GOPRO HERO 10 - OVERHEATING TEST AND GOPRO'S RESPONSE!

[@MorganLeighMusicNow]

But for real, you look really good in Cuts clothes😬

[@DavidManningvlog]

Then maybe you quit stealing all my Cuts hoodies, so I can wear them!😝

[@asherembry8833]

Nice one

[@PixelPeepShow]

@@DavidManningvlog Gotta say, they do look nice, but also comfy. One thing I do need to know, are the materials ethically sourced and the production sweatshop-free?

[@S3ndIt13]

😂😂 I swear you guys. Keep up the great work! Love the content, my guy!

[@TallJakeW]

It's awesome seeing you guys flirting with each other. My wife and I have been married 23 years, and I have to say, "Flirting is important."

[@GoPro]

Thank you for taking the time to put HERO10 Black through the paces. We watch every review like yours from start to finish and we read every comment so we can better understand how people are using their GoPros and what they want improved. We’re committed to releasing firmware updates that will continue to improve HERO10 Black, so know that when you or your audience make recommendations- we are listening!

[@FishingWithWilso]

Hopefully you can address this overheating issue with a firmware update because its really not looking good for the hero 10. Is this issue caused by the battery?

[@jonathannumer5415]

@@FishingWithWilso it's caused by the fact that 5.3k is an insane level of processing and he explained that they are small cameras and it's hard to jam enough heat sinks in.

[@jester9118]

@@jonathannumer5415 I'd totally agree, however, it makes no sense for the newer model to overheat sooner than the previous when recording at the lower resolutions also. If this were just at 5.3k or 4k120, yeah, overheating would be understandable... but to last less at 4k60??

[@JoaoPCavalcanti]

@@jester9118 it's got a bigger sensor and faster processor

[@gigihanmandarin]

Does GP10 still freezes?

[@GoPro]

Hey David - we have an exciting update for you! Thanks to customer feedback, we’ve learned many HERO10 users want the ability to record longer video clips in static situations without motion or airflow to cool the camera. Many have also had questions about how to get the longest possible recording times while maximizing battery life. We’re excited to share that we’re releasing a HER010 firmware update to deliver on these requests by end of October. This update will introduce three new “Video Performance Modes” to help maximize HERO10’s performance depending on your use case: 1. Maximum Video Performance - Maximum video resolution and frame rates for the very best image quality and ultra slow motion. 2. Extended Battery - Optimal video resolutions and frame rates for maximizing recording times and extending battery life. 3. Tripod / Stationary Video - Optimized for recording long video clips at the highest resolutions and frame rates when the camera is stationary without motion or airflow to cool the camera. GPS and HyperSmooth video stabilization are turned OFF in this mode. The following is what users can expect to achieve, on average, in Tripod / Stationary Video mode recording a single continuous clip at a temperature of 77F / 25C in static situations without movement or airflow to cool the camera: 5.3K60 - 47% more runtime than previous for an average of 29 minute-long clips 5.3K30 - 11% more runtime than previous for an average of 44 minute-long clips 4K120 - 52% more runtime than previous for an average of 26 minute-long clips 4K60 - 154% more runtime than previous for an average of 63 minute-long clips 4K30 - 35% more runtime than previous for an average of 50 minute-long clips A future firmware update will enable even longer clip lengths in 5.3K30 and 4K30. And if important for your use case, 2.7K and 1080p will enable significantly longer single clip recording times in either Extended Battery or Maximum Video Performance modes. We’re also excited to share that in late November we’re releasing a new battery, named Enduro, for HERO10 and HERO9 cameras. Enduro will be available as a $24.99 spare battery upgrade and features revolutionary technology that dramatically improves your GoPro’s performance in cold temperatures (snow sports, for example) while also significantly extending recording times in moderate temperatures. At a battery temperature of 14F / -10C (note: this is the battery’s temperature, it can be even colder outside), with HERO10 Black the Enduro battery enables, on average, 56 minutes of 5.3K60 video, 50 minutes of 4K120 video, 76 minutes of 4K60 video and 115 minutes of 1080p30 video recording. Enduro also significantly increases video recording time in moderate temperatures. For example, with HERO10 Black during typical outdoor activities at a temperature of 77F / 25C, the Enduro battery enables, on average, 60 minutes of 5.3K60 video (a 28% improvement over the standard battery), 51 minutes of 4K120 video (a 40% improvement over the standard battery), 71 minutes of 4K60 video (a 13% improvement over the standard battery) and 120 minutes of 1080p30 video recording. Stay tuned for more information on the November launch of the new Enduro battery and end of October release of the updated HERO10 firmware featuring the new Performance Video Modes. And please keep your feedback and requests coming - as you can see, we’re excited to develop additional HERO10 performance enhancements based on your input!

[@bjoern_eberhardt]

This was actually the last thing that kept me from upgrading :)) I am not talented enough to record the perfect shorts, but I have a 512GB MicroSD to compensate.

[@spekledworf]

Glad to hear of the updates. I got this GoPro to put inside my car during track days and need it to record 30 minutes at a time

[@kevintofts1945]

I just purchased a new GoPro 10 black, when in 2022 will we see the updates and new enduro battery, or where can i go to get these updates, thank you

[@bilali_life]

@@kevintofts1945 hey Kevin , do yoU face the overheating problem in Gopro hero 10 after the new update version ? Please guide me I’m looking for buying the Gopro hero 10 for vlogging ,

[@EntirelyHonest]

@@bilali_life Wondering this as well!

[@clicks59]

I repair GoPro’s. After watching this, I was truly impressed. The Hero 3’s and 4’s can run over one hour. Granted, they are not 4 or 5k cameras. The 7’s can yield respectable recording times, especially if the frame rates are not maxed out. The general testing criteria that I use is 1080P, 60FPS. All LED’s turned off, beep volume set to medium and screen auto off after 1 minute. Not yet digging into a 9 or 10, I’d have to say from a reliability standpoint, the 3’s were the most reliable. The 7 black runs a close 2nd place and is my favorite. It is GoPro’s flagship camera for video quality and reliability, IMHO. The 4’s are decent if you get a good one. They seemed to have the most image sensor failures. The video quality is good on all of them, if you dial in the settings properly for what you are going record. Seriously, I am not a GoPro junkie.🤪

[@abundantharmony]

I can't believe people can record at 4k 60fps with no issues. I just returned mine today because I cant record longer than 15 mins at 4k 60fps IN 40 mph wind strapped to my helmet. Help? I need to motovlog asap.

