Is a theology degree worth it?

[@Dr.TuRon_Davis]

I have a doctorate in theology with an emphasis on pastoral counseling. I combined that with certifications in life coaching, psychology, and mental health. I'm now an author and work for Journey EmbracedKC LLC where I offer transformative coaching and spiritual mentoring. I work in partnership with a clinical psychologist and a professional licensed counselor. As ordained ministers, we are exempt from needing a state license to provide counseling in the spiritual realm or equivalent. This may help someone needing to choose a pathway to work with a theology degree.

[@praveenkumar-yo1xg]

Brother can I talk to you with regard to Bible studies?

[@d2h655]

thank you

[@MarkBH70]

I want to be a missionary. God was excited about it before I was. Can anyone tell me the difference between MDiv. and MTS? I have a general gist of the two. I thought MTS dealt with other religions and was more theory. Congratulations on your success with your ThD! I studied what interested me in university, and I am very glad I did. I believe people should study their passion, and that will lead to work. I disagree with following the money, because doing something distasteful will lead one to a dead end. One won't progress far because one is not doing what comes natural to one. Like marrying someone one doesn't love.

[@pravond]

I’ve been going back and forth on schooling for this. I would love to talk to you about this if you’re willing. I am applying for next semester either to seminary or a masters in Christian counseling program

[@Humblebeginnings1986]

As a fellow Moody grad, I can say that your heart really appears to be in the right place, brother. I can tell that your walk with God has not only affected your head but your heart. Thank you for posting this. All the best. 🙏

[@Rikusm1]

Last part of the video... Gold. I am strongly considering to start a degree in theology now. And I think I got my answer. Will start working on that asap

[@ronchandonia1131]

I really enjoy the way you talk with your viewers, so "real" and often moving. I did a couple theology degrees (undergrad and masters) at Notre Dame years ago, then moved on to a doctorate in a different area. Taught in college and only occasionally drew directly on my theology background, but more recently found myself involved in forming deacons for Catholic ministry. Best work I ever did! Of course, it paid almost nothing, but I loved it passionately . . . and having learned how to learn theology, I was able to immerse myself in it again and thereby guide men nearly my own age who were eager to learn "God-talk" but had no idea how to go about it. In short, as you indicate in this video chat, my theology degrees did not have a cash payoff, but they have blessed me in ways I had not expected.

[@chikkipop]

*"I was able to immerse myself in it again and thereby guide men nearly my own age who were eager to learn "God-talk" but had no idea how to go about it"* How does one go about it?

[@praveenkumar-yo1xg]

Where did you take your Bible degree?

[@ronchandonia1131]

Me? At Notre Dame (in Indiana)@@praveenkumar-yo1xg

[@augustinian2018]

My approach (compressing a lengthy and complicated personal journey into a sentence) was to major in philosophy, math, and computer science and take classical languages on the side. Took a little longer than four years, but it’s permitted me to study philosophy, theology, and biblical studies in my free time while I work as a software developer, which provides for my family and the book munchies. Philosophy in particular was useful in learning to cut through denominational lines and seek truth wherever it may be found.

[@loonacyy2081]

I’ve been scrolling for hours trying to find a genuine video on this and finally found it thank you and god bless, you earned a sub

[@GospelSimplicity]

Awesome, thank you!

[@juancarlostownsend7013]

Your third question… absolutely touching

[@GospelSimplicity]

Thanks!

[@Willonly-ww5no]

I am a agnostic who is thinking of getting a bachelor in theology. This video gave me alot of insight, thank you

[@empirical_blade6926]

Thank you so much for this, I'm currently studying Theology at St Mary's Catholic University in Twickenham.

[@StreetsOfVancouverChannel]

**EDUCATION/LEARNING versus SECURING A CAREER** - one of my bible college teachers wisely explained that if one was looking to make a career in theology (as a teacher/professor) that getting excellent grades/degrees were essential... but that if I preferred the education/understanding element (and had no interest in a specific theological career) that spending that school money on a library of the best books available was the path to pursue. I chose the latter and have never regretted the choice. Online learning and a solid personal theological/philosophical library have been of crucial importance in terms of how I look at the world and how I love/revere/worship the Creator.

