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@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
@@green9227 you mean qhd+?
@erikhaluzak1237 ай бұрын
You're just a consumer fan boy! Just, constantly thinking about what's in the best interest of the buyer... We see you keep it up dude.
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
I try anyway. Thanks a lot! 🤲
@Marcstang047 ай бұрын
If I wanted a Pixel phone and couldn't afford the 8 Pro(256 GB) I would go for the 8(256 GB), the 8 is a much better phone for similar money.
@givingyousportsfrommyview6 ай бұрын
The 8 Is $200 more fam.. you would basically be paying for whichever phone you like tbh
@stubman68677 ай бұрын
The A series needs to be a budget device. Why can't Google build the A series to a budget price? Forget about the slow wireless charging. Forget about the 120 Hz display. Forget about whatever it takes to bring the phone in at 399. If Nothing can build a solid device that comes in at 349, not sure why Google can't get the A series in at 399.
@damianescobedo17017 ай бұрын
I got mine for 349 at my us celluar
@LaughOutLouie887 ай бұрын
That's a good deal @@damianescobedo1701
@DeusRegum7 ай бұрын
Because then you would get the people who expect Pro features in the A lineup. You know this is true. That's why it's hard for them to balance cost and features. Because for any one reasonable person who thinks like us, there are at least twice as many who are shameless, frugal, and will expect super high features at bargain bin prices.
@stubman68677 ай бұрын
Very true. Remember all the bitching about the 6a?
@ToastyTexan9117 ай бұрын
@@DeusRegumwhat pro features does this have? Don’t even say the tensor g3 it’s terrible 😂😂
@christopherjasso7 ай бұрын
picked up mine for $299 - on google fi with a pixel 6a trade in,,, it was a no brainer for me at that price. arrives today
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
That's a good deal
@HippoMathicc7 ай бұрын
8a or 8 pro? I can get the 8a for 280€, (been one plus phones owner since 2015) never owned a pixel before. thoughts?
@christopherjasso7 ай бұрын
@@HippoMathicc 8a... Love it so far, great phone
@christopherjasso7 ай бұрын
@@HippoMathicc the 8 pro is a fantastic phone.. if you do any video or photography work and the Pro is within budget... That would be a great choice... But for 299 I couldn't beat it
@jayh405157 ай бұрын
Bezels on the 8a doesn't look bad to me. The Se 4, whenever it comes out will probably have about the same size bezels and cost more money.
@fboost6 ай бұрын
Its just the typical KZbin hate train. like seriously if they were any smaller they would be the same as the pixel 8. The A series should not look identical to the flagship.
@mkedidas7 ай бұрын
I hate the price argument. We all know the 8a will be $400 in a month in which it will be a great value. And if you get it for $300 on Fi, it is an unbeatable deal.
@tedlessor38877 ай бұрын
You will get it for free after two year with google fi😅
@HippoMathicc7 ай бұрын
damn... you convinced me.
@givingyousportsfrommyview6 ай бұрын
Right like I get it but I don't because people who are looking into the 8a are google fans and can definitely decide which one makes the most sense for them
@3rdWorldNola6 ай бұрын
but fi seems kinda high for the monthly service?
@robertwilsoniii20487 ай бұрын
The bezels are due to rigid oled vs flexible oled, but I'll tell you it's a blessing in disguise because the 8a does not tint towards blue-green at low brightness the way pixel 8 does because the panel hardware is different and the 8a screen can go dimmer in dark rooms giving the 8a display a higher real world contrast ratio than the 8. The Sony image sensors on the 8a also have wider color gamuts than the Samsung sensors on the 8, and the processor in the 8a is underclocked so the battery lasts an hour longer than the 8 and the slower charging speeds on the 8a will protect battery longevity for 7 years better than the 8. You'll also get 6 months of more software updates on the 8a than the 8. The 8a is the better phone, all things considered.
@andrewcrampton-c5p6 ай бұрын
I've never really understood the obsession with a glass back on a phone. It's a huge negative in my opinion. It just means it breaks easier and requires you to put it in a case - so you can't even see the glass back. Plastic is more durable, lighter, and doesn't need a case to protect it.