[@JBJHonez]

@@abundantharmony get a refund and get the Oslo Action and see how it goes. I wish I had the money do get a set to try out

[@dnegel9546]

I dont get why this guy simulated "real world" scenario. Instead of actually you know going outside in the real world. 😑

[@JBJHonez]

@@dnegel9546 right. Because his tests aren’t “real world”. I’m tired of fake KZbinrs. That’s why I don’t have the subs and such like others, because I’m not making Micheal bane Videos, I show my mistakes and I have a life outside of the KZbin world

[@taylorhead9842]

11:39 Real world situation? 75 degrees inside a home, no heat from the sun which a go pro is made for outdoors, and a fan blowing on it constantly. No camera should overheat in that scenario.

[@Groaznic]

Yeah you can almost see the stack of gopro money off camera. Disgusting.

[@RamirezHD]

They a re pulling the "iphone" trick. Marginal improvement but people still pay for it. Why would they changed it?

[@camtwan1]

Yeah it made no sense how he keeps acting like being out in the sun is the wrong way to use it. It is an action outdoor camera, overheating in 10 minutes is a joke

[@jawaring4367]

There are more comprehensive (and scientific) tests on youtube that show the overheating claims are blown way out of proportion. People love to hate gopro for some reason. I've used it in the southern US in direct sunlight and I still haven't seen it overeat.

[@amtyoutube9371]

I have a GoPro 13 Black camera and I can't complete a single 20 minute video in the evening because of the heat of the camera

[@GearsGadgets]

Thanks!

[@BUILTDIESELMAFIA]

Can we get a comparison of the battery OUT of the camera and plugged into an external source? How long then does it last? Thanks

[@ATEmedia]

That would be an interesting test and I think you will find it will last longer

[@neloman28]

GoPro to people with overheating issue on the Hero 10: "You're using it all wrong!" Great marketing!

[@robertm3951]

Worked for Apple

[@John_Ridley]

GoPro has a lot of cultists. They'll buy whatever they put out.

[@JunkBondTrader]

they said 'testing it wrong'. But still, no excuse.

[@MichaelGile19]

When they finally did address it, they just decided to call it the 10 just so they weren't accountable for the 9 being garbage

[@abundantharmony]

I can't believe people can record at 4k 60fps with no issues. I just returned mine today because I cant record longer than 15 mins at 4k 60fps IN 40 mph wind strapped to my helmet. ​

[@asspirin108]

GoPro: *overheats DJI: TONIGHT WE FILM IN HELL

[@izakniemann5734]

DJI ACTION 2 is coming on 27 Oct'21. That is the camera to buy!

[@theelectronomer2319]

@@izakniemann5734 It sure is. Let's see what you can do DJI!

[@tomm3338]

Thanks so much for doing this video and kudos for reaching out to GoPro and them responding.

[@DavidManningvlog]

Absolutely Tom, thanks for watching! And super cool of GoPro to respond and react with firmware updates. Very cool to see!

[@ArmyTruckTom]

I use my DJI osmo action in a very hot truck during offroading and traveling. so far it did not stop recording, and i'm making long clips up to over one hour. It looks like i bought the right cam, that is more than 2 years old and somehow still beats the go-pro in terms of heat and usability for long times.

[@mtnmotoadv]

I've had my fair share of action cameras over the past few years. Recently bought the DJI Action and have been super impressed with it so far. All the latest and greatest resolutions sound nice but realistically I'm still only using 1080p 60fps and Maybe 2.7k at most, so anything beyond that I don't even bother with since it uses so much memory space and takes forever to render. I just wish I had gotten the DJI long ago

[@skatetoexplorevideos2477]

yup, osmo action is the best.

[@joakimtollerud2172]

Love that camera, such a workhorse.

[@circuslife888]

I own DJI Osmo Action. I think it's the best action camera currently -- by a clear mile.

[@joakimtollerud2172]

@@circuslife888 and great price.

[@davideberhardt4977]

Excellent info David Manning. ------ I did an indoor test of a GoPro Hero 8 at 73 degrees F. 4k, 24fps with the media mod installed and mounted on the legs extended. I got one hour recorded with about 90% battery used up. No shut down. It was hot to the touch but not where I couldn't hold it.

[@tombuck]

This is great. I didn’t know there were overheating issues because, like you said, I rarely record for that long all at once, but it’s a good thing to be aware of. Curious if the Media Mod changes things or traps heat 🤔

[@alekblaser]

Media mod reduces resolution to 2.7k so I’m sure it won’t overheat as fast

[@BrandonTalbot]

Same.

[@isaactaylor1833]

Shut up and stop trying to downplay this horrible situation. You rarely record for 20 mins? 😂😂😂 ok so super overheating isn’t a problem. Just don’t use the GoPro for longer than 15 mins. Stupid af

[@armando.visuals]

Media mod is not available yet for GoPro 10 we have to wait for update

[@Ocho474]

@@armando.visuals I have the media mod for my GoPro 9 and you can definitely use it on the GoPro 10

[@carolnoble370]

Waiting for mine to arrive ....my first gopro and I can't wait !!! Love your videos by the way and hi from Australia !!!

[@mysterydpt4663]

I did a heat test on the hero 10 with hypersmooth off at 4K 30fps and I got 55 minutes recording time until it cut the clip. Didn’t shut off or show overheating message just cut the clip at 55 minutes. Camera was hot . So it might be that the frame rates drain more battery than the resolution . I also think the hypersmooth also drains a lot of battery usage and forces the camera to get even hotter thus shorter recording times . Going to try another test with hypersmooth on at 4K 30,60 and 1080p 30,60.

[@Phoenix11720]

Did you do the tests?

[@dancer1]

Update?

[@Kynetguy]

Did you update? I’m Looking at running at 1080/30fps with 1/60 shutter into an HDMI capture card. Will be running typical Streaming setting. No hyper smooth and usb c charging connected.

[@theatlgator]

I scuba dive. Wish you could have done an under water test. I sure it will not have an issue under water. Thanks for all the info

[@cognetic]

Thank you for addressing the overheating issues with action cameras.

[@TheBawseKreator]

So glad I found this video. I was about to not even purchase this camera because of all the reviews on the over heating issue. So thank you so very much💕!!!

