Gordeeva & Grinkov - 1988 Olympics LP - Classical Medley

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@dorothygale1104
@dorothygale1104 3 жыл бұрын
I remember that during the U.S. coverage of this performance, as G&G were taking the ice, Dick Button said: “Keep an eye on him. He does a superlative job of presenting her. Never overshadowing her, yet maintaining the quality of the performance.” This comment encapsulates the essence of the male’s role in partnering, whether it be skating or the dance. Ekaterina was like a beautiful diamond and Sergei was like a Tiffany ring setting supporting and presenting a beautiful diamond so that it sparkles to its fullest extent. This is the essence of great partnering. Button’s comment was very insightful and was the highest compliment that could be paid to any male partner.
@jondavwal13
@jondavwal13 3 жыл бұрын
Randy Gardner explained that he was the stem and Tai Babilonia was the flower.
@rachelmorales3870
@rachelmorales3870 9 ай бұрын
There will never be another Gordeeva and Grinkov. They were perfection. ❄️✨
@hunkydory8500
@hunkydory8500 4 жыл бұрын
I find myself watching the Gordeeva & Grinkov performances over and over again. There just isn't a pair couple that compares, imo. Beauty & Magic!
@christineraymond485
@christineraymond485 2 жыл бұрын
I wish the powers that be would post more videos. There must be hundred of them.
@manfredfinch
@manfredfinch 11 жыл бұрын
Their unison and body line is so exquisite. BEST PAIR EVER.
@annshipley-harper2124
@annshipley-harper2124 4 жыл бұрын
Pure poetry in motion
@cjm7764
@cjm7764 3 жыл бұрын
Doesnt even seem real. Most coaches have to yell for a semi okay unison. These two were born for it. Once in a lifetime magic
@genednomyar3383
@genednomyar3383 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the finest pair performance in Figure Skating history.
@karennoble4957
@karennoble4957 4 жыл бұрын
Gene Dnomyar, i fully agree with you. Wonderful artistry, technicality, lovely costumes and lovely classical music. Perfect joyful overall performance, unforgettable.!!
@kseniasolomentseva2274
@kseniasolomentseva2274 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely aree.
@taj8231
@taj8231 4 жыл бұрын
I cant tell if i am looking at a dream or reality. Thats how good they were. Absolutley gorgeous.
@joanthemadxxxxxx1832
@joanthemadxxxxxx1832 3 жыл бұрын
GOAT✨ so far no one has surpassed them in coordination and elegance. Katia is so sweet skating, she's like a ballerina, you always enjoy each one of her presentations, it is incredible and Sergei, what am I going to say about him if he's the best male in pair skating history.
@tyboogie1982
@tyboogie1982 4 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest Olympic performances of all time!
@28.107Омг
@28.107Омг 3 жыл бұрын
Я помню себя маленькой, дома было тепло, на печке колыхал огонь, на улице настоящая зима, холодно, а у меня дома уютно, зимние каникулы и я с удовольствием смотрю через черно белый телевизор фигурное катание этой чудесной пары и я очень счастлива, хочеться вернутся назад в детство, в ссср
@renarena499
@renarena499 3 жыл бұрын
Вы описали мое детство точь в точь!
@biancahotca3244
@biancahotca3244 2 жыл бұрын
Your not there now? Holidays are not usually in February. In communist Romania we had st. Nicolas day, in February, not Christmas.
@janethartwig774
@janethartwig774 4 жыл бұрын
For me, he was the Clint Walker of the skating world: a perfect male in every way, looks, talent and character. There will never be another Sergei.
@susanblue5171
@susanblue5171 4 жыл бұрын
I agree love me some G&G. I'm in love with them.
@carmenrodriguez5320
@carmenrodriguez5320 3 жыл бұрын
Love GG❤🌺❤🌺
@АленкаАленка-з5м
@АленкаАленка-з5м 4 жыл бұрын
На их катание можно смотреть вечно! Как жаль Сергея! Царствие ему небесное, вечное восхищение и память! А Катюше - здоровья, сил и молодости! Люблю их с детства. Сейчас так не катаются. А жаль...
@НинаШумакова-ъ2р
@НинаШумакова-ъ2р 4 жыл бұрын
Какие лёгкие, кажутся бестелесными, как красиво катаются! Какие отточенные движения, просто любуешься ими и радуешься! Высочайшее мастерство!
