Google Nexus Q: DIED IN A MONTH! - Krazy Ken’s Tech Talk

[@ComputerClan]

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[@ScribbleAllDay]

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[@MACBoricua]

As always you nailed it with history of these devices! Thanks so much!

[@deathsnitemaresinfullust2269]

I like the design but it seems like the kind of thing that was redundant and outdated the minute they started putting it together. 😅👍

[@zabobloxgamingoffical]

this was uploaded 9 hours ago.. HOWW

[@deathsnitemaresinfullust2269]

@@zabobloxgamingoffical haa! I just noticed, how odd. Maybe it was posted before the video went public?🤷‍♂️

[@Thoughtlesskyle]

Unofficial on the build name doesn't mean that it was unsupported by Google, it means that it wasn't an official device in the CyanogenMod Repo. the CM repo meant it was getting nightlies from build bots, had an official maintainer, and also met a minimum level of support/quality.

[@RTheren]

Yup. I'd say it's an important distinction.

[@Razzbow]

This guy Androids.

[@smartnima]

I was Just about to comment that :)

[@ComputerClan]

Thank you. I added clarification in the description and in a pop-up card in the episode.

[@Ordlnary_Gamer]

@@ComputerClanthe man the q the nexus himself

[@mikedoeschot2560]

I worked a company specializing in print graphics, engraving, and pad printing. Google commissioned us to imprint the Nexus Q logo on cables intended for demo units of the Q, which were quite impressive. The cables featured braided cable with anodized plugs. Upon receiving a spec sheet detailing the logo requirements, I produced a sample for their approval. However, when four young guys arrived for inspection, they expressed dissatisfaction, stating, "This is not what we were thinking." Despite nailing specifications, they insisted, "We are not using those specs." These guys appeared intelligent and motivated, but it became evident that none of them had prior manufacturing experience. I was not surprized when the whole thing was cancled.

[@eval_is_evil]

Wow, the sheer arrogance of those guys.

[@CaribouEno]

Actually I have a Nexus Q, I was one of the ones having gotten it for free. I was able to actually run my own software on it and it is now a stylish bluetooth speaker with a not that bad audio amplifier - better than all those "speakers" around. A monitor connected to the HDMI port (small screen) shows playlists on my NAS etc. It is a stylish thing on my rack in the bedroom.

[@kg790]

You have a server rack in the bedroom?

[@LoneWanderer905]

What software/FW are you running?

[@headerahelix]

​@@kg790Guy's smart, free integrated white noise machine.

[@lemonofish869]

@@kg790 Who doesn't? (/s but for the record I do have a server rack in my bedroom)

[@arthilas_]

I like the Q's design too, but I don't get why they gave it banana plug outputs instead of cinch and headphones jack. If you use cheap speakers, they often use a headphones jack for connection, and if you are using better speakers, you want to use a dedicated amplifier setup/AV receiver anyways - to which you would need to connect the Q with cinch, XLR or something like that. And if you want to connect wired headphones to the Q, you would need a headphones jack. For that reason, it would simply not work in my current setup. I already have an amplifier for my hi-fi speakers (using bare wires instead of banana plugs), to which the TV, HTPC, turntable... are connected. I would need the device to be connected to the amplifier too - but the Q lacks cinch output (the amp's optical already is used by the TV). If I would connect the speakers directly to the Q, I would have, first of all, terrible sound (there is a reason hi-fi equipment is expensive), and second, I would be unable to use them for anything but the Q.

[@leiflang8097]

It makes me so happy to see you use Technology Connections as your airplay demo!

[@Squonk06]

Same. I was hoping somebody else would notice.

[@cjc363636]

We need a "Tech Trio" of Computer Clan, Technology Connections, and Techmoan..... Whenever Tech gets out of hand, call the Tech Trio!!

[@jasongronn6764]

I noticed and scrolled down to see if anyone else noticed Honestly, it would be super cool if TC themselves were to reply to this video xD

[@iansanchez1470]

hope Alec won't copyright strike his video

[@mizu_the_floatzel]

It's actually pretty funny. My dad's closest friend was at that event in 2012 and well when my dad went to go visit him for work one time it was sitting in his office just sitting there as a paperweight 😂 He didn't even know how to use it properly.

