The Book of Enoch Explained

[@ReligionForBreakfast]

Finally made the sequel! "The 2nd Book of Enoch Explained:" kzbin.info/www/bejne/pImxepetl6p9j5I

[@MylaCruz11]

Just finished watching it and came here to watch this again 😂 thank you for your vids

[@CestuiQueTrustBeneficiary-KING]

And the prophecy of the Elect. You just don't want it to be true I suppose but it is. I'm really sorry I suppose that you know what's coming next. The Elect, the Holy and the Righteous. The forsaken have judgement coming. As you as you push off the prophecy of Enoch you seal your sin. Fore now is the time 70 generations have past. I'm trying to help everyone but it will be many many days before we can help those judged in sin. I'm praying for you

[@CestuiQueTrustBeneficiary-KING]

A summary of great wisdom to hide the great sin. Sad

[@anthonyontv]

I’m 0:26 into this video and already I had to pause it and take a moment to digest how biased and belittling you sound about something your about to “teach me” (never went to church don’t like or care for religion, never read the Bible or book of Enoch, but also I don’t trust science, but think we might have a creator/savior)

[@juanjesusgonzalezgil4830]

El Señor Jesucristo Yahshua te bendiga

[@kirubelfikru6931]

The Ethiopian church deserves credit for preserving the full version of the book and for accepting it as canon for 2000 years

[@iseeghosts6692]

There's literally no single way to prove that it's in it's original form.

[@bodyrumuae2914]

@@iseeghosts6692 Yup. No one alive today was alive then to confirm as a witness that it is.

[@tomthx5804]

It's all fake.

[@holmcm751]

@@tomthx5804 you're fake.

[@holmcm751]

@@tomthx5804 just kidding.

[@ReflexVE]

I read Enoch when I was much younger and what struck me was the parallels between the watchers and the Greek gods in their interactions with humans. Teaching, corrupting, interbreeding and playing at warfare with humans or demigods as champions or pawns. Back when I believed these things literally it seemed like a potential explanation for other religions at the time, now of course it is more obviously due to cultural contact and the spread of ideas around the Mediterranean.

[@big0514]

One friend of mine told me if you read a lot of bibles from different religions they’re not far off

[@matthewtenorioduenas202]

This is what I thought too

[@CapnTacos]

If you think about it, in any interpretation of the Bible does God say I am the only God ever? No, he says, "There are no other Gods before me." Just something to think about. Also included in Enoch is the Divine Council. An assembly of lesser celestial beings over which a supreme God sits.

[@therealjakeryan5826]

​@@CapnTacos That statement is simply not true. I would encourage you to read Ephesians 4:5-6, as well as Romans 3:30 NLT.

[@trenhen4311]

@@therealjakeryan5826 I’m pretty sure there are other gods in the bible. It’s just stated that he is above all of them. A god can create other lesser gods.

[@DevinDTV]

Enoch must have been an established figure before the writing of Genesis. There's no way they just offhandedly remarked that "God took him" without the reader being expected to already know the full story.

[@IllustriousCrocoduck]

Seems plausible. A reminder at least that for every pieve of history that we have preserved evidence of, there are many that were culturally known, accepted, debated, and forgotten. I think of this often when watching documentaries on serial killers- we look back at their criminal history, because it was recorded (sometimes), but we rely on anecdotal evidence for most of their lives. This is true for all of us. Prior to the internet, just how much of any average person's life is recorded? A diary? A portrait? 0.001% of their full life. My point is that recorded history is a drop in the bucket, and ultimately what we "know" could well be flawed. We must remember the 5 Cs of historical studies.

[@YeshuaMessiah7]

@@slidrgaming, I do believe you are on to something. Great insight.

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

Yes, Enoch, and Adam and Abraham were all "established figures before Moses wrote about them BUT we have none of the books Moses said he used as reference for Genesis and Forst Enoch was NOT among the booka Moses listed. Bubba, if you listened to the video at all you should have heard that First Enoch was written in 200-300 BC while Enoch was taken to heaven in 3000 BC. Clearly Enoch did NOT write the book of Enoch although the book clearly claims that he did. Here is the time line ~3000 BC Enoch is taken to heaven in Genesis 5 and never returns.. ~2500 BC Noah and the Flood. Noah never even met Enoch and Enoch left before both the Flood and fallen "angels". ~1500 BC Moses writes Genesis. ~200-300 BC Book of Enoch written. So Exactly how does Moses use the Book of Enoch as a reference if it was firt written 1000 year AFTER Moses wrote Genesis??? Think about that Genius.

[@MikeEllchuk]

​@@YeshuaMessiah7 thanks :)

[@kmlgraph]

What are the 5Cs of historical studies?@@IllustriousCrocoduck

[@doid3r4s]

The person who came up with the name Metatron deserves a raise.

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

OPr to be burned at the stake. I think it was one of te Autobots.

[@helplmchoking]

The fun thing is, we still have no idea where they got the name. Scholars have never figured out an etymology behind it, it first appears in this text and is never explained. Personally I'm going with "it sounded freakin awesome" as the most likely origin, given the whole Enoch thing is borderline fanfiction

[@brucecunningham2944]

​@@johnbreitmeier3268Megatron might be who you're thinking of. He was a Decepticon.

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

@@brucecunningham2944 And indeed you must be right. First Enoch is itself a Deception in many ways transforming truth into error.

[@grasstastesbad]

@@johnbreitmeier3268 i thought you came up with the name autobot and i thought it was really funny but i googled it and they’re actually called that. didn’t expect to learn about transformers on a bible vid lol

[@charlestownsend9280]

Metatron sounds like a transformer, every time he mentions metatron all I see is a biblical transformer.

[@KomodoMagic]

Just take a look at SMT Metatron

[@sambeshalom879]

The the second and third book are false

[@andybeans5790]

I think of Alan Rickman in Dogma lol

[@anime.soundtracks]

I wonder where Megatron got his name from

[@ShadowPa1adin]

Megatron was named after Metatron.

[@Schralenberger]

Bear in mind an important fact when reading Enoch: Firstly there are three books of Enoch. In antiquity they spoke of only one. Scholars are fairly sure that there are two different authors. The author of the first book, written before Christ. And the author of both the second, and the third books, dated to after Christ. They compare phrasing and language that differs between the two. As well as language usage in the different eras. When purchasing an edition of "The book of Enoch.", you usually will have all three books, in the one volume.

[@pamelabyers5947]

Thx for sayin'

[@allstargaming5270]

Sooo, the first book of enoch is the only true version then i guess?

[@Praise___YaH]

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[@SungPraise]

References? I can't believe anything unless properly sourced. As likely as this sounds..

[@Amanda-cd6dm]

Speaking of phrases and wording: KJV 1611 Bible has the same words spelled two or three different ways in one paragraph is suspicious

[@GirladyLocks]

I do not believe that the Book of Enoch was a "spin-off" at all! In fact, there is evidence that it is much older than the Bible and was already a widely known part of literature when the Bible was written, hence there was no reason to elaborate when it was briefly mentioned in the Bible. The writer assumed everyone already knew what he was talking about, probably because they did! It is a complex piece of literature that should be respected.

[@sonofyah_chosen1950]

Never read the Bible but I think enoch might be closest to the truth, might actually give it a read

[@darielarchuleta6229]

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[@JaniceDietert]

I believe it's Enoch 1 that has been dated to well before the flood. The other version of Enoch that came afterward are more recent.

[@mojobag01]

@@JaniceDietert 'the flood' LOL

[@a.c.slater573]

Agreed, they hid Enoch because it talks of angels, demons, nephilim, and things that will come to pass in our close future

[@krevin543]

Enoch is a fascinating book. Reading the Biblical texts can be a surreal experience because it mentions drastic events, that today we would chronicle in detail, very offhandedly as if they aren’t worth recording.

[@bumblefoot5]

Enoch Great-grandson: Noah , Father: Enoch’s father was Jared (Genesis 5:18; cf. 1 Chronicles 1:3). Occupation: Jude 14-15 states that Enoch was a preacher of righteousness and a prophet. Bible References: Enoch is mentioned in Genesis 5:18-24, 1 Chronicles 1:3, Luke 3:37, Hebrews 11:5-6, Jude 1:14-15.

[@DarrenTheoret-n8j]

It's like reading about January 6th or 9-11. You assume the audience knows about it. Kinda like that there :)

[@mazmundie]

​@@DarrenTheoret-n8jwhat happened on the 6th?

[@JJ-qx3cb]

@@DarrenTheoret-n8j Now imagine describing events like world war 1 & 2 in like 3-5 sentences and moving on.

[@ookalar665]

@@JJ-qx3cbin a few hundred years that’s how they will be described, Look at how most people describe the Trojan war, the us civil war or the crusades. Trojan war was a war fought over a women Us civil war was fought for slavery And the crusades were fought for the holy land. All “technically” true but there is SOOOOO much more context behind all those wars that nobody talks about.

[@dgetzin]

Whenever people get fed up, it is time to say, "Enoch is Enoch!" and just rise above it all.

[@TheBobbymcd]

@Magi728 if your going to answer every comment by spamming with a link then explain what the link is about otherwise we dont click on them.

[@ruby13rose]

Lol I see your humor 🤣 Right . .........U don't want Mockery and neither do I

[@hih-meh1344]

darn silly 😁😂

[@sarawest7075]

🤣

[@theflemingsofcolorado9948]

@@TheBobbymcd facts!