[@kjc83]

If DJI release the Osmo Action 2 this year (and it’s an improvement on v1) it’s gonna absolutely destroy GoPro 10 sales

[@MrCruz_TEDM]

I'll spend every dollar on Dji cameras cause THEY WORK 💯

[@RICH_Photography]

And looking at the Mavic 3 and they apparently throwing a m43 sensor into a tiny drone...DJI could end GoPro.

[@robertm3951]

What amazed me was how tiny the action is compared to GoPros but it still handled the heat better

[@montecristo9017]

For sure..

[@psykoonthestreet8640]

@@RICH_Photography Doubtful.

[@EverythingIsPhotogenic]

I honestly don't know what people are expecting. Even top tier mirrorless cameras overheat at high resolution/frame rates... We just aren't there in terms of managing both size and processing power. We can either make camera bulkier with better cooling or try to balance a typical use case and utility. If you need to run video reliably for hours straight, then film at 1080. That doesn't just apply to the gopro. Some of the shit people film does NOT need to be at 4K. Just because you CAN film at 4K+, doesn't mean you should or need to. Is this disappointing? Yes, but GoPro is right... This is an ACTION CAM, not a 4 figure professional piece of equipment. It's optimized for action shots... It's not a full-time dash cam, it's not a security camera, it's not meant to film a 3 hour documentary... It's for action clips. The fact that it IS so flexible is a bonus. The settings are actually a good callout... You're not comparing apples to apples when you have enhanced hypersmooth, horizon leveling, higher frame rates etc... Simple adjustments like hypersmooth off in a fixed position makes total sense (although maybe it would be nice to have levels to create equivalency to the 9). TLDR, cameras are tools. Even $7K rigs aren't the best at everything. You select the right tool for what you need and move on with your life.

[@timsytanker]

And how many times did the DJI camera shut down?

[@EverythingIsPhotogenic]

@@timsytanker it's like comparing a Toyota to a Audi... You've completely missed the point. We can all tell you're team DJI... the QUALITY and SETTINGS are not comparable.

[@timsytanker]

@@EverythingIsPhotogenic it’s like comparing an Audi that breaks down every time after using not even half a tank of fuel to a Toyota that just keeps going and going…. Only a fool would stick with the Audi because he was obsessed with the shiny buttons..,

[@EverythingIsPhotogenic]

@@timsytanker 🤣 ok honey... Lodging insults over a camera??? Get over yourself. You've missed the ENTIRE point of my comment. It's the right tool for the right job. If you need longer video with a sacrifice in quality, the DJI is the right choice. If you want the best available video quality and features available in action cameras for clips of typical duration, go GoPro. That simple. I didn't call people "fools" for making a different choice, I made an objective statement that lionizing DJI as superior to GoPro because it doesn't overheat when it's a lower quality output and processor is disingenuous. It's that type of bad faith discourse that makes someone a "fool"

[@timsytanker]

@@EverythingIsPhotogenic there are many people who will set the camera recording and leave it running, editing later to produce short clips so the ‘only use it for a few minutes because it will over heat’ is a big cop out. Only Audi fan Bois would buy a car that forces you to stop every 20 mins to cool down for a bit. In case you haven’t noticed, it’s 2021, why can’t we have a camera that’s actually capable of high frame rates and doesn’t shut down? It could be excusable on a cheap Chinese Amazon rip off but on a top of the range camera? It’s a poor design, nothing more, nothing less. I was going to buy one but not now, the new DJI camera doesn’t appeal to me so I’m going to have to look elsewhere. I was looking for something better than the DJI Action - mine has the fogging issue now and again but this Gopro isn’t it. I mount cameras on a canoe or kayak and just let them run, I don’t need the added hassle of ‘cool down time’ or dragging a fan along with me as well as a generator to power it…

[@johnbolorinos7178]

I'm highly skeptical of GoPro's claim that "75% of all GoPro clips ever recorded, are under 1:10". Whether you're mountain biking, scuba diving, surfing, or skiing/snowboarding, no one is going to be stopping their camera every minute, that's absolutely absurd. To me that just demonstrates how out of touch GoPro is with their users, to think that they only shoot 1-2 minute clips, and I'd be curious to hear where they're getting that data from. Personally I'd say 90% of my videos are over 5 minutes.

[@peteturner8493]

Many thxs for this review the over heating issue is a deal breaker for my intended use on a touring bicycle to record 2 hour + rides!

[@leonardobehrens1204]

So happy I got to hold on buying the "Hot Pro", I almost lost faith on DJI releasing Osmo Action V2. Don´t need 5K, up to 4K and amazing features and reliability for long shooting times is what my real life scenario wants. Can´t wait for DJI releasing the kraken.

[@izakniemann5734]

DJI ACTION 2 is coming on 27 Oct'21. That is the camera to buy!

[@kysus3284]

DJI action 2 is even worst LOL it lasted 10 minutes filming 4k/60FPS and 18 minutes with the screen battery , i did the test in a room with an AC and the heating limit turned off. ill do outside testing later.

[@abundantharmony]

I can't believe people can record at 4k 60fps with no issues. I just returned mine today because I cant record longer than 15 mins at 4k 60fps IN 40 mph wind strapped to my helmet. ​

[@abundantharmony]

@@kysus3284 glad I saw this comment. sheesh im doomed

[@gabewallace6062]

The battery door is now plastic on the hero 10, so if you change it for the metal door on the hero 9 onto the 10, would that make a difference since metal is a better conductor of heat? Wouldn’t make a huge difference but something worth trying

[@RickActual]

“You’re doing it wrong,” is GoPro’s response. I was expecting to be able to set them up around a soccer goal. I set the GoPro 9 on a tripod (not on a flat surface) 4K60P with Hypersmooth off. 60fps for sports - in the sun. It shuts down at about 15 minutes running so hot the battery is probably permanently degraded a little. I found that I could keep it running if I drop the resolution to 2.7K60P without a battery inside to allow for more airflow. During an indoor (72 F) test running at 4K60P my FLIR camera showed theGoPro 9 at 130 degrees, but I’m sure it got hotter by the time it shutdown. I’ve searched for camera cooling solutions such as sunshades and fans with no success yet. I thought about connecting a small cordless blower to a vacuum hose and zip tying that hose to the tripod. Then I just stopped myself from going down the rabbit hole. More expense, carrying more stuff, and then drowning out any sound of the game with fan and wind noise.

