"Hell" or Sheol, Hades, Gehenna, and Tartarus?-Robin Parry

[@sgt7]

Actually, that's the clearest exposition of these concepts I have come across so far.

[@careannthomas2372]

Dr. Hahn adds the word roots.

[@JainaSoloB312]

Fantastic analysis of these concepts! I would love more short-form videos like this on specific topics

[@doodle8045]

this video is a perfect summation of these terms. Love it.

[@AChippendale]

Yes that was very helpful! Thank you for your ministry.

[@racheladkins6060]

I’m trying to get clear on this, and I’ve been a Christian since 1988. I’m bothered by pagan and Greek pagan things. Gehenna is a park now, in Jerusalem .

[@liebeeichhoernchennatur5199]

I wish you are near death experience, so you are not blind anymore for spirituality.

[@MrRezillo]

If you're bothered by pagan and Greek pagan things, then you probably shouldn't be reading the Bible, LOL. So much of the New Testament derives from Greek (Platonic) and Persian (Zoroastrian) sources.

[@jackwhite1742]

@@MrRezillo Incorrect. While it was written in Greek, because the disciples spoke Greek, as did most citizens of the Roman Empire. None of the teachings in Christs Gospel are Greek pagain in origin.

[@MrRezillo]

@@jackwhite1742 "None of the teachings in Christs Gospel are Greek pagain in origin." Ha, ha, actually quite of few of them are, specifically from Plato and Persian sources. A lot of ideas, like an eternal heaven or hell, only started appearing after the Babylonian captivity of the Jews. The concept of a God sacrificing himself for humanity has precedents in many other religions of the era.

[@jackwhite1742]

@@MrRezillo incorrect. You obviously have no knowledge of the Bible. And fyi, the Sumerian scroll is a fake.

[@IsraelSuperguide]

Luke 16 it isn't a parable... hell is a wrong translation of the original of Gehena.

[@MrRezillo]

It's not a parable, but an admonitory tale, from pagan sources.

[@Puppythuppa]

Yup, The story of the Richman and Lazarus is NOT a Parable, it WAS AN ACTUAL EVENT HAPPENED and THE LORD REVEALED TO MANKIND ABOUT THE REALITY OF THE REALM OF THE DEAD BOTH SAVED AND LOST SOULS OF MANKIND.!!!

[@Trueholycrapfish]

@@Puppythuppa So dead people in Abraham's bosom can talk to dead people that are not?

[@sanityfc2988]

Gehenna is actually a Hebrew expression that refers to the Valley of Hinnom.

[@MrRezillo]

The Gemara Babylonica.

[@gregzoller9003]

Excellent summation, including the lack of clarity we have. One interpretation of Sheol/Hades I've heard is that as a "place of the dead" it is divided into two realms separated by an impassible chasm (from the parable). One side is suffering and the other is pleasant, Paradise, as in when Jesus told the thief "Today you will be with me in Paradise". It also says Jesus descended into Sheol, so perhaps they both went to the Paradise side of Sheol. Don't know--but it does fit the narrative.

[@youngknowledgeseeker]

Interesting. "Biblical Unitarians" suggest that, scripturally, Sheol/Hades would be the unconscious state of death. The "grave" and the metaphorical holding place of the dead before the judgement. Gehenna would be the actual place one is sentenced to in the judgement ("the fire prepared for the devil and his Angels"). Tartarus would be a holding place, possibly conscious, of the Watchers from Enoch until the judgement. There are outlier texts of course that may suggest there is or can be some sort of consciousness after death before the judgement (and/or rewards or punishments). For example, the story of Saul and the Witch of Endor. The (parable?) of the Rich Man and Lazarus. The vision of Moses and Elijah seen at the Mt. of Transfigutation. There is of course also the fact that since the 2nd Temple period and onwards, at least, Jewish culture had taken on and developed competing views of a conscious state after death alongside their idea of a sleeplike state of death.

[@dalecampbell5617]

So according to mainstream Christianity, lost humans are burned in "hell " for eternity, but the fallen angels (watchers) are placed in Tartarus, a prison of outer darkness and wait for judgment.??? Only man and his religions can take the gospel and turn it into a horror story.

