Georgia Tries To Escape the Russian Grip.

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[@TheGrace020]

Ja kocham your epicness 😎

[@kenyonscales7401]

I've watched your videos for a very long time. Could you do a bit more objective analysis like you did before? 👍 it's too obvious that a narrative is being pushed.

[@aachoocrony5754]

​@@TheGrace020those glasses fog your vision.

[@TheGrace020]

@@aachoocrony5754 😱

[@jonatand2045]

The source of opposition to western influence are superstitious nutjobs. Just remind them their god created Satan in their mythology and that free will is no solution because any indeterminism contradicts omniscience.

[@nicolae1392]

Feel sory for any country bordering Russia.

[@Pilvenuga]

Really, the countries bordering Russia are doing well enough to be happy. What more would you want from life?

[@tishafeed8085]

@@Pilvenuga incredible. doing well enough indeed. Belarus - piss poor, under the russian boot, waiting to be annexed. Ukraine - currently undergoing a genocide. Georgia - piss poor, moving towards the russian boot. Armenia - piss poor, under the russian boot, slowly drifting from it. Azerbaijan - piss poor, in the general vicinity of the russian boot. Kazakhstan - piss poor, in the general vicinity of the russian boot. The rest of Central Asia - no comments, the boot was eaten without salt long ago.

[@DedmanReactin]

​@@Pilvenugafreedom of speech?

[@dzonikg]

I feel sorry for any country USA have "national interest " in it

[@bakimc4722]

Said the Nazi

[@ValensBellator]

It’s just crazy how much influence one single billionaire who has obviously been completely corrupted by Russia has in Georgia.

[@Pilvenuga]

money-influence-time make up the triangle of political power. when you are able to convert money into influence due to employees of institutions favoring a few extra niceties, you do the exhange with favorable rates. time is the factor that erodes that calculus but if nobody in the public cares about it, you're essentially doing it in a frictionless environment. almost lossless in fact. that is how you end up with the Georgia of today. a nation state that is just waking up to the fact they have messed up for a long time now. making up for lost time and effort is a messy business, Georgia will never go back to pre 2008 era in this generation of people. but it can make sure they dont do any worse. anymore.

[@AndreiGrozea]

It's generally crazy how much influence russian oligarchs have everywhere

[@dzonikg]

@@AndreiGrozea We all know that all polytans in USA are dirty poor

[@aachoocrony5754]

Sakashvili isn't a billionaire and he's a CIA plant. The people put him in prison after his tied stint as mayor in one of the most corrupt countries in the world, Ukraine. The title is misleading. Georgians are trying to extricate themselves from US influence. They don't want to be another Ukraine.

[@janentomenkafka]

Money "buys" votes in many countries. Money influences legislation and it pays the election campaign of political candidates. Money also buys newspapers and television channels to influence the people.

[@Tech-Nick-Que]

Hello from Georgia! Thank you for keeping an eye on our stuff :) I can verify that 90% of the things said in video about georgia is quite correct.

[@aachoocrony5754]

You're from Georgia? 😭😭😭😭😭 Nice try?

[@janentomenkafka]

@@aachoocrony5754 Pff... are you trolling ? Unlike you, this guy has uploaded some content on his channel. The oldest video clips have a title written in Georgian. People who use the Georgian language and the Georgian alphabet are probably Georgian... No ?

[@janentomenkafka]

Hi, I believe every country should be allowed and able to choose its own path. So you guys have my fullest sympathy.

[@aachoocrony5754]

@@janentomenkafka you wrote nonsense. Shows things. He made videos...therefore? He is Georgian...therefore? \_0_/ huh? Happy new year to you too.

[@howtoappearincompletely9739]

@@aachoocrony5754 It really doesn't seem that implausible a claim to me.

[@Njerimebanane]

Gattsu moment

[@Darkseidsolosfiction]

W Gattsu

[@TheGrace020]

Based Gattsu fr fr

[@mdjey2]

Little bit berserk? 😱🥳

[@ZetaMoolah]

@@mdjey2cultured

[@hybridarmyoffreeworld]

There is a reason why in Finnish verb "Ryssiä" (Muscovy ) , roughly meaning "to totally fail something".

[@aachoocrony5754]

And what's the reason? Finlandisin grave danger, because the US want you to fight Russia like how they convinced those gullible Ukrainians.

[@justskip4595]

I could offer better, more expanded translations to that but youtube would remove my comment. But yes, is simplicity it is to mess up things put in very mild way.

[@courier6525]

Есть причина, по которой Уголовный Кодекс Финляндии начинается на слов "Мы, император русский... "?

[@aachoocrony5754]

I see Finland is messing up very badly compared to Russia. But it's nice you have propaganda built into your language. Could explain the current pickle you're in as we say in America.

[@davidbowie5023]

@@aachoocrony5754 Ivan, with large territory, yet an economy inferior to even Italy 😂

[@Darkseidsolosfiction]

Incoming ruzzian bots Edit: funny how only arguments they have are ,,says the Western bot"

[@hamelconsultancyllc]

They were here within 5 minutes.

[@andybogdan4380]

Report every last one of them.

[@SpeaksYourWord]

Ironic

[@JesseDapo]

You're boring, go and play with sand 🤝💯

[@wenterinfaer1656]

"Russia has only two allies - its oligarchs and its bots." Alexander III "Russia's strength can only be undermined by the secession of botfarms." Otto von Bismarck "If there are bots, there is Russia; if there are no bots, there is no Russia." Peter I “Putin received Russia with a plow, but left it with bots” Winston Churchill "We are Russians, bots are with us!" Alexander Suvorov "He who controls botfarms controls the world." Nathan Rothschild "Russian power will grow through Crimea and bots." Mikhail Lomonosov "Who wishes to fight must first count the cost of bots.” Sun Tzu

[@benchoflemons398]

No to Russian law

[@lei-ci1wo]

You can say "no" but Den Haag say ...IGH

[@joythought]

Absolutely. No to Russian law and Russian jackboots.

[@alexsnow5092]

the law was supposed make it a sovereign country, the people who organized protests want Georgia to belong to foreign companies

[@MChagall]

​@@alexsnow5092ah yes poor eastern European nations that joined the EU and thrived soo much because of it

[@alexsnow5092]

@@MChagall is that sarcasm?

[@sandromdivani9935]

Thanks, As Georgian this video is very good and mostly explained situation very well

[@05KAR]

The channel is made by a Polish guy. We know a thing or two about Georgia, bit more than the "westerners".

[@Samaa-os7hx]

You're not Georgian, your Soros bot.

[@batrachian149]

@@Samaa-os7hx >four month old account Hi Ivan!

[@arkt0r]

@@batrachian149 And what does this mean? Should everyone have created their accounts 20 years ago?

[@batrachian149]

@@arkt0r Hi Ivan!