[@masiosareiii4915]

Just buy a DJI osmo, zero bugs.

[@MrCruz_TEDM]

Dji Osmo - 💯 - Get something worth your time bro. No joke.

[@BrewerShettles]

Great Video!!! OPEN Flaps (Mounted) + Air - 12:18 - 12:38

[@KennethGreenCMP]

Great video!!!! If someone is looking for an ACTION camera to record for 20 mins to 2 hours straight indoors sitting on table they should buy a.......CAMCORDER. I used a H9 and H10 all day walking and biking around Charleston, SC in 85 degree heat and it never over heated. Now, I did burn through a few batteries. I have yet to see a test in normal use that GoPro made the camera for. Go biking, running, skiing, surfing, mountain climbing, driving with it mounted out side of you car - then tell me it overheats in 20 mins.

[@mysterydpt4663]

How many batteries do you usually run through ? I bought my GoPro to record live sets that usually last about an hour . There’s plenty of videos on KZbin of people using gopros to record live concerts I’ve even seen one be up to two hours long don’t know how he did it. I did a test at 4K 30fps hypersmooth off and got 55 minutes . Wasn’t excited about it but it would do the job . I’m assuming 2.7k or 1080p 30fps would last a bit longer

[@KennethGreenCMP]

@@mysterydpt4663 I am getting about an hour to an hour and half on average of recording. I shoot mostly in 2.7/60 FPS recording a little bit of this and little bit of that. I don't turn them off in between recording. When riding the rental bikes around town this weekend, I recorded some, rode, recorded some more for example and got about an hour on each battery. The one with Media Mod and Rode external mic got about 45 mins but its also powering the mic too. I keep about 6 batteries on me when I travel. Just to make sure.

[@mycraven4drums]

Agreed @Kenneth Green. I ride my bike and I use my 9 all the time. I go on 1-2 hour bike rides minimum. I've never had mine overheat and turn off.

[@MehdiMirian]

Completely agree. If people argue about video length, then a bigger camera will suit their purpose, heck even their phone will do. But a GoPro is made to capture where no phone or big camera can go. Not do a 2 hour video on one sitting.

[@switzerlandandthephilippines]

Thank you so much for the explanation.

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

How about a surface snorkeling test/ shallow dive? I wounder how it would do then? 🤔

[@polloborracho9180]

I feel like having the whole housing submerged in cool water would net some interesting results. Feel like that's where it would be happiest. Haha

[@waldo2635]

I called GoPro about that. I'm a diver. They said in a case underwater filming at 2.7k or less it won't overheat but video 4k and up you can have as little as 16 minutes before overheating.

[@danielavery8594]

@@waldo2635 Hm, wonder what's the point in buying a large capacity micro SD card for 4K then if it's going to die in 15 mins.

[@octny]

I can confirm that too. I used the hero 9 black in the dive housing at 4k60fps and in 29 degrees water, it shuts down after a long video, if you are filming the whole dive. But if I turn it on then switch to 2.7k60fps, it does not overheat at all. Probably in colder water it could last longer before shutting down. Anyway, for me it lasts long enough. I also got the Hero 10 black and look forward to try it out scubadiving. so far so good.

[@SpiritualWorks2024]

the go-pro would still record better under water than on a desk because the water would most likely act as a cooling system for the go-pro like for most desktops

[@shunglefilms]

Great vid, thanks for doing the testing for us.

[@DavidManningvlog]

Absolutely Jamie! Thanks for watching!

[@HajongLee]

But it still doesn’t change the fact that in the same situation, at the same resolution and frame rate, the OLDER versions have better heat dissipation (or at least it doesn’t shut off for much longer). 4K60 in your own test Hero 8 = 30:00 whereas Hero 10 = 16:56. I don’t understand why this is.

[@TheVoiceofReason4ya]

New processor in the 10=more heat

[@ragndroneman]

And the insta360 and the action did even better 🤣👍

[@ragndroneman]

@@TheVoiceofReason4ya shouldn't that be the other way around?! ..... ah we have a new processor, its so much better cos it heats up even quicker.......!! 🤣🤣🤣👍

[@codyburbage7825]

@@ragndroneman more power means more heat.

[@simonwyndham]

I can get 38 minutes in 4K/60 SuperView on my HERO10.

[@AntZeid]

This story need to be heard by more people! thank you!

[@SickocrowAU]

You didn't test anything wrong. If you put all the cameras in a cool vented environment the 10 will still cook first. It has a overheating issue, full stop.

[@RocketBiscuits]

Easily the best video about the heating issue. Thanks dude!

[@hydraphisx]

Someone recording 15 mins of 4k 120 is simply nuts 😂😂😂😂

[@Amberdogproductions]

Guess I'm nuts...Lol.. I run mine in a rig in a dive case and hit record. Overboard it goes...

[@DevinRasche]

Bro I really appreciate you! I’ve been learning so much about my new GoPro 10 from you! Thanks for the vids!

[@aphinion]

My Hero9 also overheated at the test bench like hell. However: - In reality indeed I never shoot that long - mostly 5-10min clips with a lot of air flow - Firmware updates seemed to have tackled the issue quite a lot - it got better with the first 2 updates - Indeed those metal mounting flaps on the bottom get hot first, so I bouth myself some aluminum mounts to use with regular tripods, since aluminum transmits heat really well - and boom, no more heat issues whatsoever. So GoPro is quite right in their usage analysis and poroduct design - if you use it like it's intended to be used you'll hardly have overheating issues whatsoever. Worst comes worse, put it on an all-metal tripod (preferably aluminium) and it will stay cool enough even in stall or sun lit environments.

[@JBJHonez]

nah, I use mine on all metal tripods and it doesn't help. Even with the updates and such, it hasn't helped. I've lost 4 batteries in less than 2 weeks. 1080@30fps, batteries got so hot, I had to pull them out with pliers and now to spend the expensive gas to properly dispose of them

[@NicholasFlamy]

If you get 10 minutes at 4K30, then doubling the framerate requires the camera to do double as much work since it's double the number of frames. If you raise the resolution so that the total number of pixels is double then it would be the same effect as doubling the framerate. "It seems like framerate is the key factor." No, it's just that doubling framerate is as hard on everything as doubling the resolution.