[@krustysurfer]

Utterly confused

[@BoldasaLionMinistries]

It is a horror story, but the good news it doesn't have to be. The contrast is what makes the blood of Jesus so good. Mercy means nothing without judgment. "Salvation" infers that there is something to be saved from. Forgiveness refers to a pardon. The good news doesn't exist without the bad.

[@dalecampbell5617]

@BoldasaLionMinistries according to the Hebrew and Greek translations, Christ died on the cross to save mankind from eternal death, not from some pagan hell concept that came from Norse mythology.

[@__-vb3ht]

​@@BoldasaLionMinistriesDoesn't mean that some people will be in hell forever. There is something we need saving from, and eventually all will be. Not by reaching the end of hell but by being pulled out by Jesus

[@racheladkins6060]

“It’s not terribly clear” This isn’t Helping me.

[@wayman1776]

Read Matthew 10:28 Where Jesus speaks of Hell… This guy sounds vague and uncertain he also moves his hands and arms too much and can’t stand still?

[@AChippendale]

And pray for wisdom. Part of the process of reading the Bible is BEING in the word.... Read, meditate on the passage, repent, pray, repeat.

[@dacoolfruit]

His book is well argued amd persuasive. I think he does not eant to be overly dogmatic so im speaking he is a little less powerful than in writing... mayne like someone else we know of?

[@jcdstorm]

Totally wrong!!!! Sheol is Hades and the grave! This is where all dead humans reside until judgement. They are asleep. Nothing complicated

[@somesauce]

The doctrine of soul sleep is unbiblical

[@maruscatarabella9623]

All those passagges are so contradicting and sensless, why keep spirits, angels and souls in such places, if they are doomed to everlasting torment until the day of judgment if there isn't a chance to be saved?

[@JackOfAllRAIDs]

“For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,” says the Lord. “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts."

[@eltonron1558]

So, by scripture, who is doomed to everlasting torment? Not anyone living now, except false prophets. All others, by scripture, are already immortal and can't die. It's the presuppositions of eternal torment that Satan uses to convince dumb Christians God is a psychopath. Scripture proves he is not.

[@JackOfAllRAIDs]

@@eltonron1558 “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God”

[@eltonron1558]

@JackOfAllRAIDs Small problem. They won't inherent the kingdom as Christianity, however, they WILL be offered salvation by the sacrifice of another, who SAID THEY WOULD BE FORGIVEN. Mathew 12:31 Mark 3:28 Lk. 12:10 Who said that?

[@ryfidelity7854]

@@eltonron1558 All three of those verses are all saying the same thing from the same instance in the gospel record where Jesus is teaching. He is saying that any sin can be forgiven of someone, but blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, which is a very specific state that a sinner will reside in, cannot be forgiven. And the reason it cannot be forgiven is because its very nature is to reject the spirit (rejecting God) and remain unrepentant (repentance is the only way someone receives the grace and forgiveness of God). So blasphemy of the Spirit isnt like committing an accidental sin such as a verbal slip up, a lie, or looking onto something with sinful intent. It is quiet literally the actual state that only an unrepentant sinner who diligently rejects God can be in; persistently ignoring the conviction and truth of the spirit of God. Where in the scripture does it say anything about inheriting the kingdom any other way than through Christ and believing on Him for salvation (Christianity), or being offered salvation by the sacrifice of another being other than Christ? It simply doesn't exist in the text. It almost sounds like you are claiming that two or more saviors are speaking simultaneously within those verses.

[@kellydavid7408]

Jesus the messiah will save all!! Wherefore also God highly exalted him, and gave unto him the name which is above every name; that in the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven and things on earth and things under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Phil 2:9

[@olympic97s]

Ecclesiastes 9:5,10 and Psalms 146:4 shows one could not be conscious in death

[@jasongrissett1893]

Read it whole the dead knows nothing under the sun

[@dcw56]

Read all of the 146 Psalms! And,YOU need to read the whole of Solomon's writings before you pick and cull five verses of the whole book!. JESUS says we can be conscious in death. King David said he would know his infant son after he (David) died. How could King David say he would see his son again if there were no conscious spirit after death? You have this all wrong, brother/sister.

