Sendarya I love how you bring about all these fascinating discussions!

[@WyzgalBert]

Who will Crowley turn to while Azi is away? Who will ge talk to, where will he be? Will he stay in the bookshop? Visit the girls? See the girls as the reflections they are? Neil has set all of this up beautifully.

[@ashleym9041]

YES! I had the exact same thought re the parallels. Also in season 1 how Anathema also parallels Aziraphale with the familial obligation/mission or even Sgt. Shadwell. Pulsifer being a bad computer engineer/ Crowley being a bad demon etc etc.

[@jolie7228]

I’ve been writing a fanfic where Maggie is one of the main POVs, and I kept feeling like I was missing something… little did I know that the thing I was missing was her mason/hereditary-Aziraphale-spy background 😂

[@Sendarya]

Enjoy that! I'd love to read your fic. Secret Mason spy Maggie sounds interesting as hell to read!

[@IberianGeek]

Interesting to read!

Tinfoil hat fun theory : what if Maggie is the product of a miracle, performed in the 40s by Aziraphale to help her great-grandmother to have a baby ? I know she's only very similar to him for the purpose of her relationship to Nina to be a parallel to his and Crowley's, but I still find it fun to imagine it's because she's kind of his descendant in a twisted miraculous way :D

[@WyzgalBert]

When we first meet Maggie, I wondered if Azi had a relationship with her great grandmother. Not romantic, but a dear friend who he would gladly perform a miracle for, and at some point Azi helped her, or her family, to concieve. Zhe seems heaven-sent.

[@IberianGeek]

Interesting theory.

[@IberianGeek]

@@WyzgalBertInteresting theory.

[@Miriam-eb2iu]

Short side note, I am sure an analytical video is in the works about Nina...... Has anyone else noticed that Nina was spellresistant first! Actually from the beginning! She right away noticed everything being odd in the bookshop , when the meeting is supposed to happend.....she even remarks out loud that she must be going crazy because everything is so odd and all the other guests are behaving extremely strange..... Nina is the one during the dance with Maggie that snaps Maggie out of the spellstate! Because before that Maggie thinks and is convinced that it is normal and totally fine, them dancing right now, instead of sitting on chairs and discussing Christmas lights and signage in shop windows!😮

[@Sendarya]

I actually haven't got a video planned on Nina alone, then you for the idea!

[@FallacyBites]

​@@SendaryaaHAH! so Nina is the pratchett witch, Maggie is something else

[@Miriam-eb2iu]

@ctwofirst6635 * vote given* 😊 That sounds like it could get very interesting. 🤗

[@marinruelas9713]

I love the idea that Maggie is a symbol for the eye/hand of providence.

[@carolinegodfrey1156]

*me raising my hand saying “Ooh Ooh Professor!* My Dad was a lifelong Mason, and when I was a teen he asked if we wanted to join the women’s/family auxiliary. It was called Job’s Daughters. But I don’t know if that’s a thing internationally, or just his local lodge. Love your analyses and videos. I hope you look into Gabriel’s statue. It occurred to me that the sculptor must somehow have seen the real Gabriel to make it so accurate.

[@Sendarya]

Fascinating, did you join? Love the name, that's so interesting. While researching it seems the different lodges all use different names, though.

[@jenb7756]

Jobs Daughters is an international organization. I was a "Jobie" in high school

[@m.w.5972]

OH MY GOD. What if Maggie's family is a very, very long line of descendants of actual Job's children? Maybe the daughter who so quickly recognized Crowley as a demon? They were acquainted with the concept of angels and demons so well. What if they all have in fact followed Aziraphale and by extent Crowley?

[@janmccoy52]

Interesting. Especially since ty is actually David's son and Peter's grandson. Ennon, Son of Job will need to figure in if the daughters have somehow descended as well.

[@IberianGeek]

@@m.w.5972Maybe!

[@Allegro11Maestoso]

66, 666...I remember reading that Gaiman and Pratchett joked about giving the sequel the title "668: The neighbour of the Beast". Englightening analysis as usual, Sendarya. What would we do without your food for thought!

[@Tropicale99]

The show really emphasizes Maggie’s note. Aside from urgrency the word “matter”looks odd. Maggie has very distinctive handwriting, in the note and also on the Goat gate label on the “Everyday” 45. (it’s Everyday on both sides, Peggy Sue got canceled). She has an unusual letter “r” and it’s not at the end of matter. Both “urgrency” and Surrender the “angle” are letter transpositions. There is more in this note for someone to find. Surrender Dorothy!

[@fancyfans8609]

It's clear to me that the icons on Maggies cardigans are iconic rockabilly things. Magpies and cherries (and cherry blossoms!) And the girls with the music notes are verry retro rockabilly as well. All in line with her retro music persona.

[@deborahdawkins4394]

Both suppositions about the flowers, roses or cherry blossoms, have served as symbols of the Virgin Mary. ("I wasn't that sort of teen."). And when I first saw the heart necklace, I thought of the 'Sacred Heart'. Then when you spoke of Maggie being the eyes and hands of the Divinity, the phrase "handmaiden of God" popped into my mind. Mary united man and God bridging the separation between Heaven and Earth.

[@brasschick4214]

Metatron was human in some texts- Enoch… bridging the divine and human.

[@Miriam-eb2iu]

What struck me was ....that Maggie notices right away what she had done, and what that means. A human with no previous magical knowledge and magicalruleknowledge!? 🤔

[@Temptation666]

She did it on purpose. At least that is what i believe

[@Miriam-eb2iu]

@@Temptation666 oh ok. And why do you think so? Letting them in is a bigger threat!

[@Temptation666]

@@Miriam-eb2iu They needed to get in to get the war "started" The angels down and demons up

[@Miriam-eb2iu]

@Temptation666 oh, you mean for the writers plot to continue on......