[@CaseyLaDelle]

Yes, you testes it "wrong", but you tested them all the same way so GoPro's argument is completely irrelevant, and your tests still show the accurate results.

[@metallboy25]

Users: Hey Gopro. There is an overheating issue. Gopro: Just stop using it for more than a few minutes. 🙄

[@28Murf]

Did I miss the part where you tested the other cameras with a fan blowing on them and mounted off the table?

[@DavidManningvlog]

No, because they made it the full 30 mins on the table, so they for sure would make the whole 30 mins on a mount👍

[@NHlocal]

Right now I own the Hero3 Silver, Hero5 Black and Hero7 Black. I shoot video clips over 10 minutes all the time doing tree work, snowboarding and on motorcycle rides. Typically the motorcycle videos will run the battery down before overheating. I have had my Hero7 Black give me quite a bit of trouble overheating while shooting tree work video. Climbing around in a tree on a hot and sunny day doesn't move a lot of air..... ☀️🔥🔥🔥 For snowboarding the cold kills the battery fast. 🥶 I am considering an upgrade at some point. Seeing review videos like yours is a big help. You seem to be fairly objective and call out the cons as you see them and I appreciate that. Thanks and keep yourself safe! Randy

[@John_Ridley]

This response is typical of my experience with GoPro as well. If there's ever a problem with their camera, it's YOUR FAULT. That's what they've said to me every time I called their tech support. My response, today, was to put the money back in my pocket I had pulled out to buy a Hero 10 and buy a DJI Osmo Action.

[@LucWijdeveld]

When using the Volta you can remove the battery, which creates extra cooling. With the DigiPower Re-Fuel Battery Pack I don't know if you can remove the battery, but with the Telesin batteries tests, it appears that they get hot less quickly because they are connected to one side are rounded

[@kaltask1]

Some people take long timelapses, like whole night or 24h timelapses. There it is on mount yes but still not moving and some like taking timelapses inside where air is not moving that much. Though I think that timelapse creates less heat than proper 60fps 4k video, but it has to be able to run whole night or 24h without over heating imo 👀 would love if someone could test the timelapse heating. Also having an powerbank connected, would that cause more heat 🤔

[@adrianglessner5979]

I would think it would create less heat with a powerbank with a 100% charged battery. It will pull its power from the power bank rather than the battery, because its connected to usb c cable. This will reduce the amount of heat going through the battery in turn reducing unit temp. That's just my thought on it. I am sure people will roast me if I misspelled something or gave wrong information.

[@mtbohana]

He said in the video that the GP10 never over heated when doing time-lapse videos. So I would think you would be ok.

[@kaltask1]

@@mtbohana yeah seems that framerate is the key of the heating and in timelapse the fps low. Basically taking a pic every 0,5-10 sec.

[@kaltask1]

@@adrianglessner5979 yeah that would make sense tbh 🤔

[@johnphillips4733]

I used mine at the weekend 2.7k 120FPS, Superview. Ran it on and off from 8.30am until after 11am. No issues... But I was surfing. When surfing I'll often run my cameras until the battery dies, change the battery and carry on. but I'm in the North Sea UK so unlikely to see overheating issues. I ran the cam for 30min at home before I went to check everything was ok. it did feel pretty warm until I opened the feet and that definitely cooled it more. For general use like you said, my GoPros get used for 1 to 2min at a time.

[@HajongLee]

I use my Hero 7 a lot for long recordings (like an electric guitarist angle during an entire concert) and it does fine even past the one hour mark. Just battery capacity limited. But seeing this heating issue in a much NEWER model is unfortunate. Despite what those typical recording conditions are, the older models were put in the same condition as well and the Hero 8 lasted twice as long as the 10. I was really hoping to upgrade mainly because of the improvement in reliability and responsiveness but this makes me contemplate more. Glad I didn’t purchase one right away.

[@_smsb_]

this is interesting to me because i have had the complete opposite experience. Hero 7, but multiple clips at around a minute each. outside. camera always freezes up, then shuts down. i can take the battery out and put it back in, but that only fixes the problem for an extra clip or 2.

[@greatvedas]

same here about my opinion about newer models.

[@markuslad]

It totally depends on the use case. Mine even froze regularly in cold weather after 20-30 minutes 4k (wifi turned on), with 2.7k and everything off it works but that’s unpractical.

[@peternemeth6038]

That for me with the 7 happens because crappy firmware. Just keep the power button pressed until it's reset.

[@gettinghigh]

I use the Hero 7 with an external powerbank and removed battery during long flights. It recorded 4k 60 fps for 3 hours without any overheating issues.

[@tinothepilot]

I just bought a Hero 10, my first GoPro. I appreciate you taking such a ridiculous amount of time to do these tests. You have great videos that are useful, and that’s the best you can ask for. Thanks, David.

[@JustMaatt]

how is it going so far? any issues with overheating?? how long do u usually record for?

[@tinothepilot]

@@JustMaatt Haven’t ran it very long and intend to use it when I fly. I’ll let you know.

[@JonS]

Unless you need the screens on all the time, set them to turn off after a few minutes. The screens consume a significant amount of power.

[@robertm3951]

That sounds very reasonable to me. I wonder why GoPro did not recommend that

[@DanJen]

I suspect that's why the DJI cams force the screens to shut down. They probably generate a lot of heat and they've chosen to sacrifice that feature to keep recording while Go Pro chose to shut down the camera instead.

[@Vessekx]

@@DanJen, LCD screens don’t generate much heat at all. They get shut down in hot conditions to *protect* them from the heat, and to reduce draw on the battery, which becomes significantly less efficient in hot conditions as well.

[@RainiersFamily]

thanks for this review!

[@kevincross7168]

Thank you for all the effort you put into testing. I've just purchased the hero 10 and it's my first GOPRO period, you've given me peace of mind about my purchase.

[@dryfly2000]

Thanks for the update glad I have the 10 on the way. I go about 8-9 min. recording with my 9.

[@ToddBryantsr]

The DJI Osmo Action is the GOAT

[@izakniemann5734]

DJI ACTION 2 is coming on 27 Oct'21. That is the camera to buy!

[@BalticMotorSport]

Bought DJI Osmo Action month ago and I absolutely don't regret it! Very stable device and awesome quality.

[@martysusanf]

It shows me that the hero 10 has issues. That's not surprising though knowing GoPros past history. I do not believe the price justifies this camera with the faults that it currently has. It should be selling around $299.00. But, GoPro has always been overpriced..