@gregberg5559
@gregberg5559 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely extraordinary. I'm not sure I have ever seen finer unison in a pairs program - in the jumps, in the spins, in the steps sequences - they are in perfect sync.
@dmwilcox5897
@dmwilcox5897 6 жыл бұрын
Greg Berg That axle-loop-loop-salchow-butterfly combination is simply stunning. Have never seen anything as sync as that in my life.
@Melynda-uf5cg
@Melynda-uf5cg 4 жыл бұрын
The look of joy on her face when they finish is precious.
@lanaterner2795
@lanaterner2795 3 жыл бұрын
Как Сережа аккуратно и внимательно(просто ,ювелирно!) обращается и поддерживает Катю,а как гармонично и потрясающе ,точно делают все движения,какая легкость!Такого больше никогда не будет в парном фигурном катания,на это способна только настоящая любовь!❤
@maryjobush9431
@maryjobush9431 4 жыл бұрын
this is/was as close to perfection as we will ever in the sports world and probably in all of life.
@СветаМалько-ш5д
@СветаМалько-ш5д 3 жыл бұрын
Слилось все и музыка,и катание,и эмоции....асе единое целое! Программа большая,разная,но как прекрасна она.
@ОльгаСорокина-у4й
@ОльгаСорокина-у4й 4 жыл бұрын
Как они прекрасны! Эталонное катание
@tippi0117
@tippi0117 7 жыл бұрын
these are have charisma. they're both physically gorgeous and so in sync with each other's movements. no other ice skating pair has ever come close to their performances. just watch their bodies move together, it's as if they're one.
@iReporteriReporting
@iReporteriReporting 4 жыл бұрын
They were beautiful together. No one else as a skating couple had such grace, skill and joy. How sad to watch again, now that he's gone, but the feeling is obe of pure emotion. Skating lovers.
@АлександрЗаваров-е1ы
@АлександрЗаваров-е1ы 4 жыл бұрын
Абсолютный синхрон полная гармония
@misukajin8580
@misukajin8580 3 жыл бұрын
The most graceful dou in the ice skating history...legends
@marthaanderson2967
@marthaanderson2967 10 жыл бұрын
Never has there been such a beautiful pair such as G&G. Perfection goodness and beauty,
@beckycottrellbabazam3
@beckycottrellbabazam3 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely incredible even now and still my favorite pair of all time💜
@МаринаСандик
@МаринаСандик 4 жыл бұрын
Вот МАСТЕРА высочайшего класса!
@46foryounger
@46foryounger 4 жыл бұрын
She was so young and precious her expression at the end was so cute 🤗
@patagris6710
@patagris6710 2 жыл бұрын
Лучший олимпийский прокат за всю историю фигурного катания! Скорость, одухотворенность, абсолютная синхронность, чистота исполнения!
@deniselovesglitter
@deniselovesglitter 4 жыл бұрын
There will never be another G&G. If you want to know what a pairs program should look like, just watch them. It’s them ... and everyone else. ❣️♥️❣️
@sharonramone7186
@sharonramone7186 4 жыл бұрын
No other pairs team even came close to G+G. They were perfection. They skated as one. Just beautiful and totally mesmerizing!
@Rena1a
@Rena1a 6 жыл бұрын
Гордеева-Гриньков!))) Они триумфаторы..Олицетворение весны, полёта..
@svetlanav9624
@svetlanav9624 3 жыл бұрын
...и любви и нежности...
@meechibell9602
@meechibell9602 3 жыл бұрын
Watching them still gives me goosebumps! All these years later and they are still the best pair to ever grace the ice! Their beauty and love was like watching a real life fairy tale, and it was truly magical!
@TheCopper05
@TheCopper05 12 жыл бұрын
They have to be the best pair skating team ever. They could kick any of todays pairs team butt, that is how good this team is.
@ravenel2
@ravenel2 4 жыл бұрын
He was so calm and unruffled that he looks like he was just out for any practice skate on any ordinary day, just there to pick her up and twirl her around a bit....