@omegathan7 ай бұрын
My 4a is dying very quickly. Really considering picking this up. I'd love to wait for a sale but when my phone needs charging 3-4x a day, it's getting tough to wait for the 8 to drop in price.
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
Wow. Yeah that’s pretty bad
@AndroidDigest7 ай бұрын
This happens with almost every phone launch. At the launch, if you compared to all the other devices on sale, of course it's not going to be a great deal. But like you said, and just a few months it's going to be around 300 Bucks and the pixel 8 will be like 500. I never try to judge a device off the retail price alone, but I try to predict the market in a couple months. And in a couple months this will be a really good deal
@fboost6 ай бұрын
In Australia if you get the 8A on a plan it is literally half price! best phone out for 250usd.
@nccapone3447 ай бұрын
Wondering if the Pixel 8a is the last of the A series ? 🤔 If Pixel , is coming out with 3 different pixel 9 series sizes & 3 different prices. Would it make any sense to have a Pixel 9a in May 2025 ? 😁
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
It needs to be the last
@nccapone3447 ай бұрын
@TechOdyssey Exactly 💯 Looks like it could be for sure! I think it's a smart move especially when the 9 series is the beginning of three different sizes. How could you go wrong 🥳 People can't complain now about the screen sizes when you have 3 choices now. 😁🥳
@YankeesGiants7 ай бұрын
I think you aren't critical you are truthful.
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
Thank you
@YankeesGiants7 ай бұрын
@@TechOdyssey Welcome
@dannyarroway41876 ай бұрын
Picked up a pixel 8a for $389 US here in Canada (with $150 CDN discount at BestBuy).
@athan01307 ай бұрын
Hey, your viewer in UK, I guess Google intended to make it 499 because now in UK, there’s a extra £150 pounds off when you traded in your old device, the promotion is almost last 1 month That means Google want people to trade in their own device and buy this device in just a specific period, I guess
@gujakis46887 ай бұрын
So, there is absolutely no reason to buy the Google Pixel 8a. I don't see the point of that mobile phone at all, which costs only 100 EUR less and is in every way worse than the eight.
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
Yup. Exactly
@bobgrimes86187 ай бұрын
The last great A series phone was the 3A XL, $349.
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
4a was very good
@wizzgamer7 ай бұрын
4a was outstanding ridiculously good camera, great performance thanks to Google optimization (according to reviews). And small and light.
@Lansky12137 ай бұрын
Plastic back on the A is better and has more advantages in my opinion. The only down side really is just the thicker bezels but even then you won't really notice it after using the phone for a while. I got the pixel 8 Pro and the Pixel 7A and The bezels on the 7A aren't that bad when using the phone just when comparing to other phones. But unless you really want a plastic phone you should just go with the 8
@Abarth328GTS7 ай бұрын
Great video I do like the plastic back - stronger than Glass
@neorich597 ай бұрын
You can _still_ get the Pixel 8 for £499 in the UK. I was sorely tempted by the 8a, an upgrade from the 6a. But, I played with one in store, yesterday and I thought that the rounded corners felt a little "bulgy,," which has put me off. So, I've probably go for the 8, even though I'm not a fan of glass backs. I'll be slapping a case on it, permanently, from the get go! 😉😉
@richarddcrossley7 ай бұрын
Noe they have put the prices back up in the UK an 8 is £699 and 8a £499. When you consider a brand new 14 plus is now £599 in a lot of places on sale that's a tough ask! Thankfully I got a brand new 8 Pro mint for £549 thanks to a promo on top of the promo!
@fightnight146 ай бұрын
The roundedness of the 8a and the matte back is so sexy. I wish the P8 was like that. Let's hope that the P9 is, because I know that the P9 Pro are gonna have a new design. They should keep the old design for the entry level model.