[@chikkipop]

What makes you think there is a "creator," let alone one that is deserving of worship?

[@michaelrmims]

Great perspective my brother! I hope this encourages a lot of young adults.

[@Mike-lh4wn]

We had a children's pastor who was a PhD in Microbiology from Stanford. Best and most loved children's pastor I've known. As they say God qualifies the called and doesn't always call the qualified. The apostle Paul went to the greatest seminary of his time. In one sense it totally didn't help him. But in Christ God was able to use that tremendously. The other apostles were fishermen and tax collectors and other unlearned folk. I suppose the difference was that they were with jesus and loved him and learned from him directly. Even after Paul's own conversion it sounds like he had to go down to Arabia for three years just to unlearn and relearn what he really needed to know directly from the Spirit. So perhaps for me the focus is to just love God and follow the Spirit. And he can supply whatever I need. Thanks for the thought-provoking conversation. Much love in Christ.❤

[@boss56679]

I really liked this. I’m currently deciding what classes to take before I move on to college, and I know in my heart I have a burning desire for the priesthood. God may be calling me to this way of life, or not. But either way, I quickly discerned that getting a degree in theology would be beneficial to me at the very least spiritually whichever path I’m called to chose in life. I hadn’t gone much deeper into getting a degree like this, but this video helped a lot. I likely will be able to discern my vocation in college and whatever I chose still be happy with the degree I have, Lord willing. I’ll probably do something tech related on the side as a backup.

[@davidgoode7416]

Thank you for doing this video, I found it very insightful

[@TruthUnites]

great video and great advice Austin!

[@GospelSimplicity]

Thanks, Gavin! Hope you're settling back in after your whirlwind traveling schedule!

[@christopherpearson2116]

@@GospelSimplicity Well, I would say that given how theology has heavily shaped Christendom... and since the split from East Orthodoxy, etc... That yes, a degree is often worth it. Or to examine the, often broad claims made in Romans 1, 5, 8, 9 and 11. About both human nature, free will, nature in general... and what is, or is not 'self evident', too, say? As well as in the often absence, of John 14:12... being widely fulfilled.

[@imjustheretogrill9260]

Like everything in life: it depends.

[@Steve-wg3cr]

Good video Austin. I too have a theology degree (Master's degree) and a doctorate in leadership studies. Neither is a big money maker but fortunately I had a military GI bill and other sources to pay for it all. I never had to take a loan. I've done some teaching and am currently pastoring a small house church for no pay which is the way I want it (saves money for more important things). I agree with your opinions that it is often better to learn theology through self-study rather than borrowing/spending a large amount of money for a theology degree. I believe it's possible and one could learn from self-study just as well as a college or seminary theology program if done correctly. I would actually recommend most people do it that way.

[@Steve-wg3cr]

@@hectorrodriguez8541 Hi Hector. Thought I had replied earlier but apparently it didn't save. I'm no expert but here are a few recommendations about doing self-study in theology. First you can obtain a school catalog from a college or university and what courses are required for a degree in what you want to study for (there will be some differences in a degree in theology and one for practical ministry). Next, try to learn what textbooks are required for each course. Contact someone who has completed the courses or currently taking the ones that match what you want to take and obtain these books for your self-study. I'm pretty sure there are students who would be willing to share this information for you. I don't think you have to do everything that a degree or course requires. You can modify the list of courses/books that you want to take to fit your needs. You can also consider completing assignments that regular college student would do such as a research papers. A lot can be learned through research and writing. It would really help if you are mentored by a pastor/minister while doing the self-study. That way you can receive personal guidance, do practical ministry, and receive academic type learning at the same time. A pastor would likely be glad to help and provide on-the-job training a the same time while helping guide you through self-study. There is a lot of information and other resources available online. Some subjects would be more challenging through self-study such as the biblical languages for example. But it can be done. Hope this helps. Blessings.

