How Scope Creep Killed My Game - Devlog

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Goodgis

Goodgis

Күн бұрын

Sometimes, no matter how hard we try, we just can't finish our projects. This is because of our arch enemy, Scope Creep. Today, I'll take you on a devlog through time as we see how my prehistoric, survival game went extinct because of Scope Creep.
┈ Who is Goodgis? ┈
I’m a full time Graphic Designer, Game Dev, & KZbinr. I specialize in making cute, colorful games in Godot and telling my story through my videos. I also run my own little game studio called Firith. My dream is to hire my friends and make Firith a full-time job. I’m known for games such as The Keeyp, Wizbirds, Snomes, and Dewdrop Dynasty.
┈ Ways to Support ┈
💖 Patreon: / goodgis
┈ Join the Community ┈
💬 Discord: / discord
🦆 TWITTER: / gooodgis
┈ My Game Studio ┈
🍁 Website: firith.studio/
🕹️ Itch.io: firith.itch.io/
🐦 Twitter: / firithstudio
┈ Timestamps ┈
Introduction - 0:00
Attempt #1 - 0:39
Attempt #2 - 3:12
Attempt #3 - 4:18
What's Next - 7:21
Conclusion - 8:50
#devlog​ ​#scopecreep #gamedev #roblox​ #indiedev​ #goodgis​​ #indiegame

Пікірлер: 1 000
@owltoe0164
@owltoe0164 3 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to finish a demo for an action rpg and I recently had the “brilliant” idea of adding a cooking mechanic. I’ll definitely be more mindful of scope creep from now on
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Oooahh, sounds delicious!
@dra6o0n
@dra6o0n 3 жыл бұрын
Make someone you know be your project manager, or doubt your choices to make you consider your ambitions and keep them in check. Most people who don't know the pitfalls will go, "yeah add that, great idea" because well... They are saying that out of consideration. Keep a tight grip on hype, remember that this is still work.
@thatoneguyontheinternet9765
@thatoneguyontheinternet9765 3 жыл бұрын
One possible small work around for scope creep could be updates/DLC get the games basic mechanics all in place only what you need systems wise make sure everything functions then release it and continually update the game with new features you had planned to do this way it can be instead of trying to do it all at once you can split up the work as you release updates like every 1 or 2 weeks release an update for a game like oh here's that cooking update! Or here's a combat update with new weapons and armor a few new special attacks or something just take it relatively slowly
@valletas
@valletas 2 жыл бұрын
You know whats kinda funny? Ive seen lots of games with cooking mechanics in the past Most players end up just skipping it entirely if possible and it tends to annoy a big chunk if cooking is necessary Its always a good thing to question if that cool idea is really going to help your game on the long run
@MrSqurk
@MrSqurk 2 жыл бұрын
I manage to pull off scope creep with my python scripts haha
@codeender5980
@codeender5980 3 жыл бұрын
My brother is my method to counter scope creep. When I bounce ideas off him, he's the one that says 'no, here is your core game, this is what you'll stick to, get this done first'
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
That's what brothers are for! :D My brother does the same thing.
@StalkinU
@StalkinU 3 жыл бұрын
when scope creep translates into learning to do art
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
That too! haha
@monkeyonbuilding3236
@monkeyonbuilding3236 3 жыл бұрын
Very hard for me too because i have no patience and didnt like drawing itslef, i like what it looks like at the end, luckily i like simple designs
@renatusdev
@renatusdev 3 жыл бұрын
BRO YES HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@youtubewatcher6124
@youtubewatcher6124 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it any better, I got lost in the process
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
@@youtubewatcher6124 It is super easy!
@roamingthereal4060
@roamingthereal4060 3 жыл бұрын
One, your game looks awesome. Seeing those dinos break through the rocks in the beginning really sold me in about 5 seconds. Two, it's interesting to see the RTS genre built from the ground up.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! :D
@marcelburdon9795
@marcelburdon9795 3 жыл бұрын
Oh the game looks so lovely, whenever you do finally get back to it I’m sure to hop in to keep up with the devlog :)
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! :D
@sakeusberg
@sakeusberg 3 жыл бұрын
@@Goodgis I agree!