[@kg790]

Ironically he was using it properly

[@NorthshireGaming]

He was ahead of his time.

[@kg790]

Judging by the video intro and comments, Ken is also a head

[@Daniil0011]

I was NOT ready to see Technology Connections on here. Two of my favourite KZbinrs in one place holy shit

[@thetechsavvy01]

I concur

[@SVW1976]

That guys a Legend.

[@antikommunistischaktion]

14:30 Unofficial didn't mean it was because Google didn't support it. Unofficial means it was an unofficial CyanogenMod build; either this means CM didn't support the device or someone compiled an unofficial build for whatever reason. This was a CyanogenMod ROM that someone ported to the Nexus Q, compiled, and distributed themselves. Other tags that CM had were experimental, nightly, and snapshot. If it was a fully official stable build it lacked a tag at all. So for example if this was an official build it'd be named simply CM-11-steelhead without the extra tagging.

[@plapbandit]

This. Good old community builds

[@ComputerClan]

Thank you. I added clarification in the description and in a pop-up card in the episode.

[@PaulGillingwater]

​@@ComputerClan11:25

[@thebasspwns]

Surprised he didn’t bring up the Chromecast audio. I’ve found it very helpful getting streaming audio into my existing stereo systems. It was cheap and didn’t have any video and was also discontinued

[@SpiceFox]

I still have two of those. I absolutely loved mine back when I used it and I am still salty that they discontinued such a fantastic product

[@ZebyWebby]

Fun fact: The "UNOFFICIAL" file name on the zip file means that the CyanogenMod team didnt make the custom rom for it. And it was mostly made by developers that aren't from the team to give other devices the rom. There are some that means "Nightly" which basically means its more for like beta builds.

[@QuillC]

Ah nightlies 🤩 would the camera app work? Probably not. But was it worth it? Rarely, weeklies were way more stable and still had lots of new features long time before stable build, but there's that element of excitement flashing a nightly that you just can't get elsewhere.

[@ZebyWebby]

remembered using nightlies for my galaxy s4 when i was 8. Damn i miss those times

[@LiliumOrientalis]

​@@QuillCWorks: - Bluetooth (kinda) - IR Not works: - You tell me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Good times 😂

[@yungcrowley1366]

I gotta admit at the start when he stopped doing the fish eye lens effect thing, he face didn’t get any less round it was just. Less zoomed in

[@bashkillszombies]

I watch this man solely to ponder at his magnificent dome. He looks like someone screwed the wrong head on the wrong body. It's so utterly perplexing that no one ever address or talks about how significantly ahead in his field this guy is!

[@bit4795]

"UNOFFICIAL" actually refers to it not being an officially maintained Cyanogenmod build. If it was officially maintained by someone, it would've been called official

[@antikommunistischaktion]

It would have actually lacked a build tag entirely unless it was a nightly or snapshot.

[@Klatchan]

Fun fact, Google liked naming ChomeOS releases after Final Fantasy characters. I remember seeing Tidus, Yuna, and Terra.

[@ChaseMC215]

Imagine if they named their next ChromeOS released Tifa

[@21stcenturyrambo16]

@@ChaseMC215 Italy's #1 OS.

[@johnnykeys1978]

Chrome... and their Qualcomm "Adreno" 🤔

[@headerahelix]

​@@johnnykeys1978Google does not own Qualcomm, what are you talking about. Conspiracy theorists like you turn any fun and innocent topic into the most brain braindead BS ever. 🙄

[@caboose5313]

Isn't there a steam/valve project codenamed Aerith and Sephiroth?

[@xpdev0]

This WAS reused for the Google Nest years later

[@pugzgamez8891]

I was gonna comment this lol

[@adagioleopard6415]

I mean... They don't have audio output, which that has

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

Was it reused? In general, a much higher percentage of killed Google projects where they subsequently bring in another one involve them binning everything and starting from scratch (yes, I'm still salty about them killing GPM and replacing it with the far inferior YT Music)

[@W1ldTangent]

There must be at least one Nest device using the same CPU, there's a few bits and pieces in the Git repo for devices with that platform.

[@TubeTimeUS]

mostly no, the original A@H team was dissolved a few months after the cancellation and the Nest folks preferred to use their own in-house solutions.