[@jcap8391]

This is bad. What good is it worth if it doesn't work properly. I actually was a click away until I see the first overheat review. Good thing I stuck with my DJI

[@Buzzandfluff]

I have my gopro on mounts, with airflow and it still overheats. In real world situations, it overheats usually at the worst time and then you have to wait for it to cool down before you use it again.

[@Americanomondays]

Stuff like this - where people make rushed claims - reminds me of when the first Canon C300 came out - it was 1080 - had 8bit and everyone claimed it was dead on arrival. But then filmmakers (I’ve shot many things with Canon cinema cameras now) and especially doc filmmakers got it in their hands the image quality was stunning. Specs, and especially in studio tests are always different than actual real world use. Great video man - glad GoPro clarified.

[@tsunami6253]

Thank you for all the testing and content!!

[@TallJakeW]

So, what you're saying is this camera was purpose-built for snowboarders and skiers? I dare you see how long it can run without stopping while snowboarding. If you want to do Sun Valley, I'd ride with you as long as I can. :D

[@bikingchupei2447]

any decent airflow would do, cycling, running or simply just walking, i don't own a 10, but with my 8 i had recorded over 3 hours of continuous 4k60 footage multiple times in those conditions with 34+ degrees celsius temps.

[@elsienorback7689]

My new GoPro Hero 10 overheats as well. What is the solution to reducing it from happening? Returning it for a refund? It has a 30 day return policy.

[@meljenkins1016]

I just got the GoPro 10 to avoid GoPro 9. Yes, the damn thing overheats. Might as well film in Antarctica.

[@MrCruz_TEDM]

Send it back - DJI for the win, you won't be disappointed

[@meljenkins1016]

@@MrCruz_TEDM I already have the DJI Osmo. The difference is that Osmo has a built in fan on the camera. You'd think GoPro would have learned from DJI.

[@MrCruz_TEDM]

@@meljenkins1016 Right! Good deal man!!

[@Eric-ti4rm]

I’m greating the hero 10 tonight, I planning to us it for dirtbiking and snowmobiling, and some small other things. I will also probably be getting a few enduro batteries

[@Havran228]

Amazing explanation, thank you. Now I know it's not going to be an issue for me as I'm going to shoot mostly in 24 frames with ND filters, as I want to have cinematic feel and only fill in with slow motion, so this helped me clear all possible worries, now I know Hero 10 is my weapon of choice over 9, as lagging would be an issue, but overheating will not be

[@kymdarling4080]

I love mine, a big however though, I got mine mainly for snorkeling, just did 4 days in Hawaii, never shut off once. Also used it one day on a hike with no issues, but another however, I was not trying to record continuously for hours, I recorded when we started, when we came to an interesting or panoramic spot, and when we ended, given the heat and humidity of Hawaii and the tests he just did, no, I would not have been able to record the whole hike (but seriously, who would want to record a 3 hour walk?). I have only had it 7 months so time will tell, but for my purposes, I love it and have no regrets buying it. Thank you for the video, I now know what definitely not to do to keep loving it 😁

[@Awesomeandperfect]

But that would mean that all other cameras would do much better in real world conditions than the gopro10 as well? So its still not good enough?

[@DavidManningvlog]

So that's sort of the question of the video. How long do you need your action camera to record? GoPro says that 75% of clips are 1:10 or under and for me, I film 3-5 minute clips at the most. But for people that are looking to film for 15-20 minutes+, it sounds like they have to trade the benefits of the Hero 10 for a camera that can film longer👍

[@timsytanker]

@@DavidManningvlog you should be able to record until the battery goes flat, that’s not unreasonable. The DJI Action certainly can.

[@stehem53]

I have three GoPro 8's and use them mostly to record church service on Sunday morning. If I use 4K they usually shut down after 20-30 minutes. I usually use 1080 and they last until the battery is dead. One think I didn't know was the stabilization creating more heat. Thanks for that information. One other option is to take the battery out and leave the door open and use an external power source. I love GoPro's QR Lab. I've never heard you mention it.

[@JohnHikerDolar]

Thank you for this man. I'm going to upgrade from GoPro Hero 6 to 10. You sir, helped me make that decision. It totally depends on how you're going to use it. I'm not pretty much concern about it overheating on a table. So yeah! Easy purchase.

[@riccochet704]

Not going to sugar coat it. These are "Action Cameras". They're meant to be used in outdoor conditions, cold and hot, for extended periods of time. If they can't do that then what exactly are they good for? Both my 8 and 9 would crap out in the heat of summer and cold of winter. I ditched my GoPro Joke 8 and 9 for the DJI which just plain works. Do I lose a bit of video quality? Sure. But that beats no video at all when I'm riding trails or snowboarding for hours on end. YMMV

[@owncreation_noname]

Well for a 400-500$ Camera, you should expect to be able to shot a sunset without getting your camera overheated… They need to write that important notice on the Package.. Be aware this piece of technology will suffer from overheating by using it longer than 20 min. Or maybe Gopro should not release every year a new version.. what about getting this overheating thing solved and than come back into the light before selling useless crab..

[@DavidManningvlog]

I think the first part of your comment is the right move. Be more transparent about the camera's capabilities and what it's designed to do. I think if GoPro had done that, they would have received a whole lot less backlash on the whole overheating issue. But their research tells them that the vast majority of people film short clips on their GoPros. So clearly they're designing their cameras for that. That's cool and all, they just need to be more upfront👍

[@jonathanlanderos2266]

Super helpful! Thanks for the testing

[@jasonwong7140]

Ahh the whole "testing it wrong" line. Remember when Apple said "you're holding it wrong"? When companies say that they actually mean "we can't admit we got it wrong"

[@Pikmeir]

Yeah, hearing Gopro's official response made me lose faith that they're going to address this issue. I think they're now only focused on satisfying the 75% of their customers who they say never record for more than a few minutes. But they're going to end up losing a lot of lifetime customers who used their action cameras in professional settings, and anyone who needs to record for more than 10 minutes.

[@kwinzman]

In the end he put it on a mount. With a fan. In a climate controlled room. And it still shut off due to overheating? I was surprised to say the least!

[@Pikmeir]

@@kwinzman Too bad the Gopro 10 isn't tough and rugged enough to deal with the extreme climates of... a refreshingly cool house with air flow.