@creater20225
@creater20225 3 жыл бұрын
i agree
@bungiecrimes7247
@bungiecrimes7247 3 жыл бұрын
Creepe😬
@Nobiag
@Nobiag 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. It looks to good not to get finished. If you ever need any beta testers for multiplayer projects like this, i'd love to participate. Anyway, keep up your great work!
@VandroiyIII
@VandroiyIII 3 жыл бұрын
There were once three-compartment fluid wagons in Factorio. When Wube saw their UI bugging out, they removed the whole feature and went on to do more important things. Some people complained, asked if this was a joke, etc. But I think this is a big reason why they are successful where others are not. Same for the old Blizzard, who axed whole game projects on multiple occasions. All complexity is expensive, so you gotta prioritize.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Those are fantastic examples! Thanks for sharing!
@zXMOSZXz
@zXMOSZXz 3 жыл бұрын
How in the hell do you only have 331 subs. One day man you will be huge. Quality of these videos is up there man. keep it up!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just a noobie haha. Thanks for the kind words! :D
@zXMOSZXz
@zXMOSZXz 3 жыл бұрын
@@Goodgis No problem man. I am dead serious. I rarely comment on youtube videos, more of a lurker. But I cannot believe your have so little subs. The games you have made and just as good as any high subbed youtube channel and your videos are on the same level as well. You seriously are going to grow so quick. I cannot wait to watch your journey!
@isto_inc
@isto_inc 3 жыл бұрын
Your voice delivery is solid. Consider me subscribed
@ChrisD__
@ChrisD__ 3 жыл бұрын
I totally thought this was a video from a KZbinr in the 3,000 to 10,000 sub range. It showed up in my Recommended next Wendover Productions and Jonas Tyroller. I think the algorithm is getting better at finding the good stuff!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
@@isto_inc Haha thanks!
@rhgamedev355
@rhgamedev355 3 жыл бұрын
This has happened to everyone hahah! Whenever I let friends play my game, they think it's amazing and usually don't see all the flaws that I perceive! Another great video my dude! Keep 'em coming!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
I know, it's amazing how critical we can be on our own projects. It's the worst! haha Thanks so much.
@damiankaleomontero496
@damiankaleomontero496 3 жыл бұрын
I have the opposite problem, I’m satisfied with all the progress I make and bugs I fix so I share it with my friends and 5 minutes later they give me a list of 50 game breaking bugs and tell me the game is incredibly boring. Also, no scope creep yet as I’m still working on the actually necessary main mechanics.
@RodrigoSpacecpp
@RodrigoSpacecpp 3 жыл бұрын
I wish someone had taught me this a few years ago. I am a very perfectionist person and have fallen into this trap countless times.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
It’s hard to avoid!
@RR19996
@RR19996 3 жыл бұрын
200 Subscribers last October, 16k this March, I can definitely say it's well deserved! Wasn't expecting to hear that figure at the end!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated! :D
@emitenleo
@emitenleo 3 жыл бұрын
now, you know what im going to say... I'd love to see at least a demo of this game. I loved the art, I loved the concept, I loved that the multiplayer worked, I loved everything about it! I would LOVE to see this game in full action, however long it may possibly take.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Stone & Bone will definitely return. ;)
@KonesMorroh
@KonesMorroh 11 ай бұрын
This video is hands down the most relatable and helpful video i've seen in a looong time. Scope Creep has been hunting alot this past few years and even when im kinda aware of it, this video REAALLLLY helps alot to just know that someone else is also having the same problem.
@Proxy720
@Proxy720 3 жыл бұрын
The way u go about telling the story with great editing is PERFECT
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I try to makes videos that I would want to watch.