[@DanielleWhite]

At the time of the unveiling I was friends with a bunch of Google employees who said that they had early units and would go on to say how they couldn't understand why the market didn't love the device. That combined with experiences from being recruited by Google at time I came to see how cult-ish working there clearly was.

[@TempoLOOKING]

Black cube of Saturn

[@h8GW]

I think a very significant part of the tech industry can be described as "cult-ish" at times -especially if you work for or use a competitor-

[@SuperPussyFinger]

They serve a lot of Kool-Aid at Google.

[@nuvotion-live]

I was not expecting much at first, but learning it has a 25W amp with banana plugs, is theoretically hackable, and has a music visualizer... super cool! I want one! This is actually a really cool product.

[@TubeTimeUS]

ah the memories. the "orbiting comet" boot animation is actually my own code written in about 5 minutes with the managers looking over my shoulder 😅

[@ComputerClan]

You made the boot animation? : o

[@TubeTimeUS]

@@ComputerClan yup! and the cap sense touch sensor on the top of the dome, and i spent days and days tuning the NFC antenna to increase the range. i've got stories lol

[@darktetor]

@@TubeTimeUS Please share more! :O love hearing from people who worked on these kind of things.

[@FlotterOttoOfficial]

Please, we need a second video with your stories!

[@Toasty_videos]

@@FlotterOttoOfficialyes

[@TheRailroad99]

I think this was most likely meant as a tech demo. Basically all parts where recycled - In-house manufacturing (gained expertise) - software (> Chromecast) - hardware (> nest hub, Chromecast)

[@theoldgamer2612]

5:25 I noticed there's BANANA behind u.. 🤣 it wasn't there before.. 😂

[@claudiobizama5603]

Love the commitment of using the round head of the entire length of the video.

[@dgwdgw]

Today I learned that the Q and Stadia had two things in common beyond the obvious "got canceled" factor: Both restricted users to content purchased from Google instead of allowing use of third party storefronts, and both devices ended up being free to the people who bought them. It just took a bit longer in Stadia's case, but Google did refund all those controllers.

[@silversonic1]

Audio equipment also tends to be more expensive, especially when there's an amp involved.

[@PeterBellefleur]

Yep, compare it to a Sonos Connect today and it's a bargain.

[@vylbird8014]

Not so much any more. Look at the specifications shown in the video: Class D amp. The audiofools might turn up their noses at the tech, but class D amps are quite the revolution in consumer audio: They are cheap to make, and so efficient you don't need a big expensive heatsink. That's how the Q is able to fit a low-cost amplifier into such a compact device.

[@aeriumsoft]

But what if there's an imp involved?

[@Velarieth]

I gotta say, there's a really underrated thing you do in these videos that needs to be more widely done. You define abbreviations! Seriously, why don't more people do this?

[@accik]

Very much liked that you showed the CM installation! Very accurate and on point. Would like to see more Google killed products!

[@xeroniris]

When you implement Google's Widevine DRM, the development test streams include the launch video for the Nexus Q, and the video file is called "oops".

[@Charl1e39]

13:34 The banana phone link just leads to his patreon.

[@tjnucnuc]

This was kinda the tail end of when Google/Android was at the top of their game. Encouraging hackability and open development. Speaking of Nexus the Nexus S4G was an amazing phone. I still remember Google allowing us testers to try beta NFC contactless payments back in late 2011 and people being blown away by it. I miss those days!!!

[@Toothily]

The Nexus Q was the shiny expensive object I wanted. The Chromecast Audio is the device I could actually afford to buy, and still works great to this day.

[@AzraelEnterprise]

I've never heard of this product. But the idea that I can scan my CD collection into the speaker and listen to it is amazing and needs to be a product.

[@KaranSingh-np6mx]

Some inconsistencies: androidtv is not rebranded as Google TV. Google TV can be considered as a slightly feature richer version of androidtv. Both coexist side by side. They mention 55M chromecast and chromecast built-in devices. This includes, and is not limited to, chromecast, androidtv devices, GoogleTV devices.

[@pankoza]

Yeah, the new TV box that came with my internet provider when I moved out still came with Android TV rather than the new Google TV

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

I had a neighbor with one. I'm sure they appreciated having Safety Dance added to their playlist several times per day.