[@HolyKoolaid]

Am I the only one who hummed, "More than meets the eye!" When he said that Enoch transformed into Metatron?

[@hive_indicator318]

Why was I shocked that you follow this channel? As long as we don't drink Enoch's koolaid, we'll be good, though.

[@ReligionForBreakfast]

Welcome Holy Koolaid!

[@Kitsaplorax]

Opposed by To Megatherion, his twin.

[@alisonpurgatory85]

@@hive_indicator318 would it be right to assume you got your username from the inimitable James Acaster?

[@andybeans5790]

I think that's a bit insulting to Decepticons really ;)

[@merc6380]

I am Eritrean, and I was surprised I didn't know I could read and understand an ancient language like Ge'ez.

[@evannfisher737]

@Magi bro, stop sending your nonsensical podcasts

[@32kirby32]

RIP NH

[@Ggdivhjkjl]

It's closely related to your language.

[@rosa_stars349]

I'm also eritrean and same

[@WheresPoochie]

The Horn of Africa and the Biblical Middle-East share a lot of cultural and linguistic heritage. Look into Proto-Afroasiatic culture and see that you may have descended from the earliest civilization.

[@woodshed_moments]

It makes sense that Sadducees who were more concerned about preserving tradition rejected the supernatural, therefore Enoch would have been disqualified simply because it alluded to the supernatural. Interesting presentation

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

You completely misunderstood. 1) It was the Pharisees who became the rabbis not the Sadducees and that excluded the books of Enoch from the Old Testament simply because they were trash written 2000 years after the events. 2) The Sadducees were the Aaronic priests and the Hasmoeen nobles (also priestly clans ) who objected to the Pharisees adding the Talmud to the Torah as a second set of laws that pushed out the preist hood. 3) The Rabbis were allPharisees and mostrly Judeans, not of the tribe of Levi. THEY set the Old Testament canon.

[@woodshed_moments]

@johnbreitmeier3268 no, the context was precisely correct it is you who don't understand, go back and look at what I said again, specifically to context

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

@@woodshed_moments No, I did read it in context. It is just that everything you said is factually wrong. The Sadducees did NOT reject the supernatural at all. They rejected the resurrection and the Talmud or "traditions of the elders" as Jesus called them. Jeus preached the resurrection making the Seduces mad and the Talmud making the Pharisees mad. IF you still think I missed your point then make it more clearly and precisely. Don't day I did not read what you wrote which is simply inncorrect.

[@woodshed_moments]

@johnbreitmeier3268 Labeling something "factually incorrect", but then choosing to substantiate it with culture and the traditions of man over what we have is disinforming people... this is politics and nothing more. I'm sorry you have not made your point, but you have let everybody know where you're coming from, I'm sorry you just have not made a point, and still haven't made a point- but the direction you're going to it's the supported institution over truth that has been revealed through time, that is the problem you're having here. "For the Sadducees say that there is neither a resurrection, nor angels, nor spirits, but the Pharisees acknowledge them all." [Acts 23:8] You were saying? The word of God actively unpacked and discredited everything you said, so again, the more you talk the more you're telling people what you are not, and that is valid nothing you said is correct from a biblio Centric perspective, but if I was Catholic or Judaistic, in some Orthodox manner, I can understand the intentional conflation... Bottom line is what you choose to support your argument with, is not bibliocentric - therefore moot.

[@benjicald277]

The Book of Enoch was originally so popular because it was LITERALLY lore for the Bible

[@Asp3ct.7.]

@John Digsby It is canon tho either you want to admit it or not It s not in the bible because they don t want people to see how ruthless God can be

[@nicktronson2977]

@@Asp3ct.7. Nope they took it out becuz Enoch exposes how fake modern astronomy is. There is no outerspace. The Sun and Moon are inhabited by billions of Angelic beings and is literally Heaven.

[@malakhhaabaddon6222]

@@Asp3ct.7. How much more ruthless does it get then the flood, but then again we are only human, if one has no control over death then does it matter what way they go out.

[@malakhhaabaddon6222]

@@nicktronson2977 complete nonsense the expanse of Gods universe is immeasurable, it aint like one who mimes inside a glass box feeling for a way out.

[@angelurioste4952]

@@nicktronson2977 you are right bro that's all the truth

[@ruthmeow4262]

"Spin-off literature." The scholarly way of saying "fan fiction".

[@Salsmachev]

Yeah it struck me as odd, because normally he's happy to just call it fanfic.

[@nosuchthing8]

Maybe it's all fan fiction

[@helenaconstantine]

That's not a scholarly turn

[@ReligionForBreakfast]

happy to use fan fiction too. Spin-off seemed to work well for Enoch though imo.

[@nathanoliver9237]

Including more modern Bible fanfic like the divide comedy and paradise lost

[@cernowaingreenman]

The book of I Enoch helps the Gospel of Mark (which portrays a world full of unclean spirits) make more sense.

[@PaintedHoundie]

my theory is enoch had some small influence on what became certain parts of new testament scripture. a lot of church fathers in the earliest time periods considered it authoritative scripture, and enoch has words and concepts that are also used in new testament scripture.

[@PaintedHoundie]

@JVT well, the book of jude mentions/references a verse from enoch. and as far as early church fathers, figures like Origen, Ireneaus (worth noting he is famous for weeding out heretical Christian doctrines, doesn't mean anything just thought it was funny(" Justin Martyr, Athenagoras, Clement, Cassidorus. There are more names if you're curious but these are either Fathers, Bishops or Apologists that considered it authoritative and/or prophecy. I can find some more if you're curious I kinda studied this a while back.

[@anime.soundtracks]

still doesnt make the story of "2000 pigs jumping off lake" more sense

[@wittwittwer1043]

Cern wrote: "The book of I Enoch helps the Gospel of Mark (which portrays a world full of unclean spirits) make more sense." ...... Although none of it makes any sense at all. It's a compilation of metaphysical mumbo-jumbo.

[@wittwittwer1043]

@Magi728 sent me a link to a a KZbin video. ...... I don't go to sites that someone else recommends unless I recognize the sender. From your "handle" it seems you style yourself some sort of wizard. Wizards are frauds.

[@thatoneoshawott5826]

Clicked on a random video and I think I just found my favorite history channel. Keep it up

[@LucaBakiMMA]

Whoever wrote it definetly knew a lot for pre internet times.

[@mrwtfwhy]

It really doesn’t make sense to call it “spinoff literature” when these texts were both a part of a very living tradition from the distant past. Books were absolutely not treated and were not used like they are now, at ALL.

[@aritasosa7311]

This all is all about the seven chakras

[@parvathyp4152]

@@aritasosa7311 kundalini awakening?

[@JuanRodriguez-gj5zk]

@@aritasosa7311 how is the book of Enoch symbolism to the seven chakras I don't see it

[@straightupanarg6226]

As a 43 year old, I'll take that as a compliment.

[@Bibleedification]

God called Ezekial "son of man" numerous times as well, so the same context given to Enoch shouldn't be all that controversial.

[@THATxONExGUY14]

@Magi ಠ_ಠ uhhh?

[@joemachunda]

Ezekiel was called son of man referring to his earthly manhood. JESUS on the other hand is called THE son of man referring to Him being deity. The word "The" is never used calling someone other than Jesus son of man. There is too little about Enoch to build doctrine around of significance. The whole of the bible points to Christ. He is the savior.

[@kevincook8268]

@@joemachunda The Son of man ALWAYS refers to the humanity of the Christ.

[@naomistarlight6178]

@@joemachunda "The whole of the bible points to Christ." Yeah easy to make up any character who fits those prophesies, or to make any character fit them if you want to do enough mental gymnastics.

[@KingOfComedyXD]

​@@joemachundaEnoch specifically points to Christ as savior. It is more Messianic than any other Old Testament book

[@bigbossignition]

When I first read the book of Enoch as a 20 something year old Christian it made so much sense to me. It filled in all of these unanswered areas for me such as why astrology and certain substances were considered “wrong” in the faith. I believed it’s because they were the secrets of heaven that were not intended for man. It was like a lightbulb moment. These things actually work, but they weren’t meant for us, that’s why it is forbidden. I don’t believe any of this anymore but I still have an extreme fascination with biblical theology.

[@markadams7046]

Astrology still factors in the Book of Matthew in the Gospel as the magi were following a star to the baby Jesus.

[@jonDoe-ml3jq]

@@markadams7046 all the lies of the NT

[@jonDoe-ml3jq]

Why you stopped believing in it? Cause it talks about flat earth?

[@bigbossignition]

Mark Adams my point is the book of Enoch helps explain the why. I’m not saying those things don’t exist in the other books, rather they make more sense with the inclusion of Enoch.

[@bigbossignition]

jon Doe Hahahaha what?!?

[@chasemorrison4411]

I love how informative and well put together these videos are.

[@GeraldM_inNC]

When I saw the title "Religion for Breakfast" I expected something very superficial and not based upon any real underlying expertise. But you blew me away with the high level of your scholarship, grasp of the scholarly issues, and your ability to present an overview quickly and clearly. Very very impressed, I'm looking forward to seeing more of your videos.

[@zyerkos]

@Mark Ulis bud if all you heard was big words and not the overall message you might need to do some introspection

[@suem6004]

He is getting a PhD is religious studies.

[@Matthew-307]

How much did he pay you for that comment?