@hirengandhi90837 ай бұрын
I just got a pixel 8 today, too bad I missed out on the pixel 8 price drop, but it's ok because if it drops for memorial day I will get a price adjustment at Target where I purchased mine otherwise I feel like it's a great device
@user-jgn19447 ай бұрын
Question. Do your comments. Prices etc. Also apply to the UK. Or not? Referring to the pixel phones
@Arrowhead7077 ай бұрын
At this price point the 8a shouldn't really even exist
@jerrymartinez25287 ай бұрын
Never liked the argument about the bezels and if it's a deal breaker for you then don't get the phone but don't let it be the standing opinion,in actuality they put all the camera AI features in it and that's what people want
@knaussgy7 ай бұрын
Currently have a rather used 7 pro. I can buy an 8 pro for 450 only 128 barely used or do I wait for the 9 pro. Failing that go boom and get the 24 ultra, hmmmm love the now playing feature.
@vlastimir777 ай бұрын
Bezels aren't that big. I know that 2015 was a long ago, but bezels were much bigger and phones were still smaller in size. I am not sure if pixel 8a is worth much more than 7a.
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
The bezels are huge. It's ok if you don't mind them but for a phone today, it's big
@vlastimir777 ай бұрын
Yes, in today's market they're big. Looking forward to Xperia 5 VI
@fboost6 ай бұрын
@@TechOdyssey flossy compared the bezels to an iPhone 15, they are surprisingly similar. If the 8A bezels were any smaller they would be the same as the pixel 8 and iPhone 15. I think they are the size they should be on an 8A. I wouldn't want people thinking my 8 is an 8a if I had an 8.
@a1000island7 ай бұрын
It looks better then the 8 But yeah 500 is too much But the 7a has dropped to 350 brand new so...😊
@acurisur7 ай бұрын
I had the choice of the 8 or 8a for my phone upgrade this week, but after watching some comparisons I went with the 8. The 8a makes too many concessions and it's only slightly cheaper as my phone company have already discounted the 8.
@tiberseptim66487 ай бұрын
@@acurisur 8a looks so good in comparison with 8
@acurisur7 ай бұрын
@@tiberseptim6648 It doesn't though, it's been stripped back in almost every department. And it's almost the same price as the 8 because most phone carriers have discounted the 8.
@acurisur6 ай бұрын
@@tiberseptim6648 Not for the price it's being sold for here in the UK it's not. It's only slightly cheaper, like about £20 cheaper
@tiberseptim66486 ай бұрын
@@acurisur in Moldova they sell it for 770$ almost the price of the iPhone 15 when in reality it should be half the price of iPhone they are out of their minds
@vukve7 ай бұрын
Is regular Pixel heating a lot? Summer is coming so i'm just wondering how will it behave
@budget2flagshipcellphonere8547 ай бұрын
Another great video thank you for telling the truth about this phone I am a fan of all pixels but I got mad every time I get one they all run hot besides that I really like them
@TomUK77 ай бұрын
In the UK Google have great trade in offers. I can trade my s21fe for £250 against the 8a which halves the price. I traded my Pixel 2 against the s21fe two years ago which brought price down to £400. But smaller 9 Pro is probably going to be worth waiting for.
@hobbitpsi7 ай бұрын
Best argument not to get the 8a: For $100 more you can get a Pixel 8 pro used in good condition. *drop mic*
@tommyboy61117 ай бұрын
Just wait for the 9
@user-jgn19447 ай бұрын
And I Always fit a case, so I don't care about the finish on the phone itself
@boodi11707 ай бұрын
I wasn't convinced, so I got the 8 pro for an extra $50
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
Good call
@JoeC50507 ай бұрын
I feel size and bezel is a huge negative factor as per me. Phone looks big and bulky when compared to main pixel 8. Why wouldnt google make it as a compact one (refer S24 specs). Those who are using 6.5" phone now, they might feel its compact however not many will move from 6.5" phones to 6.1" phones. Those who are using compact phones now, will feel its not compact!! So who will be the buyer for such phones?. Even price is not right for this phone. Other parts of world, its priced high.
@KoalaBeer.6 ай бұрын
I have S24 baby and love it … design but this would be ok for $300…btw I got my S24 for $600 so here $200 less
@redchrome217 ай бұрын
Long LIve Pixel 4a!
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
Amen
@syncronate7 ай бұрын
still rocking my pixel 4a, smooth af no issue at all. pixel 8a looks fine but that bezels is horrendous compare to 4a ig?