[@glennrobinson7193]

@@dcw56 You are denying infallible undeniable truth in scripture in Eccl9:5, 10 and Ps146:4. You are interpreting from a natural standpoint - the natural man cannot perceive spiritual realities for they are foolishness unto him 1Corinthians2:14,15. "The things of God knoweth NO man.." (verse 11).

[@sosyalsorumluluk]

All I got from the vid is that ' None of these notions are concrete '

[@racheladkins6060]

I was looking for clarity as to what happens for real. All we have is pagan mythology mixed up into things. How can we give clear answers to people when theologians are in a mess about it. What are we saved from?

[@BoldasaLionMinistries]

We are saved from God's wrath. That is very clear in the scriptures. Romans 5:6-11 "Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him! For if, while we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!" But, I think sometimes us scholars let study hinder us from Faith. While, the devil has us arguing about words, people are pershing. I think the confusion is used to keep us from warning people about the judgment to come. That's why I'm digging deep this month and teaching on the concepts. Fear of not understanding it thoroughly has prevented me from warning people at all. How it happens, and when it happens is not as relevant as the fact that it will happen. And we have a duty as believers to warn as many as we can.

[@tommywarren4633]

Hades doesn't exist anymore it was cast into the lake of fire

[@productosalvaraz8880]

Tartarus is Pretty much Prison....

[@sanityfc2988]

Tartarus is a term refers to the present imprisonment or restraint of the demons or fallen angels.

[@davidbalicki3567]

prison for the fallen angels

[@krustysurfer]

Greek theology?

[@masaguitv4564]

Hell is the place of the punishment. Hades is the place of the Souls does people death.

[@m8subject996]

could you rephrase that again?

[@davidbalicki3567]

and the Lake of Fire is?

[@rg442]

Sheol and Hades are simply the grave.

[@GreatSalvation]

Yes where they sleep and wait for the judgement of Jesus, no torture in fire.

[@dcw56]

@@GreatSalvation NO: The Bible says Sheol has two parts: One of comfort, with Father Abraham, and the other half (very far away), where the doomed cannot touch the blessed in a place called Abraham's bosom. THAT place is called a place of torment by Jesus THE Christ. . The part of the resting place that JESUS himself mentions is with Abraham. The other half is not described as eternal fire, but the place the wicked people go awaiting judgement. Read your Bible! This man talking is trying to sooth you into HELL.

[@jamesduck926]

@@dcw56 your so wrong. That was a parable. And it wasn’t even about hell

[@dcw56]

@@jamesduck926 It was NOT a parable. The way we know is that Jesus gave specific names, i.e. Abraham and Lazarus. That is how we know it is true. Jesus does not name the rich man in Sheol. There is no need, because he already named the two principle people in the recount of the facts. PLEASE read your Bible!

[@jamesduck926]

@@dcw56 the Bible says he only spoke in parables. It was a parables. And it had nothing to do with hell. Wasn’t even about that.

[@racheladkins6060]

I thought you had a better idea of things? What are you paid for?

[@Paul77786]

Jegaysus says hell does not exist on TikTok but the more I watch those videos of his the more I feel skeptical about his teachings but when I encountered this video on KZbin the more I know the reality of hell being a thing that existed.

[@scottpilgrim4027]

Just read your Bible, man.

[@Paul77786]

@@scottpilgrim4027 I agree.

[@dcw56]

As you say, "that was not helpful... was it". No. It was not. Not at all, and quite full of errors. Gehennam was a place where certain peoples sacrificed babies, as in infants. Yes, it is now a park in Jerusalem.. It was not always a park. It was at one time a place where pagans took their new born babies and offered them to Molech on a bronze statue. The statue was heated with wood or charcoal, and was red hot. People actually placed their babies either on the hands of the false god, or in a receptacle of a bronze casting that was heated to searing heat, and let the babies scream and writhe in pain until they died. Jeremiah tells about this in chap 7 of his book in the Old (First) Testament. In that book I think it is called Hinnon rather than Gehenna. (Same place, different spelling.) Same horrible place of human sacrifice, which God Almighty our Father found detestable.