@Sephta
@Sephta 3 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, the whole, devlog-indieDev-channel type of thing is becoming a bit of an oversaturated trend at the moment. However, I think your content truly stands above many others I have seen thus far. Please continue to grow and flesh out your channels content as much as you can, because I really enjoyed the videos you have made so far.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I don't think you realize how much that means to me. Cheers! :D
@BigToeDev
@BigToeDev 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed :D
@jar985
@jar985 3 жыл бұрын
Could be because of the algorithm. You’ve watched a few devlog videos and now youtube recommends these kind of videos
@Sephta
@Sephta 3 жыл бұрын
@@jar985 yeah this is absolutely the case, I now think, instead of it being an oversaturated trend, what I am really seeing is a lot of stark similarities among this type of content. Not many people I have personally come across try to explore different avenues of portraying their journey into game development and I think this KZbinr is an exception to some degree
@wils-caru
@wils-caru 3 жыл бұрын
"devlog-indieDev-channel type of thing is becoming a bit" i dont agree with you man, this kind of channel is very nice, the problem maaaybe is that the games are a little similar in those channels. however it is very nice to see behind the scenes about every kind of game, at least for some people, that's why it is not saturated at all.
@FlamingleGamesINC
@FlamingleGamesINC 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your dev logs. The designs and gameplay is so well done. I'm currently working on my own game on my channel and love to see other channels making games. I'd love to support your channel grow in anyway possible!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Best of luck with Flamingo Brawl, it looks great.
@FlamingleGamesINC
@FlamingleGamesINC 3 жыл бұрын
@@Goodgis Thanks so much! Same to you!
@colonelhammerhead3025
@colonelhammerhead3025 3 жыл бұрын
It's always great to see someone explain about making a game since I'm planning to start making one soon. Hope you have great success on you game!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too! :D
@AlexClarkeGame
@AlexClarkeGame 3 жыл бұрын
Managing scope is definitely an important part of gamedev! I found that doing gamejams helps for learning to manage scope, as you are forced by the timescale to do so effectively
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more! Having that deadline just forces you to finish your projects and scale back the extra things.
@panduevank8356
@panduevank8356 3 жыл бұрын
First up, this channel is criminally ‘under-subbed’. That’ll change though. But wow, your content is gold. Please keep making this stuff. As someone that’s especially prone to scope-creep, this video really helped solidify the idea of what it would take to finish a game. As for the rest of your channel, time to binge!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate it. My goals is to encourage and inspire others, and have people learn from all of my mistakes. haha
@hannah2798
@hannah2798 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video that I'll be sure to keep awareness of. I'm not a game dev yet, but I plan on learning to make games and will occasionally start writing down game ideas, only to keep writing and writing until the small idea I have that doesn't seem like it would take too long turns into "yeah I'll never finish something like *that* this decade..."
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Best of luck to you!
@LTGD
@LTGD 3 жыл бұрын
Ohhh, this speaks to me on a deep level. I hope making this video has done you some good, because I get the feeling it's a therapeutic kind of cleansing you needed to do about this project. I can't wait to play it. Also congrats on having such an impressive channel so quickly.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
It really has! Thanks so much.
@precooled
@precooled 3 жыл бұрын
"game mode" as a Roblox dev, that hurts.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
What technically is it? haha Roblox isn't a game engine?
@YaBoi-jg9zg
@YaBoi-jg9zg 3 жыл бұрын
@@Goodgis it is. The best way to describe it is unity bought off of wish.com
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
@@YaBoi-jg9zg Ahhh, I got you. I never realized it was basically a game engine.
@YaBoi-jg9zg
@YaBoi-jg9zg 3 жыл бұрын
@@Goodgis think of Roblox as the launcher and publisher that holds the gams made by the game engine
@tylerweir
@tylerweir 3 жыл бұрын
Save your time and go develop somewhere else, you will most likely suffer the same fate as I did for being falsely banned for uploading normal game assets for your game. They don't even care what you are already contributing to their platform or if you are making money or not because their support team is corrupt and unreasonable. Take this from a former dev who has made lots of money off of it only to be tossed away with no reasonable explanation, it just isn't worth it. You also only see less than 30% of the revenue you could make on top of being free labored trying to get into developer exchange to even earn any money.