@МаринаМакаревич-ф3е
@МаринаМакаревич-ф3е 2 жыл бұрын
Это выступление считаю наивысшим пилотажем и в истории катания этой пары и вообще в фигурном катании.Техническое исполнение элементов,скорость катания,синхронность,эстетика ,музыкальное соправождение-всё на высоте.
@ЭляКулматова
@ЭляКулматова 5 жыл бұрын
Великолепно,синхронность,красота,скорость,катаются как единое целое,Катя такая миниатюрная,милая,он так бережно ее держит
@Инна-ж1е
@Инна-ж1е 2 жыл бұрын
Катя рассказывала. Он однажды уронил её на тренировке, сотрясение. Потом просидел всё время около палаты, весь извёлся, просил у родителей Кати прощения, хотя никто его не винил. На первой после травмы тренировке она сразу почувствовала, что Сергей изменил манеру держать её, очень крепко и надёжно
@flyboy13131
@flyboy13131 4 жыл бұрын
They haven’t been beat yet, at least in my estimation . That kind of perfection brings a tear to your eye . We’ve had great pairs dancers , but I’ve never seen the precision like these two combined with the seemingly effortless look . To be able to achieve this is really a lifetime of practice and dedication . Obviously it feeds their souls , and also the audience’s as well .
@ProudKansan08
@ProudKansan08 10 жыл бұрын
I bet they were the NICEST Russian skaters since the others I've seen in the past, always seem to have a superiority complex, act like they can't think another couple is good, can't smile, and act like total snobs. I always loved watching them skate and sometimes wished that the US skaters had that certain something extra to them that this couple did. There may or may not be better couples during their tenure on the skating circuit, or after, but Gordeeva and Grinkov were mesmerizing and they had something extra special about them. Can't really explain it, but even now that skating has evolved since and skating may have gotten better (or not, depending on how much of a purist one is), I don't think anyone has the charisma, the magic, that something extra special that this couple had. Of course, I'm speaking about pair skating, and not pair ice dancing. That's a whole different, beautiful sport all of its own.
@ravenel2
@ravenel2 4 жыл бұрын
You can’t criticize Russian skaters before the end of the Cold War, they had a life you cannot possibly imagine and they were very humble. Sergei especially was on a higher level, but so many Russian skaters look like they would have been great friends-Artur and Natalia, Bechke and Petrov, Rodnina etc. The man of the pair that finished fourth in Lillehammer, Naumov, was indeed a jerk to Sergei Grinkov, telling him he didn’t improve and that he should have stayed professional so Naumov would have the bronze medal. That’s crazy. But there are jerks in all countries...
@tarantala111
@tarantala111 9 жыл бұрын
Completely fabulous! No couple has ever done it better.
@niamhsorcha2727
@niamhsorcha2727 8 жыл бұрын
+shirley leah -- I'm sorry to disagree: Ludmila Belousova and Oleg Protopopov
@jondavwal13
@jondavwal13 7 жыл бұрын
Nah. Nobody, sorry.
@mariadeolindarocha768
@mariadeolindarocha768 Жыл бұрын
@@niamhsorcha2727 Who?! Sorry, never eard of them.
@kathymichael6499
@kathymichael6499 Жыл бұрын
This performance was my introduction to their beauty and talent. I was so amazed to watch them skate here, and then win the gold, that I started watching as many of their performances as I could. But this has remained my favorite throughout the years. Just exquisite in every way.
@djs2356
@djs2356 8 жыл бұрын
Simply the best......ever!
@Nilufar-iz8vg
@Nilufar-iz8vg 4 жыл бұрын
Все что было в СССР было шедевром. Такое катание к сожалению никогда не будет больше как и Советского Союза
@olgaarvidsson8613
@olgaarvidsson8613 4 жыл бұрын
Чорнобиль? Ви дурню не меліть
@taggggy
@taggggy 4 жыл бұрын
Особенным шедевром были расстрелы сталинские
@lilyamuslimova6160
@lilyamuslimova6160 2 жыл бұрын
@@olgaarvidsson8613 Причем тут Чернобыль?
@agata_888
@agata_888 Жыл бұрын
Тренировались Катя и Сергей в США у Марины Зуевой! Вот такой вот «шедевральный» ваш ссср 😂
@Nilufar-iz8vg
@Nilufar-iz8vg Жыл бұрын
@@agata_888 Нашу память о Родной Державе из души не вычеркнуть никак, Хоть и льют глумливые отраву, правда всё равно развеет мрак, И откроем памяти мы дверцу о стране явившей всем пример Пламенем написано на сердце Родина моя -СССР!!!!!!!!