[@Temptation666]

@@Miriam-eb2iu No but also ... yes

[@LalTheBard]

I believe the flowers on the cardigan can be cherry blossoms (the fruit variety, with white petals)…that would make the berries cherries I think. Not a botanist but I come from a village in Italy famous for cherries 😂 we have a whole festival dedicated to them

[@danielabell2690]

Yes I like this - the berries look like nothing more than cherries & extrapolating from there to cherry blossoms makes the most sense

[@tiktokcompilation1568]

Scusa, se non è un problema posso chiederti di dove sei? Non conosco nessun festival delle ciliege ma sembra molto figo, ciaoo - una toscana

[@LalTheBard]

@@tiktokcompilation1568 un paesino vicino Modena che si chiama Vignola… la chiamiamo Festa della Fioritura, non è niente di che eh, ma è uno degli “eventi” del luogo, c’è una parata con i carri, un mercatino eccetera 😄 non vivo più lì da molti anni quindi non so se la festa della fioritura ci sia ancora, ma era un grande evento durante la mia infanzia

[@tiktokcompilation1568]

@@LalTheBard sembra super carino, grazie:)) e poi è sempre bello ricordarsi che ci sono fan di good omens italiani ahah

[@bluefox5331]

My personal theory with Maggie misspelling urgency is that it was a failed attempt to break up the possible dyslexia = demon lol. Failed because instead of accepting it as it is people are now speculating that Maggie is a demon because she misspelled a word once ^^'

[@aAureliusSsSS]

The amazing community you've built around Good Omens makes me so happy Your videos are truly one of a kind and put what people's tumblr posts say into shorter form content you can listen to and ponder about Truly one of my favourite things to do when a new analysis comes out and I'll look forward to theorising more in the future, hopefully raising a few good points on the discord server too

[@rubiks-a-doodle6400]

YOU ARE SO CORRECT

[@aAureliusSsSS]

@@rubiks-a-doodle6400 THATS WHAT I'M SAYIN

[@arkansaninva]

There's a wonderful book called Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal by Christopher Moore. It follows Jesus (in the book, referred to as Joshua) through his childhood to his death and is told by his friend Biff. A very important character in this book is Mary Magdalene, who they call Maggie. I've always had a little tickle in my brain (but not a fully formed theory) that Maggie could somehow be an incarnation of Mary Magdalene, and next season may be the new Virgin Mary. She says weird things to Nina, like "no judgment" when Nina drinks alcohol, and says that she wasn't "that kind of teenager," almost like she was a teenager in a different time. I dunno, seems like it would fit with the Masons and the toucan, and how it was her "great grandmother" who owned the shop that Aziraphale's "grandfather" rented to her. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it's been Maggie the whole time and Aziraphale never noticed (see the Shadwell arc in season 1). Anyway, sorry for rambling! Great video as always!

[@Sendarya]

Where is that giant eyeballs emoji when I need it? lol What a super interesting theory! That would explain Neil's "I always meant to get around to renaming them but never managed." It fits pretty well! It's a theory I've never heard before, thank you for sharing!

[@LalTheBard]

One of my favourite novels of all time, and I hadn’t made the connection at all 🤩 great theory!

[@fairywingsonroses]

This is an interesting and cool theory. If you read other accounts outside of the Bible, Mary Magdalene is such a huge part of Christ's life. She's more than just a prostitute who became a good friend. Some accounts claim she was one of his most trusted deciples, possibly even his wife. This could give Maggie a direct connection to Christ through a bloodline if you can assume that they produced any children, similar to the narrative of Dan Brown's "The DaVinci Code," in which the last surviving descendent of Christ is the key to everything. Seeing as how the second coming is supposedly going to be a huge event in season 3, it would give Maggie quite a direct connection to how that all goes down, even if she isn't aware of it yet. It would also help connect her to the Masons assuming that she had a family connection to Christ. That seems like it would be a pretty reasonable exception to grant a woman entry into a men's only club.

[@carolegreenall1919]

I've read a fanfiction story in which Maggie is a descendant of the union of Jesus and Mary Magdalene (Dan Brown's Holy Grail) and Azi lets her stay in the shop to keep guard over her......

[@FallacyBites]

Biff, by Christopher Moore, is a FANTASTIC book. I heartily recommend it.

[@loislane7482]

One other slightly odd thing about Maggie is that we never see her actually eat or drink anything, depsite seeing her order multiple hot drinks from Nina. She turns down the offer of an alcoholic drink and when Nina says she must have got drunk as a teenager she just says she 'wasn't that kind of teenager'. Might be nothing but it's another way she mirrors some of the behaviour of typical angels and demons.

[@marial870]

Your videos keep me sane, comfortable in the knowledge that there are others who can't stop thinking about this amazing series for even a day at a time. 😇😈💘

[@iuliiadolgova9304]

You are not alone in this 🤗

[@JoMadge]

The jacket decoration is also very similar to popular sailor tattoo designs. Swallows represent 5000 miles travel in a sailor's career. No idea how, or even if that relates to Maggie, but kind of a cool detail.

[@geetha92533]

I think that sailor tattoo design also relates to rockabilly styling.

[@lisa_wistfulone7957]

Sorry I’m soooo late to the discussion! I have a thought about the swallows and a 5,000 mile journey (though it might not be a new thought in the community, I’m so far behind!). What if the journey is actually 5,000 *Years* ? The comment below this one is looking at the possibility of Maggie actually being God herself, somehow stuck here in human form, and how it explains her lack of communication for so long. To my mind, it could also explain how heaven is so cold and callous- maybe she’s not actually able to (or chooses not to) supervise the angels directly, so it’s all run amok under a Metatron dictatorship? I’m not sure how long ago her last known communication (with Job) was, but maybe 5,000 years is in the ballpark(?). It would also explain how sometimes she seems parallel to Crowley, sometimes to Aziraphale. They are a yinyang to balance/complete each other, but God herself encompasses all.

[@compubijou]

As Muriel said, "That was an error, which proves that I'm human." Maggie made a spelling mistake, she's not perfect, she's human. Definitely part of the ineffable though.

[@butterflymuse2707]

Neil actually answered an ask on tumblr re: 6, 6, 6 episodes, that S3 will be 6 episodes as well on purpose. :)

[@joyfulgirl40018]

You talk about how Maggie is an analogue to Aziraphale, but somebody once mentioned on another comment thread that, although Maggie aligns with Aziraphale and Nina with Crowley for the reasons you and they themselves mention, if you look a little closer, Maggie is more like Crowley in that she's more passionate and open to her emotions, more willing to take risks and communicate what she's feeling. Nina, on the other hand, is more closed off and restrained, unwilling to admit she might feel anything for Maggie because she's caught in an abusive relationship that she hasn't gotten up the strength to leave. I just wanted to share that, I thought it was a super interesting observation!