@MRxFRANCKK
@MRxFRANCKK 3 жыл бұрын
This is inspiring! Good work dude, i'm waiting for this game :)
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! :D
@FreddyNewton
@FreddyNewton 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Scoping is really hard and even to know what are the strengths - so sometimes it is great even to be in a 2, 3 Person team
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
So true! A team really helps you stay motivated.
@Fopull
@Fopull 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! This is some really helpful advice I wish I would have followed when I started game development.. I still kinda am struggling with scope creep but this video has helped me think about it more! Amazing content, can’t wait to see what you do next.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it! Thanks so much.
@NavyPanther54
@NavyPanther54 3 жыл бұрын
I've been binge watching videos of other indie Devs to try and encourage myself to get back into it. I use to make skyrim mods, but never made a game from scratch. But this weekend I've finally started to learn how unity works! Made some real good progress so far. Haven't watched this whole video yet, but I can relate to what I've seen so far lol
@goldenwolfe5085
@goldenwolfe5085 3 жыл бұрын
Same thing with watching indie devs! They inspired me to start with boomer shooter i always wanted to make on Doom engine. Its really simple like code is really clean and easy to understand and pretty detailed. It will take an while
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Best of luck to you! Game dev is incredibly fun and rewarding. If you ever have any questions feel free to DM me on Discord.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! haha
@user-oj3pg4vy1k
@user-oj3pg4vy1k 3 жыл бұрын
I've been watching Yahtzee's devlogs (the Zero Punctuation guy) and in pretty much all his videos he kept banging on about focusing on the primary gameplay loop. Now I finally understand what he meant
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
That’s great advice. If the base game isn’t fun, adding a bunch of junk isn’t going to help. Haha
@albertozapata2607
@albertozapata2607 3 жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel, and man am I blown away by your videos! Very under-rated , As for your game, honestly I thought it looked great when you were having your friends test it out, it looked fun! Anyways keep up the great content
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! It's always surreal for me when people say that, and it means a lot. Cheers!
@videospacegames3321
@videospacegames3321 3 жыл бұрын
Been bitten by the scope creep bug too many times, so I felt this video. This was really well done and it takes guts to admit defeat (albeit temporarily). Thanks for posting it!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped! Thanks so much! :D
@Moodoo20
@Moodoo20 3 жыл бұрын
I had scope creep with a text based game ,so I can imagine how hard it will be for an actual game
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Dang! haha
@SugeryGold
@SugeryGold 3 жыл бұрын
Game looks awesome, it sounds like the 4th try is gonna be the one that does it! Don't go crazy adding everything in the world, just do what you have to to make the game release able and then add anything that you really want to after the base game is done. You've got what looks like a very fun game that you could release with the maps still being small and it could still gain a following. Then you could update it with bigger maps after it blew up and you got excited about it again.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
I think what I need to do is also make the game local multiplayer for now, because the networking is what really messed me up. Like this could be a fun console game.
@sagittariusa5062
@sagittariusa5062 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the wonderful advice. It is very helpful in troubling times. Keep on going, this is a good channel.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! :D Glad I could help.
@SamiTheAnxiousBean
@SamiTheAnxiousBean 3 жыл бұрын
the game looks so cool I would love to see it competed one day and play it myself! I love your work and I'll be following your projects from now on Have a great day and that this year ends up being great!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, I appreciate it! I'll definitely have to finish it at some point!
@SamiTheAnxiousBean
@SamiTheAnxiousBean 3 жыл бұрын
@@Goodgis even though you burned yourself out/Scope creep got to it you still made more progress then i did on mine lol
@AvatarNickGames
@AvatarNickGames 3 жыл бұрын
I've had this happen to me in the past! Definitely a tough problem to solve
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's definitely a problem with larger projects.
@jaydenirwin1989
@jaydenirwin1989 3 жыл бұрын
Love the channel! What is the bold font you’re using?
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It's called Rubik and it's free to download online. (Font Squirrel is great for free high quality fonts.)
@NotFamousReal
@NotFamousReal 3 жыл бұрын
I can relate so heavily to this... Wow you're channel is blowing up! Really great quality videos by the way. Love it!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!! :D
@NotFamousReal
@NotFamousReal 3 жыл бұрын
@@Goodgis Keep up the great work and glad I got to find your channel now before you break 100K subscribers in the coming year.