@ЕленаБондаренкоЭйвон
@ЕленаБондаренкоЭйвон 4 жыл бұрын
Принц и принцесса!
@JM-bm7gg
@JM-bm7gg 4 жыл бұрын
Thier love story was even more beautiful!
@NaDiodessa
@NaDiodessa 3 жыл бұрын
Браво. Если ещё добавить своих воспоминаний как мы это смотрели, семьями собирались, болели, переживали, восхищались, радовались, гордились.
@karennoble4957
@karennoble4957 4 жыл бұрын
Lovely pair, the artistry, technicality, great taste in beautiful classical music, Lovely, elegant, eye pleasing costumes and so in sync and in love. So sad, he died so young but he died while doing something he loved! But for her... This pair will be remembered!! Does anyone know the composer at the beginning and end?? Mendelssohn? Thank you. In the middle it is Chopin.
@ТаняКретова-ю6з
@ТаняКретова-ю6з 4 жыл бұрын
Отличная пара ! Таких уже больше ни когда не будет !
@МаринаИванова-я2п5д
@МаринаИванова-я2п5д 4 жыл бұрын
Все ищут любовь.Вот она !
@jonbekket8826
@jonbekket8826 4 жыл бұрын
Господи как мило!
@brihmendiola4347
@brihmendiola4347 4 жыл бұрын
There is pair skating and then there is/was G&G. Irreplaceable.
@mavisy3896
@mavisy3896 4 жыл бұрын
these two together are so amazing and just incredible in this. the fact that the girl in this was so young when she did this amazes me even more.
@svetlanakilina7003
@svetlanakilina7003 3 жыл бұрын
Потрясающая пара была,всегда за них болела в детстве
@shalom968
@shalom968 4 жыл бұрын
Total perfection.
@ГалинаТитова-т1б
@ГалинаТитова-т1б Жыл бұрын
Огромное спасибо Вам за прекрасное видео и Танцы Шедевр. Всего самого наилучшего вам в жизни Успехов во всем Счастья Любви Взаимной и Радости в жизни вам желаю. Благодарю вас.
@Всемпривет-г7п
@Всемпривет-г7п 4 жыл бұрын
Непревзойденно!!
@nancymanuel8536
@nancymanuel8536 4 жыл бұрын
My gosh it's been a long time since I saw those to skate together I forget how tiny she was back then
@dmmchugh3714
@dmmchugh3714 4 жыл бұрын
Love this era of their skating. They are IMHO the greatest pairs skaters ever, surpassing even Rodnina and Zaitsev. Unmatched unison, power and style.
@phoenixshade3
@phoenixshade3 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this without the original commentary. Jim McKay has an irritating way of sounding condescending even when he doesn't know what he's talking about. An amazing moment from this routine that I have never forgotten since the live broadcast is at 3:50 when she bobs her head with the music for those three strong beats. This wasn't part of the choreography; it was a pure expression of joy.
@ravenel2
@ravenel2 4 жыл бұрын
Do you mean Dick Button? Jim MacKay hardly spoke at all.
@phoenixshade3
@phoenixshade3 4 жыл бұрын
@@ravenel2 Hardly at all but when he does, he adds little of value. His job isn't necessarily to be an expert, but he should be able to sound more knowledgeable than a random dude in his living room. Maybe I'm not fair to him, because for years, he did the New York Marathon, my sport at the time, and there he always sounded like a condescending buffoon. A perfect storm of arrogance and ignorance.
@светасоколова-ф4р
@светасоколова-ф4р 4 жыл бұрын
Красиво, но так печально.
@Aprilme2
@Aprilme2 4 жыл бұрын
I had to watch to see if they were as good as I remembered....yup!
@ЛюдмилаНовикова-ь6с
@ЛюдмилаНовикова-ь6с 3 жыл бұрын
Очень жаль, что так рано ушёл из жизни Сергей
@debrazawlocki3975
@debrazawlocki3975 4 жыл бұрын
Such perfect unison. They were amazing!