[@angelamalicoate2798]

Have you seen the new “lip reading” theory of Aziraphale mouthing “we need to get out” when he first stops Crowley in the final 15? I’m not sure how I feel about that one. That being said I think Maggie and Nina, but especially Maggie are very important and I hope we see more of them in s3!

[@Sendarya]

No, I haven't. I'll have to look at that. I agree, I think they are more important than they seem, especially Maggie!

[@clarestubbs9303]

Do you have a link for that please? Not seen that one! 🤔🤔

[@maizie9454]

I really hope we all dont have to be lip readers to understand the plot

[@isabelpineiroalfaro7915]

Yes that's right!!! 😮 I just watched it, and it's true, but I can't figure out exactly what words were said by Azi, what I'm sure is that he is saying please while Crowley starts talking and of course he is too into what he is trying to say that he doesn't notice Azi. And that is why Azi moves his hands trying to stop him 😮😆 Oh Amazing!!! Thank you, I truly love this chat 😍

[@isabelpineiroalfaro7915]

​@@clarestubbs9303 Is in the Minute 40:50 episode 6

[@grannypeacock]

This morning while watching the beginning of episode 6 Crowley refers to Muriel as a record keeper and I thought, "Maggie is a record keeper, too."

[@Sendarya]

Ha, wow, you are right! Great play on words that might also actually mean something. Her memories of Aziraphale and Crowley might be important later?

[@themontu7066]

They’re cherry blossoms (aka “sakura” in Japan, where they have the most historical meaning), and the berries are cherries. The design on Maggie’s sweater is the classical depiction of cherry blossoms in Japan, and they are most often associated with renewal, the fleeting nature of life, rebirth and new beginnings. The swallow design is also in a very classic Sailor Jerry tattoo design style.

[@Dragoness112]

Your video just sparked a new thought for me. Maybe Beelzebub is the red herring in the bartender's "throw away" line, and it's really Maggie. The bartender knows her, he buys his records from her and sends her the changed ones. He is also very aware of the Mason symbolism with the temple next door. He would have seen Maggie's jewelry and may have noticed the eye. It would be a clever way to throw in a red herring. We all assume Beelzebub due to the sash, but maybe Gabriel is also meeting Maggie either before or after for other business. We do have a second coming, and Gabriel told the last "virgin" about the big news. It would allow Neil to keep using these new characters/actresses into season 3. Makes sense to give us some background instead of just throwing new really important side characters at us. Or maybe I've slide into my own tinfoil hat territory finally.

[@Sendarya]

That's acutely a very interesting idea that I hasn't considered. Gabriel had been to earth numerous times. We do know that Gabe started the whole record thing that day he was there with Beelzabub, though. Hmmm. I'll have to think about it, thanks for the interesting idea!

[@Tropicale99]

That’s a great idea, it really works well and seems much more of a Gaimen like twist, rather than a sweet, Godly, Maggie.

[@Tropicale99]

It’s Maggie’s handwriting with the pub address on the 45 record, so she is familiar with the location. I looked back to see if she showed any sign of recognition of Gabriel from a previous encounter but didn’t spot any. Did you see any sign of a connection?

[@shannonannagins]

I'm pretty sure the flowers on Maggie's sweater are meant to symbolize the White Rose of York, a heraldic symbol from the Wars of the Roses. It's also associated with the Virgin Mary. I did a little rabbit hole dive about the symbolism of heraldic symbols recently for some research on the Rider Waite Tarot deck, and you'll see these same flowers depicted on Death's banner, only inverted.

[@Sendarya]

Hmm, ok, I'm doing tarot now, so I may be able to bring this up at that time, thank you! Do you mind if I mention this in the next video? It's a great connection!

[@shannonannagins]

@@Sendarya Don't mind at all! Thanks for asking. Isn't it fun to use your analytic training to research stuff you actually like?!

[@aisleelovegreenwood6448]

It would be crazy if Maggie were to either turn out to be God Herself: keeping a direct eye on the boys and trying to subtly influence them, or if she's simply a knowing agent of God Herself. To the former, while I think it's unlikely, it would be a bit like how The Metatron showed up and the other angels initially dismissed/didn't even recognize him: believing him to be a human, because they never expected _him_ of all beings to be there, in physical form. Also, you mentioned the birds sometimes being a symbol of a god who's been reborn, which might play into the theories about something having happened to Her as an explanation for her radio-silence as of late, though, again, I don't inherently follow those either. I think whatever's happening, She knows what She's doing, and She planned every bit of it from the start. She wants Aziraphale and Crowley to come together and lead _everyone_ into a new era: angels, demons and humans alike. I dare say I even believe She wanted her children to one day surpass Her, though that might still be a _long_ time to come.

[@moondivine2288]

I’m not sure if that would happen as God has an American accent and Maggie having a British one. It all comes down to their actress. Inverse it would also explain why Gabriel has an American accent as he is supposed to be God’s messenger.

[@metachoices]

Both Aziraphale and Crowley seemed a little jealous when She spoke to Job. She speaks to a human but not to them? I feel like Crowley is angry with the other angels and Metatron but not with Her. It makes sense for Her to wish for a reconciliation among her children.

[@lisa_wistfulone7957]

Hi! Sorry I’m so late contributing to an older discussion- I’m catching up! But I’ve been wondering about Maggie possibly being God herself too. Other than it seeming improbable (and that doesn’t necessarily stop Neil), it would explain a lot. Her knowledge, her parallels to both Crowley and Aziraphale (they balance each other in a yin yang, but She contains both). And I have a thought about the bird metaphor, inspired by another comment posted here. JoMadge, in the comment above yours, mentions that swallows are a symbol of a 5,000 mile journey. What if God has been on earth for 5,000 *years* ? It could be why heaven has run amok under Metatron and become callous and rigid, and why no one has heard her voice since Job (was that about 5,000 years ago?). Maybe her “great-grandmother” was her, just like it’s always been Aziraphale owning the bookshop. Just the thoughts of a newcomer excited to join this community, please let me know if I’m way off.