@faus585
@faus585 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so high quality! Really appreciate them :D
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Well I appreciate you for appreciating them! Haha
@GoGoSkate
@GoGoSkate 3 жыл бұрын
What I learned: Construct exists and I can actually use that without a degree in computer science to make my dumb games
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Ayee!
@SilkyTrashpile
@SilkyTrashpile 3 жыл бұрын
@@Goodgis i have so many ideas once I understood construct
@mm-xk2zl
@mm-xk2zl 3 жыл бұрын
i got this video in my recommendations and didnt know anything about this kind of stuff so i thought scope creep was some evil guy that ruined people's games for fun
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
That is fantastic!
@alisonxavierlopes9219
@alisonxavierlopes9219 3 жыл бұрын
me too!
@kouchka09
@kouchka09 3 жыл бұрын
Sameeéeeêèē P
@WorryCard
@WorryCard 29 күн бұрын
Omg look how far we've come, you had 200 now you're at 150k+. Congrats man
@Kuzurinibubu
@Kuzurinibubu 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Goodgis, I just discovered your channel a few days ago and I´m really thankfull for that. The way you share your expieriences has something deeply inspiring to me, as an aspiring beginner Game Dev. Besides that your content is just entertaining and informative. Wish you the best and thanks for your efforts to share. :)
@Kuzurinibubu
@Kuzurinibubu 3 жыл бұрын
Oh and Imho I thought your third attempt sounded like the best one. The two teams against each other, with the dangers of the envoirnment sounded like tension and continous fun. ^^
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Ayyye, welcome aboard! Also thanks so much!
@Kuzurinibubu
@Kuzurinibubu 3 жыл бұрын
@@Goodgis Thanks, much appreciated. Your welcome!
@quc522
@quc522 3 жыл бұрын
Man, Stone & Bone looked so fun. Would love to play it if it ever comes to be!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :D
@submarine6410
@submarine6410 2 жыл бұрын
@@Goodgis i agree man you shoud finish it if you have the chance to
@mannyw_
@mannyw_ 3 жыл бұрын
This was a really chill video, legitimately enjoyed it. Got a sub from me
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thanks so much!
@bluepinata129
@bluepinata129 3 жыл бұрын
Really liked your video man!! Loved how your games look
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed.
@12e24
@12e24 3 жыл бұрын
This would be a great game! I think your idea of seeing how many days you can survive is what makes it so great of an idea, I can see a lot of people playing that and trying their hardest to survive the longest. I don't mean to add more to the scope creep but adding a leaderboard of who survived the longest would be fun. But I think keeping it focused on that concept would make it stand out.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
That's a sweet idea!
@lakefish7743
@lakefish7743 3 жыл бұрын
make something simple as a demo/test idea, build upon it as you go. Indies don't need to set true deadlines, just add as ye go.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right!
@F38U
@F38U 2 жыл бұрын
Add deadlines but for yourself,otherwise you just keep adding stuff and never actually finish
@Weckacore
@Weckacore 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a great channel here, high quality and quick uploads! Y'all should get in early and subscribe!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, you rock!
@trafficface
@trafficface 3 жыл бұрын
2 days ago, 331 subs, now 1000+ il sub because your quality advise and tone is great.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Haha thank you!
@korrkey4999
@korrkey4999 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making these videos! I am still learning about the Game dev world!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome. :D
@NotTheWheel
@NotTheWheel 3 жыл бұрын
if it makes you feel better... I still think the caveman game is a good idea. You're pretty talented and your videos reflect just as much quality. So I'm gonna sub and see where your imagination leads you. My greatest inspiration always comes from knowing I'm making something others will enjoy. So I hope my enjoyment will inspire you to keep advancing.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
That really means a lot! :D Thanks so much.
@codegnatstudios
@codegnatstudios 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, you use Pyxel Edit. Never seen another person that uses it. Nice! (I like it better, too).
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I like it much better than Aseprite.