[@Ea-pb2tu]

I pray that we do something to help the Georgian people. It just pisses me off seeing us never act decisively despite our overwhelming economic and military superiority. The Georgians want to be a part of the west, we should welcome them and make the road forward as easy as possible.

[@ByZHellas]

Why should we keep involving ourselves in other countries affairs? It’s never actually for their gain, just for ours, spreading freedom and democracy is such a clear move to justify our country’s actions and has nothing to do with what this country actually does, especially considering the fact that our political system is so broken and the people don’t even have a real say, and whatever bit we do have are opinions pushed upon us by the media with a very insignificant minority of people actually holding independent and useful viewpoints that isn’t just whatever the ruling parties have as their core tenets. We just live in a dictatorship which makes us feel as if we have rights and freedoms but they’re highly regulated and it just gets worse and worse every day with how much more they clamp down with new laws and technologies.

[@LevanMegrelishvili]

​@@ByZHellasWhich country are you from?

[@robertginsburg8113]

​@@ByZHellas You are a fool if you believe what you've written. I live in the U.S. and regulations (laws) written by elected officials are not a threat to your freedom unless they are bad laws, like the foreign agents bill in Georgia, in which case you vote the people out who write and enact bad legislation. Good laws protect your freedom. Our Constitution is the first draft of the rules signed into law and protects your freedoms. Having the right to vote and keeping an open clear mind is crucial to sustaining those rights. The threat of autocracy is real in the U.S. with people like Donald Trump, who thinks Putin, Xi and that fat kid from North Korea are great leaders. If you don't realize the threat that those leaders pose to the world you will find them on your doorstep soon enough. Only a fool would not protect those rights by not supporting others like Georgia and Ukraine that are on our side in this struggle to have the right to free speech to vote for good leadership. Russia has been attacking the U.S. with propaganda on social media. It's part of the reason Trump got elected. The threat is real, it's corrupted people in our government and even some billionaires that stand to profit from alignment with Russia. Ignore it at your peril.

[@Darkseidsolosfiction]

​@@LevanMegrelishvili he is a Russian troll

[@aachoocrony5754]

Georgians don't want you in their country. Don't go there with your clueless talk. Btw the US isn't in Georgia to help them. The US look at them as fodder like the way they look at Ukrainians.

[@seanclancy9746]

The Russo-Georgian War occurred the same year US troop levels in Iraq and Afghanistan peaked, which was a big part of the U.S.’ lack of interest. The same wars were reasons why NATO was not getting along that well at the time. Interestingly the 4th brigade of the Georgian Army was in Iraq when the war started. The U.S. tried to ferry them home, but they arrived too late

[@GothPaoki]

Wait wtf were Georgian troops doing in iraq?

[@Darkseidsolosfiction]

​@@GothPaoki helping NATO

[@GothPaoki]

@@Darkseidsolosfiction well i guess Georgia experienced karma in that case. They became victims of an unjustified war while also participating in another unjust war.

[@aachoocrony5754]

So you're saying more US interest in Georgia is a blessing? That's hilarious. Funny, the Georgians don't agree with you. The majority want the US out. Can't blame them.

[@Megalomaniakaal]

@@Darkseidsolosfiction Helping the coalition. Iraq was not a NATO sanctioned operation. Afghanistan was.

[@davidbowie5023]

Irish people are with Georgia. You are parts of Europe, and will always be. 🇮🇪🤝🏻🇬🇪

[@burnadze]

Georgian people are for the law, not against it, you west sponsored bots

[@burnadze]

Georgian people are for the law, not against it, you west sponsored bots

[@jirislavicek9954]

Irish people have no clue Georgia even exists (apart from the US state). All they are interested in is worship of Palestinians.

[@ruslan-pe3wx]

And what did Irish people do for Georgia?

[@dzonikg]

So then you support this law because majority off Georgiena vote for it

[@Clock_Man_2763]

Georgia is unfortunately an unlucky country, having 20% still occupied, bordering a a large imperialist country Russia and having a pro-Russian government, but we are fighting for a better future so we’ll eventually become just as developed as Norway, Estonia and Finland and not be doomed to fail like Belarus or North Korea ✊🇬🇪🇪🇺💖

[@valeriegillet473]

Le jour les géorgiens auront un cerveau leurs pays sera développé continuer a accuser les autres de vos incompétences

[@ccdsds3221]

Georgia is literally prospering right now thanks to Russia...

[@Clock_Man_2763]

@@ccdsds3221 Being closer to west gives more opportunity and potential for Georgia to develop, they are the one helping us while Russia only wants to sabotage Georgia and still occupies 20%

[@vitapavacllp999]

in thet 20% occupied live ABCASIAN and OSSETIA peolpe which are not GEORGIAN...and the do no want to be GEORGIAN...open a history book every now and then ..or is it right to ask indipendecy only for KOSOSVO?

[@anonymous-ci2oq]

​@@vitapavacllp999 if you open a history book you will see that these people you just said are not natives and never lived there, these people were settled by ussr, so that they would use them as a bomb in the regions to destabilize them. that regions were always georgia and georgian people lived there until this wars and ussr movements, also you need to know that we were like brothers to them, they were living in northern caucasus until ussr created that kind of propaganda that made georgians and that people hate each other. if you open old archives too you can see that at the start of the 20th century that people werent living there, and throught the history georgians were always welcoming and tolerant people. hope this answered your questions

[@TheGrace020]

Badass Georgia

[@aachoocrony5754]

Yes, badass because they are resisting repeated US attempts to co-opt their country.

[@unitedfront9717]

Another strong one polish man

[@aachoocrony5754]

Georgians are trying to kick out US influence. The Kool aid is that strong?

[@luishernandezblonde]

Do not give up Georgia, Poland supports you in your quest to become part of Europe. 🇵🇱🇬🇪

[@Darkseidsolosfiction]

🇬🇪🤝🇵🇱

[@Samaa-os7hx]

Poland doesn't want to be in EU though.

[@DamianCzechowski-tn4py]

​@@Samaa-os7hx can you bring up the statistics please?Last time I checked a big majority wants to be in europe

[@batrachian149]

@@Samaa-os7hx >four month old account Hi Ivan!

[@shotakvaratskhelia6488]

Dziękuję bardzo

[@unusualsuspect4043]

Thank you for your outstanding analysis 👏 respect from Tbilisi. We shall never surrender!

[@hybridarmyoffreeworld]

" Saddam Putsein the Great Loser" is rapidly sending Muscovy back to 15c borders .

[@Sp4nX383]

Sry for asking but who is Saddam Putsein?

[@aachoocrony5754]

​@@Sp4nX383he doesn't know. He doesn't even know his own borders and who or what drives his own country. 😬

[@batrachian149]

@@aachoocrony5754 Hi Ivan

[@alexhennigh5242]

Can the Russians just not ONE FUCKING TIME!?!?