[@aisleelovegreenwood6448]

@@lisa_wistfulone7957 Great detail! It's been just over 4,500 years since Job, so while a little short of 5,000, it's still close enough that the symbolism holds up!❤

[@Teaniinja]

Maybe the double 6 is Aziraphale is 1 step away frim falling. Or its part of Goat gate leading to the 2 goats in the scapegoat legend.

[@shaynaformity1384]

I'd love to hear your thoughts on Seraqael. She seems to be in charge of memory. No wonder she recognized Crowley and the Metatron! I'm curious that Seraqael saw Crowley in Heaven, but instead of sounding an alarm or telling him to leave, she told Muriel to show him the trial. What's up with that? Is she going to be an ally for Aziraphale as well? There have also been other instances of angels in Heaven communicating with demons in Hell (Michael with Beel?). Maybe enough for a whole video about it? I also had a thought about characters not recognizing the Metatron - the Metatron is the voice of God, so maybe it was a commentary that people recognize God's speech when it's dramatic, but not so much when dressed up in ordinary clothes. Just a thought. The Metatron is obviously quite sinister, not sure that he actually is the voice of Herself.

[@Sendarya]

Excellent points! If you can find me a close up of her ring, I'd own you. I can sort of see it in some shots, but I really want to get a good look. She wears hers on a different finger than the other angels as well. And wears the same violet and teal plaid as Aziraphale. Lots of clues for Saraqael! I love her as a new character.

[@shaynaformity1384]

@@Sendarya a muse of fyre on tumblr has a close-up of Seraqael's hand in a post called that ring that Aziraphale wears on his pinkie. You might be able to get better resolution on your device than I can get on mine. On a reddit thread about Azi's ring, someone said they got a better image by "I used the chromecast feature and projected onto my tv." I don't know what that means, but maybe it means something to you?

[@danielabell2690]

Ok so the immediate flower I thought of that has five notched petals like that is White Campion (Silene latifolia) - it's a European wildflower. It does not have sepals quite like that (I think the green things are sepals- botanically speaking, modified leaves that make up the flower's calyx). Instead of separate sepals, White Campion has a fused tubular structure that is kind of inflated. Hard to depict in a two-dimensional graphic. (As a side note- White Campion is a dioecious species- individuals are either stamen-bearing with pollen produced ('males') or stigma-bearing ('females') and produce seeds. White campion is a common wildflower in England and in Elizabethan England were apparently mixed with sugar & wine as a soothing the heart remedy. A quick google search revealed that White Campion is sometimes known as 'Grave Flower' or 'Flower of the Dead' (because often grows in graveyards/around tombstones) ... dunno if any of this makes sense in light of your other analyses as I haven't finished the video yet. Just wanted to respond with a botanical note! (And -- I should say, I'm biased because I studied White Campion as a post-doctoral fellow)

[@Sendarya]

Interesting! It does have a deeply notched petals, but not the sepals. Just a very quick and dirty google brings up a number of sites that all say it "opens the heart to spiritual guidance", and the grave flower is some extra interesting symbolism, but that fits the divinely guided idea. It's a good candidate! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise.

[@Ksunshine57]

So glad I found this post, I've been trying to find out what the flowers were that were growing in a ruined chapel in Leven, Earlsferry, Scotland. They covered the floor like a carpet. I was mesmerised. I was on the verge of trying to contact a Google contributor to see if they could send me a picture to identify them. I suspect they were White Campion. I'll go back one day to see if I can find out.

[@Ksunshine57]

I can't edit this so I've replied. The flowers I saw were very low to the ground like daisies.

[@tammykoehler3541]

I have always wondered about the look back at Maggie and Nina that Crowley does before he gets in the Bentley to leave at the end. It is very intentional.

[@lyrismoon]

Those flowers are cherry blossoms. I would know them anywhere. Also, the berries look like cherries, as they are frequently used in retro decor

[@Miriam-eb2iu]

Season 2 part 6. At the moment Maggie was insulted by Shax saying she was unlovable and all that....Maggie smiles and looks at Nina and then you can hear a noise...like whoosh but not like the miracle whoosh Crowley and Aziraphale have when they do magic...but a different one with a deeper tone...but I can hear it clearly! What is happening? Is maggie doing that!?

[@Sendarya]

I hadn't noticed, I will go and take a listen! (I did notice the look, but hadn't connected it to anything). Always worth a look/listen!

[@Cutiemuffinz]

Maggie’s last pose looks to me like a resting angel on a gravestone. Just a thought that gave me pause…

[@Sendarya]

Awww, she does!

[@janmccoy52]

Don't blunk. Don't blink. Blink and youre dead. ​@@Sendarya

[@Miriam-eb2iu]

Once on the topic of maggie,and I was surprised that it wasn't put into the video/analysis. It confused me quiet alot. When Aziraphale was in the record shop again talking to Maggie( I think the second time). He hears the heavenly trumpets! And he knows exactly what they are, because he looks a little shocked. He stops, listens and says then to Maggie " can't you hear it?" Why? Why did he say that to maggie, who is presumably (at that point) a normal human, and ofcourse can't hear anything heavenly like that. So again...why did Aziraphale ask her that then? 😮🤯

[@BytheBentley]

A question I have had since I first saw the episode. Nina calls her "Angel" and Aziraphale thinks she can hear the herald....my theory is she is a cherub which is a low order of angel and perhaps being of the same stock as demons, could be an angel. Angels seem to have a problem recognizing each other....

[@JessicaTPeterson]

@@BytheBentley That made me think of Hebrews 13:2, "Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares." Though I presume this is directed at humans, not at angels themselves.

[@lulu480]

I have rewatched some of these videos and reread the comments. My auditory memory is crap and gets worse as I get older. But I just want to say that it’s quite refreshing to hear and read a discussion that actually challenges one’s intellect. No arguing, no name calling, just discussion. I do love this community.

[@alisonponce8337]

I do agree there is something more to Maggie and also Nina. They both notice Crowley and Aziraphale more than other people do. When the Crowley calls down lightening, only they seem to see it. The other people on the street seem oblivious.