@torealexandersen2179
@torealexandersen2179 2 жыл бұрын
Super cool vid, off there was a word for all my projects that didn't make it, due to unlimited ideas. SCOPE CREEP. I have started writing/drawing a simple little sketch with keywords, when I get a project idea. This helps me reduce the possibility of that creeping tendency. Thanks again for a great vid.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully it helps! :D I wish you the best of luck!
@squid4658
@squid4658 2 жыл бұрын
Wow watching this video 1 year later and seeing you had 200 subs then.. incredible. Congrats! You deserve every sub you have and will have man
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! :D
@thejurassicchicken1445
@thejurassicchicken1445 3 жыл бұрын
Question: why did you use these applications and not unity or unreal engine? Is there anything wrong with them?
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
For the networking side and also I'm not a big fan of unreal or unity.
@NilesBlackX
@NilesBlackX 3 жыл бұрын
@@Goodgis why not a fan? I ask because I usually roll my own engine or use components (physics engine, sprite engine etc.) but I know unity pretty well, and never understood the appeal of random small engines like Godot/GameMaker. I've tried a couple, they just always seemed restrictive/strange? I dunno.
@NilesBlackX
@NilesBlackX 3 жыл бұрын
@@Goodgis totally get it with networking. Also I subbed, this was a good video.
@cosmin835
@cosmin835 3 жыл бұрын
well, this "scope creep" guy in my head ruined my last 7 years i told you about :D edit: i forgot to say GREAT VDEO!!! also there's a typo at 1:24 but the video is so better that people didn't think about it
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! haha Yeahhhh, he's the worst.
@kartarva3556
@kartarva3556 3 жыл бұрын
I didnt see that typo
@rmr_md6834
@rmr_md6834 3 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed. Really good. Upload your game when it is simple. After that add updates and updates so that the players stay engaged and dont get bored. Updates are one of the best things in games. F. E. you could add more maps, tools, resources, etc. in future updates
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea! I think the hardest part is just getting the game out, and once you do you can just focus on smaller updates. Thanks for the tip!
@allstrange7495
@allstrange7495 3 жыл бұрын
Man I have scope creep in most personal projects I do. I didn't realize what it was or how it was affecting me. Not a game dev, but this video was eye opening. It's super easy to get sucked into something and wanting to flesh it out with new concepts when the project isn't ready yet. Also, great video
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Super glad to hear this was helpful and best of luck!
@exile1523
@exile1523 3 жыл бұрын
Remember me when you make your 100.000 subs special video
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
I screenshot this comment. If I ever do, this will be in it!
@miguelisaurusbruh1158
@miguelisaurusbruh1158 3 жыл бұрын
Take Scott Cawthon creating fnaf as an example, how a simple game is enough for people to like it
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Very true!
@sugarsores6521
@sugarsores6521 3 жыл бұрын
Such a strong start to a channel, lad! Great video, great editing!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton!
@PixelOtter0813
@PixelOtter0813 3 жыл бұрын
You are so inspirational I made my first game with a lot of scope creep in mind but I saw some other indie dev vids saying the same thing to reduce it as much as possible and make something simple as an individual this makes me think more and reduce the scope creep and work simple but fun on my second one
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Best of luck!
@Keeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@Keeeeeeeeeeeeeee 3 жыл бұрын
Scope Creep- Noun: What ruined Yandere Dev
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
XD
@Keeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@Keeeeeeeeeeeeeee 3 жыл бұрын
@@Goodgis Tbh it’s kinda sad to see such a promising game go down the drain like that- But I guess it’s also the result of how bad of a person Yandere Dev is.
@PhiHoang-sh4cx
@PhiHoang-sh4cx 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the video! Had me thinking a lot about my own thought process in development.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :D
@rushmik
@rushmik 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is gonna go far if you keep up with these quality videos. Bravo!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ross, and thanks for watching!
@dominicbellanca1193
@dominicbellanca1193 3 жыл бұрын
Scrolling youtube @ 5:45 am and I come across this Gem... I'm an aspiring UE4 developer learning all the aspects of the engine and boy let me tell you this is exactly what i needed to hear. Thank you
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
:D Glad you found me!