[@meteorknight999]

Then dont expand nato on russian borders its that simple you can have relations without nato woth these countries but no

[@garbaneli]

​@@meteorknight999 🤡 We have a freedom of choice, we will figure it out somehow without ruZZia

[@nobodyherepal3292]

@@meteorknight999maybe Russia should stop invading their neighbors all the time, and people wouldn’t join NATO the first chance they got.

[@Wisterroll]

⁠stop expanding Nato and Moscow stop expanding influence

[@hyhhy]

@@nobodyherepal3292 Georgia and Ukraine definitely got invaded because they tried to join NATO, so that's how they brought it on themselves.

[@jayfreechavez0000]

Prayers for Georgia 🇬🇪

[@bertrecht913]

We should more pray for our people and country

[@arkt0r]

@@bertrecht913 Prayers for Ivanishvili

[@bertrecht913]

@@arkt0r Prayers for all slaves and victims of this fuck satanic NWO System.

[@sapientum8]

This kind of law would be extremely useful for the US Congress, so that American people could immediately recognize the agents of a foreign power. Sadly, those very agents will never allow for such a law.

[@jirislavicek9954]

The US has FARA - Foreign Agent Registration Act

[@janentomenkafka]

NGO's like the Red Cross, Doctors without borders, Amnesty International and other NGO's often signal things that local authorities prefer to keep quiet about. Russia has used this law to silence these NGO's. Another thing. Look at AIPAC. They are not "foreign agents" because they are an American Jewish organisation. And yet they are very influencial concerning American policies towards Israel. Or Russian influence in other countries by disinformation on social media. A law against foreign agents would not do anything against these examples.

[@sapientum8]

​@@jirislavicek9954 Yes, kind of. Except for the AI pack elephant in the room.

[@Slackera1991]

The video is mostly factually accurate, so kudos for that. And sheds light on the difficult political situation facing Georgia. However, Saakashvili was not voted out only because there was fear that he may start another war. There was serious corruption within his United National Movement party, with many of the members turning into millionaires by racketeering and harassing Georgian businesses as well as funding their lifestyles from the government budget. There were many instances where business owners would be arrested together with their families and were threatened with r8pe of their families on the orders of the United National Movement government members unless they signed their businesses and wealth over to TBC bank, from which they were then able to purchase said businesses for symbolic prices like 10 dollars. There were also many instances where ordinary citizens were murdered for personal slights and offences against individual members of the party and these instances were naturally covered up. There was even a leaked phone conversation of the Minister of Interior at the time, Vano Merabishvili, where he said "I need 2 corpses". The Georgian Dream are getting closer to the brutality of the United National Movement government with the recent beatings during protests but so far thankfully at least no one was killed yet as happened during the United National Movement's reign. Saakashvili was the person presiding over this government racketeering, harassment, beating and occasional murder of citizens, whether he was personally involved or turned a blind eye is not proven. However, that was the main reason he was arrested, although this could not be proven since the United National Movement party covered their tracks and these instances were conducted with twisting of the law or verbally. Naturally, this was also a move by the Georgian Dream party to get more votes from people who were negatively affected by Saakashvili's government in one way or another, and there were many. The issue with the Georgian Dream party therefore remains because the average person often does not want to vote for an opposition composed of many of the same people from the United National Movement party who were members of the previous government or at the very least were affiliated with them. If there was a different opposition some sort of 3rd power not affiliated with either party then Georgian Dream would have been voted out in 2020 or even as early as 2016. Because right now there are many parties to vote for on paper, but the vast majority of them fall under the umbrella of either one or the other, so there is a de-facto 2-party system in Georgia. So the problem remains Georgians are faced with 2 evils, one past and one current and are unable to move forward towards a brighter future.

[@Darkseidsolosfiction]

ჩუმად ქოცო

[@janentomenkafka]

@@Darkseidsolosfiction Why be quiet ? Slackera seems to give his honest opinion.

[@Slackera1991]

@@Darkseidsolosfiction ოცნებისთვის ხმა არასდროს მიმიცია არჩევნებში😘 თან 2016ში და 2020ში უკვე აღარავინ მისცემდა ხმასთქო და ქოცობა რაზე შემატყვე ამ კომენტარიდან. ნაცებმა რომ ცუდი გააკეთეს არ ნიშნავს რომ ქოცები არ აკეთებენ.

[@Aussie-Mocha]

Very well explained!! Bravo 👏🏻!! ✊🏻🇺🇦 🇬🇪 🇦🇺

[@davidmenjivar8890]

Georgia 🇬🇪 needs to Unite 🕊️

[@frank1313]

Hopefully the Georgians get their way in the end, it’s a fact that the majority of the country don’t want to be under Russias boot. Especially after Russia literally started a war with them. The fact that Ivanishvili's party has any significance in Georgia is absurd.

[@basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t7126]

Cope. This is the only way forward for Georgia. By law, a country cannot join the EU or NATO if they have border disputes. Georgia has border disputes in Abkhazia, and South Ossetia. Georgia would have to either give up their claims to these regions (will never happen), or get Russia to leave (will REALLY never happen). There's no pathway for Georgia to join the west, so with this in mind, just joining up with Russia is their best option.

[@howtoappearincompletely9739]

@@basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t7126 Border disputes are not an insurmountable bar to EU membership. Cyprus joined the EU in 2004 despite the island being partly under the de facto control of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

[@basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t7126]

@@howtoappearincompletely9739 And Turkey was given candidate status with the EU to help ease it along. You think Russia will be given candidate status?

[@05KAR]

@@basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t7126 Not true. Cyprus has border disputes and is a member of the EU anyway. Moscow collapsed on several occasions and left Georgia alone, few times in quite recent history. There's no future with Moscow, only poverty, crime and corruption.

[@basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t7126]

@@05KAR Is that why Russia's economy is set to grow faster than any other in Europe this year?

[@el_Litwin]

"Everything is going according to plan." Saddam Putsein

[@user-ux3ye8cv7g]

Well spoke 🫡

[@aachoocrony5754]

Yes things are going well for Putin. But you're not doing well no? Always distracted s Russia and Putin bad but can't see the elephant in the room.,

[@f-86zoomer37]

@@aachoocrony5754 no one knows what you're talking about, shill. speak in concrete terms, not cowardly

[@batrachian149]

@@aachoocrony5754 Hi Ivan

[@bertrecht913]

​@@batrachian149Hi Sam!

[@54032Zepol]

Nah brah that's NATO expansion

[@chat4783]

The Georgia Dream Party, more like Russian puppet Nightmare Party. 😂😂😂

[@MCSonixx]

🦁🦁🦁🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪🦁🦁🦁

[@patricklarsen8078]

Now that EU is militarizing, the EU goes from trade union to a miltary alliance. Georgia can look to ukraine to see what waits. And when it comes to the foreign agent law the US has the exact same law.

