GoPro - Singapore Airlines Cargo Ramp Agent POV at Chicago O'Hare Int'l Airport [01.27.2014]

[@49kittypretty1]

I read your introduction and thank you for using good english and grammar. I love airplanes and I love your video. I’m a new subscriber.

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

@49kittypretty1 😆😆😆 This is one of my favorite comments now, thank you. I try VERY hard to be as grammatically correct as possible, I always have. I attended a college that was very strict and focused on writing, and despite giving my best efforts, I still received complaints from my professors. Nowadays, I type up reports at work daily, and I often get what I've been hearing all my life, having grown up in a lower-income neighborhood and attended public school: "Why do you talk all educated? Why do you sound so white when you talk?" (I'm of Mexican descent) Whatever, my management team loves my reports as do the corporate folks in Europe and all the airlines we deal with. We had a small aircraft damage incident at work a few weeks back, and I asked the involved individuals to write up a small summary of what they saw happen, or what they did prior to and before the incident so that we can try to determine what happened and how to correct it. One of the sheets I got back only said, "I aint seen nuthin" 😆 I mean, I wasn't asking for or expecting much, but I got nothing at all. Unsurprisingly, the employee that wrote that was responsible for the damage, as we already knew, after checking the security cameras. I wish more people realized that writing correctly helps - A LOT.

[@JsFirstUTube]

Thank you so so much😊

[@kreep2900]

it's already been 6 years since this video was uploaded, yet you're still giving hearts on comments, that's just nice

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

Lol, it's been getting a lot of attention lately for some reason. Sometimes I'm just reading the news on my phone and I get a new comment notification.

[@gutinhodofffreefirebrasil104]

Chicago Airport Spotter toop

[@QueenOfNon-Hatred]

Hello I have a plane photo

[@MrDuckkyz]

hahahhahahaha

[@bigonenananana8348]

Ye

[@Patrick-pq3dx]

This was honestly a lot more interesting than I thought it was going to be.

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

Haha, thank you!

[@ekoyudianto6910]

good fidio

[@michaelwoolliscroft8442]

Patrick van Hoek qscnnn

[@ליאליצחקי-ט9ס]

Patrick van Ho

[@thatcoolguyfromindia3393]

Patrick van Hoek I

[@kingarchit8319]

Massive respect for you ground workers You spend your wonderful time to full fill the peace of passengers and work And you still reply to comments after 6years!! Absolute legend man hats off to you.

[@CarmenPatino-bb6dy]

Bu nico

[@NotedName]

I dont know why youtube recommended this to me but its good.

[@jabadatruck6621]

Same

[@linusrehn8011]

Same

[@notkhai_]

Same

[@essaiespinoza809]

Same

[@ammarambia311]

6 years ago , but still hearting people’s comment

[@otavio5093]

The fact that he is still giving hearts to people man u deserve respect

[@jstuttgart]

Very Interesting Indeed. Always blows my mind why ground crew are so poorly paid and underappreciated. Without ground crew everything would grind to a halt. From marshaling, offloading, loading, GPU, ASU, HVAC, pushback, jetbridge (for pax aircraft), you all rock.

[@bradleypeterson2208]

10.50 an hour baby!

[@BrownBoy1223]

jstuttgart that's terrible pay warehouse are starting to pay 12$ for much less work

[@monibstar]

jstuttgart and the weather challenges they have to go through.. is tough.. respect to the ground staff too..

[@TheAfghan72]

At Menzies, they get paid 14.50 an hour and the pay might go up in January.

[@TheVianegon]

I love it is so relax

[@newchannelcheckaboutpage2140]

I do like how you used the small baggage ramp instead of the huge one to open the cargo doors. I’ve seen a lot of planes just use a big ramp. They are pretty much wasting fuel... But you did it the good way. Nice job unloading this 747! Edit: On smaller planes they use small ramps due to cargo door size.

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

It's a lot more maneuverable in the tight gate area and also, the high loaders are needed to start offloading ULDs asap, can't really be wasting time, haha

[@im_lera8151]

❤

[@bargavilaxmi2585]

I love how those two people ran and bumped brings back childhood memories

[@notaperson7678]

Great video. It's nice getting a deeper understanding of what goes on with trading trough air and planes in general. Much respect for the everyday impact your crew has on our lives.