[@OneeBaka1337]

im almost upset when the line came up "what happened next?" it wasn't "What happened nex...us" lolol

[@hof_prod]

I love how much of the Tech Today is inspired from the small features it offered.

[@Blzut3]

Honestly the $299 price might not be that crazy if you view the device as a two channel amp for discrete speakers rather than a simple streaming box. Not sure what the audio quality was, but I do know that there are two channel streaming amps that cost way more (Sonos Amp for example). Now with that said that doesn't change anything about the feature set being a bit lackluster for the price.

[@Robert-zz7qj]

I was thinking the same thing, but then you have to admit that the target audience for this device probably doesn't know the difference between active and passive speakers. On the other hand, people who do know would be put off by the low price, as they are used to spending thousands of dollars on their audio experience.

[@Alexlfm]

It’s still outrageous to most consumers when, even in 2012 you could get a surround amp for that price. These days you can get a full Atmos receiver or a tube amp for $300. Sure some people will pay more for stuff like Sonos but it’s a small segment of the market. Fundamentally Google is/was never in a position, brand wise, to sell a device like that. At that price point it’s all about marketing and having a slick UI both things Google are bad at.

[@DenilsonSa]

I remember in that announcement event, they said on stage "We didn't want to make a(nother) black box…" Which is ironic, as they instead made a black sphere.

[@DeadPixel1105]

0:59 This guy doesn't think that awful toupee is actually fooling anyone does he? If you're going to wear a hair piece, why would you pick the most ridiculous and fake-looking hair piece you can find?

[@ColePerrine]

The OG Chromecast was the first thing I ever ordered online. Got it when I was 13 and just found it in my old room. My brother and I ran that thing into the dirt. What a great little device.

[@davep5698]

Hey finally a baked in ad for somthing I might actually buy. about time, its only been.... the entire time ive been on youtube.

[@raiden9250]

Hearing cyanogen and clockwork mod brings back so many memories of my much loved HTC hd2!

[@pankoza]

I still have the Android-based little brother of the HD2 - the Original HTC Desire

[@raiden9250]

@pankoza my hd2 have up the beans a couple years ago. I loved it up until then and still do!

[@RarelyReplies]

Love your videos. Every time I see the product I think “Oh Yeah! Forgot all about that.”

[@hectorg5809]

It's certainly not a contest or anything but this is the first product of his where I've thought, "Wow, I completely forgot about this!"

[@RarelyReplies]

@@hectorg5809 k

[@LePedant]

I'm still really upset about Domains being canned. I love how integrated it was with Google Sites, and Workspaces. I hate that Squarespace is my domain register now. :/

[@itsjrStudios]

I liked the Kronos-style termination animation. Nice reference to The Incredibles!

[@deadalusshadowduck]

I really enjoyed this episode! Thank you and I love the Spongebob reference!!! 🤩

[@Mario583a]

Some employee at Google: Welcome to Google Nexus, [...], and best of all, it is spherical. _SPHERICAL_

[@SVW1976]

11:49 Hey! I know that guy! He taught me all about incandescent light bulbs, extension cords, kerosene lamps, air conditioners, etc... Love that guy!

[@travit666]

6:23 dude looks like a toddler but also an old man at the same time what the hell

[@delllaptop6958]

Got a big ole smile out of me since you caught me watching on a gen 2 chromecast

[@rustkitty]

Why did it fail? Because Google was busy pondering it instead of developing software support.

[@Alexlfm]

Nah. The price killed it from the beginning. Even if it supported everything, when you could get a streamer and an amp for the same price it’s pointless.

[@rustkitty]

@@Alexlfm brah, I was just making a "pondering my orb" reference.

[@AhCxden]

You should have more subscribers already! I love all your videos, and started watching you in 2018.

[@RockerAce67]

Love your videos! Looking forward to the next.

[@Iggy1008]

I don’t remember when I subbed but I liked this video. It was very detailed, informative, fun to watch and entertaining. You guys should make a video about what killed the sega genesis!

[@ComputerClan]

Thanks for watching!

[@lokifishmarz]

This brings back memories. I was an Android dev when it was released, and received one in 2012. At the time I was doing 'fringe' development projects (Motorola's Webtop to full on Ubuntu), and was crazy enough to even release tuned custom ROMs to expand it's capabilities. In essence, it ended up being my first Android 'TV' device once I got done with it. What's funny is the Q is one of the few things I STILL have from my time as a developer.