[@el_Litwin]

"Благодаря невероятно успешной внешней политике путина у нас всегда будут полные холодильники! " - заявил директор Ростовского морга 🇷🇺 ..."Everything is going according to plan." Saddam Putsein

[@r2com641]

Каковы потери Украины в этой войне? Там холодильники не переполнены?

[@mrbad3036]

​@@r2com641 Considering that their citizens are more important for them, than the "minced meat" the Kremlin calls an army, I would say much less overflowing. After all the Ukranian government aren't invading other countries and putting their citizens in needless harm.

[@r2com641]

@@mrbad3036 sorry I’m not buying your Ukrainian propaganda infested statements. Why? Because I saw multiple videos from Ukraine how Ukraine military police on the streets grabs ordinary young Ukrainians who don’t wanna be drafted against their will. Why are you lying to me? Why are you lying to the world?

[@r2com641]

@@mrbad3036 I seem multiple videos from Ukraine how their military police drafts young guys who don’t wanna go to war against their will, so please don’t lie to me and to the world ok?

[@kindlingking]

​@@mrbad303630 people drowned in Tisa river trying to cross the border this month alone. Is this because their government cared about them too hard?

[@anthonymanderson7671]

It's crazy that the georgian dream is russophilic and wants to improve relations with a country that has historically invaded them shows how dramatic politics can be.

[@dzonikg]

Its crazy that Japan who were nuked by USA want to have to have ties with that country and even allow USA military bases there

[@dzonikg]

​@yndvoh4 Only successful story there is South Korea but even that is debatable becase it has one off the highest suicide rate in the world becase its work work work and not much left to actually life a life. Also North Korea is under total sanction for 70 years so hard to compare. All others like Germany ,Japan were mayor industrial powers and before.Israel people were we one the richest in the world before WWII Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia have been richest republic in USSR and since end off it they lost huge population and still decline .And Lithuania is second in suicide rate in whole world . ANd just look countreis around USA.ITs all violence ,murders,life worth nothing there like Mexico ,Haiti and all gulf nations . I can you compare you here in Serbia . NATO and USA attacked Serbia to take our province "KOsovo and Metohija " now named only Kosovo .Before that wages were the same,now after 25 years off USA rule average salary in Kosovo is 2 times lower then in Serbia

[@kindlingking]

​@yndvoh4did you just made up an analogy as an argument? Seriously? Wait, is your argument literally "it's okay for us to do this, because we're the good guys, we only do good"? And then you get surprised the rest of the world doesn't like you and calls you colonisers.

[@MKai134]

The Georgian dream party is not a pro-russian party of any sort, and I feel sorry for people who think it is.

[@theredbaron7]

as a Georgian, I can tell, that this is one of the most accurate information about the situation in my country. thank you for the interest. we need western help, our government leaders and their families must be sanctioned strictly!

[@juliansebastian]

Very interesting video!

[@sergiysergiy]

Yes, it will miss it, as it already missed it in Ukraine. History is a flat circle.

[@sergicheishvili6082]

Thank you for this! Respect from Tbilisi

[@dunnowy123]

I don't understand what the big deal with the law is, to be honest. Wouldn't this apply to Russian NGOs just as much as Western NGOs? Is it just because a single law is similar to one in Russia? This law could be applied the other direction as well...? Maybe there's some context I'm not getting.

[@klarachiamarsi5935]

Georgia tries to defend herself specifically from the WESTERN NGO's. The West doesn't like that, and spews blatant lies to gaslight the georgian public.

[@giorgitavartkiladze4829]

There are almost no ruzzian NGOs. Most ruzzian money is coming from undeclared sources through private individuals. Thus, the law cannot actually detect it. The worst thing about the law is that every NGO is labelled as a carrier of foreign interest, which is ufnarily quite defamatory.

[@hyhhy]

The context you're not getting is that the US and the EU fund such "NGOs" in Georgia (as they do in many other countries) over 9000 times more than Russia does. And by the way, the US has had such a law in place for ages, which is what Russia's similar law is inspired by.

[@ccdsds3221]

literally every ''western'' country has similar laws... USA has the harshest ones.

[@ericanell8933]

Turkey confirmed to be the west🎉

[@_Painted]

Anatolia is historically/geographically part of the west, but Erdogan and his party are trying to make Turkey into a neo-Ottoman power aligned with only Pakistan and a Turkic-dominated ISIS-K in Central Asia… At this point, Turkey is the greatest enemy of the West.

[@Financeification]

Brilliant analysis and conclusion; loved this work.

[@rammstein272]

The title should be "Georiga tries to escape the US grip" Russia is not strong enough to fight against "Foreign agent law".

[@pomeloco1554]

I have traveled all around Georgia twice, before and after Ukraine's invasion. I was pretty struck to see the people's support towards Ukraine. Although, many Georgians still speak Russian, lots of shops displayed signs that they won't speak Russian. If I recall correctly, the Russian border was closed but Russians would still come through Armenia and Azerbaijan. But, lots of those Russian that came in, were actually in opposition to Russia. Russian opposition was running strong in Georgia. I don't if that changed. EU flags were also displayed everywhere even in public buildings. I did enter Abkhazia once and it is way poorer than Georgia and less dynamic. When you compare both you see that the one that is managed by Russia is way backwards and honestly I don't see how Abkhazians still prefer that union. Even though, Saakachvili government was not perfect, it lead to several key reforms that helped Georgia a lot in the late 2000's. Russia used Ossetia as warning as Saakachvili government was pushing to the west. His trial and prison was heavily political. Remember that Russia still occupy areas that border the city of Gori and Russian Ossetian troops still actively disrupt the border area. Kidnapping, thefts and so forth.

[@joshuaholder6818]

Obama neglected Georgia if I remember right.

[@Darkseidsolosfiction]

​@@thegoodpimps Russia is the warmonger, Obama didn't do shit

[@f-86zoomer37]

Yeah, he grew very close to Putin, and also did token gestures when Russia invaded crimea. Funny enough, back then, it was Republicans who were extremely anti-Russia, and one of their main criticisms against Democrats in the 2012 election was how they were trying to be friendly with Putin. Now it's all completely switched with republicans openly shilling for russia and saying how they're a great bastion of christian values or something like that. All republicans are traitors. The Constitution spells out exactly what should be done about traitors, but youtube will delete my comment if I say what it is.

[@nikajaliashvili1346]

I am very tired of living between Europe and Asia, In the zone of influence of Russia, America, Europe, Turkey, Iran. please somebody give us damn island so we could live in peace

[@mariajones8304]

America bombed Georgia? 😮seriously? Actually Russia did. America has nothing to do with Georgia and will do nothing unless you officially ask for help.

[@Sp4nX383]

You should decide for one Country

[@sapientum8]

Take Greenland.