[@GeraldM_inNC]

@@Matthew-307 I have read a great deal on this subject in scholarly books and journals. Have you?

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

He is getting a phd in religious lying. He DID actually told you the truth - that all 3 Books of Enoch were written at least 2000 years after the events they pretend to have witnessed by an author who was gone to heaven 500 years before the events and thus just lies, vivid day dreams and rubbish, and yet does it isn sucha snide way that most WATCHERs tougt he was praising the books as valid history. hey are not and he is a clever liar.

[@TheSteveBoyd]

"Enoch walked with God; then he was no more, because God took him." This is very shoddy character development - especially for a guy who lived to be 365. Are we getting the director's cut now?

[@lhtsnakes1]

Tell me you're an atheist, without telling me you're an atheist.

[@eleanorerosanova7538]

There was a letter that arrived ten years later: "2 Chronicles 21, the wicked King Jehoram of Judah receives a letter from the prophet Elijah."

[@tragiclantern]

#Release_the_Enoch_cut!

[@mistersilly9012]

fan-fic would be a better description. just as people today watch endless new godawful star wars stories because they "want to know what happened", people don't seem to be completely aware that those stories don't come into existence until someone writes them, and that that someone has free rein to invent details. the analogy also applies to official writers of prequels and sequels, but fan-fic is less restrained in terms of changing canon, and this was enoch's downfall

[@EQOAnostalgia]

Nope, just getting doctrine of devils. Nothing about Enoch was shoddy, it's pretty clear when you read the scriptures that he was raptured, we will have 3 raptures before the end. Two have already happened. The next one translates millions of us from our current bodies, to our righteous ones.

[@DeepDarkSamurai]

There's a very enochian figure in ancient sumerian texts who very well can be the source of the later sons of angels and men parts of the book of Enoch, in fact a lot of the poetics match it very highly

[@andrewplaisance8282]

Tell me how I can learn more?

[@YouWinILose]

Who is this figure? You've got us interested.

[@kool4209]

remember there are no coincidences..... only patterns

[@ekkieck]

​@@YouWinILose check the epic of Gilgamesh, it is the same story of nephilims, giant, Noah and flood.

[@YouWinILose]

@@ekkieck except it's not even remotely the same

[@batminton7467]

Just for extra's ... not religious, but I love how ancient texts and traditions have been shaping our collective memory. Enoch and Idris are not the same persona. Enoch and Noah are the same, because what a lot of people don't know is that early biblical manuscripts were written in the same language but different dialects. And in some dialects you have to refer to a known person by adding a/e/i which later became the prefix al-/el-/il- and also became the suffix -al/-il/-el. Those strict dialects add the prefixes so that people would know that the text only applies to the referred person and doesn't apply to anyone with the same name. That's why a lot of texts use the name Abraham/Abrahim/Ibrahim while the real name is Brahim/Brahem/Braham (Bra - him means without worries). Same story for name Noah/Enoch, Dris/Idris, Yonas/Yunes/Yunis/Yunus, Ya'cob/Ya'cub/Ya'cup and so forth. Translators saw the names as separate because they couldn't distinguish between dialects.

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

Enoch and Noah are not the same imbicile. Noah was Enoch's great grandfather according to Genesis 5 which is the only real record we have of him at all. Did you graduate from the University of lies and Stupidity??

[@Lexicommonzero]

omg i lost it when the 4 archangels were wearing ninja turtle colors

[@onisuryaman408]

I supposed their names are Donnatello, Michaelangelo, Raphael dan Leonardo. I completely misses it until I read your comment

[@kristawhite6807]

Haha 😂 it was awesome

[@mystique3645]

Seeing this comment from an account called Our family Videos with a phyrexian as the icon just made this so much funnier

[@blaugranalover770]

@@onisuryaman408 sorry sir, those are not their names

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[@Qlipphoth]

The original manga was better. The spin-off was interesting, tons of new characters but just too over the top and has little to do with the original plot. Very niche tbh.

[@IzumiSafi]

I'm still waiting for the anime tho

[@EatMyFist777]

There's talks of Netflix attaining the rights to create a 6-episode series with Taika Waititi as executive producer. No news on it being animated or live-action as of yet...

[@tediboy5384]

wrong anime bro

[@malcolmcliff-du8qp]

Manga ?😂

[@anthonygarcia8254]

Like Naruto btw.

[@jerrybaird2059]

The fact that Enoch is noted in only a couple of verses in the OT suggests to me that Enoch literature was well developed before or contemporaneously with Genesis, rather than composed long after the OT.

[@NieroshaiTheSable]

Genesis is itself a derivative work, and believed by some to be really young, so it wouldn't be surprising for it to reference Enoch. It would also mean being older than Genesis is not itself proof that Enoch was a foundational early Hebrew document.

[@trixiedinzey3064]

Stolen legacy this is acient before Abraham and the Jews it. Belongs to Ethiopia and iir belongs to the world and it is he. Yeshua my lord they raped and plunderer. His vineyard and stole the legacy from the world One love one humanity 💜🦁🌴🙏❤️

[@JohnSmith-zw8vp]

Yeah for a guy who walked with God for 600ish years and was taken body and soul to heaven he sure got hosed in terms of how much attention he gets.

[@aHavenForTheLost]

@Brian Johnston Jesus did not refer to Enoch. Enoch is only mentioned in Genesis and in Jude. And I believe it was in Jude to prepare his bride for his coming. I believe the 10,000 saints are with Jesus when he comes to execute judgement because we are his bride and he is our husbandman.

[@lockheartrobin7114]

@@JohnSmith-zw8vp Yes there were only like 3 right? And one of them wasn't even completely human so to speak.

[@asmithii84]

I've read the book. It's very intriguing. Watchers is great, parables great, lumaires all good stuff. It fills in a lot of gaps that my mind would wander on from reading the Bible. I might go read it again.

[@tomthx5804]

It's all fake. Fiction. Get a life.

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

Unfortunatelly none of the "fillins" are true. Did you miss the part where the video plainly says they were written no earlier than the 4th century BC?? How do you truthfully ewrite first hand accounts of events that happened 2000 years before the books were written. All 3 books are garbage and lies.

[@prod.mohomid]

i wouldn't prioritize reading those works. especially not over reading the cannon bible daily. if you are just reading them for fun or whatever then it doesn't really matter. but you shouldn't confuse these strange works as divinely inspired. the idea that enoch is the son of man is insanely heretical and goes against the fundamentals of christianity established in nicea 1.

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

@@prod.mohomid Now there are many bad things about the books of Enoch but applying the term son of man to Enoch is NOT one of them Read the Biblical book of Ezekiel. I am going through it daily roght now. In almost every chapter GOG himself calls Ezekiel "son of man. The term jsut means "HUMAN". Yes, Daniel refers to the Messiah as the Son of Man and Jesus usually calls himself the Son of Man rather than the Son of David or even the Son of God in order to emphsize that he is indeed human as well as God. Mow it depends on the translation you read as to whether Enoch is actually called the son of human as just human or as designating him as the Messiah. The first is not a problem. The second is blasphemy. Since I cannot read the Ethiopian and the scholars differ, I simply do not know on this point. But there are many other reason that first Enoch is trash.

[@nullvoid6095]

@@johnbreitmeier3268Angels and humans have all collectively been called the children of God before.

[@Psiberzerker]

I grew up with a Holy Bible: Old Testament, New Testament (And Apocrypha.) So, we didn't really read Enoch, but cross-referenced it, because it's mentioned a couple times. I read it, because I read the whole thing, (And I was the kind of kid that tried to memorize the phone-book) but I don't remember it very well, because it was a long time ago. Thank you for this: 3:23. I've been looking for a good translation, and run into issues where it was actually "A Book of Enoch" advertised as "The Book of Enoch" or 1 Enoch.

[@persilis]

You’re telling me the Bible has canonical dlc with new characters and ties into the original story???

[@xXLunatikxXlul]

The best DLC and some amazing bosses appear, too.

[@fredriks5090]

It even has a live-action trilogy with a prequel trilogy for the north-western regions as well. Although the skins may throw off noobs as to how the timeline connects. Yes, The Matrix and LOTR.

[@chinaman1]

I demand a biblical cinematic universe! A BCU!

[@thelionofjudah77u82]

@@chinaman1 It would be much more amazing than Marvel's universe

[@vonmitchell264]

@@chinaman1 DC actually has comics based on god, lucifer and Micheal

[@rachel_sj]

Trey the Explainer is a great KZbinr who has a few videos on old mythic and cryptic beings including the Nephilim and the Leviathan. They’re pretty detailed, about 20-30 minutes each and I return to rewatch them every so often cause they’re just that good. He was raised as a fundamentalist Christian like me and I think he does a good job of exploring the mythos, text and applicable biology/zoology (for some videos) and debunking other points. I highly recommend his channel for a deeper dive!

[@anime.soundtracks]

his videos are great except his trademark singing at the end 😂

[@chrisiverson5648]

His videos are detailed...that is true...

[@kaengurus.sind.genossen]

His videos about Christian Mythology are most likely the reason this was recommended to me.

[@bluefaery1865]

@@paradisecityX0 Gone woke? What do you mean?

[@bluefaery1865]

@@paradisecityX0 I always thought it was when you pulled the blinders that TPTB pulled over them at the start of indoctrination of public school in America.

[@yeah_yeahwhatever]

This is one of the best religion AND history channels on KZbin, hands down. And the tmnt colors had me rolling.