[@selectivelyfunny3194]

“Nooo! You can’t just wave sticks around and make planes follow you” “Haha, Glow stick go brrrr”

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

😂😂😂

[@SXFootballLive]

I have whatch this video over 5 times now, i really enjoyed it, keep up the good work

[@aaron7566]

I remember watching this, now am back and so is everyone else

[@byte_fn]

9 years since this video was uploaded, and youtube is just now recommending this masterpiece to me.

[@intigfx]

Hahaha that shoulder bump at 1:44

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

It's for good luck! :)

[@caprio2882]

hahaha realy :D

[@rattygaming3985]

intigfx I

[@Sam_1ssa]

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[@Sam_1ssa]

I love your video 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@OfficialsnaKs]

The amount of work and attentiveness to handle and ground handle that plane is crazy, props to you 👏

[@glenalan1547]

I love how the vehicles used are so similar yet different, in Ireland we use Wompos (the belt loaders) that have rails on the side and a little cage beside the driver

[@FINSYT976]

This guy is one of the kindest people I’ve ever saw still hearting comments after 10 years!

[@Jimmy-ki8lk]

mad respect to ground crew and atc. they must be looking at the pilot in the cockpit window "hey fck that guy."

[@dylconnaway9976]

BlaZe Overall Gamer Amazing- so many 12 year old gamer "airline pilots" on KZbin these days...

[@dylconnaway9976]

Jimmy おしん Everyone respects each other for the most part. It's all the same industry. Personal conflicts rarely arise most commonly from the fact the pilots don't understand everything a ground crews' job entails, and ground crews don't understand everything the pilots' job entails.

[@Sammakko7]

Royal How does an airline pilot not know any proper grammar then?

[@ЦветозарЦветков-е5о]

@Claudia Washington cant be bad at english and be a pilot. of course he deleted his comment so i dont know how bad he was

[@robertschultz6922]

Awesome job, I have always wanted to work as a ground crew member at a airport but never had the opportunity

[@salto1994]

Another awesome video, being a planespotter myself at Luxembourg Intl Airport and being able to see the cargo handling(Cargolux,Qatar Cargo & etc) from a far, it's nice to see it a POV view. Thanks very much for the vid

[@albertiglesias5309]

Great video Bro. Fellow Ramp rat here. My base of operations is YEG International. You've inspired me to buy a action camera and film point of view video. It's hard to describe to non airport workers what exactly it is we do . It'll be fun to film Marshling, ULD off loading and loading, and finally push back from my TLD push out. Again mad props to you and the rest of your crew. Take care:)

[@AlexPraglowskiAviation]

Wow, that was seriously amazing! Thanks for bringing this amazing footage to us :) It's so cool to see what you guys do, and especially in those harsh weather conditions, too! I'd love to see more footage like this, even if it's just the taxiing and engines being shut down too!

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

Thank you! I appreciate your taking some time to watch this and comment!

[@IBERIA-PTFS]

The video gave me lots of memories when the 747 existed, mainly they are saying that is not going in operation anymore. You are one of the bests who saved a video!! Congrats

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

Plenty of them still exist, just mainly for cargo and not passenger. I did ground ops for 3 different 747 cargo flights today, and I saw Lufthansa's passenger 747-8i at Terminal 5 during my lunch break. They'll be around for a while.

[@9hd-]

I have to do this When my mum drives her car

[@zaviationn]

Viper same lol

[@norihandaud2321]

Hahaha 🇲🇾👍 🤣🤣🤣

[@bradleyparker1384]

Hahaha😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@ТанечкаМалёнкина]

Зхххххххххххххх

[@adamsadi3173]

Me too

[@riktherok]

Finally an amzing first person video of the life on the ramp at an airport! Amazing vid!

[@deadbydaylight1105]

This video was 6 years ago at the Time I'm watching rn

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

It's been a while, haha.