[@picturepablo4918]

I would appreciate a list of the books you studied. I can’t afford to get a degree but I love learning the Word of God and teaching it correctly

[@GospelSimplicity]

On my website I list every book I had to read for my degree

[@JohnVianneyPatron]

I'm an academic top performer, always concerned about my GPA. In my first semester at seminary a professor asked to see me: He told me he was impressed with my abilities to research analyse and write. But he was concerned that was getting in the way of growing in personal holiness. Definitely second Austin's "Are you willing to let it shape you?" comment

[@GospelSimplicity]

I can relate to that so much. If I could talk to my freshman self, I'd tell him a 4.0 is nothing without personal holiness

[@thyikmnnnn]

What is a GPA ?

[@JohnVianneyPatron]

@@thyikmnnnn Grade Point Average - The average assessment grade for a particular subject or C-GPA Cumulatively for the entire degree. Normally based on a 4-point scale with a 4 meaning 93℅+ or an "A" or "A+". An "A-" (90-93%) is normally considered a 3.7 on the 4-point scale. Top students aim for a 4 in each course. A 3 (or "B" grade =83%) is the minimum required to maintain registration in a Master's program. During all 4 years of seminary, I lived in absolute fear and anxiety (paralyzing sometimes) of receiving any mark less than an A. Continually aiming for a 4.0 at a top seminary will surely give you a taste of what hell is like. Maybe that's why so many seminary graduates leave with their faith shaken?

[@thyikmnnnn]

@@JohnVianneyPatron Thanks.That's crazy.. In UK universities ( especially in essay based subjects) if someone achieved over 90% on any assessment they would considered super smart. To achieve what we call 1st class honours ( the best classification of degree) one needs to average over 70%.

[@JohnVianneyPatron]

@@thyikmnnnn It does get progressively harder, at undergrad you need to maintain a 73% (instead of an 83% average) to keep your registration. And if you want to get into a good Ph.D. program (on a full ride) you need a 4.0 CGPA. It's a measure of your dedication to the field and basic intelligence to get a 4.0 in a subject you don't like. I remember being told that if I was looking for a funded Ph.D. (we had Ph.D. programs come to our MDiv class to explain what they wanted to see), I should keep to the following grading system: "93+ = awesome you are doing what you are supposed to. 90-92 = warning, don't fu*k up again (and this was in a seminary)! 83-89 = start packing." Seminary had a mixture of essays, quizzes, and written exams for each class. [At our seminary class participation though graded, was not part of the overall class mark]. I studied in the UK and there seemed to be a cap placed on essays/research papers of 80%. No matter how hard we worked no one scored over 80. So it seems you DO have a similar system, it's just not explicitly stated.

[@George-ur8ow]

Good vid! at the heart of the video I feel is the question you posed: "are you willing to let it shape you"? Along similar lines, I'm of the opinion that just about every degree is "worth it" if the following condition is met: if one has taken the process seriously, rather than just simply going through the motions. By taking the process seriously, one will have allowed the experience to shape them. If someone has taken the process seriously, then it should have (1) sharpened their thought process, (2) improved their communication skills and (3) opened some doors and connections. When I went to Law School, there was little to no actual practical or technical teaching. It is my understanding not much has changed (95% of it being the reading of historical court opinions on laws that have long since been overturned). The process, however, most certainly sharpened my thought process, improved my communication skills and opened many doors. I should add the caveat that price should be kept in mind. I went to state schools throughout undergraduate and law - saving potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars.

[@pcb9134]

Thank you for your video Andy! I suggest you four things. 1. Try to teach online (option a. Make your own courses to buy them online. Option b. Check what seminaries are online around the world.). 2. Learn a second language such as Spanish, and teach students in another language. 3. Start writing your books as a theologian. 4. Study a graduate degree to have more open doors not only in the United States, but around the world. There are seminaries that are not expensive, and many students are there who need teachers like you. Discern it with God. God bless you!