[@TheZenbudda]

Love the direct info without excessive poorly executed humor! Subscribing!

[@peppereaterlivestream4357]

I thought he was pretty funny

[@jackshadow325]

The “son of man” theme is all over the book of Ezekiel.

[@Praise___YaH]

The “son of man” is Lucifer (Isaiah 14), the “bright morning STAR” (Revelation 22:16) HERE is The Savior YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified for our sins, NOT jesus, and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Semitic Scroll: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"

[@asmithii84]

Many are sons of men. John was born of woman(fornication). Many are sons of God.

[@KendraAndTheLaw]

@@Praise___YaH "Lucifer" aka Heylel in Isaiah 14 is the very mortal king of Babylon. Do you Christians ever read anything in context?

[@SebastianA.W.]

@@KendraAndTheLaw no. they really only pick and choose.

[@jbnovah]

​@@KendraAndTheLaw are you kidding? They don't even read their Bible

[@Bbl1nk]

I've been hoping you'd cover this topic!! 🙌

[@AAllen-br8it]

What does 🙌 mean?

[@robbalink]

Im so proud of you kid! Ive watched you & your awesome channel grow over the years into one of the best in content and diverse religious topics. Bravo! 🎉 God bless you & yours

[@TOCC50]

He needs to get rid of the globe 🌍

[@tsmith906]

Thank you! The book of enoch has interested me for a long while, but im not much of a reader. Not that im illiterate, but i dont have the attention span necessary to sit and read a book. I find myself reading the same paragraph over and over without absorbing any of the information. So thank you good sir.

[@unclebennyscreepycampfires6828]

You are exactly the kind of Christian this gatekeeping unbeliever is targeting, to get you to dismiss it as fiction & worthless. Pray to be shown the Truth, & IN the Truth. The Lord's children have no need of a worthless "teacher" like this clown. "But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him." I John 2:27.

[@bismarck6959]

This sounds like the directors cut of Russell Crowe’s Noah

[@ReligionForBreakfast]

I'm pretty sure that movie drew some inspiration from Gnostic and Enochic literature. I hated how the Watchers were portrayed though.

[@TheRedname]

@@jayb0g I would also be very interestd in knowing this.

[@friedkeenan]

I find Noah a considerably more enjoyable experience when you view it through the lens of a Darren Aronofsky film rather than just as a religious film

[@anime.soundtracks]

@@jayb0g watch diablo 3 (famous blizzard game) angels CGI, they're waay cooler (can use their light wings to grab & bind like tentacles) instead of boulder giants

[@akimoetam1282]

jayb0g they are protrayed as good guys when Enoch actually depicts them as evil. Also they’re rocks giants?

[@lennybogart]

Hardly _’spinoff’_ literature and more like a *backstory* in my opinion.

[@ordinarypete]

So a “prequel”?

[@arnavmushahary1013]

So spinoffs can't at the sametime produce in-world backstories?wot?

[@gubruikertje]

But spin-offs usually flesh out side content. So giving a minor character their whole own story seems like a perfect spin-off. Also, it's not exactly possible to be set before the events of the bible is it? It has to take place at the same time.

[@markuse3472]

Most of it has surely been manipulated, but I believe some of it comes from Noah's' sons and their wife's' stories they remembered and knew from that expired world that was ruled by demons and their offspring the giants. And they passed the stories along to their children and those children to theirs, etc. But most of it is corrupt.

[@JamesStakerWin]

@@gubruikertje Read the Sumerian King List to start. If you think the Bible is the start you've got a lot of reading to do.

[@NAFO_Badger_Brigade]

I was blessed to be able to do a course on Enoch as part of my Masters in Religion and Theology! Truly fascinating book but I rarely come across people who have read it! Recently my wife offered ministry to a young lady experiencing mental health struggles and before that the only other individual was a guy I employed to do some repairs to a domestic alarm!

[@miguelangelsb_]

It would be great to explore Ethiopian religion, I think it's a very obscure but interesting topic.

[@oakparkfamilycarectr]

@@watermelonlalala ethiopean christian are orthodox christians and they dont believe in such heresies

[@oakparkfamilycarectr]

@@watermelonlalala the Ethiopian orthodox church is the daughter of the Coptic orthodox church and have the same faith and this book is not part of their bible

[@chillin5703]

@@oakparkfamilycarectr well, yes and no. Yes, the Ethiopian Orthodox Church is tied to the Egyptian Coptic church historically - until the mid/late 20th century their top official (Abun) was extracted from egypt. But Ethiopian orthodoxy is in many ways it's own sect. For example, Ethiopian Orthodox Church recognizes many saints that are not recognized by other churches, including the Egyptian church.

[@chillin5703]

@@oakparkfamilycarectr the Ethiopian Orthodox Church also had its own schisms and religious movements. Did, for example, the Coptic church have an ewostathian movement?

[@tedted7166]

The Ethiopian Orthodox church, with one of the earliest christian churches, has 81 books in the bible compared to 66 in most churches. The book of Enoch is on of the books of the Ethiopian church. The book was lost to the rest of the world until the 18th century explorer James Bruce came across the book and took some copies to Europe. The discovery of the dead sea scrolls put the book back into the spot light and the Ethiopian version, which had been preserved in it's entirety for millennia were identical. You see, before christianity, there was alredy a strong judaic presence and many of the old testment books already existed in the area. After Ethiopia became the second nation to officially adopt christianity, the old books and the judaic culture that florished in the area for more than a thousend years were fused with the new testment books. This is the reason the Ethiopian church is very unique compared to churches in Europe. The books were preserved in the isolated mountain monastries and the judaic culture such as dietary restrictions, preserving both sunday and saturday as the Sabbath, removing shoes before going into the church building and the like still live on to this day. We could say that the Ethiopian church is the legacy of both judahism and oriental orthodox christianity.

[@Crispman_777]

It's funny how one vague sentence inspired so much writing.

[@ReligionForBreakfast]

My thoughts exactly

[@anime.soundtracks]

ancient people back then don`t have many use of their free time other than watching their cattle graze, no wonder they must rely on their imagination for entertainment.. poor us though, because those entertainment texts are now revered as authentic god's revelation

[@chrisiverson5648]

@@anime.soundtracks: you're lost...just saying...

[@anime.soundtracks]

@@chrisiverson5648 idk what you're trying to say but whatevs dude

[@markadams7046]

@@GreyAven I was thinking the same.

[@Hawaiiansky11]

The nephilim were spoken of in Genesis 6. They were called "giants" and "men of renown." So, if Jews are going to 'toss' the idea of Enoch, then they have to toss out that chapter.

[@ConvincingPeople]

I mean, he literally mentions that passage in Genesis as being one of the unexplained passages which provides the basis for 1 Enoch. The issue is the canonicity of the full text, which is discussed at length in the Talmud. Did you actually watch the whole video? :\

[@Spacemuffin147]

Why not toss yourself? Man is accountable for sin thus judgement. The purpose of Noah and the flood was to destroy humanity because those generations chose evil rather than good. The Nephilim are the Titans, Hercules, Perseus, and other legends thanks to their stature and ability.

[@tannerfrancisco8759]

@Frank Beans Earlier flood mythology? It's literally at the start of world history.

[@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony]

@@tannerfrancisco8759 World history according to itself.

[@outsidechambaz]

@@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony That is such a ironic statement

[@ThrillaLive]

How can someone reject a book from out the Bible? That doesn't seem like something we're allowed to do.

[@K-newborn]

christians ignore anything that contradicts jesus

[@StoneInMySandal]

The Bible as it is today wasn’t compiled until the 5th century. Centuries after the death of Jesus. Prior to that many different books were used by many different sects of Christians. Some of those books were included in the Bible, many were not. The books that were used in the Bible were compatible with the theology taught by Paul. That’s why modern Christianity is properly called Pauline Christianity. The books that didn’t attest to the validity of Pauline teachings were not included.

[@nawafalmahdi5435]

When you mentioned that Shemihaza taught spells and supernatural arts to humanity, it is very similar to the Quran’s interpretation of magic being taught in Babylon by two angels sent by Allah called Harut and Marut, except that in Islam, there are no fallen angels, because when Harut and Marut taught magic on earth, this was a test from Allah to humanity by not following the path of evil. After Harut and Marut left earth, some humans continued the path of magic from Babylon that stills exists today. Just food for thought.

[@kmaru4841]

Harut marut didn't leave earth, they punished hang upside down at somewhere on earth..Wallah Hualam

[@Horses7878]

Black magic?

[@shetos1233]

@@kmaru4841 No there is no mention of them being punished , also in Islam Angels don't have free will and creatures with no free will don't get punished

[@kmaru4841]

@@shetos1233 forgot to continue,... Wallah.. Hu'lam

[@crazysilly2914]

@@shetos1233 In Islam, they are kind of like robots, programmed to only follow God and righteousness

[@islandplace7235]

You know in Star Wars when Obi-Wan talks about the clone wars, leading to fan speculation for decades? This basically.

[@JaelaOrdo]

😂 Great comment 👍🏽

[@mathewfinch]

At great personal risk of seeming overly pedantic, it was Luke that mentioned the Clone Wars.

[@williamcope3854]

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[@alexsalcido8247]

Finally someone who speaks my language

[@oc3694]

I also thought his name was Obi one

[@TheMunchkinita2509]

The archangels wearing TMNT masks was such genius 😂 genuinely pulled a chuckle out of me!