[@levaniandgiorgi2358]

even if we were to have our own island,would they really leave us alone? lol vitom kundzulze ro movjdet dagvanebeben martla? :dd

[@nikajaliashvili1346]

@@levaniandgiorgi2358 რავი კუბას ირლანდიას და კვიპროს არ უშველა. ალბათ მაინც ესთ დღეში ვიქნებოდით

[@njnikusha]

OMG content about my native country of Georgia??? Did not see this coming. Well done, objective and highly informative

[@nawafdreams]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 *🚩 Georgia's struggle between pro-Russian and pro-Western influences* - Thousands of demonstrators in Tbilisi, Georgia's capital, protested the ruling party's pro-Russian turn. - The ruling Georgian Dream party is pushing Georgia towards the Russian model, while the society, especially the youth, is fighting to keep the country oriented towards Western civilization. 01:00 *🗳️ Georgia's "foreign agent" law controversy* - In March 2023, the Georgian Dream party announced the withdrawal of a proposed "foreign agent" law, which had enraged Georgian society. - The law would have required media and NGOs receiving more than 20% of their funding from abroad to register as "agents of foreign influence", similar to a Russian law. - The law was seen as an attempt to suppress pro-Western voices and crack down on civil society. 03:15 *🇷🇺 The roots of Russia-Georgia tensions* - The 2008 Russia-Georgia war resulted in the loss of control over the territories of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, which came under de facto Russian control. - The war was the first episode in Putin's campaign to restore Russia's influence over post-Soviet territories, including Georgia. - The West's lack of support for Georgia during the 2008 war led to feelings of betrayal and abandonment in the country. 07:12 *🤝 The rise of Bidzina Ivanishvili and the Georgian Dream party* - Ivanishvili, a billionaire with ties to the Russian elite, won the 2012 elections and promised stability and normalization of relations with Russia. - However, his party's rule has been characterized by a pro-Russian tilt, the expansion of government control, and the crackdown on civil society and independent media. 11:45 *🇪🇺 Georgia's current political landscape* - The Georgian Dream party, with Ivanishvili in the background, is consolidating its power and pushing for a pro-Russian agenda. - The arrest of former president Mikheil Saakashvi and the violent crackdown on protests are seen as symbols of the government's authoritarian tendencies. - Despite the EU granting Georgia candidate status, the government has shown no intention of implementing the necessary reforms for EU integration. 14:59 *🔍 The future of Georgia's struggle* - Despite the government's efforts to pass the "foreign agent" law, the protest movement continues, with the younger generation leading the charge for Georgia's European integration. - Ivanishvili and the Georgian Dream party have several strategic advantages, including fear of Russian invasion, a fragmented opposition, and control over the media and state apparatus. - The upcoming October 2023 elections will be a crucial test for Georgia's democratic future and its continued struggle between pro-Russian and pro-Western influences. Made with HARPA AI

[@giod6266]

Well done, good analize of situation..

[@thebean3463]

Georgians I hope the EU allows you in. The mistakes made 16 years ago were on us. Praying for you guys. Love from the US 🇬🇪🇺🇸

[@attilatoth1051]

Do not overdo your prayers! Georgians can be happy as long as they are far away from you!

[@LevanMegrelishvili]

​@@attilatoth1051don't speak in the name of Georgians you Russian bot. I am Georgian and we need more support from the west in this situation

[@Blablablabal1024]

Thank you ❤ dont listen to russian trolls here. The majority in Georgia support and respect the USA !!

[@aachoocrony5754]

Love from the US???? Go to Georgia and tell that to a Georgians face. 😬

[@LevanMegrelishvili]

@@aachoocrony5754 STFU Putin's bot. I am Georgian and we love and respect USA too

[@mariasugino8873]

Thank you so so much for covering this

[@ricklayeux5688]

I don't know of any countries that were part of the USSR that want to go back. That says a lot.

[@hybridarmyoffreeworld]

BACKGOUND : После 2-й Мировой войны 10-мильонная Белaрусь 🏳❤🏳 не досчиталась около 3-х мильонов своих жителей, однако околь 2-х миллионов были убиты еще до войны органами коммунистического НКВД. В Беларуси физически уничтожили 70 процентов всех белaруских писателей, убили ученых и художников. (Труппа Третьего Белорусского Государственного театра Владислава Голубка была арестована в полном составе. Почти все были расстреляны.) Убивали по национальному признаку. Ради этого был придуман ярлык "нацдем" (это значит -- национальный демократ, хотя такой партии не существовало). Этот ярлык приклеивали ко всем белорусам, которых сталинисты планировали уничтожить. В недрах НКВД была придумана несуществующая антикоммунистическая организация СВБ ("союз освобождения Белaруси"). Под придуманный фантом энкавэдисты проводили аресты, вели воображаемое следствие, допрашивали, пытали, судили, потом ссылали в paсeю и расстреливали невинных людей. После Рижского сговора в 1921 году Беларусь разделили между Польшей и paсeей. Границу раздела провели недалеко от Менска. Существовал тайный приказ НКВД уничтожать всё белорусское население вдоль границы. Российские аккупанты хотели сделать здесь безлюдную зону. Уничтожение осуществляли пограничные войска. Довереным лицам выдавали винтовку и лопату. Когда такой солдат-пограничник встречал в безлюдном месте (на дороге, в поле, в лесу) одинокого белоруса или белоруску, или ребенка, он стрелял человека, тут же лопатой выкапывал яму и засыпал труп. Такова была инструкция. Люди в деревнях не так боялись "человека с ружьём", как солдата с лопатой. (Эти факты опубликованы в белaруской печати в начале 90-х годов.) В 30-х годах на 95-99 процентов (практически полностью) была уничтожена (сослана и расстреляна) белaруская коммунистическо-партийная и советская администрация. Уничтожали даже директорат и хозяйственных руководителей. На должности убитых администраторов и коммунистических начальников-белорусов присылали “русских” из paсeии. “Русские” 🇷🇺 (так называемые "выдвиженцы") приезжали в Беларусь, занимали освобожденные должности, получали льготы, имущество, квартиры и первое, что они делали -- закрывали белорусские школы, переводили их на “русский” язык, чтобы их дети могли учиться, не обременяя себя изучением, как они говорили, "никому ненужного" белaруского языка. Таким образом оккупанты создавали в Беларуси "русскоязычное” население". Этноцид, лингвацид, мнемацид и геноцид проводзились большевиками одновременно. Уничтожение белaрусов рaсeйским НКВД продолжалось и во времена немецкой аккупации. В июне 1941 года в первые дни войны коммунисты расстреляли в тюрьмах и на этапах тысячи заключенных. Только в Брестской крепости, где была страшная тюрьма НКВД, всех арестованных ликвидировать не успели, часть из них разбежалась. Тем временем большая группа надзирателей и функционеров НКВД была заблокирована в крепости немцами. Они сидели там около месяца, пока не вымерли. Лет через 20 после войны коммунисты придумали легенду о "героической обороне" Брестской крепости. Обращает на себя внимание тот факт, что широкое советское партизанское движение было организовано только в Беларуси и частично -- на этнических белaруских землях, которые были в составе paсeии (Смоленщина, Брянщина). В оккупированой России партизанского движения не было. Почему? Да потому, что продолжал действовать план уничтожения белорусской нации. Москва, используя органы НКВД, втянула массы гражданского белорусского населения в войну против немцев, и этим подставила белорусов под немецкий удар. Необходимое дело борьбы исходило из коварного замысла и осуществлялось подлыми методами. (Сталин хотел получить двойную выгоду.) Энкавэдисты специально около белорусской деревени убивали немца или делали другую провокацию, чтобы вызвать карательную операцию гитлеровцев (которые обычно сжигали всю деревню, чаще всего -- вместе с людьми). Таким образом, кстати, в результате специальной провокации советских партизан была сожжена и известная Хатынь, которую коммунисты потом в 70-х годах разрекламировали на весь мир как типичную жертву фашистского зверства. В результате такой коммуно-фашистской совместной "работы" в Беларуси сожгли более 9 тысяч деревень. Поэтому к концу войны, в результате специальной операции НКВД, многие белaaруские командиры были посланы на смерть, отстранены от командования, убиты и репрессированы. Их места занимали русские, присланные из Мосвы, и верные энкавэдисты. Летом 1944 года, когда "красная армия" заняла Беларусь, “русские” провели мобилизацию в армию на белaруской территории. Десятки тысяч молодых белaруских мужчин, почти без подготовки, бросили на передовую линию фронта. “pусские” командиры поднимали их в ненужные атаки под огонь немецких пулеметов, не дав даже оружия в руки, или с винтовками, но без патронов. Они гибли тысячами, как трава под косой. А те, что бежали назад, попадали под пули энкавэдистских "заградотрядов". Впрочем, заградотряды стреляли и в спину. Так продолжалось уничтожение белaрусов на войне, руками немцев и “русских” одновременно. Как говорили коммунисты, "в борьбе за советскую родину". В 40-х годах русские вывезли в Сибирь и там замучили всех лесников и так называемых "кулаков" из Западной Беларуси. Вывозили вагонами, по разнорядках.