[@happyjh3928]

It has been 9 years since you did this and I have not seen a better skill like that before and on a B747 😮😮😮well done❤❤❤

[@blasphemy5048]

I miss working as a ramp agent 🤧 such an awesome job!

[@imLaxt]

been almost ten years, and this video is still epic

[@CadetClark1996]

I love this video! I love how you show in detail what goes on in terms of loading the airplane from the view of a ramp agent. I've always wanted to have such a job! Keep up the great work!

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

Thanks for watching!

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

***** It's pretty bad when you start out with no experience. But work hard, show the people that matter that you can do the job and want to learn more, and you'll go up the ladder.

[@khalidbsharat8360]

We will be out in the next week

[@gamingcore3113]

Its been 9 years still you are giving hearts ❤💞

[@balto2455]

2:07 anyone notices that guy on the right lol

[@sebastianosettonni8573]

NDABE ZITHA the bouncing man?

[@Proactivebeetleondamic]

Yes

[@ka-tray]

Illusion... your eyes Is god.

[@fxbigtoelilzoui1696]

Hes cold bruh.

[@adamsadi3173]

Hmmmm hmmmm

[@CNGTHEGAMER]

Wow I’m suprised you marshalled the exact same plane I found at Changi airport like a month ago!😂

[@Daniel-lp5fm]

Very good video, I have actually seen a lot of aviation but this is the first video of the ground staff, we hope more! Thank you greetings from Argentina!

[@oradl]

I love how we can see the plane so close and it's amazing

[@kosn4smw]

Please make more of these 30 min videos you can't really imagine how much i enjoyed watching :D . I love this job :D .

[@edward0048]

Thats so cool that finally someone started filming cargo planes😊

[@kevenklayne4211]

Wow that's a huge plane! The biggest I've worked with is a boeing-737(sunwing) when I worked for Trans-Sol and I absolutely LOVED it. Now I'm working for Servisair and the biggest planes we do are Dash-8-300s.

[@IwashereSUI]

737’s are huge

[@Haybay_1999]

My favorite job which made me realize ramp agents and flight attendants are so much better

[@SunSkipper360]

Absolutely awesome. Other than being a commercial pilot this is literally my ideal job. I'm studying aviation at University in the UK at the moment and would FAR prefer to be doing this at Heathrow or Gatwick. This perspective shows just how personal, so to speak, you get with the aircraft and I can only imagine how sweet it must be to marshal in that 747. This may sound weird but this video has inspired me to apply for an airside job like this one this summer. Great video!

[@SunSkipper360]

And I can totally see what you mean about it being stressful. But I bet that's what makes the job so good in a way.

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

First time I marshaled in a 747...it was one of the most incredible moments of my life. I've since done it with MD-11's, 777's, and 737's. You are correct that we do get very personal, in a way, with the aircraft when they are ours on the ground. It's the most satisfying feeling watching them take off once we're done with them. This job is not for everyone, it takes a certain kind of insane mentality to deal with the weather, schedules, and physical aspects, but I do recommend it to everyone who wants to try it out or who wants an aviation career. It's a great place to start off at the airport and get your feet wet. I myself am starting flight school soon, and I wish you the best in your endeavours. Cheers, and thanks for taking some time to watch this video!

[@Roblox_user000]

@@ChicagoAirportSpotter I think 747s are rare

[@tree1818]

This is actually a really cool perspective and honestly this job looks kinda fun

[@Gk-iu6ws]

I’m really interested in planes and all the physics so you just earned your self a subscriber

[@atrerailways7886]

I'm only 15 and this is an excellent example for me in the future nice mate loved it hope the best for you

[@Sammakko7]

adam 20777 dumbass

[@fletcho909]

That's a bit harsh...

[@mediatrix.471]

LONDON OVERGROUND I hope you achieve your dreams!

[@suzannepritchard8440]

Well ur 17 rn

[@qasimahmed445]

Now your 18

[@iseiwainiqolonabuka6947]

Good job!!! Thank you for making our delivery on time!!! Beautiful work!!! Now this the bits we don't usually see while boarding an airline!!! Keep it up and Happy 2018!! Hopefully there will be no snow storm!!