[@agradhanurwedhasakti4865]

He even had Michael with orange mask, which is the mask of Michaelangelo😂

[@cassymonroe4597]

I came to the comments just for this 🤣

[@Thundralight]

Book of Jasher, mentioned in the Bible in Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18, says, “After the fallen angels went into the daughters of men, the sons of men taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order to provoke the Lord” (4:18) They are doing this today mixing species

[@robweissman5952]

He's basically the Boba Fett of the Bible... A minor character people thought sounded cool, so he was heaped on ridiculous significance.

[@ReligionForBreakfast]

This is the best analogy I’ve heard yet.

[@henoktibebe2406]

if James hasn't stolen the book from ethiopia no one in ethiopia would even discuss it to others b/c is not in any bible only Ethiopian so belive what u want to belive and time will reavel the truth

[@anthonybariek997]

Nail it. Perfect analogy

[@luckyseven8026]

For anyone scrolling through the comments going through a really hard time I truly hope things get better for you no matter who you are. Please don't give up trying. There is a reason you are here reading this message, to remind you that YOU are so important to God and His Son Jesus Christ. I can only imagine what you are going through but God knows. I also know how difficult life can be and I may not understand your exact experience but I am truly sorry that things have been so tough for you. I care and want you to know that you are not alone, you have a purpose, you are worthy of so much. Please take it one day at a time, one step at a time. I am praying that God will send His angels to each and everyone of you to comfort you, surround you with His love, give you peace beyond measure, and to change things for the better. Please know that you are here for a reason and that sometimes we don't always know why we go through things, maybe to help someone else going through the same thing because you understand such pain that someone else may not. Please also know you also have a Savior Jesus Christ who died for you, He loves you more than you could ever know. Please ask Him for forgiveness of wrongs and ask Him into your heart believing with sincerity. He can guide you in all things. I speak from experience it doesn't matter what we have done or that we think we don't measure up He will meet us where we are, even in our lowest low. He can give you peace beyond measure, I speak from experience. I can only imagine how hard it has been for you but I truly hope the best is yet to come for all of you. Please never give up, because He won't give up on us. Please remember this when things are hard and you feel at the end of your rope

[@venmis137]

They're even making a "Book of Boba Fett" now. They're actually calling it that. This analogy is perfect.

[@erenbrando3093]

I wish someone would made a book that has all the books regarding to the history of everything like the Bible. The content of the Bible is genesis, exodus, etc... I want them to include all unbanned and banned books / illegal, legal contents

[@lucifer2b666]

The books themselves or also scholarly opinions as well? I'm a bit confused about your idea. There's quite obvious fabrications like the Gnostic gospels and the apocrypha. They don't follow scripture. They infact directly contradict the bible outright in the majority of the texts. Enoch however seems to follow the bible very closely and is the only "non canonical" text referenced multiple times let alone once in the old and new testament. Enoch 3 seems bunk but Enoch 1 and 2 seem to very closely follow scripture and fill voids in the texts where things aren't explained in depth and it talks heavily about the end times and the coming of Jesus. Jesus even quotes it. I don't know if I believe in Enoch personally but I lean towards it being real and canonical. If the bible is correct, then yes scripture will be destroyed and erased only leaving the memory of it in our heart and soul. So a conspiracy that Enoch was hidden by the people in power makes sense. They wouldn't want you to know about the stuff in Enoch and believe it. It talks a lot about how the governments of the world will be run by demon hybrids and how we'll all be enslaved and lied to by them. Enoch is super fascinating whether it's canonical or not. Give it a read yourself.

[@TayTheGodFather]

@@lucifer2b666 where can I buy this book? Please respond this is very important to me

[@qpatho]

@@TayTheGodFather 3:18 he mentions his take on which book to read, but you can look for yourself which would suit you the most.

[@mimi45945]

@@lucifer2b666 The problem with the book of enoch is that the messianic figure is enoch not Jesus Christ, I believe this is why its considered Gnostic text. It was not part of the Apocrypha (which was removed from KJV). Enoch does not mention the four horsemen nor the Seals, Trumpets and Viles which are the judgements of God in "end times".. I suppose it boils down to which book you believe, personally I believe the book of Revelation for end times prophecies.

[@joemachunda]

There are historical records and there is ONE compilation of inspired text. Genesis to Revelation. The devil loves to confuse and deny. Read the bible to find truth

[@hazerain7354]

Directly mentioned in Jude. Found in the Dead Sea scrolls. Why isn't this in the bible ? Guess too much knowledge that a previous ruler didnt want us to know.

[@jaykush2938]

They don't want us to know angels can procreate

[@publiusvelocitor4668]

The story of Noah is in the Bible. Maybe they figured they had it covered already, and Enoch was extraneous.

[@Veshgard]

What do you mean, it isn't in the Bible? Yes it is! ...well, in the Tewahedo Orthodox (i.e. Ethiopian and Eritrean) version of the Bible, that is. That might be related to the fact that Book(s) of Enoch wasn't really available in most languages spoken by Christians. Certainly there was never any Latin translation, and a Greek translation probably existed at some point but we don't know anything about it. Good translations into other languages only became available in the past 200 years. So... You can't include Enoch in your Bible if you can't figure out what it says.

[@hazerain7354]

@@gulkoify fallen Angel's were the ones to teach humans astrology and how to make metal weapons. Sounds pretty important to me. Not to mention the book of giants says all those half human half animals god's and monsters other societies had were real. They were the offspring of fallen angel and an animal.

[@raloniusmaximus]

@@gulkoify i think it is, because almost every culture has a story about a flood. when it happened, we will probably never know

[@SJSUPhil]

Very informative video. Thank you.

[@user-dy7ce2bb9d]

Strange that Jesus would teach from a spin-off and Paul straight up quotes it.

[@justahillbilly7777]

Really does make you wonder if instead of being a "spin-off", it was actual scripture.

[@andriesquast2028]

Not only that. When it starts a clip of some University and then he takes off by saying Enoch is thousands and thousands of words, as to discourage people from reading it, it reminds me of the Roman Catholic High School i went to. There, the historical topic of the Sumerians and their theology was avoided like the plague. Is it because in Proverbs 30:4 kjv, king Solomon describes the God of the earth as the Sumerian Anunnaki deity Enki? Or is it because the Song Of Songs has so many similarities with the love poems written to commemorate the romance between Ishtar and Dumuzi? Does Solomon’s temple have a volume of 36,000 cubic cubits to refer to the 36,000 years Dumuzi reigned over the earth before the flood, as documented in the Sumerian Kings List? So, According to Sumerian texts, Enki is associated with the number 40, he is the god of wisdom, the God of the earth, credited with the creation of mankind, has a first earth born son named Dumuzi who has been delegated all rights and privileges that pertain to the number 40 and who is going to take over after Marduk, Enki’s oldest son. He was born on Nibiru. Anyway, Instead of starting by saying it’s a super interesting book and that even Jesus quoted from it, he is being an awful toss pot.

[@herekittykitty9324]

Where did Jesus teach from the Book of Enoch? Where did Paul quote from the book of Enoch?

[@herekittykitty9324]

@@andriesquast2028 My point is and made by you. The quotes are not direct. The quotes are something reiterated throughout the bible. There is proof these scribes were perverting texts. Anyone who has done an in depth study of the Dead Sea scrolls knows this. Evidence being 1Q Isaiah A and 1Q Isaiah B text. One Isaiah text is exact as we know it.....the other is where they were copying and changing it. Study of this sect of scribes shows they were constantly doing this. Please research for yourself.

[@dakotadyer9877]

That Paul quotes the book of Enoch is a lie. Jude says "Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all of them of all the ungodly acts they have committed in their ungodliness, and of all the defiant words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” There are lots of words said by all Biblical characters not recorded, even some which are later referred to by someone else. The Bible does in an instance or two quote popular culture or writings from the time in order to make a point, usually a negative point comparing what the people had heard or been taught versus what Jesus teaches.

[@partypao]

The watchers teaching humans science, arts, etc coincides with the Sumerian mythology that multiple gods taught humans how to become a civilization. And it also coincides well with the plurality of gods in the old testament which have been imperfectly 'edited out' by biased monotheistic scribes. And I think one of the Sumerian gods is actually in the O.T. if you can solve the riddle he gave.

[@jamilabrownie]

Greek mythology as well. Prometheus bringing human beings fire and being tortured by the King of the gods for it

[@zeus0710]

Exactly

[@raygreen2134]

you're actually incorrect. moses demythologize the sumerian myths in genesis, concerning that the sumerian mythology were just myths of the reknowned heroes of the past and now forgotten

[@rafaelperez6826]

Warriors meet gods

[@DxBlack]

@@raygreen2134 Yeaaaa....😬...imagine a myth suggesting other myths are myths.

[@abigrace1070]

The book of Enoch is not “it’s spin-off” it was made first and many things in the Bible seem to be making hints about this forgotten time. When all of the religious people got together after Jesus died and decided what would go into the Bible and what wouldn’t and which practices should be followed they must’ve just wanted to forget about this one so they did, but put in some stuff real sneaky like .

[@lapatossu5976]

I agree that it doesn't really make any sense that the story of Enoch would have been 'spun-off' from the minor mention in genesis.. Seems like a much more reasonable and logical assumption that the story already existed before genesis was written down. As it only makes sense to include the short reference to Enoch in genesis if the story was already popularly known. It would be like the new testament referencing Moses, and then claiming the story of Moses was only invented afterward.