[@coolspiritministries]

You make hell complicated. Simple when you read the Bible

[@__-vb3ht]

Read which bible?

[@marlonpeiris9903]

CAN ANYONE GETS SAVED WHILE IN HEDEYS (SHEOLE)

[@lifeonahighway9700]

Nah

[@RadarRecon]

Completely confusing. The KJV translates sheol (H7585) as "hell" 31 times, "grave" 31 times, and "pit" 3 times, so anyway you look at it, it's a hole in the ground. The valley of Hinnom was a garbage pit kept burning continually, so it was a place of destruction of the body (Heb. "nefesh" [H5315]). "Hell" and "hades" were mythological places: hell from western Europe and hades from Greece, which the KJV uses metaphorically as a (temporary) place of torment until "death and hades" are cast "into the lake of fire; this is the second death." (Rev. 20:14) Tartarus (Grk. tartara'o) is also from Greece - "a sunless abyss below hades," from Homer. (Etymonline) Bottom line: There's no eternal torment. "Nephilim" literally means "fallen ones." The ones who followed ha-satan?? (H7854 sa-TAHN) "Satan" means "adversary" and is seldom used in the Bible without the definite article, which apparently means that it is NOT a proper name. No one says "the David," "the Noah," "the Moses," etc.

[@Mike-qt7jp]

Revelation 14:9-11 says, "If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God’s wrath...and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have NO REST, day or night." If they were annihilated out of existence, then the statement no rest day or night makes no sense. Revelation 20:10 says, "And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be TORMENTED day and night FOREVER and ever. . .Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if ANYONE"S name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire." By the way, the word torment is translated from the Greek word Basanismos, and it means to torture. It absolutely does NOT mean to annihilate and put out of existence.

[@RadarRecon]

@@Mike-qt7jp​ So "second death" is a metaphor?? "death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning nor crying nor pain any more" Rev. 21:4. That would seem to be superfluous if it means only in heaven. But then there's the case of the devil, the beast, and the false prophet in 20:10. These seem to fall into a special category and "no more pain" may not apply to them. "Eternal" things mentioned in the Bible: Damnation Mk 3:29 Judgment Heb. 6:2 Destruction 2 Tim. 1:9 Redemption Heb. 9:12 Fire Jude 7; Rev. 20:10. Otherwise only good things. I can't read "smoke going up for ever" as torment, which would cease with 21:14. I'm a literalist, using exegesis, not eisegesis.

[@kvelez]

Great explanation but you gave way too much and for someone who hasn't studied that is overwhelming, try to include visuals the next time with some Bible verses, and keep it short so that they take it as homework. Sheol/Hades = Underworld or Land of the Dead. Gehenna/Hell/Lake of Fire = Torment place.

[@krustysurfer]

Thats seems reasonable

[@GreatSalvation]

They sleep in Sheol, (The realm of the dead) We read in Ecclesiastes 9:5 "For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing. They have no further reward, because the memory of them is forgotten." Gehenna was a place where they sacrificed their babies to a false god, and were destroyed, the jews and in the whole Old Testament, really believed there was no place of fire and torture forever, because there isn't, God Is Love, there will be a furnace to refine hearts to God, but God called the slavery in Egypt an iron smelting furnace, when the Messiah came to teach them, this was the understanding that they would have had, the new concept of this inferno forever, is not who God is, and it is not in the scriptures, Jesus is the messiah.

[@eltonron1558]

Unlearn the Lies, has a better breakdown of the terms.

[@glenliesegang233]

Hell, sheol, whatever. The "hellish NDE experiencers" will report something not "quiet as the grave." Where are these passages about the unquenchable fires and worms writhing in torment?" Also not as reassuring as, "it's where all dead go." If Time passes differently there than here, hell may be but for a season, then all redeemed. But, if you are in hell, it will seem eternal, because any prospect of freedom is both uncertain and experienced as if it may never come.