@genXrVT
@genXrVT 7 жыл бұрын
Perfection
@топЖигалова
@топЖигалова 4 жыл бұрын
Технологии ушли вперед. Но кажется, что они уже далеко впереди.
@claudiacon
@claudiacon 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect 💗
@ganeshgarg8225
@ganeshgarg8225 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing.
@oidowgundegmaa7245
@oidowgundegmaa7245 2 жыл бұрын
Legend couple ❤⛸⛸❤⛸⛸❤❤🌹🌹🌷🌷I miss Sergei 🕊🕊
@jondavwal13
@jondavwal13 12 жыл бұрын
No other pair ever came or comes close. They were competing in a different sport.
@stevebbuk
@stevebbuk 4 жыл бұрын
For me this couple did come close, if you're also allowing past performances as you seem to be: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHjPeGZ-qthggbM
@ft-je3rs
@ft-je3rs 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Wallach absolutely
@elizabethpease947
@elizabethpease947 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Wallach : I don’t know about that . Rodnina and Zaitsev did pretty well while they were together. Even Dick Button made a comment when their music stopped in the middle of a competition, and they kept on skating with no music.
@dorothygale1104
@dorothygale1104 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevebbuk You are right, close but no cigar. G&G beat Mishkutenov & Dmitriev in the ‘94 Olympics. Had G&G not turned professional after the ‘88 Olympics, they very well would have been 3 time Gold medalists.
@stevebbuk
@stevebbuk 3 жыл бұрын
@@dorothygale1104 It's possible Dorothy, but check this performance if I might be so bold. Maybe I'm Columbo without the cigar after all..kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKXMZaKYrc1qotE
@carmenrodriguez5320
@carmenrodriguez5320 4 жыл бұрын
Maravilloso.
@rdoble
@rdoble 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome.
@RemySimon-ph9ij
@RemySimon-ph9ij 3 ай бұрын
Forever in our hearts🙏💞🩷⛸️⛸️
@waitwhat564
@waitwhat564 3 жыл бұрын
Wow!
@auroracrotti5552
@auroracrotti5552 4 жыл бұрын
Meravigliosi e straordinari ❤️
@лили-у7п
@лили-у7п 4 жыл бұрын
🍁🍀🌹🌸🌻🌼🍁🌷bravo
@NYCBlonde
@NYCBlonde 4 жыл бұрын
This is great in a kind of cheesy late '80s way. Russian fans, don't freak out--I actually prefer their '94 routine. This program is sort of--okay, this is how you it it, yeah yeah yeah. Sure, it's well done. But it's by the book. The '94 LP was much more--THIS is how you do it. Even if it wasn't technically perfect. What I'm saying is--the '94 LP was *artistically* perfect. This just doesn't get me that excited. The '94 LP--THAT blew me away.
@barbarazuloaga1650
@barbarazuloaga1650 4 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but disagree, but if you see the 2 programs , they both skated beautiful & almost perfect ( she was only 15 yrs & he was 19 ) barley 20 .. if u put any 2 skaters to skate together with their beautiful perfect lines their unison & also elegance after pairing them together only 3 yrs prior from winning the Gold ( I’m sorry but I’ve seen many unitary skater alone , pair skaters , & pair ice skaters) & they have said when interviewed as Scott & Tessa ( that skated together for since they were barely 5 & 7 ) for them to go to the olympics when they were 17-19 & they came in 3rd ( been already skating for 12 yrs ) & to put G& G together together ONLY 3 yrs prior ( they had won already Gold medals in Teens World Competitions & then they moved up into Adults World Competition ( I believe they only Gold medals only 1 yrs they received a Silver on all their all the competitions before 88 Olympics ( won Gold) & from there they were UNBEATABLE ... so to me to have place to skate together only three years at a tender age of 11going on 12 ( ( for Katia) & Sergie 4 yrs above her... to me these two ( G&G) skated beautifully together in Calgary ( 88 Olympics) & they have been the best even , though they were put to together & they accomplished so so much for them to be put as pairs only 3 yrs together & to me as many that know the sport have & still say ( THAT G & G ) WERE THE BEST PAIRS SKATERS OF ALL TIMES & who knows how much more ( if the tragic death of Sergei at the age of only 28) that these 2 would have Accomplished ! It was very Sad 😢 what Katia had to endure, lost her partner in life, her companion, the love ❤️ of her life, her husband , father to their 3 yr old baby girl name Daria ( she is a replica of Sergei) , the only man she has really LOVED & GAVE her ❤️ to ( since she was only 14 ) though she married again about 6-7 yrs later (also gold medalist name Ilik ) & has another another daughter ) in the year 2015 she divorced.. Cause deep inside Sergei was & will always be HER ONE & ONLY TRUE & forever LOVE ❤️! , ( Katia had to endure on how to a life w/out HER SERGEI at a young age of 24 . R.I.P. SERGEI ( u are truly missed) 🙏🏼😇❤️😘😘😘😘
@dorvilltean3649
@dorvilltean3649 4 жыл бұрын
The section 2:22-3:02 is just so dramatic and united, I have to keep replaying it
@1954camillo
@1954camillo 3 жыл бұрын
Livello di salti in parallelo, armonia, sincronismo ed espressività che potrebbero competere con le migliori coppie attuali e considerata la grande evoluzione del pattinaggio attuale, questo è la conferma della straordinarietà di questa coppia
@AmusedChild
@AmusedChild 6 жыл бұрын
So magical.