[@lunarmodule6419]

The "historical approach" is not gesstimation, it's just like the science method. It's methodical and allows for pretty accurate text dating. 😃

[@christianescobedo66]

So would that make Enoch a canonical part of the bible?

[@millerjamie2988]

Spin off litterateur is a scholarly way of saying FAN FICTION & enoch is indeed that same as the bible

[@nachokoenig6279]

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[@bumblefoot5]

Enoch Great-grandson: Noah , Father: Enoch’s father was Jared (Genesis 5:18; cf. 1 Chronicles 1:3). Occupation: Jude 14-15 states that Enoch was a preacher of righteousness and a prophet. Bible References: Enoch is mentioned in Genesis 5:18-24, 1 Chronicles 1:3, Luke 3:37, Hebrews 11:5-6, Jude 1:14-15.

[@katsura2605]

Enoch is prophet Idris alaihissalam in islam..the second major prophet after prophet Adam alaihissalam

[@funtasticentertainment6850]

I’m gonna order the book of Enoch. I’m still on my Bible and I will collect more. Amen✝️💯❤️

[@girliehaha]

Me too! A lot of the truth was hidden man

[@joemachunda]

Just read the bible. Dont waste your money.

[@beauxdodson642]

@@girliehaha The Book of Enoch was written by the Essenes, the book praises Angels and the Book contradicts the Bible.

[@funtasticentertainment6850]

@@joemachunda I got the book. There’s no waste of money. He’s in heaven who wrote the book. And bible is powerful including the book of Enoch. Anyway good day

[@samlatin8933]

@@funtasticentertainment6850 Enoch never had a book

[@aronlukacs6911]

This seminar sounds interesting. I just finished my BA thesis on the Diagnostic and Prognostic Series of Esagil-kin-apli in ancient Mesopotamia. I think, that the field of religion and magic is pretty interesting and I will continue to study ancient history in MA. Thanks to you, I became devoted to this theme. Excellent video, excellent channel!!! Greetings from Hungary!

[@JamesStakerWin]

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. -Arthur C. Clarke.

[@betterd9160]

Read Jung

[@enoch9019]

This is literally my name

[@ReligionForBreakfast]

Awesome. Solid name.

[@krioni86sa]

What are your parent's names?

[@ulti-mantis]

@@krioni86sa Jared and Baraka, according to the genesis

[@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733]

@@elgatofelix8917 hopefully.

[@WalterLoggetti]

@@elgatofelix8917 He's a Chronicom. :P

[@ldiaz138]

Thank you very much! You helped me to understand The Book of Enoch! Fascinating stuff!

[@bumblefoot5]

Enoch Great-grandson: Noah , Father: Enoch’s father was Jared (Genesis 5:18; cf. 1 Chronicles 1:3). Occupation: Jude 14-15 states that Enoch was a preacher of righteousness and a prophet. Bible References: Enoch is mentioned in Genesis 5:18-24, 1 Chronicles 1:3, Luke 3:37, Hebrews 11:5-6, Jude 1:14-15.

[@LOreveals2U]

The 1st Book of Enoch is the best. However it tells you that this is for a remote generation to come. Aka. Now

[@TayTheGodFather]

Where can I buy this book ?

[@p1nt039]

@@TayTheGodFather there is an app for it if you cannot find a book

[@p1nt039]

@Butterfly Bum it’s called Book of Enoch and there’s also a book called the Apocrypha where Enoch is in it and the other books removed.

[@p1nt039]

@Butterfly Bum yes the app is Book of Enoch and it should be free

[@ericktellez7632]

Aka is fiction. Is all fake and make believe

[@Philemon_Logos]

I really liked the game El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron, which is based on the Book of Enoch.

[@softwareerror1988]

I also loved that game. The art style and the story kept me playing it for many days

[@LucasSampaioMaia]

Good game!

[@Bluecho4]

It was a wild ride, to say the least. A singular experience, the likes of which have not been seen in video games before or since.

[@BradyPostma]

That game seems fascinating to me. I haven't played it, but I'm kinda obsessed with it.

[@BasedSquiggles]

I love the art style in it, and Lucifel is fun

[@azbos22]

Curious, how does one conclude they're "spinoff literature" rather than a literal retelling of a suppressed history? Other than not wanting to believe the possibility?

[@greatworklads36]

Thats why its too hard to argue with religious guru. What if it is the other way around.

[@ding1466]

Because enoch was "taken up" like Elijah before the flood. He wouldnt have known all this stuff.

[@angelaevans6580]

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[@downwiththezionistpsychopa9812]

Arrogant reddit beta makes

[@JiveDadson]

Because we know none of it happened?

[@Sugondeese]

When it says the divine beings called “bne elohim” it uses the plural Elohim meaning gods. So this translates to children of gods, not God. This could possibly point to demigods

[@katsura2605]

Heresy..there is no God but Allah..in jesus orginal language aramaic, its Ilah..in arabic Allah End of discussion

[@thedemysticist6730]

The "Noah" movie had more inspiration from the Book of Enoch than it did from the Bible

[@Godzgirl23]

Gonna check that out

[@madelynarena7809]

The Movie WAS based on a lot of lies! The BIBLE IS ALL TRUTH! Study His Word you will see the lies from that movie.Do not put yur TRUST in Man Man will cause you to faulter on your path, Love and Blessings

[@TheShadowPerson.]

@@madelynarena7809 Because one book is right does not mean another book isn't right or valuable at least.

[@YuuyaKZMI]

@@madelynarena7809 Madam, every English translation of the book was made by man, therefore you're putting your trust in man. Unless you're able to read Hebrew etc. then you got me there. Also, "his word" could just literally be a cult writing between some ancient fellows that spread and spread like a trend. God may not even exist and y'all could've just been brainwashed?

[@thedemysticist6730]

@Dave Smith The Russell Crowe one... but thanks for reminding me about Evan Almighty.

[@Mike_Ka-Chowski]

The Nephelim are basically just the Titans from Attack on Titan

[@antonywmduma]

Based of Norse Mythology. The nephilim

[@robertsquint88]

Much of this was written during the Hellenistic period of ancient Greece. So visually there’s a lot of cross pollination if you will.

[@aubreyvails2048]

that plus more stay woke 🤫

[@myththelegend1036]

@@robertsquint88 The book of Enoch was written way before than.

[@Gruuvin1]

@@robertsquint88 cross pollination? Really? That's too sciency.

[@20firebird]

"he walked with god, because god took him." that's scary. i'm not sure i want to know.

[@psychoskate970]

Scary or beautiful

[@idaskudder4924]

You gotta be !!! Bcoz God is a stranger to u !

[@ninaoliver7516]

He walked so close to God for around 300 years and that God took him to heaven basically

[@willycormack3840]

So, who saw this event and was able to write it down at the time?

[@louisejones5773]

You need to know

[@Lea-ew3iv]

The name Enoch reminds me of ENKI, the babylonian god of wisdom. Also I think that the stories dealing with angels, dualism etc. were influenced by zoroastrianism.

[@MibuInMalibu]

Enki was one of the anunaki

[@thBrilliantFool]

Last time I was this early, the only literate people in society were religious monks.

[@davidgumazon]

So you're calling all chads are dumb illiterate people? All monks are virgins?

[@tibolcb6446]

you forgot the word european between in and society

[@samaelcercunnin5227]

You have woken too? It is the right time.

[@tibolcb6446]

read my comment again please

[@yeshuamattatron5745]

@@tibolcb6446 it wasn't just europeans tho. we have the literacy we have because societies over time started making education a universal initiative. for a very long time you needed resources and money for school, which the average person didn't have for school. so the average person was illiterate, besides scholars, people rich enough to pay for school, and people in professions that require you to learn reading/writing.

[@MrMike8789]

A spin off? Im sure when I looked into this years ago it was said that - it was a book that was always meant to be in the bible, but it was one of the parts that was extracted by higher religious authorities (popes etc) and was kept in the Vatican Archives for most of the time. Only in recent years has it been released and widely known. So more like a deleted scene / chapter, not spin off. Please not when I say "recent years" I dont mean a few or ten, I mean recent years in "lifetime / generation" terms.

[@ConvincingPeople]

Not really. 1 and 2 Enoch were always in the Ethiopian Bibles, both Christian (Tewahedo Orthodox) and Jewish (Beta Israel); it's just that very early on in both Christianity and Rabbinical Judaism, there was fierce debate over their authenticity and canonicity, as recorded in the Babylonian Talmud, for example, and so they got chopped by most denominations. That said, later groups did consider them heretical, which is likely why so few copies from after a certain point outside of Ethiopia survive. He talks about all this in the video.

[@MrMike8789]

@@ConvincingPeople “he talks about all this in the video” I can not stand these modern over used sentences that are actually arrogant and trying to make a point. I know he does......I was just mentioning what I had heard and thought it was for a while.......that is it. Oh, and I was just really mentioning the “spin off” aspect of it.

[@ConvincingPeople]

@@MrMike8789 I genuinely thought you hadn't watched that far into it before writing this comment because all of this is addressed at length in the video; that would not be unusual given some of the comments that this video has received. Also, unrelatedly, the "modern sentences" thing really does baffle me, because even if I were saying that as a matter of Socratic irony, the concept of Socratic irony is literally named after Socrates for a reason. It's not newfangled to make a point through feigning ignorance.