[@Sendarya]

Excellent observation!! I hadn't realized any the lightening, great point#!

[@aqune9578]

before i properly watched good omens i had watched a lot of compilations of different clips, and from them i assumed maggie and nina were an angel and demon couple who were trying to help crowley's and aziraphale's relationship. when nina said "people's love lives are so much more difficult than our own" or something like that to crowley i assumed she was talking about an angel and demon being together 😭 with my very limited knowledge i assumed the scene where they talk to crowley was them trying to help him because they had also gone through the conflict of an angel and demon loving each other, especially because nina calls maggie an angel. i find it funny that i read it like that when i knew basically nothing abt the plot of s2, especially because there actually IS quite a bit that suggests she might be an otherworldly being

[@gutenudel]

i love your videos! i love learning little real life facts that tie into to show, and your analysis is always so interesting :D Thank you keep it up!

[@hotlavatube]

I wonder what made Crowley's lightning strike the coffee shop at all. Are demons superconductors causing it to target Maggie, only to get stopped by metal in the shop front?

[@mackea1]

The flowers on Maggie's cardigan look like a traditional Sakura blossom 🌸 Interesting

[@Kirachan3]

Love your videos, thank you for making them :) . A couple of small things, Beelzebub goes by "they" not "she". And Neil Gaimen said that he always wanted 6 episodes for season 2 (and 3) but that they were supposed to be longer in length.

[@Sendarya]

Ah ty, someI forget with Bee.

[@rebeccamoll8779]

Ive always thought that Maggie and Nina may be the two witness that appear in the bible before the second coming.

[@graziacavasino8884]

The sky-blue things next to the flowers are parts of a ribbon.

[@netherfield2000]

I thought Beelzebob was dressed as Mary Poppins. At least its better than the silly fly hat from Season 1.

[@BirdsOnPowerLines]

Sendarya. We enjoyed this very much! So fun to consider all these possibilities.

[@barbarabenoit3667]

I am so curious about the tarot-cards symbolism. But I can wait. Take all the time you need to make the video you want it to be. Your analysis of Maggie is wonderful, specially the clothes and the jewellery. Thank you!

[@mergimergimergi]

I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS THANK YOU FOR MAKING THEM

[@RainbowSprnklz]

random hypotheses i dont have the energy to investigate and may just be complete piffle: 1. Maggie as Mary: Maggie wears a lot of blue which is the color most associated with the virgin mary. If the second coming comes in the form of a baby, maybe she’ll be motherly in some form of another. Also interesting because the actress’ other character helped ‘deliver’ the antichrist as a nun. No idea if this hypothesis goes anywhere 2. Maggie as an incarnation of the holy spirit: perhaps this would be an in universe explanation of what youve described in the video. Also if the holy spirit plays into it then it may also support the mary hypothesis (holy spirit made it so mary was born with out original sin or something like that). Once again no idea if this has any basis The little research i did do made me realize i really dont understand the theology of the second coming like i thought Edit: if those flowers are lilies or white periwinkles or hell even a columbine that thats more to the mary hypothesis (there are a lot of flowers associated with mary) Edit 2: oh god someone please analyze maggie for mary symbolism

[@Sendarya]

I can add that specifically to my list! It's an interesting hypothesis.

[@taniahalley5523]

​​@@SendaryaHi, sorry if my hypothesis is dumb but seeing everyone focusing so much on Maggie I can’t help but wonder... if Maggie is such a big character like the Holy Spirit or Virgin Mary, would that make Nina possibly be... God Herself ? Ok, with her mind erased by Heaven (Or by herself, or the metatron, or Gabriel, or any other angel) or something like that, but I’m getting the feeling there must be more than that about Nina too (lets say even just for balance ;) ), and if God had her memory ”kind of missing” it would actually make a lot of sense that 1heaven is going nuts, and 2Nina would be actracted by well, everything sacred about Maggie for example... Maybe that’s just me though, that serie is getting me crazy 😂 ! Anyways (and even if I end up being awfully wrong) I wish you all a great day and an amazing week-end 😊 ! Edit : I also imagine Neil Gaiman giving us hints about Maggie just so we won’t figure out anything about Nina... Wouldn’t it be at least very funny 😅 ?

[@caloffee]

only a minute or so into the video but my take on maggie's misspelling is that she actually sent aziraphale a text or email, but since aziraphale can't handle modern technology for the life of him, whatever belief or miracle is in place around that silly guy made it so he recieved a little note instead 😂 note that most of the 'magic' in GO is based around belief/imagination. but this could definitely weave into the general mystery surrounding her!

[@Sendarya]

Interesting idea! I had not heard that one before. Thank you for sharing 😁

[@ZophieZakai]

What I've been wondering for a while is, which angel replaced Aziraphale? A replacement was sent for Crowley. And Maggie keeps popping up in my thoughts as I reflect on this.

[@isabelpineiroalfaro7915]

Amazing!!! Thank you, I was wondering if everything that was happening was part of God's ineffable plan. Thank you for the clarity, for the work done by you and that of the person who collaborates with you in the research of information, I loved it. And thank you again for the time you used to clarify this enormous doubt that we had, thank you ❤❤❤❤❤

[@victoriar4637]

Wow what an interesting subject!!😮😊🤩🤓 I didn't think of Maggie as a catalyst or what symbolism was in her costume etc! Absolutely amazing work, many thanks to you and your fantastic detective friends ☺️ I really look forward to your videos, including the tarot one, it sounds brilliant!! 💖🌈🌟

[@Rhi_k]

Fab analysis as always, you've definitely answered some burning questions I had, I hadn't even realised she might be significant until Nina said "you're not helping angel" on my 3rd rewatch. Amazing work as always 😊

[@Sendarya]

This show rewards re-watching!

[@Rhi_k]

@@Sendarya rewarching amazing TV is my natural state 😊 I'm currently dividing my spare time between GO and Our Flag Means Death.

