Goodbye Electron and JavaScript. Hello Tauri and Rust!

Electron is old, underperforming, and bulky. That's why Tauri arrived! Feel free to also check out this video here to learn more about the `move` keyword: • Smarter Programming in...
📝 Description
In this video, we explore the world of Tauri, a game-changer for building Desktop applications. We discuss the limitations of Electron and why Tauri, built in Rust, offers a faster, more secure alternative with a significantly smaller binary size and better memory usage. Not only does Tauri allow you to deploy your application to iOS or Android, but it also lets you use JavaScript or a web framework like Leptos. Join us as we walk through the process of setting up a Tauri application and delve into how it could be the perfect fit for your next project.
⏳ Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
00:35 - Tauri vs Electron
03:16 - Create Tauri Application for iOS, Android, Desktop, and the Web
09:24 - Outro
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[@Slate245Ivanovo]

The thing with React Native is that it uses native elements on each respective platform. Sometimes, it's good (native buttons, loading indicators, modals), sometimes not so good (having to dig into native code to fix inconsistencies). Tauri doesn't offer that. Just a plain wrapper for a webview with your frontend and system bindings in Rust. It's only good if you throw nativity out of the window and want to control the ui 100%

[@FloWoelki]

good point! obviously, Tauri has some native features as well through the Rust bindings, and you can also develop your own if you want to. but, let's see where the future goes. ultimately, the choice depends on your project's needs and priorities.

[@filipniklas]

Cool! Nicely delivered! Once I make my way through the Rust book, I'll be giving this a try!

[@FloWoelki]

thank you and awesome stuff! feel free to reach out to me, if you have any questions about Rust (i btw. also have videos about Rust, so feel free to check them out ;)). also, if you've got ideas or want to see some detailed explanation of something Rust-related, feel free to post that as well :)

[@filipniklas]

@@FloWoelki Appreciate the reply! I'll be sure to check out your other videos! As for possible ideas, how about a webhook server for Stripe in Rust? Or deploying Rust web servers (so like how the pipeline and workflows would work for that).

[@FloWoelki]

@@filipniklas that's awesome. lovely ideas, thank you! I've written them down :)

[@Dominik-K]

Thanks a bunch for this video, really well put together. I'll definitely have a look at this

[@FloWoelki]

thank you for the lovely feedback! awesome stuff :)

[@xorlop]

I am curious what your thoughts are with Dioxus? I think Dioxus uses Tauri as the desktop renderer or something but not sure. Rust noob here

[@FloWoelki]

beginners are always welcome! I've honestly never tried Dioxus before, but I've seen it before. the desktop version is built on Tauri yes. but, I don't think that a lot of JS devs will switch to Rust entirely because it seems too scary :D but it's just great that Rust has all of these cool projects out there trying to make the future more performant ^^

[@FloWoelki]

@@anonymousalexander6005 that's pretty cool! yeah WebView and Solid is also great. but, javascript and electron at their current state feel too bloated. I just feel bad when I need to add another node module to my project :D

[@NewFoxesHD]

My issue with Tauri is the lack of support for multiple web views within a single native window.

[@FloWoelki]

well there is an example of having a multi-web view within a single native window: github.com/tauri-apps/tauri/tree/dev/examples/multiwebview this was the related issue to that example: github.com/tauri-apps/tauri/issues/2975

[@WilsakoGaming_Official]

Tauri still use HTML, JS, and CSS it's just executable file, RAM and others things are smaller and Rust backend makes it have more lower-level access.

[@FloWoelki]

it's so beautiful, isn't it? 🤗

[@maksimmuruev423]

@@FloWoelki No its siill crapware.. not the real app as of course electron.. 100mb for 'hello world'.. heh..

[@pketh]

The place Tauri gets too complex to understand for me is with the security certificates that are required to actually distribute your app on Mac, windows etc. looking forward to the episode you discuss these in

[@FloWoelki]

i agree with that. but everyone has to go through it. no matter if you develop specifically for iOS/OSX or windows.

[@rhysmuir]

my issue with tauri, is that tauri it's self is written in rust, but the UI is still JavaScript.

[@FloWoelki]

you can still feel free to use Rust for the UI. there is no limitation at all 🙌

[@ulrich-tonmoy]

i guess Tauri Will compete with React Native than Electron and the use of js in mobile dev is because of the update delay cause of layer of check for apps while with js you can directly update your app for user without waiting for store check unless its native code/binary update(like expo for react native)

[@FloWoelki]

we'll see, I think GitButler uses Tauri and probably I'll also make a video about building something with Tauri, because it's just magic. especially when you want to use system-specific functionality. that makes sense, yes!

[@ulrich-tonmoy]

@@FloWoelki Maybe a code editor or something similar

[@FloWoelki]

@@ulrich-tonmoy jap that would be a good use case. Or even something similar to Obsidian or Notion.

[@ulrich-tonmoy]

@@FloWoelki yep code editor or markdown/rich text editor

[@chrisdaman4179]

Yeah! Let's take ten times as long to develop an equivalent program that is harder to debug. Rust is such a good idea, and definitely not an elietest fad.

[@FloWoelki]

hopefully, everyone will notice that :) at least it will hopefully become really popular when the beta is fully released.

[@da40au40]

Javascript is inevitable brother

[@FloWoelki]

unfortunately yes :D at least for now

[@hellelo.5840]

Well tauri doesn't support custom protocols registration 😅, and they can't implement it

[@FloWoelki]

maybe there will be an option in the future? :D

[@_zetrax]

let's be honest developing Android & IOS apps for large scale production apps is going to be a hassle

[@FloWoelki]

kind of agree. but if you want to have some specific native features, you have to develop for these platforms. but having just one codebase for "everything" is so nice, especially for smaller teams.

[@Dominik-K]

I like that simple apps can still be augmented via this mechanism. Though I've had some good experiences with just PWA's as well, and I personally prefer those for simple, small apps

[@soldierbirb]

Just use imgui or raylib already...

[@FloWoelki]

these are valid alternatives, yes :)

[@oldm9228]

New technologies suck. I like old technologies.

[@FloWoelki]

let's go! 😄 i also have a Nokia 3109 lol

[@powermyapps]

my dad is 68, he is still using 20 yo Nokia phone. You guys should meet!

[@MarkusBurrer]

You mean knapping a knife from Flintstone?

[@FloWoelki]

that's the spirit haha

[@morgandid]

We Retro Squad 😎

[@d1namis]

This video title should be: goodbye web spyware that come with Electron apps, hello NSA cyber weapons + web spyware that you install on your system. Rust community in 2024 not just toxic, but also idle in brain department. You can use Ada safe code principles with any language, you don't need Rust. You can have memory safety even with pure Javascript,, that you will have in your project anyway with Tauri, you don't need Rust for that. Also you can have same thing that Tauri promise with Ultralight, it had for a long time with stable LTS version with a lot wider range of languages and implementations.