[@MARVINMU]

How do I put it...... Extremely Well Written episode!! I've been watching for a while, but this video is a turning point! Telling a story not just reviewing like most other channels, well done! Subscribe!

[@Dubmayer]

Krazy Ken at it's best - I just knew your guy would call you during this video! Comedy 100%

[@Soundwave142]

I would buy a product that was designed and made in the US even though it would be a little more expensive. I think what jacked the price so high up there is the Nexus Q's built in amp. P.S. Even when I was little I always wonder why was pretty much everything made in China? I asked my Mom and she told me because it was cheaper. I did not ask why it was cheaper then, but I found out years later why, not just because we are being screwed over by the PRC.

[@DGTelevsionNetwork]

Ah yes, thank you United postal Union! We love how you screw up economies in the Americas and help fund international terrorism!

[@donotryon9389]

The same reason things are cheaper in USA compared to other countries too - slave labor, slave wages, zero employee protections, zero environmental protections etc.

[@Soundwave142]

@@donotryon9389 True but one flaw, if these are the same reasons, why are there still barely anything made in the USA?

[@TubeTimeUS]

the amp wasn't very expensive. the mechanical design wasn't cost reduced and was very hard to build, that increased the cost quite a bit.

[@Soundwave142]

@@TubeTimeUS That makes sense.

[@BarretKruse]

5:39 I got some groceries, some peanut butter To last a couple of days But I ain't got no speakers, ain't got no headphones Ain't got no records to play

[@truealchiemist]

The instant I saw CM I knew it was going to be a memory trip for me. I used to mod all my Android devices with them until they stopped making them. Man I wish I could run a new CM on my phone.

[@2elw]

It’s called lineageos now

[@scrappBird]

​@@2elwNo, LineageOS is a mod of CyanegonMod.

[@PeterShipley1]

yeah same here, it was the only way to get modern features on your phone back then

[@DELTARYZ]

You can. It's been renamed to LineageOS but it's still the same project.

[@Firevine]

I miss these days. OEM's and carriers have made it an utter nightmare. That said, they seem to have lessened the bloatware that made it a necessity in the first place.

[@nickadimouse1]

Thanks Ken , great and informative video. Have a great 2024 my friend..

[@tsalVlog]

I didn't pre-order a Q, but I wanted to save up for one and was sad when it was "delayed". I did become an early adopter of the chromecast, though.

[@dilkclub]

the ball popped off and he looked the same lmao

[@ivanlimzg]

Great video! The Chromecast will look at it's ancestors and appreciate them so much more

[@temikus]

I used to work at Google when this thing came out - you have no idea how much effort went into quality audio hardware for this thing. It’s such a shame this thing was cancelled. Everyone was super bummed.

[@Caretak007]

I still have my Nexus Q, collecting dust in my basement. Maybe now I can give it a second life. There was an attempt in 2014 but the software mods were not amateur yet.

[@robot_madness3164]

small correction and/or notice: the pixel brand was introduced in 2013 with the gen1 Chromebook pixel, and the gen2 in 2015 but not the phone line from 2016

[@samholland209]

Can you talk about the Amazon Fire Phone failure?

[@CamStLouis]

Hi Ken, can you add "All Videos" to your KZbin home page? KZbin removed the "play all" from "all videos" so I can't watch all of your content in order

[@5274jacob]

i couldnt tell when he stopped turning his head into an orb.

[@Stevo.100]

Google really loves the cloud and not giving a local option, that paired with their love of ending support for products means if you buy a google product chances are high you bought an expensive paperweight.

[@philtkaswahl2124]

There is something oddly satisfying about seeing it opened up and looking at those bearings at work.

[@mehmetmetinbaki]

3:50 Saying it was free is a little misleading considering that ticket prices of Google IO were over 1100 USD.

[@richardphile1011]

Love the incredibles reference in the “terminated” Google projects at the beginning!

[@Daniel-Marson]

That battery looks awesome. I got an anker prime 200w a1336 power bank for use with my ROG Ally, its an amazing battery.