[@LegendaryKid_777]

9 YEARS LATER THIS GOT ON MY RECOMMENDATION

[@SosgamingYT1]

Same

[@YourAverageTroller]

Same

[@EmyEmy-bn3sg]

Same bro

[@tefukarime]

10 years

[@khadijahakthar3452]

Same​@@tefukarime

[@mist4056]

Its been 23 years your still giving hearts and reply good job

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

Lol! 6 years - it's my most-watched video, I think. I enjoy the support. Mostly enjoy people realizing how things work behind the scenes.

[@mist4056]

@@ChicagoAirportSpotter I'm from the future

[@mist4056]

@@ChicagoAirportSpotter in the future marshals will now have jetpacks

[@mist4056]

@@ChicagoAirportSpotter btw since your a ground crew why did the engines had smoked when they are turned off and when they're off do they turn on the extra back engine?

[@nahyan3753]

@@ChicagoAirportSpotter what a legend

[@TruckHomeSwitzerland]

dude sick video! i work in zurich airport as a ramper since a couple months and i'm going to work everyday with a smile on my face, gotta love that plane stuff :) interesting that we do the same job but the whole procedure is completly different. we have tons of savety rules in switzerland, looks kinda more relaxed in chicago.. by the way, it looks cold as s***!!! keep it up man

[@mjlewis7335]

Must be interesting working at the worlds second busiest international airport. Working as ground crew seems like a big responsibility, ya know, ground crews are pretty much what makes it possible for you to get from the plane to the terminal safely and efficiently. You guys pretty much make the airport function.

[@elite9790]

he’s still liking comments after 6 years

[@misterrickroll9428]

I love your content, I'm an aviation enthusiast so I can watch whatever as long as it is about planes and airports. Great Content!

[@Steamyy_]

You got MSFS?

[@misterrickroll9428]

@@Steamyy_ nope, i only have a laptop and it can't run msfs 2020

[@WinterDutchie]

As a pilot, it makes me feel horrible inside that you get underpaid but do such hard work

[@ToptanFiyatinaPerakendeSatis]

Man u are a legend U still reply and give hearts man thank you so much to god that a so heartful human exists💓

[@johnnyshields7332]

Damn! That’s actually really cool!

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

Commissioner_JustinRBLX Thank yoy, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@johnnyshields7332]

joseg2143 I did, thanks!

[@yolandawilliams4058]

I might dab my tell of when i rdo this

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

Yolanda Williams What?

[@OliviaO9]

What an amazing job to do not every one can come face to face with a flipping 747 how amazing

[@Wonkabar007]

Excellent a really unique perspective, I notice you kept the orange batons crossed long after the plane stopped, is that some kind of a rule thing ?

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

Thank you! Yes, I agree. Not too much (or not enough!) footage from this perspective exists. And you're right, I did hold the X longer than usual. On a 747 or similar large aircraft, our rules were to wait until the engines are off as well as the red rotating beacon before setting the main gear wheel chocks. The nose gear chocks are set as soon as the aircraft stops. Then the pilots set the parking brake. Once the main gears are chocked, the mechanic can tell the pilots to release the parking brake and roll back onto the chocks and then set the P-brake again. I wait for the mechanic or one of my fellow ramp agents to signal me to pass that onto the pilots. That's what I did when I placed my wands parallel to each other.

[@Wonkabar007]

Thanks for the info.

[@drago-kun9854]

@@Wonkabar007 you'rewelcome

[@lastwarning8631]

@@ChicagoAirportSpotter I thought you had to do a knife to the neck sign tho?

[@lastwarning8631]

Isn’t that a sign or no?

[@tjplunk12]

I do offload and outbound from Memphis,TN at the FedEx Mega Hub. It is cool to see everyone else’s ramps. We offload 3-5 planes a night and send out 2 777’s overseas.

[@mistertofu]

Oh my goodness! You have an awesome job! I always wanted to be ground crew

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

Thank you. it's got it's ups and downs. I loved doing the job, though. I'm a ramp controller now. I miss working the ground everyday, but it was time to put my big boy pants on, as my boss says, and get a real job with a real schedule. No complaints from me, but I'm jealous of the guys working on the ramp.