[@michaelsprinsky3965]

Everything in my spirit is guiding me to the book of Enoch.Question is why was it hidden.Must have some valuable info to keep from us...

[@Corvus_Crow]

@@michaelsprinsky3965 i was driven to it too. It was very difficult for me to get. Not many book stores sell it. It's a very interesting and short read. Talks a lot of the giants, the offspring of fallen angels who mated with human woman. The giants were inherently evil and destructive to mankind. The Smithsonian has been covering up giant human bones since day one. The leaders rewrite history.

[@maxavail]

7:59 Enoch himself is only apparently being made the recipient of the title, in fact this is how prophecy works, namely the prophet speaks as if he impersonates another character that he shares something in common with (humanity and righteousness). Enoch speaks as though he inhabited the character of Jesus at the time of the vision. This manner of prophecy is also found in Psalm 22 where king David is impersonating the crucified Jesus and speaking as though inhabiting Jesus' body and spirit at the time of the prophecy.

[@jasonkandahq1003]

Thank you for this post. I've actually been wondering about why he seemed to be referring to himself as a messiah. I've still got reading to do.

[@wilmaliles5932]

Im reading it now and it ties everything together.there are other books not released yet.the bible says to seek knowledge and its all coming to us now. Thank yahwey.

[@JudasMaccabeus1]

3 Enoch is Hekhalot Literature which is the pre cursor to the later Kabbalistic form of mysticism. It’s a very tough read if your not familiar with OT allegory and such.

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

It is also trash.

[@JudasMaccabeus1]

@@johnbreitmeier3268 We’re all entitled to an opinion. Even if it’s a stupid one. 🖖

[@runningtraveler1193]

I don't understand how you know that the Book of Enoch was a spin-off... How can we prove the Book of Enoch came 100% *after* the final compilation of Genesis. It could very well have been that church leaders didn't like the Book of Enoch, so they downplayed it, but gave him a brief summary in Genesis to appease Enoch's readers. Or, maybe, Genesis authors thought, "We'll give the reader of Genesis a brief mention that there was a flood because we don't have room in this already very long book to go into detail; if the readers want more, they can go read Enoch: There was a flood, and a guy named Enoch. Moving on...."

[@jd190d]

If you have proof of it being anything more than fanfic, please provide it. The idea is that if we don't have evidence for a particular outcome you can't just make things up. If you do that's how crazy things like religions are created.

[@pointblank2890]

That's the intriguing and frustrating about it. Which is real? Is it all real? The people over the thousands of years who collated the Bible tried their best in making a cohesive narrative--but is it mundane or divine? I guess it wont be until death, and hopefully the end of times and (hopefully) the re-establishment of the new earth will we get the bigger picture. But for now, we can only believe what we believe is to be the right answer, and hope for the best.

[@jd190d]

@Drinker_Of_ Milk We know that somebody wrote it. We have no evidence that it is in any way associated with the writer/writers of the original documents. Fanfic is a term applied to work about a particular subject that is not necessarily associated with the work, like various fan Star Trek novels. So in the current understanding it is fanfic until proven otherwise. You could go out there and prove a connection and this will take it out of the fanfic category, until then it's fanfic.

[@jd190d]

@Drinker_Of_ Milk Fanfic is just an account that is not factual or in the case of established fictional narratives not canon. Fanfic does apply to this for the aforementioned reasons until you prove it is actually connected in some way other than a similar narrative. Does the label fanfic make you sad, because it is fanfic until someone provides the connection.

[@somesauce]

@Drinker_Of_ Milk I'm gonna have to agree with jd on this one Chief, no beef, jd just has the correct and coherent definition of fanfic since that's the term you wanted to use in the first place.

[@LangThoughts]

Actually, a small correction from a Jew studying Kabbalah: In modern Judaism, even in the strict Rabbinic tradition, the statements of the Zohar about Enoch have been restored, just with the caution that study of them should be confined to Jews who have met various qualifications (depending on the exact Rabbi) and commentators in the past 400 years on b. Hagigah who have met those qualifications have written extensively on how the story of Elisha b. Avuyah doesn't contradict the Zoharic statements, but is rather a cautionary tale about restricting access to these ideas to the unworthy. Even those who don't study Kabbalah will often admit that Enoch=Metat-ron, but state that "only those who study Kabbalah know what that means", and this is considered perfectly fine. Note that this especially true given that various Midrashic texts link Enoch with Elijah, and some explain this as a reference to both of them being angelified. Note also that the Zohar seems to indicate a Jewish idea of an Ur-Enoch, that was holy and studied before Sinai, but because Moses said that Israelites should abandon the study of the book, the current version was corrupted by "pagans" (probably pre-Islamic Arabs and surrounding people) and failed attempts were made by non-Mainstream Jewish communities in the late Second Temple Period to Remonotheize the book, and this version was later Christianized, and lead to what we know as 1 Enoch (and it is possible to read that the belief is also that the same Ur-Enoch lead to a different tradition that lead to 2 Enoch)

[@siriusfun]

All that and yet it was handed down from prior cultures by way of Abraham; the subsequent Jewish appropriation and mystifying of actual historic events being completely irrelevant.

[@LangThoughts]

@@siriusfun I was not making a theological statement, just making a point about why I felt the presentation of the Book's current cultural relevance in Modern Judaism was incorrect. The video talks about modern use of the book; I was adding how some people view it today.

[@LangThoughts]

@@siriusfun Seriously, the creator is presenting it from a secular perspective; he is treating it with the idea that he doesn't believe in it. From that perspective, how in the world is noting that the idea of a "Book of Enoch" influenced the Zohar "irrelevant"

[@furiousg3orge]

Off topic, but “remonotheize” is a really cool word

[@zachbos5108]

Restricting information is always suspicious

[@Josh-jb7yu]

I paused Supernatural S10 Episode 20 to listen to this while I made dinner. Literally the episode about a watcher angel lol

[@siriusfun]

Enoch was written about by several cultures in the Sinai peninsula under various names - this work predates the Judaic books by thousands of years. It's actually Genesis et al. that are "spin offs". Dig a little deeper.

[@gmcrosa]

Metatron sounds like an excellent name for a robot on an ancient text inspired manga.

[@Firenze1924]

I’d love to hear what you have to say about Mormonism!!!

[@ItisMoody]

You have a spectacular amount of unbiased, scientific theological information. I'd love to hear more from you about the connections between Christianity and Islam, especially where the Bible (in whichever books) had verses that could have been interpreted as connotations or hints at Islam or prophet Mohammed. Thank you!

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

The Koran and Mohammed came 600 years after Jesus and the New Testament. It claims to have been written by an illiterate camel driver who thought he was accurately reporting Judaism and Christianity to his fellow Arbs. Unfortunately since he could not read he badly butchered the Bible stories and claimed they came from an angel. This is all from the forward of MY copy of the Koran. The Koran is just as much late garbage by a bad and lying author as the Book of Enoch was. Mohammed's account of Jesus, Moses and Abraham differe wildly and seriously from the eyewitness Biblical accounts. Trash.

[@nullvoid6095]

Islam mostly has contact with fringe Gnostic Christian sects and the Syriac Church, not Roman Catholicism or Eastern Orthodoxy. The Biblical verses don’t say much because they could be interpreted in many ways. The Qur'anic doctrine on prophets could be one take on that.

[@FoodNerds]

I'm very glad to see someone take an academic approach to this. I'm glad that your siminar was a success perhaps I can attend a future one. I've have wanted to learn about the book of Enoch for a while.

[@joshuaabell444]

The first book of Enoch literally explained all my what’s ifs as well as anything I was overly curious about.

[@realsouf6]

what were your what ifs ?

[@acielvert8573]

where can i find the book?

[@lucynjuguna9653]

@@acielvert8573 download it

[@acielvert8573]

@@lucynjuguna9653 link?

[@nigelarcani]

Where can I get it?

[@motivationalservices]

Most of what we know about Enoch, we learn from the Sumerian Tablets. They tell us he was transitioned to a higher, non physical dimension.

[@mattbugg4568]

The book of Enoch is very good. I read it followed down the rabbit hole and eventually figured it out. There is five books in the series and the moral of the story is. The angles took human wife's which go told them they could not do God could not take care of it because of his duty station so he trained someone to run things for him Enoch. Enoch was human and had a wife a son the son had a wife and Enoch had a grandchild Noah. Enoch left all this behind to serve God. Moral of the story Enoch followed God and was found perfect. The training is outlined in the book and the angles did not follow God they were disobedient. God gave Noah the plans for the ark to be saved old testament.and Enoch returned home for a year after training to spend with his family and say goodbye because he couldn't come back. Then God took Enoch and made him the tetragrammaton. Then God went to deal with his disobedient angles. He shut the door of the ark. And it started to rain. The rest of history. In The end of the books were saved and left for all mankind for all generation's. The moral of the story is be obedient to God.

[@naturevideos4754]

Blasphemy

[@Rick_Cleland]

🤘🏻🧿🤘🏻🧿🤘🏻🧿 🙏🏻👁🙏🏻👁🙏🏻👁

[@Deshawn318]

Facts

[@stomenkalosmic369]

There are two very interesting subjects tied to the book of enoch. First, his association by the early muslims with hermes trismegistus(which is further associated with thoth) and the sabeans, and second, the most controversial issue in the book, which is what most likely led to its "abandonment" by non ethiopan christians and jews, the portayal of angels as being able/willing to marry/mate with humans. So maybe you could do 2 videos about these 2 topics?