[@LenaTrucker]

Thank you!! Have you reviewed Apple AirTag? How did u find it?

[@CB-kd3dn]

GoPro’s so overrated just launching new cameras without actual/practical upgrades and improvement.

[@psykoonthestreet8640]

GP1 vs GP2. Hero 9 vs Hero 10 touchscreen and performance. If you had either of these cameras, you wouldn't need to make this statement. But I bet you do have an iPhone... :: baa ::

[@tractor4313]

Awesome review like always David 🤙🏽 thanks

[@JorgeAcostaPesca]

Great video! I'm sure my case is a small niche... but still... in the fishing youtube scene, we use gopro cameras all the time, we keep them running for long periods of time (many times until the battery runs out), since you are trying to record a fish biting and you can't predict when that will happen, so we just keep the cameras rolling... So in the summer, here in latin america I run into overheating all the time while fishing in the sun with temps over 100 °F. Currently i own three gopro hero 8, didn't get the 9 becouse reviews say it overheated easier than the 8. I usually record at 2.7k 60fps (would love to see a test with those settings). I was hoping the hero 10 with the new processor would overheat less... but it seems not (or maybe the results will be different on lower resolutions, maybe the faster processor doesn't get that much load at 2.7k 60fps and that means lesser heat output... either way, great video man.

[@DavidManningvlog]

Oh man, so stoked that Tabbers turned you onto Hindsight recording! SUPER helpful for use cases like yours👍

[@NewDayOutdoors]

Very similar here. I hunt and film everything. I use POV's in the decoys or on a hunter in stand, looping 20 minutes for hours on end with a large battery plugged into the USB port. GoPros ALWAYS overheat on me, even in cold weather. DJI and Insta do not ever overheat even when I hunt in the Texas heat. I refuse to buy anything GoPro anymore.

[@dougzauha]

Jorge, according to GoPro you are not using the camera in a “real world” setting. You should be using it in the same manner that they tested it. How dare you take a camera and use it out in the field to record in a way that did not match precisely how they tested it. Also, you should have purchased a fan and a VERY long extension cord to blow air around the GoPro. (David, that was NOT a dig at you.). Memo to Jorge…please be careful of dragging the extension cord in the water while in use. Now I am sure, or at least hope everyone sees the tongue-in-cheek tone of my comment, BUT it does demonstrate something. Companies today create a product that they want you to buy, so they market the heck out of it, show you all these cool maneuvers, and show you all the really cool things that you can do with it in “the real world” of their advertisement. Then you buy the item and use it in the “actual real world” and issues arise. You bring it to their attention, and they tell you…you aren’t doing it right as you aren’t using the right “real world” in your daily life. So in my opinion here is the thing. There is an issue. GoPro does not want to deal with it. GoPro wants to just blame you and not their product. AND, they want you to keep buying their products…even though you use them wrong in their eyes…which kind of conflicts with their marketing that got you to buy the product in the first place. As long as we keep buying and letting them get away with it, they will keep running with it and not addressing their issues. I have two GoPro 7 models. The last models that I will buy because I got tired of being told that I am using the device wrong…when I was actually trying to do everyday kinds of activities. Not going to continue to give a company my money and then be told I am wrong when I demonstrate an issue that is evident when they just don’t want to deal with a legitimate issue. If you want to buy it and give your money to a company like that…that is your choice. I choose not to.

[@KennethGreenCMP]

@@dougzauha so if you buy a Ford Mustang you are going to blame Ford that it can't drive over rocks or through the mud because that's not how you want to use it? Ford going to tell you to buy a 4x4 truck not let us fix the Mustang.

[@FishingwithMiguel]

im with you there, gopro has disappointed me, i live in las vegas, and fish lake mead..it gets up to 117 degree here at times...my gopros will overheat after 5 minutes here, and im shooting at 1080p mounted on my chest....i purposely dont shoot any higher because its not going to be worth it, gopro will over heat...ive shut most of the hypersmooth and all the other settings that i know will drain or mess with battery...and yes us as fisherman, need cameras to run constantly for hours, we cant choose when we will get a fish to bite, so recording just for a few minutes is NOT an option, we need them running constantly just to be able to get that bite on camera

[@Mick-sl3nv]

I live in Western Australia and regularly film in excess of 1 hour as I create train cab ride video’s, the camera is usually in the direct sun behind the forward facing cab window so gets pretty hot. I use the GoPro 7 and GoPro 9 on 4K and by simply having the locomotive cab aircon running (which believe me we need too) I rarely have the cameras shutdown. My difference is I use the power lead and remove the batteries. I am sooo looking forward to putting the GoPro 10 through its paces in my filming environment which is pretty harsh. Great informative video as always, thanks

[@bryceweaver]

Great to see you being honest about new tech. I really appreciate you because I know you will always speak the truth and say your opinion. Keep it up!

[@maxlvledc]

Major props for doing this, easy sub

[@FlippinEli]

Glad I watched through the end. Was thinking of finally getting one for mountain biking, but 20mins is not very long to record a ride. Looks like having it properly mounted and flying down trails should give plenty of recording time

[@ATEmedia]

I would of liked to see a test outside with the fan blowing harder. Might test mine when it arrives

[@typhoontom]

I just bought the GoPro 10 last week and noticed the overheating situation big time. I use it mainly as a dashcam on a sub-tropical island and it did shut down but only after I left it in the car while shopping...it did not shut down when I went to go shopping because it was in my house and already cool. I usually don't drive for more than 20 minutes to/from work so I hope it will prove itself.

[@dwsvlogs97]

That's why I love my osmo action it gets hot but it never shuts off and you write that screen do turn off when it gets too hot but it still keeps recording. Next time you're in Ohio look me up

[@harmymd]

Nice video...overheating shouldn't be an issue again in 2022...there should be more efficient processors by now

[@AfterWorkFishClub]

So it’s still the worst at overheating compared to the other cameras when testing the “correct” way?

[@HardcoreRC]

Great video and testing, however what happens when you incase the GoPro10 in the media mod, that would be like putting a coat on and keeping even more heat in

[@RHC_NYC]

Waiting for the DJI Osmo Action V2. GoPro just doesn't seem to really get it right, despite all the variations and updates.

[@chrismartin6690]

GoPro are good at Sales and Marketing..Just need teh product to perform.. If its designed for short bursts of video then they should say where best to use it.. By not saying it over heats if used for longer periods they have put doubts on the validity of the product.