@robertvogt15276 ай бұрын
In Australia, the 7a is$749,.....the 8a is$849,.....the 8 is $1199, and the pro is $1699. Starting to follow Apple's prices.
@BrodeeRaney-zl1kf7 ай бұрын
We all know you love quality for money lol 😆 but I appreciate Google for trying with the 8A.
@NoahBoyer2110 күн бұрын
I don't know what the point is in getting the Pixel 8a now, when you can buy the Pixel 8 used but for cheaper. Also, I find the Pixel 8 looks a bit better due to the reduction in bezel thickness.
@defi_ramsay6 ай бұрын
at least the front facing camera is 13mp unlike my trash front facing camera on my pixel 8 pro
@RajR20007 ай бұрын
First time watching ur video. Instantly subscribed the moment said 399 for 8a lol
@432wheels7 ай бұрын
Pricing on a plan here is confusing. AU$11.78 on a 36 month plan so AU$424 which seems like a steal if it wasn’t for the cost of the service added on top 😜
@kab1r7 ай бұрын
I always go for black colour option because it hides the bezels better
@macrochipped7 ай бұрын
I think as time goes on, these companies will have a harder and harder time pricing these budget devices. Especially on the Android side.
@thinborne7 ай бұрын
it depends. If wr can get pixel 8 on discount, then pixel 8a has no meaning
@Gary_R7 ай бұрын
At £499 the Pixel 8a makes no sense when for an extra £2.50 per month you can pick up an 8.
@akandeoluwafemi28697 ай бұрын
People saying tensor G3 is bad’ that the battery life on the pixel 8 series are bad is that true ?
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
I think it’s fine. They get reasonably all day battery
@user-jgn19447 ай бұрын
But. Perhaps I'm actually better to wait for the 9?
@MRQKC873 ай бұрын
Google Pixel 8a is awesome. 😇💎👍
@Literatez7 ай бұрын
If they lower it to 399 this would be a no brainer phone honestly
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
Yup
@bobbymoss61607 ай бұрын
It's $299 for Google Fi customers.
@e3vL17 ай бұрын
@@bobbymoss6160and if you're not...
@LaughOutLouie887 ай бұрын
I would say $350 would be the sweet spot to even want to consider the a series.
@Vss0777 ай бұрын
@@e3vL1 then its ~300-350 with the 150$ trade-in deal - ( that offer might be over now or soon idk)
@tonymarenno95687 ай бұрын
I dont see the point. There are plenty of better phones at a much better price.
@432wheels7 ай бұрын
So I bought one of these which is going to be my test phone after the Pixel 9 comes out. I haven't been on a Pixel for a while and seeing something I've not seen before. There are 4 Google app shortcuts on the homescreen under the at a glance widget. They're not part of at a glance as if I turn it off, they're still there. Theres no option to delete them by long pressing. Anybody know why they're there? They're sort of useful but I wouldn't normally have them there
@TwoTimesRmedia7 ай бұрын
I think for 349 or lower it might be a good deal.
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@ragingdusty95717 ай бұрын
Wait a month because it's a Pixel so it will be on sale for close to that
@TwoTimesRmedia7 ай бұрын
@@ragingdusty9571 yeah.
@billy.71137 ай бұрын
Not just the BIG bezels, those very ROUND corners are ugly. 👎
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
I don’t mind the corners
@KoalaBeer.6 ай бұрын
Me either s3 vibe 😂
@joe-rm5tg7 ай бұрын
Price too High 💪💪💪💪💪💪
@Jopn837 ай бұрын
It's a ripoff it should not be more than $300 bucks.
@nickhalden8781Ай бұрын
You said both have 5000 mAh battery ?
@givingyousportsfrommyview6 ай бұрын
I really disagree with some of your statements on this. The pixel 8a will be off value because majority of the people who are going after this device will be because they are a pixel fan .. apple & Samsung do the same ish and Google's pricing compared to apples is ridiculous
@JeffMudrick-os5go7 ай бұрын
$299 on Google Fi. You're obsessed with the bezel thing. To me the only real sacrifice is the macro camera. Main camera differential in the real world is negligible (which camera won the MKBHD survey??).