@mariadagloriaermida8453
@mariadagloriaermida8453 4 жыл бұрын
Meu Deus! Que coisa mais linda do mundo!!!!
@khadijabakirou390
@khadijabakirou390 2 жыл бұрын
رائعين جداا🥰
@Инна-ж1е
@Инна-ж1е 4 жыл бұрын
На этих кадрах еще могу смотреть за их гениальным катанием. Но более поздние выступления, когда Катя уже после рождения ребёнка, не могу смотреть, просто физически больно на подкрутках, поддержках, прямо хочется остановить, отправить Сергея на обследования, чтобы нашли пораньше его эту проблему с сердцем
@ЕкатеринаЮркова-б4ы
@ЕкатеринаЮркова-б4ы 4 жыл бұрын
Вы тоже заметили Чувствуется что он катается через боль Это очень заметно на ОИ в Лиллехаммере
@ОльгаРоманова-ц7л2е
@ОльгаРоманова-ц7л2е 3 жыл бұрын
Это сейчас,смотришь видео,зная печальный конец,поэтому и пристальнее смотришь на Сергея,жить бы да жить ему,такой жизнерадостный!!!
@LloydJJ18
@LloydJJ18 9 жыл бұрын
they remind of me of menudo 1995
@remysimon6819
@remysimon6819 7 ай бұрын
Rest in peace Sergei✝️🙏💐❤️
@sammavacaist
@sammavacaist 4 жыл бұрын
The GOAT
@ninbalderas7469
@ninbalderas7469 3 жыл бұрын
I was born in 1988
@ncisducky4ever
@ncisducky4ever 12 жыл бұрын
Oh, okay. Thanks for the clarification...sorry :)
@npe1
@npe1 12 жыл бұрын
Torvill and Dean are ice dancers. This is pairs skating. They are two completely different events and disciplines. Ice dancers don't perform jumps, lifts above the waist or skating spins like you see here such as sit spins, camel spins or indeed pair spins. You are totally confusing two different events in our sport.
@colleengaskill2792
@colleengaskill2792 Жыл бұрын
They are so very good, but as the years went by and they matured, they developed a deeper level of expression.
@npe1
@npe1 12 жыл бұрын
No worries. Don't feel too bad as this is a common error.
@vkatus1955
@vkatus1955 Ай бұрын
2024 többet kerek
@НатальяРомашова-ж2з
@НатальяРомашова-ж2з Жыл бұрын
Как она на него смотрела...
@ГалинаРадченко-щ1ш
@ГалинаРадченко-щ1ш Ай бұрын
Тут як
@ncisducky4ever
@ncisducky4ever 12 жыл бұрын
This pair was terrific but don't leave out Torvill and Dean from Great Britain...the 1984 Olympics show that they were one of the best pairs of all time.
@jondavwal13
@jondavwal13 3 жыл бұрын
Sigh. Please know what you are posting before you post about it. I won't even explain why your comment is nonsense.
@Նանենանյան
@Նանենանյան 4 жыл бұрын
Было и хорошее и плохое.
@Mjjo15
@Mjjo15 6 жыл бұрын
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