[@user-sk9oc3kr2q]

То саме з Україною

[@rustr01]

Ужас. А ещё говорят наш Соловьев бешеный со своей пропагандой, но глядя на вас он уже не кажется особо безумным.

[@hybridarmyoffreeworld]

@@rustr01 Свободу колониям орды! Карелия, Саха, Татария, Калмыкия, Чечня и тд

[@hybridarmyoffreeworld]

@@rustr01 There is a reason why in Finnish verb "Ryssiä" (Muscovy ) , roughly meaning "to totally fail something".

[@rustr01]

Не лицемерно ли? Я понимаю, что пропаганда отключает мозг, но сравни уровень жизни населения в бывших колониях Франции и Британии и в «колониях» России. Может быть тогда ты поймёшь что мир не делится на «злых орков» и «благородных эльфов»?

[@jirislavicek9954]

To myself, a Czech person, this law seems absolutely fine and balaced. I think we desperately need similar law in our country. Foreign financed NGOs cause huge damage to our lovely country and Europe as a whole. They are bringing in neo-marxist ideology in a cloak of "liberal democracy". They diguise foreign and corporate interests as grassroots movement. They bring in large scale immigration , LGBT agenda, deindustialisation masked as fight against emissions. I cannot see how Russia can misuse this law, Russian NGOs would have same obligations as western NGOs.

[@mdjey2]

Russia is already misusing this law, because they are the ones who can declare anyone who they don't like as foreign agent. Specifics in law does not matte. Same will be in Georgia. Specifics of law will not matter. It's the sticker.

[@3kkk3]

There is no Russian NGOs, they operate differently and this is one of the problem in Georgia, on that reason this law only suppress western NGOs and its unfair. This is a small part of why this particular law does more harm than good.

[@jirislavicek9954]

@@3kkk3 Yes, your circumstances are bit different. Russia operates through oligarchs and through bribing politicians directly. This law won't affect them much.

[@tekinfomedi]

@@jirislavicek9954 Good day from outside of the region. Maybe we should just let Georgia become NGOland and develop the points you have earlier mentioned. Georgia can position itself as the refuge for Russian LGBTs with the HQ in Gori. 😊😊

[@valeriegillet473]

@@tekinfomedila Géorgie occidentale 😂 remplie d’homosexuels les belles valeurs occidentales 🤢

[@spidif2544]

Thanks very informative

[@vasilimacharadze139]

As a georgian have almost nothing to add. Many thanks for this detailed analize, since russian tries to push its own narrative that unfortunately works so good on some MAGA or western left/right audience.

[@valeriegillet473]

N’importe quoi la Russie n’a rien à foutre de la Géorgie mais jamais elle la laissera intégrer l’OTAN et ça les russes ont raison de le refuser y’a rien en Géorgie qui pourrait intéressé la Russie

[@vasilimacharadze139]

@@valeriegillet473 1. There was no NATO in 1992 when Russia first invaded Georgia. NATO is a result of russian imperialism, not a cause. 2. Not only Georgia - russia is interested in all of the formerly colonized lands (USSR), which Putin views as russian lands (his own words)

[@ccdsds3221]

@@vasilimacharadze139 Georgia literally invaded Abkhazia and started a civil war... Do you seriously think any Superpower would allow their neighbour to wreck havoc and distabilize the already tense region of caucasus?

[@vasilimacharadze139]

@@ccdsds3221 How it may be possible to invade you own land? And who would need a civil war if wast majority there were georgians?

[@ccdsds3221]

@@vasilimacharadze139 it's not your land if you can't enter it without weapons...

[@chaosXP3RT]

It's Ukraine all over again!

[@nobodyherepal3292]

Huh, who would have thought people don’t like being invaded by Russia and would prefer to join the west instead?

[@BoboSLO1]

So.... EU to the Vladivostok??? Or even Japan ?

[@carmelovirgiliolim2984]

European countries have their own economic and financial problems which are caused by US dominance, social problems because of migrations, political problems due to various political ideologies can can not come together to say a few. Why does Georgia wants to be part of such a group? Georgia must learn to be in good relations with its neighbors in Central Asia.

[@Zolotou2604]

Russo-Georgian war was not imperialistic: 1. Who bombed Tshinvali? 2. Russia did not gain any territory after victory. Once again - everyone wants to retroactively blame everything on Russia pre 2022 but it's not so simple. P.s. I respect Georgia and their people.

[@MrLevan.G]

Are you a Russian troll?

[@nobodyherepal3292]

Russia gained 2 Georgian regions after the war.

[@Zolotou2604]

@@nobodyherepal3292 South Ossetia declared independence from Georgia during the 1991-1992 South Ossetia War on 29 May 1992, with its Constitution referring to the "Republic of South Ossetia". Abkhazia declared its independence after its war with Georgia in 1992-1993. Its Constitution was adopted on 26 November 1994. And yeah - South Ossetia and Abkhazia is not part of Russia.