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
I hardly ever talk about bezels. How am I obsessed with bezels? lol
@BrutallyHonestDave6 ай бұрын
If there was a true successor to the pixel 5, I feel like this would have been it.
@Gary05577 ай бұрын
I had the 7a and I swear the bezels on the 8a are bigger.
@alexstruenorth7 ай бұрын
Can't see me trading in my pixel 7a for it. I don't even use the AI stuff on my S24
@balexander16587 ай бұрын
This needs to stop. Google needs to just reduce the price of the 8. Given their market share it could only help. The "A" series is basically e-waste at this point.
@ciprianadrian217 ай бұрын
Hope it will drop to 350$ in around 6 months.
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
It almost certainly will
@nccapone3447 ай бұрын
Absolutely 💯 Especially when the Pixel 9 series comes out in October, And the next month it's Black Friday the pixel 8 & 8a will have some really good deals! 👍🥳🎉
@TomDegregorio-cz9yy7 ай бұрын
I would get it just because the camera ledge is way smaller 🤷
@artdogg507 ай бұрын
Over $500 bucks has always been a tough sell for me for a budget phone. Well the 8a is really more of a mid-range phone, but the same would still apply. The Tensor 3 is solid and probably overkill for that price, but the hardware just underwhelms for that kind of money for me. Plastic build, slow charging, small display, ok battery, and huge bezels. The Google Pixel 8 is something I'd more look for if I needed a phone around that price. So I agree with you there.
@noahmeme27 ай бұрын
That display is huge to me, small would be the 4a.
@ytown47 ай бұрын
It's a go at $399. Just give it a couple months.
@Ignozi7 ай бұрын
I can't ever see myself buying a Pixel A series phone. I like going for the flagship experience and getting the best you can have at the time. I'm just not the target audience for these mid-rangers.
@goldentrout48117 ай бұрын
the bezels are a deal breaker
@tyellowdragon7 ай бұрын
Atleast GG3 is more impact resistant.
@tiberseptim66487 ай бұрын
8a is the best looking Pixel phone ever and the colours are amazing even tho bezels are thick af
@madmann67237 ай бұрын
Its really tough to make a viable argument for these phones when the OnePlus 12r exists. Especially knowing that the 8 is already getting watered down AI features vs the Pro and its been confirmed the G3 is a repacked version just like the T2 was on the 7a.
@Gary05577 ай бұрын
A budget phone should be $300-$400.
@ForsetiAE6 ай бұрын
I stopped watching when you starting moaning about bezels seriously get over it.
@e3vL17 ай бұрын
Are they skipping pixel 9 this year?
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
Nope. Not that we have heard
@netnomad477 ай бұрын
They say it's coming October.
@plmpcharisma96867 ай бұрын
Google conference was just an AI show smh
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
Apparently Today is android update and product day. They changed things up this year.
@plmpcharisma96867 ай бұрын
@@TechOdyssey what time?
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
@@plmpcharisma9686 I’ve believe noon again
@niladmirari47627 ай бұрын
After pixel 9 release it will be 100 $ less
@truckercowboyed26387 ай бұрын
Would the 8A be worth it if coming from like a Pixel 6 Pro ????
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
I don’t think so
@jerrymartinez25287 ай бұрын
Absolutely, they worked a lot bugs out apart from the P8 ,wait till price drop again
@artdogg507 ай бұрын
Maybe only if you really really want the AI features. And I don't think I could even say that strongly.
@xnn38827 ай бұрын
This is just sad Google. I'm getting Motorola edge 40 instead.