[@asiyasultana7710]

Dang 10 years past and this video still good

[@kingarchit8319]

Oh so this is the lightsaber job my friend was talking about Cool

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

Lol

[@claytonhappy3125]

please do more of these i like watching how they take your shipment, i rewatch this many times it would be great if you had more

[@aaronlundqvist7130]

What sign was that at 3:57 after the Stop? What I know is that you gave the measurements to the pilot and then X but that parallell sign... what was that? 😅😁

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

That means "wheel chocks are in position, set parking brakes"

[@aaronlundqvist7130]

@@ChicagoAirportSpotter oh, okay! Thanks!

[@MauricejFleury]

Well done video showing what the ground crew really does do to keep the aircraft moving, you people should be paid more for what you do and the extreme whether you guys work in.

[@nicreel-peel4743]

Maurice Fleury speaking of which how much are they paid?

[@dnolder]

Gotta love the md-11 in the background

[@furrycouponline4888]

So, this is why it can take weeks to get our things. Awesomeness.

[@sstroh08]

FurryCoup Online Correct. Without them it would be years.

[@danielpietnik5962]

Glad I work with dash 8's takes us 15min unloading everything and then we wait an hour for the next flight

[@11natalie28]

That things massive! I flew from O’Hare to Will Rogers in those tin can planes, an American Eagle. I also flew back, we hit a storm on the way to Oklahoma and had a terrifying landing. We then sat in the plane for a few hours waiting for the lightning to die down and to get pulled to the gate. It was just American Airline waiting too, Sprit got pulled in, United got pulled in. It wasn’t the best day I’ve ever had

[@_spike_-dr7fh]

I would probably almost have a heart attack seeing a Boeing 747 driving towards me

[@ohno4539]

Thats an airbus UwU

[@vkobi8208]

@@ohno4539 no

[@1Dont-ask1]

"Taxing" its called not driving cuz it's an air vehicle.. so most of the time it's in air..

[@awg6397]

@@ohno4539 its a Boeing 747, slick

[@wahoowahoo777]

That’s the fun part for me XD

[@darkhunter5256]

I just got off work at my airport and this vid is giving me Vietnam flashbacks thinking im still at work

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

Adagio for Strings or Fortunate Son?

[@darkhunter5256]

@@ChicagoAirportSpotter Fortunate son is what comes to mind in my flashbacks

[@miramzbakhari2610]

@@ChicagoAirportSpotter I need to learn how to do this because I need to bee a traffic police at my house when my cousin come with his car

[@CenturyEmergencyPhotography]

can you do more videos of this if your work is ok with it?

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

I have about 2-3 dozen more, just no time to edit and upload them all!

[@CenturyEmergencyPhotography]

alright

[@georgezhang1543]

You are lucky to see a queen of the skies. That's a big jet close up

[@txrnipp1212]

Amazing job

[@invictus_1245]

I just started working for a shipping company that uses passenger and cargo planes to get our deliveries out, and it's really interesting seeing the physical side of routing and transfers.

[@TDKn1ght]

1:45 bump it!

[@Plane_aviation123]

10 years ago and youtube add this just,wow.

[@thegreentechtho1484]

Now when I wait at an airport and I see them work I will think "Oh shit mad respect to you guys"

[@adilahmedchowdhury1582]

You are giving heart even after too much years

[@yudhistira7369]

how does it feel to be a plane parker?

[@JacobYT5050]

You mean “Ground Crew”

[@xerophyx_aviation]

@@JacobYT5050they meant Peter Parker.

[@Andy1076]

Marshalling AND driving the loader! Your crew count on you to keep them safe during the process, kudos to you! Winter operations too, I am feeling cold just watching lol

[@Sammakko7]

Ground Services X in real life (gone sexual)

[@gav4199]

I like planes cause they show you a beautiful part of the world, in plus they protect r country

[@TandilAviacion]

Excelente el canal... me gusta mucho su contenido, saludos desde Argentina! Fabian.

[@liliamamatova5752]

4:48

[@danielpetrucci8952]

Working the ramp is stressful but also fun

[@leoja4578]

What are those spinning things below your feet while you're directing the plane?