[@TheNikolinho]

Of course, brother, it's worth it! We're both Moody students even though you don't know me. We're getting one of the finest theology education in the country, if not in the world! But putting Moody aside, do NOT think in any other way except a spiritual and theological formation! Do not think about diplomas, money, a career, etc. That's not why are we studying and having sleepless nights and acing the exams and papers! We do it to glorify Christ, who sent us (if He indeed did send us - I truly believe He did send me) to do the job of a studious theologian who can grasp more and serve more than most churchgoers. If you see it just as a diploma, which I would never - then yeah, it may not be useful. I know people who finished or were close to finishing Moody and have barely any usage from it. :( It bothers me. But I also have a friend who, after finishing Moody, married and moved to Indonesia as a missionary pastor! So, God will absolutely use our knowledge, grades, learning, and degree IF we submit to His plans in humility, understand we're not better than others, and use all of that for the service of the Church and people! I am so thankful I will be getting my diploma soon with ZERO DEBT - which barely anyone in the country can say - and I am looking forward to God's calling upon my life of teaching, preaching, defending the faith, continuous studies, writing, and loving the church/people. In that context, the degree absolutely makes sense! :D Theology IS indeed the queen of science, and I see nothing close to theology being worth studying! :) Blessings

[@freebird1118]

Thanks for sharing. You are right. This applies to any type of degree. The best scenario is getting into a good job, or field, that offers college support, which can be used to advance your career within the area you are working. This is not a recruiting campaign, but the military was good for that. Those in ministry should be constantly learning. Thanks again, and God bless

[@christianazacarias]

Hello! I’m here about those books you mentioned on 4:40? 😊

[@romijay9488]

I am very interested in learning about the Theological material, and thank you for this video.

[@sethn1094]

Thanks for the advice, I'm doing 2 majors (History and Theology) and questions like this have plagued me throughout my degree. I became a Catholic 2 years ago after the Pentecostal church I had my initial conversion in and I wonder if the average Protestant gains more use out of a theology degree because oppurtunities for lay ministry are more plentiful, whereas in the Catho-sphere the main professional uses for a theology degree would perhaps mainly be clergy, teaching, or some kind of diocesan role; my friends jokingly call the last category "being a 'professional Catholic'". Thank you for all of your work on this channel! God Bless.

[@marcco44]

Austin i see you writing theological books in the future.... you are the next generation, no question!

[@GospelSimplicity]

Thank you so much. That is certainly a dream of mine

[@jamesmeyer4596]

I believe it's actually keeping honest with your search with the truth and always keeping your priorities straight. Probably the main problem would be the bias you gain in one or the other which might blind or fog your vision in some sense. God will show his ways wherever he wants to take you. God bless.

[@BaseCampWV]

it seems to me, its worth will only be determined on judgement day.

[@jesseengland456]

Hello Austin thanks for the video it really helped me a lot right now I’m considering getting my associate and/or bachelors in psychology. While doing a lay pastoral ministry before I get a degree in ministry or some related field.

[@Jason-gt5bz]

Thank you for this.

[@GospelSimplicity]

My pleasure!

[@CornCod1]

Well, four years ago I was depressed and dejected after my wife divorced me for unscriptural reasons. For a couple years I was down in the dumps. I was always pretty well read in theology and religious subjects for a layman and active in the church. I even wrote a bit for a Lutheran weekly years ago. I decided to do something to change my life. I'm too old to go for the pastorate and I stink at languages anyway. I began at taking a 6 course Certificate in Lutheran Studies. It was mercifully cheap, but Its from an accredited semimary and I am enjoying it immensely. I'm almost finished with it. Six months ago I enrolled in a free Lutheran seminary associated with a micro-Synod for a Masters in Theological Studies online and I am having fun with that too.I spend a good deal of my time poring over 19th Century texts and am having a grand adventure. None of this has much application to the various lay offices I hold in the church. It's a great hobby for a 63 year-old semi-retired man like me.