@CrunkFunk
@CrunkFunk Жыл бұрын
2 years later and still waiting on more on this. Looks super fun.
@BlueGooGames
@BlueGooGames 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome music mix in the intro! Good luck with the game :)
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@loaf778
@loaf778 3 жыл бұрын
This game looks so good looking forward to you finishing it at some point
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@mr_griffolukegriffiths9166
@mr_griffolukegriffiths9166 3 жыл бұрын
This is a video on game development that I didn't know I needed to see till after I watched it! Thankyou.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Haha Glad it helped!
@youtubewatcher6124
@youtubewatcher6124 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you finish it soon, we are excited to play it
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@triple3204
@triple3204 Жыл бұрын
Hi!! You’re like my favorite game developer and who got me into game developing! I just started using unity and I’m not very good but I’m getting better every day so I wanted to thank you :)
@YourFavoriteEnemy
@YourFavoriteEnemy Жыл бұрын
200 subscribers a year ago? Nani?! Nice video man, thanks for the tips, I do see the point and I'm trying not to fall in the same pit. Also... I love Godot. Not perfect, but imperfectly perfect.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis Жыл бұрын
Same! Also thanks so much. :D
@gavriktonio
@gavriktonio 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty wise words, and the video editing is incredible too! I wonder if you had experience with videos before, or some people are just natural at it 😀
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I'm actually a graphic designer by trade, so I took a couple video classes in college.
@torealexandersen2179
@torealexandersen2179 2 жыл бұрын
OH, and the game on a small map seems really fun. Good luck finishing it!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@soulsamurai6914
@soulsamurai6914 3 жыл бұрын
Dude this is so inspiring and fun , great stuff
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton! :D
@nathaniallarkin6060
@nathaniallarkin6060 3 жыл бұрын
I love this idea! If you have up to four teams per match you could design a starting area that is the same for everyone, then in a central area it could be procedurally generated to give variance for each run. Also, you could make that central area larger or smaller depending on how many people are on each team. So if there is only one person on a team, it will be smaller than if 3 people are on a team.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
It really is a ton of fun, when it worked properly haha
@trimericdragon7995
@trimericdragon7995 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video and pixel art :D
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! :D
@survival_man7746
@survival_man7746 3 жыл бұрын
I'm subscribing, I don't know why but I love so much your videos. Also very nice music
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for subbing! :D
@maximilianmander2471
@maximilianmander2471 3 жыл бұрын
From 331 subs to 11.400 in 3 month! Whatever you do, keep it up!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! :D
@TB-fo2rk
@TB-fo2rk 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why you don’t have 100k yet 🤔 You definitely deserve it!!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you! I'm working on it. :D
@firebal6129
@firebal6129 3 жыл бұрын
Yo, the professionality of this video, and you only had 200 subs at the time? Dang I subbed, just so I could get news of this here stone and bone game, it looks like a ton of fun! Reminds me a lot of Starve.io actually, at least, it would have if you went the "every man for himself, but can make teams: route. I wish you luck in your creation!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! :D
@marcelovianna8352
@marcelovianna8352 3 жыл бұрын
The game looks charming as heck! Try to make some basic randomization to the map, like sanctionate the map into smaller map modules and randomize/rotate them (aside the starting zone). This could make the game feels aways fresh and cut alot of work.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
I was actually thinking about it! Great idea!
@garyhawkins9733
@garyhawkins9733 Жыл бұрын
I just came across this video for the first time, I subscribed to your channel! What's absolutely crazy to me is this is the EXACT type of game I dream about building! I thought stone and bone was well made! I would love to help in any way possible. I don't know much about game development, but I have passion! Even if I can help play the game with you and give you some ideas 💡 I play a lot of ark survival evolved, and have played a lot of age of empires, clash of clans etc.... I too believe that if these ideas were all combined into one game, it would do EXTREMELY WELL!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis Жыл бұрын
That's awesome!