[@MKai134]

Abkhazia and South Ossetia are not Russian nor are they Georgian either

[@bobsayshello7112]

​@@MKai134theyre literally part of georgia.

[@CapitanGeorgai]

As a Georgian I have following you for a long time already. Thanks for such a good video ❤️🇬🇪

[@kirillerofeev6556]

Great video! Good overview on the Georgian situation at the moment. Thank you for spreading the Georgian question to the people so well.

[@darkmatter5424]

Georgia and their rulers willingly bent the knee and submitted themselves to the Russian Empire centuries ago as an act of self-preservation. Russia is simply honoring the pledge Georgian ancestors made by holding on to them. 😅

[@fcabralHult08]

Clash of civilizations. As if Putin’s Russia was a civilization 🤣 A kleptocracy with touches of delusion is not exactly a civilization. It’s the opposite

[@bertrecht913]

Where is Civilisation at all?

[@batrachian149]

@@bertrecht913 Not in the criminal shithole called Russia

[@valeriegillet473]

A group of wild homosexuals cannot be considered a civilisation 😂

[@papabear90]

But it can be argued that by allowing foreign NGOs and civil society it's simply just going into the western grip?

[@SergiuszKubiczek-dy1lb]

"Grip of the civil society" Oh! The horror

[@ccdsds3221]

@@SergiuszKubiczek-dy1lb So you are confirming there are western foreign agents involved. Super.

[@justinmolsal5613]

Is there any wealthy country in Russia’s orbit?

[@kinoonik]

Videos like this are what brought me to this channel. Keep them coming! Cheers!!!

[@behroozkhaleghirad]

Tough luck for them. They have neither the Ukrainian geopolitical depth, nor population, nor fighting experience, nor army, and worst of all, they have no border with NATO.

[@melonmusk6464]

uhh, turkey?

[@Darkseidsolosfiction]

What are you yapping about? Georgian army has fought most wars and won most wars in the region, around 500 I think.

[@behroozkhaleghirad]

@@melonmusk6464 unreliable unpredictable.

[@valeriegillet473]

@@Darkseidsolosfiction😂😂😂

[@JDDC-tq7qm]

​@@Darkseidsolosfictionand still got clapped by Russia in 2008 😂😂

[@marquardtfrickert3939]

Georgia is not even in Europe... I as a German recommend the Georgians not to come to close to the EU, to simply avoid troubles with Russia.

[@TheEinharjar]

Not sure if you noticed but Russia is already threatening to nuke EU countries

[@tamarigabaidze3718]

Georgia is in Europe.

[@marquardtfrickert3939]

@@tamarigabaidze3718 de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa wikipedia says no

[@bobsayshello7112]

Europe and asia are one continent and they refer to cultural differences. Culturally georgia is european .

[@LoneWolf-wp9dn]

Time for the georgians to find those ships that sunk full of weapons off the coast some years ago

[@kimkim-dd4qg]

Why ngo work in politics

[@Moozie420]

Thanks for making about georgia

[@vakhtangnodadze4802]

Thank you for the video. Well explained and documented 🙏🏼

[@IloveDoubleD]

Putie is going to have his hands full.

[@michaelpilos]

Powerful Analysis & Positioning 👍🏼

[@Alex_Urs]

Here in Romania, our first democratically elected president after '89, Ion Iliescu, tried something similar. He was a Moscow-educated apparatchik, our version of Shevernadze or Ivanishvili today. He tried to make an illiberal "original democracy" in Romania, way before Orbán made it "cool". He signed preferential agreements with the USSR in 1990-1991, even as our co-ethnics in Soviet Moldova wanted to break free. And when people protested against his policies, he called miners to beat up protesters. What saved us was the collapse of the USSR. Without this "patron" whom he personally favored, he turned Romania towards NATO and the EU because... Well, that's where the money was. People voted for him as president, not once, not twice, but three times... We are, like Georgians, a country where the majority does not like Russia. But we are, also like Georgia, a society where anti-democratic narratives are popular among a large sector of our society. And if Russia would ever get to our border again, opportunistic elements of our political class would try to do exactly what Bidzina and the Georgian Dream are doing....

[@MMerlyn91]

Taj dreacu' si nu mai vorbi de Iliescu, oaie, nu erai nici macar la nivel de proiect in mintile alor tai cand a iesit Iliescu presedinte prima data, repeti si tu ca papagalul ce auzi pe la altii, vai de capul tau, ca de minte nu putem vorbi.

[@janentomenkafka]

Populist politicians are a problem in every (European) country. They preach the sort of stuff people like to hear, but when they get power they firstly serve themselves... Greetings from Belgium.

[@janentomenkafka]

Populist politicians are a problem in every (European) country. They preach the sort of stuff people like to hear, but when they get power they firstly serve themselves... Greetings from Belgium.

[@_Painted]

Why do Ossetians really want “South Ossetia”? They could obtain a much larger territory eastward without conflict. According to the Ossetian history, their original homeland, when they were called Alans, was in Kazakhstan before they were driven to the Caucasus region by the migration of Huns. The region of northern Kazakhstan is almost unpopulated now and Russia could use their influence in the region to guarantee the safety of Ossetians if they want to resettle their ancient homelands now. They’re fighting over a few miles of rugged mountain territory when they could eventually establish themselves in thousands of miles of territory if they chose to go east instead of south…

[@cyberfunk3793]

It's the type of mentality that is not even that uncommon: rather than packing their bags and simply moving to place they would be welcome start problems in the place they happen to be at that moment, no matter how they got there.

[@davidthebuilder8702]

Because they are Russian tools and love to live like that, when the Chechens and Ingush people were deported in the 50’s by Stalin , Ossetians and Georgians were moved to their lands. After a couple of decades, the deported were allowed to go back home, Georgians who lived in Ingush and Chechens homes gave back the lands to their owners peacefully and until this day Ingush remember this with much love, Ossetians in the other hand didn’t so it broke out a conflict that is still on going until day, Ossetians mock Ingush for losing East Prigorodny ( the disputed territory) were Ingush people claim legitimate their stolen homes…..

[@mcboat3467]

This is Israeli ideology

[@_Painted]

@@mcboat3467 Do you mean my ideology (saying the Alans could retake their undeveloped original homeland) or the South Ossetians' (fighting over low-quality land instead of looking for better opportunities)? I can see the similarities on both sides of the argument.

[@meteorknight999]

​@@_Paintedthen you support putin taking the homeland of russ in ukr really ?

[@dosmastrify]

Yaaaay hubert!

[@stevenjohnston7809]

It's crazy to watch Russia try to hold onto power.

[@srj607able]

Just imagine what all the young Russians people that are in Georgia to escape the war draft... Now you understand why Georgia wants to be in the EU...