[@BillyBobDingledorf]

Interesting how the social aspect expected people to actually socialize IN PERSON.

[@Henchman1977]

To add to the list of Google apps taken out behind the shed.... My favourite, Latitude.

[@ChrisLincoln]

Man, I really liked Wave, though a lot of it lives on in Chats and Docs

[@mutestingray]

I was too young at the time to really buy this, but I remember people back then lamenting its uselessness and price.

[@MohamedLaisaanHamdhoon]

21:34 R.I.P Chromecast 2013-2024 Chromecast was killed on 6th August 2024…

[@IcebergTech]

"Why did Google kill you?" (shakes Nexus Q, turns it over)

[@hinken24]

Tungsten is swedish and means heavy stone. But in Sweden and many other countries they use the german word Wolfram. Hence the ”W”.

[@ThatoneNB12]

It’s kinda interesting the ways google goes about letting you enter fastboot mode on their different devices.

[@dragonkyng]

Technology Connections mention!

[@kyb7795]

16:45 My ears blinked and I missed it

[@josephpetty2268]

If this had launched with Google Cast, this wouldve been an absolute gamechanger in the market. Solid hardware, great audio experience, beautiful presentation and intuitive controls. The $299 price wouldve still been too high, but slot this thing in at maybe $149.99 and it most definitely wouldve sold.

[@baitboy3191]

its spherical....SPHERICAL

[@vb7200]

if you look at it as a device that's only gonna be used for music, it's actually not a bad device. Sonos would be it's biggest competitor, and I think if Google and stuck to that they would've done better with it. A Sonos Amp which is the closest thing to the Q that they offer, costs like $200 more and does less. If they had gone for that it would be a pretty good alternative to a device like that.

[@TubeTimeUS]

sonos was considered the main competition.

[@feefre]

That 0.5 seconds of the apple music demo was almost like hearing the first 4 notes of megalovania

[@ngwoo]

Hard to be upset about a failed product when nobody actually paid any money for it. Good on em for just giving them away.

[@kg790]

Did I understand correctly that you successfully streamed video to it using AirPlay from an iPhone? If so...how? I thought devices had to license AirPlay for that to work? At least Kodi can't do it for any video source later than iOS 9, so I doubt there are any open solutions.

[@xEqualsRandom]

I think AirPlay Video must have been reverse-engineered again since then, since the app he used in the video is not the only app that can set up a "fake" AirPlay server.

[@Weegeeguy208]

I was waiting for him to undo the orb effect on his head but then I realized his head is just incredibly spherical

[@braddofner]

Ooooo, that segway was smooooooth. Good one!

[@headerahelix]

Segue, brother.

[@Grymyrk]

The speaker outputs seem a bit weird. They would add a lot of extra cost and I bet most people wouldn't use them. This product was probably geared to complete with streaming amplifiers.

[@KmF0X]

On today's episode : Ken pondering the orb

[@Maleko48]

that final scene was pure gold. 😂 love me some Patrick Star

[@regularperson9965]

i cant get over that guys hair

[@Chaoticmass]

I remember when this came out-- the built in amp was part of the positioning, that it was more of a hifi home theater device than a gadget

[@Chaoticmass]

Which was really kind of confusing-- as a hifi guy, I already had an amp. And if you didn't have an amp, you probably didn't have speakers that needed an amp.

[@DrLiquid]

Oh come on SpongeBob! You know, I wumbo, You wumbo, He she me wumbo, wumbo, Wumboing, We'll have thee wumbo, Wumborama, Wumbology, The study of wumbo? It's first grade SpongeBob!

[@Liiineeepiiieeeceee]

9:55 how about giving away thousands of them? Dumbass idea if they were hoping to make it up by trippling the price later... Seems like the main one too after all as opposed to inhouse manufacturing which can get cheated to cut costs

[@captainrag]

Nexus Q successor was actually the Chromecast audio. That came out during the 2nd Gen refresh of the Chromecast. Now Chromecast Audio was discontinued few years ago. In favor of ok Google's products like speakers from 3rd parties. Eventually it got folded in with the Google's Nest hubs and speakers line now.

[@jldpittman]

INCREDIBLE intro… 😝

[@jasonmccann8023]

The end of the video has been the highlight of my day 😂 😂 😂 😂 W for Wumbo