Gorgc malding at his CM for leaving lane on 5

Gorgc goes full mald mode after Crystal Maiden 5 leaves the lane and lashes out.
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[@chikin6146]

To be fair, Gorc is pretty much correct. He's practically playing 2v1 in the lane where if CM was there, there's pretty much a chance to go on Sky or something.

[@heronnv2]

2x1 in lane with sky and brood is brutal. On top of that Marci is a hero that is a lot better when you have a ally to play with.

[@timurmambetov3260]

He is bad just because, if he wan tto die, he must wait 5 sec and buy glove. It is significant.

[@leonbishop7404]

@@timurmambetov3260 but that doesnt make cm right

[@thechinamigos6802]

@@timurmambetov3260 You would make the same mistake he did. No one can not tilt in a situation of 2v1 against one of the most strongest harass lanes ever. Brood has very little losing matchups and sky freely bullies you in 2v1. It is so tilting to be in that situation that you die there. No human can withstand the psychological stress of not wanting to go for a cs there.

[@knkaitlog]

he didnt use his E

[@faithfulfilo7994]

Hearing this CM actually pisses me off so much man. I don't care if Gorgc is pro, divine, or herald... This CM is practically AFK making a rotation like that on such a slow moving hero NOT EVEN WITH BOOTS OR LACE let alone knowing if he can secure a kill on mid. "WHAT MORE CAN I DO" BY THE WAY. The audacity- I can't believe Gorgc didn't tilt more that is absolutely infuriating.

[@VKT29]

agree with you

[@Wolf-zs9vc]

it might not be a thing in your games, but securing 4 minute runes is a big part of high elo dota (its arguable if CM could/should have died mid to be able to TP bot..) if he really had last pick then I would tilt also if my carry picked marci into brood when naga is in the pool. Its pure grief

[@faithfulfilo7994]

@@Wolf-zs9vc as slow as CM is, I just can't see it being worthwhile unless his safelane is established.

[@ebbesan9051]

@@Wolf-zs9vc 4 min rune ? the important rune spawns at 6 min. noone needs to secure the small runes dafuq

[@Wolf-zs9vc]

my b u are right @@ebbesan9051

[@Blancocomolasnubes]

Gorc was right cm is a brood counter, lv2 cm plus any hero outrades brood :3

[@Wint9999]

true, cm is one of those heroes that prevents brood from having a free game cuz of frostbite

[@Blancocomolasnubes]

@@Wint9999 and nova is a 45 AS slow for 5.5 sec, rlly good against spider lings as well

[@miko8681]

He is scared of sky, man reach immortal not knowing how to buy raindrops chaddota btw.

[@Phike9391]

What a dumb excuse, "you picked this hero against this hero so not my fault I'm not there to help"

[@VKT29]

CM has the logic of a person offended by life

[@FatToti]

Love watching heralds argue. CM is 100% in the wrong no matter what hero gorp picks

[@XIplupIX]

The thing he was not trolling, he deemed the lane unplayable, we didnt see the context beforehand. So we cant really judge. It could be possible that gorgc and cm inted lvl 2 and it would be unlanable anyway so he might atleast try ot help others lanes who knows. IN the end obth are more or less at the same rank. And gorgc argues rather than trying to win. Cm was atleast silent and not perma flaming.

[@nowbacktome]

if CM just occasionally use her nukes or disable on anyone of the 2, preferably skywrath, they wouldn't be able to play that aggresive. Or if she start pulling creeps and wasting skywrath time to disrupt the pull then maybe gorgc would have enough time to get exp/items to sustain better. But the only argument this CM have is "i am pos 5 what can i do". pretty stupid argument if you ask me

[@miko8681]

His head just consist of being a chad without actually a brain to use.

[@Wolf-zs9vc]

if you look at it isolated like you do, then maybe yes. If you understand a bit of Dota, you understand that the CM is securing 4 minute Runes for mid, a very smart play in high elo dota. Now it is arguable if CM could have just died to bat so he could have been able to TP bot right away. But Gorgc knew all this, he saw it all happen. He could have not stepped out into the lane as tilted as he was and die. Also if its true that he had last pick in this game, and willingly picked marci into brood lane then he deserves it even more. That is pure grief if naga is still in the pool and he has last pick.

[@exploreallday8400]

Chaddota is one of the most toxic pub players out there.

[@Nevermorepicker]

iirc he's not a support main either.

[@miko8681]

@@Nevermorepicker I'm not a support main either but I know how to lane against a brood and sky when you have a combo with your carry.

[@connoremmerson9104]

I feel like this can be shared blame though, last picked a bad lane and maiden didn't do enough in lane

[@shadycipher2923]

Marci and CM against sky and brood is pretty, good i dont know why this cm is still talking, they can practically kill sky everytime he shows up on lane

[@embeeeeeeeeeeeeert4554]

Winnable lane i would say. CM is a fkng beast in laning stage with a proper sustain both mana and healing

[@megarussell2030]

why didn't he say the line everyone is waiting to hear xD

[@heemro4356]

just had to wait 2 seconds to buy gloves

[@randomstuff2097]

I think CM is right picking Marci vs Sky and brood just asking for the lane to get dumpster...

[@undo7711]

leaving Marci in lane would make it worse I suppose. that's what support is about to babysit the carries not to fckng roam with under 300 movespeed with no boots or even laces

[@randomstuff2097]

@@undo7711 | picking marci vs sky and brood |

[@Nevermorepicker]

the idea is to let cm drain sky's mana and dies (creating space) so gorgc can get cs. not about to get ran over or not.