[@Sp4nX383]

Actually not because this was nearly 2 years ago and many people came back already to RUssia. And didn't get into the army because its long ago

[@alfredpetrossian3036]

Discontent is not by Georgia or in in the interest of the country, but corrupt charters serving foreign interests. Ask, if you want to be another Ukraine under Georgian Zelensky?

[@DrumToTheBassWoop]

i can never trust a guy with a name ending with *willy*

[@Scrooge1erAOA]

If you get paid from abroad, you must declare it, end of story. Other countries even in the EU have similar laws whats the big problem?

[@arcrimeaball]

Long live Sakartvelo 🇬🇪🇪🇺

[@varaneckas1994]

Creator is definitely pro EU. Unfollowed. You should be neutral

[@nobodyherepal3292]

Bye bye 👋

[@Wisterroll]

@@nobodyherepal3292 Objectivity is out of the chat

[@whangareiheads5289]

With the west no act again - answer is YES.

[@ugiswrong]

I play this music when checking mouse traps

[@konsyjes]

Well fucking said. Great work guys.

[@FarsightAE]

It'll fail eventually and when it does I bet the guy will flee to russia immediately

[@amunra5330]

The CIA has been busy in Georgia

[@1Reddd]

Poland did it, Latvia and Lithuania did it, Estonia did it, and Georgia can do it too. You can escape Russia's grasp. Don't give up, young Georgians. You are the future of your country.

[@murrayeldred3563]

Great comments but Georgia isn't in Europe geographically only in the Eurovision song contest.

[@anthonymanderson7671]

20% of georgia's land is located in europe which makes the nation european.

[@tamarigabaidze3718]

Georgia is in Europe

[@bobsayshello7112]

Its one continent. Terms europe and asia refer to cultural differences and culturally georgia is European.

[@ccdsds3221]

@@anthonymanderson7671 those lands are independent now...

[@hybridarmyoffreeworld]

Свободу колониям орды! Карелия, Саха, Татария, Калмыкия, Чечня и тд

[@Wisterroll]

Охуели?

[@rdw9747]

They must be mad wanting to join the EU.

[@Wisterroll]

No

[@jilldezwart2533]

Thankyou it is yet another presentation that shows how much influence Russia has on it neighbour. Putin wanted all his neighbour not to join NATO or EU, not because they were a threat to Russia, but when he felt confident enought he could just walk over them and reestablish the USSR.

[@basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t7126]

If you're against a bill that works against foreign influence, that means you support foreign influence.

[@janentomenkafka]

The question is whether the law is meant to stop foreign influence or to stop internal opposition. I mean, we in Belgium don't have such a law and I don't think we are more influenced by "foreign agents" than any other country.

[@snakeshake7381]

dont you think youre dumbing it down a little with this comment?

[@janentomenkafka]

@@snakeshake7381 How much nuance can you put in a comment ? In my opinion the original post "if you are against that law you support foreign influence" is dumbing things down a lot more. Asking about the real purpose of that law is a pertinent question.

[@snakeshake7381]

@@janentomenkafka my reply was to the op,not you

[@janentomenkafka]

@@snakeshake7381 Oops, my bad.

Check your source, Abkhazia was free of Georgian control since 1993

[@sabalomidze9166]

check your brain

[@levan7314]

hahaha! Check your brain, its not accessible!

[@Icenri]

I'd like to think that "Caspain Sea" is a dig on Caspian Report.

[@BoboSLO1]

KURWAšvili 😮

[@ByZHellas]

I don’t get this law, it applies to Russian and Western influence, it literally just lets you know how much a foreign actor (again, Western or Russian) has in Georgia. It’s not a Russian law, and if anything it’s a good thing as it helps inform people of the third parties working within their nation instead of having parties being secretly funded in mass amounts by foreign entities.

[@tekinfomedi]

Simple. The pro-Westerners desperately want to be ruled by Western NGOs. They keep talking about the Western future.

[@valeriegillet473]

The objective is to fool you because someone who thinks must realise that this law is good for Georgia but Western propaganda does wonders in the brains of thousands of people

[@Ailasher]

Yeah. Because the European market is wide open for Georgian goods. Every French resident dreams of a bottle of Borjomi or good Georgian wine. Oh, wait! Of course, there is a "Russian grip" here, when the Russian authorities have imperialist interests. But at the same time, the hypocrisy of the "free world non-propagandists" does impress me every time: because Eastern Europe, with few exceptions, like Poland, has clearly shown what the EU needs it for: as a market for its goods and a source of cheap labor, nothing more.

[@orcho141]

If the arrangement wasn't mutually beneficial between Eastern Europe and the EU, which it demonstrably is, then they can always part ways with the EU. Same can't be said about Russia though

[@Ailasher]

@@orcho141 In a world of unicorns and walking rainbows, sure. But not in reality. In the real world, even a simple "association" with the EU requires a lot from the country in terms of economic restructuring, opening of customs borders, incorporation into the quota system of products and other things. Of course, will be those who will directly benefit from it. Just like in Russia under Putin. It only works one way for "some" reason.

[@Ailasher]

@@orcho141 But here's a funny thing: Russia wants approximately the same thing: opening of customs borders, access to the investment market aka buying up all more or less valuable local assets with their mandatory privatization, as well as direct access to market for Russian products, with offsetting in Russian currency, ideally. Only I fail to understand how this colonialism is worse than European colonialism. Because Putin is a bad dictator? As if his boot on a throat of the Georgian people will be worse than the boot of bureaucrats from Brussels and EU corps? Seriously?

[@Ailasher]

@@orcho141 If that's the case, it must be a lousy job: explaining why a turd sandwich is better than a giant douche.

[@janentomenkafka]

Agriculture is a sensitive point. Belgian farmers fear cheaper (more sun) Spanish tomatoes, French vineyards fear cheaper Italian and Spanish wine, and so on. But in the end they always find a compromise. I don't think Georgian wine would be a real obstacle. The EU started as a purely economic organisation. First the trade agreement BeNeLux (between Belgium, Netherlands and Luxemburg). Then came the European union for coal and steel (BENELUX plus Germany, France and Italy). That evolved in a broader economic union with the same six countries. Gradually more countries wanted to join what now has become the EU. Nobody was ever forced to join. On the contrary, countries are eager to join. Cheap labour. Yeah well... West European countries pay twice. They pay more into the EU than they receive, plus Western companies often struggle to compete with cheaper Eastern companies. But the Eastern countries become gradually richer. As you noticed, Polish products are now as expensive as Belgian products and the salaries are (almost) similar. I suggest you compare median salaries in Poland, Baltic states, Czech republic and so on with the median salaries in the Eurasian Economic Union (Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan and so on). Then you will understand why Georgians and Ukrainians prefer to join the EU.

[@vseznamus8862]

Haha funny polish noises

[@Viperzka]

What a great speech!