@arseniodelacruziii2452
@arseniodelacruziii2452 Жыл бұрын
Never thought that growing a scope would kill a game thank you for the info keep it simple finish the game and then grow the scope
@chuckchuk14
@chuckchuk14 Жыл бұрын
"Channel Just reached 200 subs" damn, you really blew up in the last two years, that's awesome!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis Жыл бұрын
:D
@Lunarose17
@Lunarose17 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I’ve been watching your videos since you first posted on Reddit and you’re absolutely great! I mostly make my games on Construct. Do you think it’d be possible for you to make a tutorial series on the multiplayer plugin or procedural generation on Construct?
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I would love to make a little tutorial series. I noticed a lot of people are curious about the multiplayer. Cheers!
@lee1davis1
@lee1davis1 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the finished art still in this game. Good luck with it.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, I would love to finish this!
@NeatGames
@NeatGames 3 жыл бұрын
Super awesome and well edited video!! This is why I made my first devlog game a 2d platformer haha. Coming to Steam soon :D
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, that's smart.
@insertgoodnamehere8029
@insertgoodnamehere8029 3 жыл бұрын
That's neat
@VitorHugo-xo2ki
@VitorHugo-xo2ki 3 жыл бұрын
You gave me such an ideia for GMTK game jam (2021) Thanks for the idea and for the video! Oh, the ideia you gave was hummm, I can't say, but it's not the game, it's an element inside of it
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Go for it!
@TheBoringOldGamer
@TheBoringOldGamer 2 жыл бұрын
There is an old saying 'keep it simple, stupid' and I think you may benefit from printing this out and sticking it somewhere you can see it while working on your games. Loved the video, and really beneficial as I have literally just started developing a game (at 55 yrs old). Good advice, and keep up the good work 😊👍
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@FortyS
@FortyS 3 жыл бұрын
Hi i really liked The huge trex coming out at night, it seemed at the time like some warcraft 3 map with werewolves. Good work keep it up, remember people will find new mechanics all you have to do is to test it
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@karlovragotuk3081
@karlovragotuk3081 3 жыл бұрын
omg u had only 200 subs back then?! heck right now only 20k? ur so fing underrated
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea haha
@Andreyy98
@Andreyy98 2 жыл бұрын
The scope creeping problem and KISS principle are really core regards software development. People who show real intelligence are those who can go above their ego/dreams and see their own limitations. Wish you a great luck and success with your projects!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 2 жыл бұрын
Great advice, thanks for sharing!
@aviv931
@aviv931 3 жыл бұрын
07:43 so true man!. love your videos ! keep it up:)
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! :D
@LoxagosSnake
@LoxagosSnake 3 жыл бұрын
First of all, Stone & Bone is extremely polished for a game stuck in development hell. I think the next time will actually be the charm. I wanted to ask, since you mentioned it: what's your opinion on multiple projects? I'm working on something that's bigger than what I've done before, while exploring other ideas/prototypes/experiments, but it's generally frowned upon by the community. Still, I find it keeps me on my toes, helps me learn new things and keeps me from burning out.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I do multiple projects all the time. It helps me clear my mind and feel fresh when I get back to my main project. :D
@DerpShark
@DerpShark 3 жыл бұрын
Stone & Bone sounds like the title for my favorite type of evening
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Oh gosh, you scare me! haha
@davidsvezhintsev3073
@davidsvezhintsev3073 3 жыл бұрын
Great video man!
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@boothbyaw
@boothbyaw 3 жыл бұрын
200 subscribed and 3 months later 10k subscribers. Congrats dude.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, dude!
@donavenhollow5709
@donavenhollow5709 3 жыл бұрын
I've never truly been an artist until I joined my first game jam and made sprites for it. Sprites are fun to make for me, animations and all but Tilesets are something that isn't clicking as well yet.
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome!
@axmoylotl
@axmoylotl 3 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of that IO game and that minecraft wither base minigame. The initial idea is actually really good, it'd be nice to see it realized into a proper game
@Goodgis
@Goodgis 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely should make this a complete game! :D
@miteruno
@miteruno 4 күн бұрын
its very interesting to me how this concept also applies to the creation of comicbooks
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