[@marzettik]

I love Maggie! She's sweet and quirky. I knew the moment we met her, it was on purpose. When she misspelled the word on the note, I thought, "oh, that's very demon of you". And when Nina called her "angel", I though could this be ironic? But at the same time, the angels from heaven identify them as "humans." Which got me thinking, why do they measure a miracle and has a miracle ever covered up another being before? Could Maggie's true identity be covered up on purpose by a miracle? I would definitely be interested to have the scale explained.

[@ericamacs3875]

I am sure they'd recognise them otherwise. They'd have to be very well disguised, especially as the other angels knew they were human.

[@marzettik]

@@ericamacs3875 Not necessarily. I mean the angel’s didn’t recognize the Metatron. And we also know that something happened to Crowley’s memory when he fell.

[@ericamacs3875]

@@marzettik They can sense other angels and demons though. I don't mean recognise because they've met them. The metatron is weird, they all know him, and have met him before. We saw Aziraphale talk to him in season 1.. so I do think that scene is just weird..

[@m0thernature730]

3:35 I’m no expert but the way the flowers are tipped immediately made me think of dogwood, for those not familiar it’s a flower with 4 petals but it’s very important to Christianity because the edges of the flowers look like they had nails stabbed through them, this tree also produces red Barrie’s that stem like the barriers on the jacket as well the only problem is the petal difference. Another good flower to look into could be the three leafed Anemone, they have 5 petals are white and have edges like that.

[@Sendarya]

Thank you! I'll put that on the possible flower list

[@janecraft-9068]

The photo of a flower is an aquilegia or grannies bonnets

[@barbarabenoit3667]

Thank you. I think aquilegia are also called Columbine. Sendarya shows a picture at 3: 57. I found that these blue Auquilegia are called Aquilegia Nightingale.

[@Sendarya]

I think we can all agree it is, indeed that specific Nightingale version of the Columbine. Even the colors are correct. Perfect find, thank you both!

[@isabelpineiroalfaro7915]

​@@barbarabenoit3667 😮 amazing !!!

[@northshoregirl8173]

Fascinating! At the beginning of the vid I was thinking that maybe Maggie is actually God herself, since no one has spoken to God since Job. Now I think you're probably correct that Maggie is acting on behalf of Providence. Altho, that would take away some of her free will/agency, wouldn't it? Argh! I can't wait for S3!!!

[@JessicaTPeterson]

Hahaha, I love the thought that God would run a record shop, even though I don't think Maggie is God..

[@Sendarya]

Doesn't the very existence of a divine plan already have that issue?

[@northshoregirl8173]

Yes, totally! Here's an idea: God is off creating a multiverse, and the Metatron didn't tell anyone 😡@@Sendarya

[@theonlylunchbox]

Another great video. Now I'm even more curious as to why Crowley stands by the Bentley and waits. I hope it was so he could receive any messages such as Trust Me and at first i thought he was trying to show Aziraphale he could make another choice. Like turn around, you can still choose me and we can be together. Do you think Maggie's spelling mistake is just a distraction? The only thing keeping me from thinking that was that it has to be so purposeful to show the audience that. Some have brought up that is odd for Nina and Maggie to say stop meddling an our lives by the way your relationship is something you should be talking about. Assuming a role of director in the lives of the ineffable couple. I wonder if Crowley would still have said to Aziraphale let's run off together, if he hadn't heard from Nina and maggie, but just not in such an emotional way. I wondered if you would get to Tarot symbolism this week or if it be an issue that there problems with the Amazon Good Omens tarot deck. Thanks for all you do. And looking forward to keeping the conversation going.

[@libber48]

About the Masons, my father was one, and mother in woman's slip Eastern Star, with all the secrecy and symbolism, also both a girls (Rainbow) and boys (?) groups. (I was a Rainbow girl)

[@Sendarya]

Fascinating! Do you think Maggie is one, then? Or her great gran? I'm curious from a perspective of someone more familiar with masonic culture.

[@libber48]

@Sendarya she could have been, but need a male family member Mason to sponsor a woman, so of course my father was a Mason and mom was able to join Eastern Star.

[@maizie9454]

jobs daughter here-hiI! boys were demolays.

[@HuntingViolets]

I kind of figured the misspelling was just because Maggie was crying when she wrote the note. Everything else is spelled correctly. I don't think demons (or angels--we don't know whether non-Scrivener angels are any better at spelling than demons) are incapable of learning how to spell. (Crowley recognizes the misspelling in the note attached to the brick--most demons are not on Earth for such extended periods.) I also know humans are often prone to misspellings and typos even when they know how to spell the words, as their hands try to keep up with their brains. Humans might be able to invite demons into a bookshop, as a bookshop would be a publicly accessible space to them, although it could be questionable whether that access is transferable by them; it wouldn't apply when the bookshop is closed anyway. It's also questionable whether a tenant would have the right to allow someone into their landlord's space because it had _previously_ been a space rented by an ancestor (I think we know they legally couldn't, at least). Interesting video. I'm going to have to watch it again.

[@JessicaTPeterson]

I thought the misspelling was so we could hear Michael Sheen say "ugrency."

[@andreavictoriaparadiso47]

As for the flowers, I immediately thought of dogwood flowers as they are symbol of Christ and the crucifixion as well as hope, rebirth, and purity. Dogwoods flower in spring... Easter time. There's also the imagery in the shirt she wears underneath which speaks of the same things and I think the white flower is a mirror of the ones in the sweater. The scene on this shirt is a perfect Tarot Sun card image. I'm reminded that the Sun Card also represents Friendship. Also, the number 3 is the number of the The Empress which sometimes is tied in to The Virgin which could lead to Maggie having ties with nuns. And the ring she wears as well, for nuns wear rings to symbolize their marriage to Christ. Obviously she's not a nun now but maybe her great grandmother left the order. Intriguing, isn't it! Thank you for all these wonderful analysis. I'm a relative newbie to this fandom and trying to catch up with all the info. You're videos are wonderful!

[@sanzoskitten]

Gaiman has already spoken on why the miracle didn't work on Nina and Maggie, Aziraphale didn't have the spoons.

[@Sendarya]

Yes thank you, I do cover that in the video! :)

[@Miriam-eb2iu]

Spoons?