[@brandystephens3112]

Also he was shown the 12 portals to heaven and 1 that never closed . I heard its over anartica

[@getasimbe]

@@brandystephens3112 You heard? From where, the grapevine?

[@siriusfun]

Indeed. And prior to that, he was known as Thoth in Egypt; the Emerald Tablets being the connection.

[@getasimbe]

@Socio Cynical huh?

[@tophers3756]

Metatron sounds like a Transformer.

[@Crispman_777]

Sounds like what a New Cybertron would be called.

[@AstroCreep77]

Alan Rickman is the Metatron

[@piros100]

Good Omens did that joke too :)

[@TryinaD]

Well you’re in luck, because in undertale he’s a robot!

[@tophers3756]

@@piros100 not surprising. It's an easy observation. I'm hardly the sharpest knife in the drawer. 🐵

[@Themindofreyrey]

Great video! Please do one on The Book of Jubilees, Jasher, and Maccabees.

[@jordanrhea1504]

So basically the Rogue One of the Hebrew Bible

[@bigstunna2049]

That's a perfect description

[@falouerba7730]

Clone wars of the Hebrew bible?

[@Deco_2k]

lol

[@winstonbarquez9538]

Numbers 13:32-33 reveal the Nephilim as giants, like Goliath, and it appears that these come from the legend of the Watchers.

[@matty9460]

Just finished the second parable of 2nd enoch. It's amazing how much it reads like a new testament book

[@STho205]

The writing style of that era all sounds similar. Books attributed to 300bc to 300ad all have much more detail, a good level of prophesy and fate built into the text. The earlier books such as the first five of the Holy Scriptures of the Hebrews are pretty brief, with a loaded sentence here and there with no further explanation (the race of The Great Men of Renown for instance, with no listing of these renowned men). Early books also tent to do just cause and effect. Free will choices make one obedient to God or contrary to God's intent and therefore likely filled with sinful and murderous actions. Most of the stories in Genesis are brother vs brother stories. That would reappear in the tales of David and his rival brothers.

[@williamparker5822]

Thank you

[@BMWE90HQ]

Metatron sounds like Facebook’s final form…

[@Dunkle0steus]

I read that the elohim and nephilim were based on stories of gods and demigods (Gilgamesh, Theseus, etc.) in other cultures being interpreted through their own religion. Stories of demigods would have been popular and common in the middle east. That explanation fits the lines in Genesis better than the interpretation in Enoch.

[@cr1mssy491]

Indeed

[@mcshiro1941]

Elohim refers to any spiritual being, God is referred to as Elohim aswell as angels and Satan and even us as humans that are made in Gods image. The nephilim are the off springs of the fallen angels and humans which was a corrupt race that wasn’t fully human which is why God brought the flood and later asked Joshua and even all the way to king David to attack certain nations that would have contained these nephilim. As a believe in the bible and from a lot of research I’ve done on ancient civilizations and pegan religions I tend to believe that the stories of demigods and titans and giants and star men found in so many historic stories are based off the bible and are just other civilizations not fully understanding the story of the fallen angels

[@Dunkle0steus]

@@mcshiro1941 That's quite a lot of text, but there are aspects of your theory that I think need more support. As a viewer of this channel, you should be fully aware that the bible is a collection of books and writing by people. Analysis of the bible can confirm this, and there's ample evidence. That means when you analyze the bible or other ancient religious or sacred texts, you have to examine the historical context it existed in. The writers of such books have their own motives, goals, and ideas, and that influences what they write. The timing of the writing of Genesis was originally dated to the 10th century BCE, but modern analyses tend to favour the 6th century BCE. The story of Gilgamesh dates to at least the 18th century BCE, and stories of Greek demigods may date to the Mycenaean period in Greece (before ~1200 BCE). The Iliad takes place around 1200 BCE, but its written form probably dates to a few centuries later. This shows that demigods existed in myths and legends in a variety of forms throughout the eastern Mediterranean centuries before the composition of the book of Genesis, which first mentions the Nephilim. These stories can't be based off the bible, because the bible was written after, thus it's far more likely (as I said before) that the bible bases the Nephilim on those earlier stories. If you're going to talk about the history of the bible, you have to remove yourself from your personal attachment as a religious text. The philosophy, meaning, and theology of the bible have to be separated from the historicity of it. If you can't do that, and every theory you come up with relies on the idea that the bible must be the source of all other stories and mythologies, you can't have an honest conversation on this topic.

[@mcshiro1941]

Dunkleosteus i understand genesis is written later but it’s accounts of past history inspired by God. I’m not basing my theory on the fallen angels and giants purely off religious texts but also off stories found in many history civilizations that are based off the same topics. We are also looking at the scriptures from a different lens. I believe the word of God is inspired by God through his accounts in the people who wrote them and so that is the standard I have on this topic and I take other religious texts with a grain of salt. I see them references great points that help figure out the topic but ya. Sorry for making it super long. This is one of the those topics that takes a full conversation to explain ya know. Anyways appreciate the reply!

[@Dunkle0steus]

@@paradisecityX0 I interpreted MC Shiro's post as an understanding of the bible as if it is the literal word of God. There are many who believe that bible should be taken as literal truth, and that the words written in it are infallible. MC Shiro's position is that all the other cultures in the near east are just misinterpreting the stories in the bible (which hadn't been written yet). I think his view point puts too much weight on the bible. It relies on the bible being infallible. He starts with his conclusion, that the bible is absolute, and derives explanations for what he observes from his conclusion. I assume he is doing this because he refuses to see the bible as only a book instead of as a metaphysical source of knowledge.

[@justineharper3346]

Love the ninja turtles angels 😂. I appreciate the fact that you made Micheal the orange one 😂

[@GaaraFan01]

phenomenal video. I had no idea some believed Enoch ‘ascended’ into AA Metatron, but wow that’s blowing my mind. you added a lot of information I didn’t know in such a concise manner, you definitely gained a new subscriber :)

[@amanitamuscaria7500]

Emily, have a look at Paul Wallis' interpretation of the ancient languages. He has a channel and several books. Very interesting and knowledgeable guy with a background in ministry.

[@jeansebcormier7518]

Thanks for the thorough explanation. Much appreciated

[@kriterer]

After the slew of ~500 year generations of nephilim in Genesis, I was always very interested in what they actually were. Makes sense that they're actually just children of humans and angels.

[@AverageAmerican]

Just children of Humans and angels are a race of giants nowadays we call them aliens. See my video _200 Nephilim in 300 Seconds_

[@AverageAmerican]

@@vasiliskaranos605 why not?

[@AverageAmerican]

@@vasiliskaranos605 YOU BEEN LIED TO about giants. But you're right about Jesus. He didn't become an angel, He became a man! Plus, if Humans only mate with Humans, then you can't explain Jesus birth!

[@AverageAmerican]

@@vasiliskaranos605 Correct, GOD didn't mate with Mary, rather Mary gave birth to GOD. Do you understand you're a Hebrew? So, it wasn't just Mary's DNA that's why it's a miracle.

[@sol-hunter2332]

​@@AverageAmericanhow can it not explain Jesus birth? It God can create a star out of thin air, or create humans where there were no humans, why could He not make a woman pregnant without sexual intercourse?

[@bionicconscious]

We always thought attack on titan was WWII fanfic, but it really is prolly based of the Nephilim

[@deenamarie830]

Everything is based off of the trilogy... Games movies life it's a reenactment Recreation will you play the roles and we have choices that we can make to alter things but bottom line is it's always got the same outcome the gift is and how we live life... we are the one that creates everything that we see and experience we just don't understand that we think we're victims and more helpless caught in this downward spiral but we are the downward spiral it's mental the outside world is a reflection of our inner state of being

[@verinocruz2276]

U got ig?

[@HeavyReign12]

Made me think of attack on titan too. Really makes you think. Are these stories as much a part of human nature that will write them no matter the time we are in or was their an ancient tradition or culture that permeates in echos through all of our respective cultures. Is hyborea real?

[@Cha-bj7hd]

I thought about AOT as well when speaking about Giants eating humans.But based on many other animes, they love to twist the bible and add similar conceptd: Trinity, dragon, sin,...

[@mjolninja9358]

Close, Attack on titan was both inspired from WW2 and norse mythology with Ymir being the first titan/giant and so on. All modern stories takes archetypes from the old classics.

[@briteness]

This seems like a pretty reasonable introduction to the Book of Enoch. I had not realized that it was included in the Canon of the Ethiopian church. That is not insignificant. Also the fact that Jude refers to it matters. And it does seem to parallel various passages in the New Testament. I don't want to get carried away (although perhaps that wouldn't be so bad, since that is what God did with Enoch), but I am going to read this book.

[@MetalFreak187]

Aren't some of the oldest churches in Ethiopia aswell? Interesting

[@misslaurynhill]

yes, we in the ethiopian church do include it as part of our biblical canon, as does the eritrean church.

[@BluMacron]

the Ethiopian bible has i think 82 or 83 books whereas the Christian bible has only 66, there is a lot more that got taken out.

[@Plethorality]

Carried away.... ; )

[@myhb1219]

Say the protestant church no other Christian other than protestants got 66 cannon​@beaniebooreviews8921

[@Cway972]

Thanks!