[@HipHopTV_Official]

This guy is Soo confusing

[@wayman1776]

He sounds as though he is not sure himself…

[@Trueholycrapfish]

@@wayman1776 He's not sure about some things. This is because he's being honest about the amount of certain information we can gleam from scripture. Nowhere in scripture does it state something along the lines of "this is what Sheol refers to, and this is what it is like:"

[@sanityfc2988]

Tartarus is term refers to the present imprisonment or restraint of the demons or fallen angels.

[@davidbalicki3567]

@@sanityfc2988 yep, and someday all of those fallen angels will be thrown into the Lake of Fire.

[@sanityfc2988]

@@davidbalicki3567 that’s true but I did say in the Bible that we will judge angels so that’s going to be interesting

[@sidtom2741]

In simple words, we never take into account how many metaphors are in the Bible. We assume it is going to be physical burning for all of eternity, but then again, it is our spiritual forms, so burning and destruction allude to what those depraved souls are like. It's EVERYTHING Heaven isn't. A place completely void of love, peace, hope, and full of apathy and self-absorption. That's Hell. We also assume that everyone wants to be with God, which is essentially Heaven, but that's not true.

[@Okieshowedem]

John 1:29 Behold the LAMB of Father YAHweh that takes away the sin of the world. May Father YAHweh bless your understanding.

[@davidbalicki3567]

Jesus = Yahweh

[@Sukkot7]

Lol Yeshua's statement was very clear, frightening as it may be!

[@jasonwemissyoucomeback]

Get to the tartarus part

[@davidbalicki3567]

Tartarus is the prison where the fallen angels reside some day they will bd cast into the lake of fire

[@Theway0428]

Literally in Matthew 25:41 the word eternal is used. Where are you not seeing this? Matthew 25:41 41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. Look up the Greek for eternal, there’s a simple interpretation.

[@ronbo30]

In Jude 7 it’s says sodom is burned with ETERNAL FIRE. well is sodom still burning today? No. What it means is the punishment was eternal ( sodom the city is eternally is gone) not ongoing as many think eternal.

[@racheladkins6060]

What’s the Truth anymore? Hell is terrifying . Hell is from Pagan religions.

[@wayman1776]

It’s the lake of fire but Jesus speaks about Hell in Matthew 10:28.

[@davidbalicki3567]

the truth is this - you are a sinner, God punishes sinners by having them thrown into the Lake of Fire. You can confess your sins, repent of them, believe that Jesus died to pay the penalty (the Lake of Fire), and receive the gift of eternal life. It is clearly your choice, heaven or hell. That's the truth

[@racheladkins6060]

@@davidbalicki3567 I became a Christian in 1988, and what’s this “you” business? Have some humility? The traditional evangelical view is Roman Catholic and wrong,

[@davidbalicki3567]

@@racheladkins6060 what's wrong with saying "you" ?

[@cinemasurge1851]

@@davidbalicki3567 that’s actually not true, the Bible never says that non believers will be tossed into the lake of fire or be punished

[@volodymyrvolf3889]

2:49-sign of goat, tribute to satan and placing curse on people, watch his left hand! This man can't stop his hands like magician while performing! 12 A naughty person, a wicked man, walketh with a froward mouth. 13 He winketh with his eyes, he speaketh with his feet, he teacheth with his fingers; 14 Frowardness is in his heart, he deviseth mischief continually; he soweth discord. Proverbs 6: 12-14

[@projectnathanadam6232]

Not sure about that

[@paultw4670]

Wow, 666 hand signs, devil horns and smiles when talking of child sacrifices, gee, right on VV.

[@tigerchild3676]

So moving your hands around while speaking makes you a magician? Then I guess everyone is a magician since I’m sure everyone has waved their hands while speaking

[@ZaviahIV]

Absolute clown.

[@__-vb3ht]

​@@tigerchild3676"Gesturing while speaking means you are serving the devil!!!!1!11!" *All Italians start sweating nervously*

[@JackOfAllRAIDs]

Glory be to the triune God.