[@FallacyBites]

​@@Miriam-eb2iuSpoon Theory was a metaphor developed by a woman with lupus to explain how limited her energy for accomplishing tasks was. Each spoon represented a task, and she only had so many spoons available for the day. Even worse, one spoon covered much less for her than her friend. Friend would use one spoon to get up and get ready. The woman with lupus used one spoon to get put of bed, 1 to brush her teeth, 1 to shower, 1 to get dressed---and then have hardly any spoons left for the rest of the day. So she often had to say 'no' to fun things cuz she needed to save her spoons for necessary stuff. Wikipedia has an article on it

[@delfinal7560]

Great video

[@auntiepanpan]

I had to double check this but look at the two flowers on the back of her sweater. I initially thought this was a Tudor rose ( i was wrong regarding that) one is a star pointing up, the other a star shape pointing down. A pentacle and a pentagram. OR the divine masculine and the divine feminine perhaps. Ummm that falls in line with the Masons and the Knights Templar...as well as Christ and the holy grail...the 3rd is about the second coming.... foreshadowing perhaps???

[@Sendarya]

Interesting!! Those flowers are very mysterious, but you may have really spotted something there! I'll take anotherv look. It's something I'd like to come back to, in any case. Great spotting!

[@IberianGeek]

Something curious is Nina and Maggie didn't go crazy when they saw celestials and demons, for them Crowley and Aziraphale are just odd guys. So, or for the humans, the immortals are a common thing, or they have an open mind, or their families were friends of immortals in the Past (like Newt and Anathema, or other humans). But I agree with some theories thta Nina is a demon. However... why Aziraphale or Crowley didn't realise? A hiding miracle? I hope we see Nina and Maggie again, but the human characters didn't come back, so it is possible the actress plays another role. I hope the characters from two first seasons appear, but we will see.

[@Sendarya]

I also hope we'll see Maggie and Nina again next season!

[@Miriam-eb2iu]

Odd, for the thought Maggie could be a demon, because of the misspelling.......if she was, then like said later on she wouldn't be able to invite the demons in, the same that Crowley can't invite them in....🤔 but she is able too, even thought accidentally. 😮

[@shaynaformity1384]

Thank you for this explanation! I've always found Maggie to be rather annoying, I thought she might be a Scrappy character, but now it seems she was actually important, so I'll watch again with a different perspective. Always happy to have another reason to watch Good Omens again!

[@psmith0629]

Thank you for doing this video. I have been wanting someone to talk about her clothing and what is hidden there. Hey she also wears or carries plad in every other episode.

[@Sendarya]

Plaid, more heavenly coding!

[@lulu480]

@@Sendarya what is it that makes plaid heavenly coding. I suppose I could look it up but I’m going to rely on your vast fount of knowledge. 😉

[@Luxinda]

Looking forward to the Tarot video! Just got the GO (both seasons) Tarot deck and it’s gorgeous! Have you seen it?

[@Sendarya]

I have seen it! Every card. Love the art style.

[@Luke_o_lophus]

I can't get over Nina telling Maggie "You're not helping, angel" when they confront Crowley. It's the only time someone casually calls someone angel (other than Crowley ofc). Also...both Maggie and Nina not being fully affected by Aziraphale's miracle during the ball....is something. And...I might be scraping at the bottom here, but...the two of them appear to be much more aware of AziraCrow than they should be. They're giving advice on relationship communication to Crowley, saying 'you never talk!'...but how much do they even know AziraCrow? In episode 1, Nina asks if Crowley also runs a bookshop, so (apparently) not very well.

[@Sendarya]

Excellent points! I really do think there's something more to them, especially Maggie.

[@Thing1meetsThing2]

Maybe Maggie is God herself?

[@Mulan30]

That would explain why her character is kinda course correcting with her behavior or responses! Interesting theory

[@Sentientmatter8]

I had that thought too. If she's God, or some supernatural being, I still want her to truly be in love with Nina. God falling in love with a human would be an interesting twist.

[@Sendarya]

I will tell you all a secret. When I presented the evidence, that's the conclusion my husband came to. Maybe so!

[@artiehartsell]

this was my thought as well, especially as this video progressed

[@moondivine2288]

But Maggie has a British accent and God has an American one. I don’t think that checks out

[@isabelpineiroalfaro7915]

Thanks ❤❤❤❤❤

[@francesneville606]

The missspelling of angle for angel might refer to pope Gregory's comment about turning Angles into angels back in about 600 CE.

[@georgiaroberts9385]

Maggie says that her great-grandmother's shop was in the corner of Mr. Fell's bookshop. No clarification that it was in the corner of what is NOW Mr Fell's book shop. How old would Mr Fell have to be to have known Maggie's great great grandmother? It appears that the shop was passed down in her family. Was she raised in the shop? That's at least a century by my humble math.

[@Sendarya]

Aziraphale is as old as the universe, and the bookshop has been there 350ish years

[@BekaFrankie]

I like to think Aziraphale might choose Maggie as the mother for the second coming. If the Metatro has put him in charge, Aziraphale might choose someone he knew was on his side of things to raise the new 'Christ'. He certainly wouldn't want another cock-up like with the Anti-Christ. It may also make sense why Maggie and Nina have been recast from the Nuns. I also think Maggie wear a lot colours associated with Mary Magedelene.

[@Niaxn]

I'd be interested to see your take on the theory that Crowley was planning to confess after the ball anyways, maybe for a mini monday? the reasoning is mostly how the bentley had their song "queued up", and there are yellow carnations seen in the backseat when crowley first gets into the car, which traditionally symbolize love and friendship. there are some other aspects to this theory as well, I've seen people on Tumblr digging quite deep into is especially. Love your videos!

[@LoveIsLove4711]

If I might add-when Crowley dismisses Muriel from the bookshop, he muses out loud about “us time.” This happened before Nina and Maggie went in to talk to him.

[@Niaxn]

@@LoveIsLove4711 omgggggg I totally missed this! thanks for pointing it out that's great asdjskhg

[@Sendarya]

I can add that to my list!

[@fionaclaffey-kelly3333]

I wonder if at some point in history a demon (or angel) fell in love with a human and Maggie is their desendant... this could relate to her great grandmother and her wedding ring too... and why Aziraphale might have decided to rent to that family and why Maggie doesn’t much question strange or miraculous goings-on...