[@miko8681]

You can dumpster the lane with marci and cm combo wym? You are underestimating cm freeze ability and marci jump🤣 clown can't even calculate how much damage both combo can do.

[@mrblack6441]

Welp that last play like why would u try to last hit if u have very low hp? Griever?

[@RR-kq4qq]

thats me when i go pos 1(ancient 3), literally 3/5 games the support leave for bounty when not needed, does pull without stacking before when enemy is pressuring and i cant get any creep in lane and sometimes i will die too trying to farm, and if im trying to explain them that i need them there they just grief on purpose after and i get reported. dota life man:)

[@lapirazo6461]

Just find a party friend, if u found a good player after playing with them jjust add and ask them to play

[@RR-kq4qq]

@@lapirazo6461 Party dota is quite awful, i get 1/5 games (at least) with smurfs in solo queue..meanwhile in party dota (which i have played a lot) there are like 3/5 with smurfs in games, there are multiple reasons for it, too much to explain for a comment, but already tried that ^^

[@b0yxx]

chaddota more like shatdota

[@vibhav1026]

kinda weird that gorp is not malding although being right here

[@gamerfowlife9349]

normal day in SEA server and your pos5 will say your are noob lol

[@whyimustusemyrealname3801]

where is the smashing?

[@Nevermorepicker]

the idea of 5 should never leave lane for literally anything should be a thing. your job is to secure your pos1's early CS, not letting them getting ran over in a 2v1 scenario for 2 minutes.

[@KidTrigger]

Yeah you and rank 500 gorc know how to play pos 5 better than every single ti winning pos 5 which roams early game a lot

[@dwiatmika9563]

@@KidTrigger but TI player usually don't dumpster their 1

[@TrIcMi95]

Remember when Ame insult Chaddoto? That was for reason.

[@clementine-2948]

To be fair, Gorgc is right here. CM is such a lane dominator and for her to leave for a gank is so stupid I cant

[@whirlybird268]

imagine treating pos 5 as a pos 4. Even my friend in archon bracket understands that pos 5 should babysit carry until they get enough decent sustain items.

[@cyberpunk4915]

Marci bad last pick vs brood, chad didnt like that so hes like this lane is over mightas well help midd

[@gameoverability1876]

gorgc( to viewers): i was wrong marci loses to brood starts blaming cm cm: why u pick marci into brood sky as last pick explain gorgc( after saying marci loses to brood): marci loses to nothing then proceed to say he loses to sky also on top of losing to brood. lmfao, dude literally will complain about soemthing but when CM says it to him he fuckin argues it and contradicts himself just cuz he doesnt wanna admit its his fault. holy shit people like him are the absolute worst you can tell they never got punched in their life.

[@titoizergaming]

Not hating or anything, please hear me out. Both of them are wrong in this game, why? The first mistake here is that Gorp really did pick Marci against sky and brood. He saw it coming, but see his logic? "Marci loses to nothing, just need sustain." If Marci doesn't lose to anything, why is he losing against Div2 teams using his Marci pos1? That alone speaks volume, while CM really did made a mistake to leave their lane, it's possible that CM lost interest to lane and help bottom since he already saw the Marci pick. He got demotivated by that pick so he went and help other lanes instead. Gorp had the chance to pick any heroes to counter brood sky, he even said Naga is a really good answer to it but he chose Marci. Now both of them are flaming each other, the problem here is that Gorp don't want to admit his mistake as well that's why he and CM clashes.

[@ryzey1538]

100% true but no one here is willing to admit that. But it’s typical pos 1/2 behaviour, the team drafts and leaves last pick for them but what do they do? Picks heroes they think is fun even on bad matchups. “Never leave lane on 5” is also something supports should know by now. But like you said, Cm probably lost interest. People really be reaching that they can’t process what’s happening in that lane too, he clearly was losing to brood(out-traded)and he admits that too and later says that Marci loses to nothing. Smoking some tough shit.

[@davidryan159]

Thats why gorp never play at t1-2 dota team man. He is good to teach some new or lower rank player but he never have a mindset of pro dota player

[@miko8681]

Bs reason losing interest in lane? Wherein you can literally see cm can just buy raindrops and freeze this sky so that marci would jump on him and kill him, instead he roam mid doing nothing and letting sky free harass his carry. Him picking marci isn't bad marci can burst any hero if he gets fed.

[@titoizergaming]

@@miko8681 Marci can burst any hero, yes. CAN MARCI LANE EARLY STAGE AGAINST BROOD SKY? NO. Even Gorgc literally said that "Okay, I was wrong. Marci loses to Brood. I should have picked Naga". You said Marci can burst any hero if he gets FED. Every hero can burst any opponents if they get fed. Even CM can burst anyone if she gets fed. You said CM can just buy raindrops and freeze the Sky? In a perfect world, that's easy. But remember that this is an Immortal bracket, Sky and Brood has slows. Do you really think that CM can easily go in range to "FREEZE" Sky? So, who's gonna initiate first? Marci? Then she'll be spammed with slows from Sky and Brood. Frost nova? Same scenarios will happen, also Sky out ranges the CM. Stop covering for Gorgc when the guy himself admitted that there's a counter to every heroes.

[@miko8681]

@@titoizergaming lmao judging by how you see the laning stage just prove to me you are low mmr, you saying cm early lane stage + with marci is weak? You can literally pick cm top it off with a aggressive carry and he will be making the lane ez af.

[@heemro4356]

cm roamer lol

[@zachchong8522]

My po5 literally grieved me from 0 sec, block the creep from 0sec ,let tower p creep into enemy ,then pull creep and let double wave enemy creep dived into my tower🥲

[@AakashSharma-le8pm]

Gorgc is right. He can't lane against those two solo.