[@JoshThompson25]

like you addressed in the video i think the question you have to ask yourself is are you filming expected action or unexpected action. Meaning expected is for example i know this is about to hapoen so you turn on the camera or do you turn on the camera because something may happen. Example filiming a skateboarder doing tricks or say filming a fishing adventure where you want to capture the bite, hookset, and reel in

[@DamienZaid]

I still use my hero 6 with reelsteady and none of the newer ones seem to be much better. I'm excited to see what the Osmo Action 2 will bring to the table (usable 480fps?)

[@arisakritidis2093]

Thanks for the video !!! I go pro 10 a few days ago, I can understand that can be overheated while we are using it. BUT at that moment that I'm writing this comment, my GoPro 10 is not turning on it's hot, and I was just charging it. Also, I have never managed to charge the camera 100%, even if I leave it on charge overnight. This afternoon, after a 10-min video recording on the mount in the car the camera just died. I never had issues like that with my Osmo action which I destroyed so i thought that is better to get a new go pro instead of an old osmo action again BUT.....

[@bonanzabrandon6877]

I'd be interested in seeing these same tests with no battery inside the unit plugged into an external power source

[@andrescruz9448]

Can't wait to buy my 2nd osmo action!

[@bradtaylor7265]

Thanks for this! Never had overheating issues using my Insta360 OneR and was thinking about trying a GoPro Hero 10 as a second camera… guess not! I film surfski runs (surfing with kayaks) so I have to let the camera run for 1 hour at a time, since it’s out of reach, then grab highlights in post.

[@NickBloy]

What about when you use the media mod? No airflow underneath.

[@DavidManningvlog]

Oddly, I haven't had any issues using the media mod! In general with the last couple firmware updates, they seem to have gotten the overheating thing mostly under control👍

[@Andre-Mostert]

I got a Osmo action while I waited for the HERO10 and for now I am not jumping. I use it on my bike with a chin mount and having a massive camera stuck there with a massive mic dongle just put more strain on my neck. On the EUC the front screen of the Osmo is super helpfull for framing and its a small size. Also the mic adapter is super small and cheap to replace if needed. I am happy with my setup. I only miss the high efficiency video format on the Osmo as the files are massive. With massive file come the need for a very expensive laptop or desktop to edit them without super render times. I speak to so many people that think they need to shoot at 5K or even 4K60 and when they get home to edit the footage there standard laptops or desktops makes the experience super bad. Just some thoughts

[@yalcharan]

Hello , Thanks for your review as I am planning to buy one of the Go Pro Cameras… I am planning to use the go pro Helmet camera for sports cricket 🏏 and length of the game will be close to 2 hours outdoors. Please suggest which one should I buy from Go pro 8, 9 or 10

[@aerobrain2001]

Air flow definitely makes a huggggge difference. I recorded for well over an hour non stop with hypersmooth (not boost though I think) at 4k60 on my road bike on a pretty warm day with my Hero 9

[@ScottDy9000]

I run the Hero9 for hours at a time on my SxS and it's never shuts down due to heat (ran out of storage a couple times). Just got a Hero 10 and I will test it soon - but yeah airflow makes the difference.

[@reshmashriyan5042]

@@ScottDy9000 how was hero 10 in terms of heating?

[@abundantharmony]

I can't believe people can record at 4k 60fps with no issues. I just returned mine today because I cant record longer than 15 mins at 4k 60fps IN 40 mph wind strapped to my helmet. ​

[@DavidDuchov]

I use Gopro camera or long MTB video, the Hero 10 is unusable for me, until they fix it (not turning everything in the lowest setting) I'll stick with the 9

[@rogeriogomesosorio4755]

GoPro can say what ever they want, but the other cameras in the exact same situation - standing flat on a desk - did much better. And the DJI is a 2 years old model. Also, action cameras are used by many car KZbinrs. On those situations, the camera has to stand inside of a car, most of the times, with a very hot interior, with direct sunlight… GoPro is not my choice for an action camera.

[@neloman28]

Totally agree. A 2-3 year Osmo Action with the common denominator settings still beats the GP10 by a mile. Action cameras are notorious for getting hot. But the Osmo is relatively smaller than the GP10 yet still better in handling the heat.

[@MrCruz_TEDM]

DJI IS A BEAST. - TEXAS HEAT CAN'T EVEN STOP IT! Dji is all i use and wont go back anytime soon. Might even buy a few more just for more angles! Literally!

[@jjsadv]

@@neloman28 hahah, the DJI camera is good.. but lets not get carried away here.. the stabilisation on the GoPro has no equal.. anywhere..

[@neloman28]

It's true that Osmo Action lacks the best qualities the GP10 have but at the end of the day, I'd rather have a camera that I can rely on. Imagine capturing a once in a lifetime situation, then your GP10 dies on you in the middle of shooting. Imagine missing the money shot past 20mins of filming. Completely unacceptable for that price. It's like they know how to do it, but won't because they'd rather focus on pixels and stabilization. What good are those if you miss the shot of a lifetime because it decided to give up on you. Bottomline, I'd rather have piece of mind than extra megapixels that ain't noticeable anyways.

[@jjsadv]

@@neloman28 for critical footage I use a Sony in a gimbal. Not an action camera of any type.

[@Lensbreak]

My "Yi 4K+" action camera is now some years old but never failed. I can record 4K60p for hours, powering the camera via USB cable, even inside a room without airflow, until the 256GB card is full. What a pity I broke the screen today, looks like all the new action cams are crap.

[@YachtReport]

Your constant request for likes and to watch to the end smells of desperation. Distracted from an otherwise interesting video.

[@Ruperth316]

are you new to KZbin? lol

[@YachtReport]

@@Ruperth316 I am a KZbinr. I ask people to subscribe occasionally in some videos, not three times before half way through a single video.

[@davideberhardt4977]

I'm so used to youtubers asking that it doesn't bother me except in a few rare occasions but David Manning is fine.

[@YoshiYamamoto]

Yeah it was corny to ask so many times. If the content is good, people watch it to the very end. I don't think I've watched bad content to the end just because it was said in the video LOL.

[@js_filming7701]

Very interesting... Planning in using my GoPro IN a plane, interested in how this will work. Since its always in direct sun with glass in between and there is no airflow.....