[@snaphaan5049]

Awesome! But it always feels like it's more than a hobby doesn't it?

[@Anx.iD444]

Love this video. Have been on a big spinning wheel choosing degeees for my college years. Having a family and covid striking down has post poned me tremendously and my ambitions deteriated. Was 24 when i was closing up on my associates of arts, now im turning 30. Just now got back in the want to study and have come to the conclusion that i want to major in philosophy and psychology. Possibly theolygy as well since i love the study of religions. It all ties together 🖤 even though I'm very ambitions in becoming a big dj 🤣 i just love to help other people and having tools to do so is very blossful

[@mygirlmacy]

Just subscribed, thanks for sharing

[@mrwiggiewoo]

I've been watching your channel now for the past couple of years. I actually remember the first one I watched, It was 2020 at the height of the riots and the lockdowns and it was such a crazy scary time. Oswald Chambers- I looked him up because I found myself reading " My Utmost for His Highest" again. I've watched you develop yourself and grow your channel over that time. (I'm a grandma, 65 years old and have experience watching young people grow and develop themselves 😉) It's been a pleasure following you in your journey. I've loved engaging with you in your curiosity and love of learning. I especially enjoyed your foray into Orthodox Christianity. I too developed an interest at that time and was seriously considering embracing that particular mode of faith. I guess I'm a bit of theology nerd too, I love discussing the scriptures in depth. Anyway, Justin, to quote the book of Proverbs, "a man's gift makes room for him" . I have a feeling that your God-given passion for teaching and love of the scriptures will open many doors for you to walk through and God will fill your life in a way and that you weren't expecting. 💗

[@GospelSimplicity]

Thank you so much for this beautiful comment, Elizabeth.

[@michelnarvaez2615]

It seems to me that most people that get a theology degree do better in life, with or without a ministry, than people that go to regular universities and colleges and leave with unrealistic expectations. Go ahead and get your theology degree. I have a degree in journalism and it's done wonders for me, but if I could go back in time and do something different, I'd choose theology in a second.

[@ForneverstarOfficial]

Currently getting my bachelors in theology in a smaller seminary but not really as a job getter, just so i can study my faith. Im getting an associates in I.T Project mangement for my career.

[@thewalktochrist8192]

Hey Gospel Simplicity could you please let me know what books you had to read while in seminary please. I would love to read them 😊

[@sugarloaf10]

My husband has a ministry degree in music. He has never made a living doing that, although he has worked in various churches throughout the last 15 years. He makes a living now doing something else that is completely self taught and probably makes 3x what he could ever make in the church.

[@GospelSimplicity]

I can relate to that!

[@delvaassante5699]

God put you on the path that not only sets your soul on fire, but lights up the souls of so many through your channel. Keep your faith in the Lord. He led you to study theology, and you are currently where you are meant to be. Make no mistake, God has more in mind for you…Who knows where your path will lead you and others in the future? ☺️😊

[@GospelSimplicity]

Thank you so much, Delva

[@GospelTruthTeachings]

For most people to do a theology degree to get a well paid job is generally not a great idea, unless you are at the top of academic performance. To do this degree as a foundation for further studies or for self inspection and spiritual understanding then it is almost a ‘must do’. But do not incur huge debts or forsake your family to do it. Our senior pastor did 3 business degrees and developed a business profession before embarking on a doctor of divinity. This ensured family financial security and provided the path to advanced religious study.

[@GospelSimplicity]

Well said

[@The_way777]

I wish that i could learn more about the practical things concerning the word

[@childpeanut5095]

Hmu ;)

[@Alexei2539]

If you did become a doctor, I bet you would have a good bedside manner. You communicate well and are sensitive to the people you talk with.