[@Sendarya]

Maggie certainly is mysterious! Lots of unanswered questions about her.

[@toxicstarbot6701]

I keep thinking "What if Maggie will be the next Mary" but yeah, it depends on which route they're going w Jesus honestly

[@commodoresassy9765]

Something I found interesting as well was some of the record placements on the walls in her shop. They're all made up artists ofc, to avoid any copyright and such, but there are 2 that stood out to me. One was the covers for Rat Keith, which appear often on the walls, and the other was an instance where a cover of The Walking Shambles appears behind Aziraphale in the first scene between them, with it being partially covered, leaving "The Walking Sham". This isn't me theorizing nefarious intentions from Maggie, necessarily, but I thought those were interesting details. On the note of Nina, I think its interesting how her clothes are the only ones that remained the same when she entered the bookshop for the meeting (along with remaining aware of the difference between her personal feelings and the ones the miracle was trying to provoke). Also, there was a miracle noise when Maggie held out her hand to Nina, gesturing to dance (although that's probably just Aziraphale's blanket miracle thing).

[@Sendarya]

Nina's clothes do change, though it's subtler than many others

[@robingayle68]

Did anyone catch that Nina called Maggie angel during the sit down talk with Crowley in s2? I wonder what it means. I'd love to hear theories. It doesn't seem like a term of endearment since the talk was about Nina not being ready for a new relationship and both getting Aziraphel and Crowley to stop meddling with them and start communicating with each other. Any ideas?

[@elimgarak7090]

I had a wild thought that she may unknowingly (or knowingly) be in cahoots with Metatron.

[@ingvillchristensen5108]

I saw your video you made about Maggie not beeing who she is I liked it very much and you asked ehat ouer teories and what we thoughts. I havent thought so much about it but I will gladly tell you what thougts I would like it to be. Maybe maggie could be another angel that found out about the Second coming told good about it and maybe got sendt down to earth to get Crowly an Azaraphel togheter because good knows how powerfull those two are togheter and knows that they are going to need all the help they can for the second coming. I my self liked that theorie but we dont know anything so i am exitet to see what will happen if we get a 3 seson or,Maggie is yest a good hartdet person that good liked and maybe made her one of his earthly messenger nevause of her big hart and great personality.❤❤❤❤❤

[@christinemackenzie7237]

It would be fun if the flower was a Wild Strawberry blossom and the "berries" were strawberries. The reasons I think this is possible are that wild strawberries are very small and more round than the ones we're used to, strawberry blossoms are white with a yellow centre, sometimes the petals get a little dent, and they have the green between the petals. Strawberries have beautiful symbolism from many cultures relating to love, passion, hope, protection, honesty, virtue, and are believed to be a message from God. It can also been thought of as a message that the bad times are only for a short while. You can find many references to strawberries, including in the bible, and they are depicted in art through the centuries. I believe they were even mentioned by Ancient Roman writers. One of the places we see Aziraphale and Crowley interacting. There is so much history around the Strawberry and its symbolism that it can go on for pages!

[@PhantomQueenOne]

The berry are cherries I believe. The flowers may cherry blossoms as well. They can be pink or white. It's not uncommon to see cherry blossoms with swallows in tattoos. The swallows can mean joy, hope, and loyalty. They can also mean protection and guidance. That's why sailors often wear them. One of the main symbolic meanings of cherry blossoms is the transience of life and the fleeting nature of beauty.

[@PhantomQueenOne]

The cherries themselves mean sexuality and fertility.

[@Sendarya]

We did discover the sailor connection, but still couldn't make sense of it on Maggies sweater!

[@PhantomQueenOne]

@@Sendarya Very popular in tattoos, still is. And it was very popular on clothing during the 1950's. I was born in '62, and I would still see it in the 1960's

[@wolkenstrahl]

Thanks again for going into such detail, this time about Maggy's role. From the beginning I too thought something was off with her. One thing though: Freemasonry is not a religion, nor a substitute for religion.

[@Sendarya]

Correct, it is not a religion, which is why i never identify it as such. It's a group of people practicing their beliefs.

[@wolkenstrahl]

@@Sendarya I suppose that nuance got lost. English is not my first language. :)

[@y.s.7805]

I think, the flowers are dianthus, symbolising love and admiration.

[@rebeccahansen1786]

Maggie and Nina were demon nuns in Season 1. Maggie was struck down by whats-his-name, and presumably, Nina was saved from the fire by the mother superior. So what became of them afterward? Could this be why Maggie has "switched sides?" Or has she? What about Nina? Is the coffee shop only there as a ruse to keep an eye on Aziraphale and Crowley?

[@Sendarya]

They aren't the same characters. They're the same actresses cast in different roles. Just like Shax isn’t Madam tracy, and Fufur, presumably, isn’t Shakespear:(

[@AeSunfyre]

I hope Maggie and Nina will have their places in S3 ^^ I really like them and it would be weird to just take them out of the story after all they've witnessed because of the ineffable husbands

[@Sendarya]

Me too. Both characters have grown on me quite a bit!

[@nadjat3705]

Maybe Maggie ist some kind of supernatural being? Maybe even she herself doesn´t know that? And maybe there never was a great grandmother, because it was Maggie hersellf? And maybe back than she still knew what she was, but then something happened, that made her believe, she was just a regular human being? Or maybe she gave up her status as a higher being willingly and then forgot, what she has been before And about the adress "Goat Gate". Isn´t the goat a symbol for the devil and also for god? You see, I don´t have any answers, only questions. 😅 But maybe it could be a little inspiration for you? I want to let you know, that I really enjoy your clever analyzes of the show. And by the way... in my opinion not only Maggie is an analogue character to Aziraphele, I think also Nina shares some characteristics with Crowley. She is sarcastic, a little grumpy, less blue-eyed...

[@wellie1377]

haven’t finished the video so who knows if it’ll be mentioned, but i’ve always found it odd how aziraphale asks if maggie can feel the other angels presence when they come down to question him… idk he’s probably just used to only really talking with crowley but STILL

[@Sendarya]

I didn't mention this, but it just goes to show that Maggie has some weird stuff going on around her character. Questions I hope we see answered in s3!