@BlueAmerican267 ай бұрын
Rip off
@iavyy7 ай бұрын
nice bezels bro
@cobaltblue55237 ай бұрын
I believe the pixel 8A has incredible value when it's on sale you should never buy a pixel or any phone when I first comes out you have to wait they have ridiculous deals that go on and they always go down in price so I guarantee you the 8A will be 399 or maybe even 3:49 for Christmas add that price I would say it's an absolute steal of a phone I would prefer to actually get the 8A because because of the matte finish I hate glossy finish I think that's absolutely disgusting what most people like the glossy I don't know why and if you're smart you would actually get a pixel 8 refurbished which is going to be at even lower cost
@sglatitude7 ай бұрын
4:37 $499 for Google's 'budget' phone? With those chunky bezels, no reverse wireless charging, not even a charging brick included, and a plastic back? No way. I wouldn't drop more than $300 on it. I'll stick with my Pixel 7 Pro until it totally gives out. If it were $300, even Bob Barker would say “the price is right!” 🤌🏼
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
Get a renewed pixel 8 on Amazon for $438
@ZacharySchulz7 ай бұрын
Plastic back is a positive for me. I wish the PRO versions also had a plastic or aluminum back. Pixel 5 was the best design ever.
@KoalaBeer.6 ай бұрын
Its flagship price get a S24
@Cruiser_Rao7 ай бұрын
Idw people can stand the 18w charging speed, its 2024 now and nothing phone support 45w, which only cost me 349$
@murtazachaudhary33397 ай бұрын
Nice video
@djarthurlooby7 ай бұрын
The Pixel 6a still had a good price but the last two A models I don't think have a budget price really anymore. What was a steal was the moto edge 2023 when it was 350 and the edge plus 2023 when it was 599. Those are great prices. But plastic is good as how many ppl have butter fingers and arthritis can't hold on to stuff plastic doesn't shatter is more durable so much better for most ppl.
@billy.71137 ай бұрын
Oneplus 12 (not R) with 12 + 256GB is $600. Much better device for an extra $100.
@artdogg507 ай бұрын
Where?
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
For sure
@triryuzaki35737 ай бұрын
Pixel 5 is better
@Dantastic1237 ай бұрын
Something to consider is trade-in values. I have an old S10e laying around collecting dust. I tested it with google. If i trade it on a Pixel 8 or 8 pro, they'll give me $40. But if i trade it on a Picel 8a, they'll give me $170. So currently today, if i get a Pixel 8, it'll cost me $660. And if i get a Pixel 8A, it'll cost me $330. So exactly half. I know that all changes when the Pixel 8 goes back down to $500 on sale, but considering trade-in, the 8a is still $130 cheaper. I personally dont care, as i use a Fold 5. But i like to see where things are in the phone market. I dont need another phone, i just like looking. And a side note, samsung will give me $150 for my S10e bringing the S23 FE down to $450
@pokerboy722 ай бұрын
Love your IDGAF style
@BrodeeRaney-zl1kf7 ай бұрын
I chose the iPhone 13 over the pixel 8 pro, quality for money 1000$ vs 629$
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
Luckily the pixel 8 pro is still on sale for $799
@xXllIIIIllXx7 ай бұрын
It's not a budget phone, Google don't advertise it as such thats just your take. The price is offset by the trade in, they offered £130 for a Pixel 5 against a pixel 8 and £235 against an 8a.
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
Ok 👌🏻
@crispyy88997 ай бұрын
Throughout the years a series phones have been budget pixels but I do agree with you google hasn't advertised it as such and the trade in deals are great.
@xXllIIIIllXx7 ай бұрын
@@crispyy8899 yeah, budget pixel or budget phone, two different things
@lazloarmageddon50986 ай бұрын
Don't like the colors.Really ugly.Sea foam green?🤢🤮
@mousefatfat7 ай бұрын
Its considered cheap at $499 usd, in my country, its about $590 usd. One question, looking at the specs, the Pixel 8a seems to have a better camera than the Pixel 8, am I wrong? Kindly advise. thks
@TechOdyssey7 ай бұрын
It's a worse camera than the Pixel 8
@Star_Gazing_Coffee_Lover7 ай бұрын
Junk.
@krskadave7 ай бұрын
I like my 8Pro, but don't really use it much because much like you don't care for the iPhone 15PM...weak signal bars where ever I'm at...2-3 bars at most times...compared to my S24+ and Ultra...very poor...it probably works just fine, but it bothers me to know that that is an issue on the phone...psychological issue for me I guess...just hate to look at the screen and notice weak signal...other than that, it's a neat phone...I have a feeling it'd be the same issue with the 8a but yeah, it's a 350$ phone at best....