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

Leo Tapp Those are the rollers that move the cargo. Cargo is usually stacked on "cookie sheets" which are basically giant, flat pieces of metal on which freight is stacked and those rollers make contact with the bottom of the sheets and move them on/off the plane.

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

Leo Tapp And they're moving here because it was so cold out, we jam the joysticks that we use to operate them to keep the hydraulic fluid warm so that our chabces of having an equipment failure in the middle of a ground operation decrease.

[@leoja4578]

joseg2143 Ah, I see! Thanks for the information!

[@Bukkshot95]

@@ChicagoAirportSpotter interesting. I'm originally from Chicago, however I do this same job in Tampa. I was wondering why you had the rollers on that whole time. I'm thinking on coming back to O'Hare soon, I'll be a completely different environment if and when I do.

[@walterinelukeman1487]

Jesus. When I’m looking at the past I think. Man, those were the good days.

[@TheDharizTumaque]

i was a ramp agent before here in the Philippines is there any possible way of being one there? i love that job so much

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

Absolutely, I know a few people out here with work visas/permits who are working towards U.S. residency or citizenship. As long as you have a clean record and can pass a background check and a drug test, you're good.

[@DFW_Spotter]

Crazy how y’all have to get on a big o’ thing just for the pilots to see yall

[@Braapman_]

what is your jobs official title, i really want to get this job at my local airport and are you hired by the airport or a airline? thanks

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

Ramp agent, ground handling agent - those are the two names/titles I would recognize this job as.

[@xx-gl3vv]

Braapman just remember that a ramp agent must do the cleaning inside the plane like get out the trash from bathrooms, pilot cabin and and mop the gallys floor, thats my job in menzies aviation as a rampy

[@vietlover92d58]

J L the Operation Manager at Menzies wanted to hire me, but instead gave me a free ticket to dalgs station manager. No interview needed as Menzies already saw potential in me. Its a 50 cent difference

[@P25AES]

With Allegiant Airlines, we are Ground Operation Agents (GOA's)

[@jackod3410]

I actually enjoyed watching this. It was interesting

[@amogelangmooka]

2024 gang😭😭

[@CodyRecordz-CRZ]

Na 2024 you are young er wow

[@CodyRecordz-CRZ]

2099

[@Jakevr303]

Hi

[@ImrealproatRoblox]

Who want back the Boeing 747?😢

[@SamsungTV-pf4vk]

Yeah, it’s 2024 🤦‍♂️

[@1019bulldog]

I work at UPS and we had similar situation with our 757. Except it was our main cargo door that was frozen shut. We had to break out our deice truck and blast it for about two minutes to get it to bust loose. Ingenuity at its finest during some of the crapiest conditions around.

[@yliu1683]

Amazing video!!! Deserve a sub

[@silentkiller6445]

I don't know why do youtube wait 6 year to recommend me this but it's good

[@y0shi.mp445]

When your getting your payment or taxes 1:44

[@kiddsupremetme6321]

Hats of for the ground workers at the airport 🙏

[@empirelover]

Can someone tell me what this siren/noise is at 24:55? I love it! :D

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

Not sure what it is called other than it's a warning alarm for when the deck of the loader is coming down.

[@empirelover]

@@ChicagoAirportSpotter Thanks anyways!

[@tg5369]

It’s a movement klaxon. The louder it is, the closer to it you are, so you need to double check if you’re around it to ensure there isn’t going to be a collision of some sorts. Vertical or horizontal.

[@empirelover]

@@tg5369 You're awesome! Thanks for the answer :)

[@rmohammed9269]

That was the best time of my life back in the 80s and 90s . Virgin Atlantic PIA Air India Jal All my flights was Combe I was top side loader that was the best time of my life

[@Drnken229]

Your main objective as a Cargo Ramp Agent. Saying Fuck or Goddammit. ;D

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

Peter Parker I say that on a regular basis even when I'm not at work, lol...

[@Drnken229]

I see haha

[@FrostyLego22]

Wow b 747 is my fav plane also good vid

[@blando2927]

I’m 10 and I, really interested in these kind of stuff