[@lukasbeier8338]

I’m currently working toward a theology degree but also am majoring in Spanish and Accounting and I’m allowing myself flexibility in my future

[@GospelSimplicity]

That sounds busy!

[@lukasbeier8338]

@@GospelSimplicity I know, I made it through my first semester with a 4.0 but it didn’t feel too overwhelming to me

[@lunchandlearn]

I’ve been a doctor for 15 years and I’m thinking about pursuing a theology degree….

[@mosesmelo5535]

Well spoken Sir

[@donovanyahya2818]

got my BS in Mechanical Engineering. Then fell in love with Jesus to the point that I went to Fuller Seminary and got MA in Christian Leadership, then PhD in Intercultural Education from Biola U (which you mentioned in the video). Today I work in auto parts company while still serving at my church as an elder / youth teacher. Having mechanical engineering degree makes it easier for me to understand automotive technology, relevant to running the business, while a theology degree makes me think with a biblical worldview on all aspects of life. So I'd say that all my degrees has been worthwhile and applicable in my work and ministry.

[@Silver_Sun5]

Ha, a theology nerd. I love it. Totally me!

[@soldierofdivinity3245]

A degree in Theology is only worth it, if it leads us to the fullness of “The Truth”. Other than that, it was a waste of time. Should of went to the “Saint Paul Center” in Steubenville, and studied under: Scott Hahns. All our time, talent and treasure belongs to God, given to you through grace! To glorify Him with. God Bless! ❤🙏

[@soldierofdivinity3245]

@@baygol_doegh77 Hi friend, then you must be aware of the seven letters from St. Ignatius, that he wrote to the seven churches: around 107 ad. While on the way to be martyred at the coliseum. Wherever you find the Catholic Church there you will find the Bishop of Rome. Jesus Christ Divinely established His One! True! Holy! “Catholic” Apostolic Church! God Bless!

[@soldierofdivinity3245]

@@baygol_doegh77 I believe the differences between Paul and Peter are very clear in scripture. It was Peter who was given the keys to the kingdom of Heaven on Earth from Christ. Mathew 16. It was Peter; that Jesus Christ built His church upon, based on Peters confession, that Jesus was the Christ, the Son of the living God. It was St. Peter who was given the power to lose and bind on earth. Whenever St. Paul had a misunderstanding he would take it to St. Peter, who was the first Pope? Jesus said: if your brother sins against you, then go to him in private and testify to the truth. And if he doesn’t listen to you, then bring another brother to bear witness to The Truth, and if he doesn’t listen to him. Then take him to the church. The pillar and bulwark of the truth. St. Paul was never handed the keys to the Kingdom of heaven on Earth. Jesus Christ; never build His church on the bones of St. Paul. St. Paul’s bones are not buried 40 feet below the altar of St. Peter’s in the Vatican? How about Pope St. Clement; the fourth Catholic Pope in direct succession of St. Peter, whose found inside sacred scripture? How about the unbroken chain of Catholic Popes from the time of St. Peter all the way down to Pope Francis? I was a Superintendent in Commercial Construction. It only stands to reason, if I was leaving my post, liken to Jesus Christ, I would hand over the responsibility to one qualified person to take my place. I wouldn’t hand it over to all those inside the entire company. I love the churches apostolic Tradition. I love the Latin mass. Orthodoxy is a schism and has no allegiance to The Bishop of Rome. Both Ignatius and Polycarp were students of St. John the Evangelist. I believe St. Ignatius got this one right. It’s just to blatantly obvious to believe otherwise. There’s to much evidence for the succession of Popes, directly down from Jesus Christ, to the present day. Now if you were to ask me about what I think of Pope Francis; I would say; that Pope Francis is in apostasy with some of the teachings of Jesus Christ and His Holy Catholic Church. Is Pope Francis the ape of Jesus Christ. Is he the false prophet? Is he a Judas Priest? I don’t really know, maybe he is. But nevertheless, just like it was with Judas, Francis was also chosen by God for this time. One thing I’m sure of. We must never leave Peter because of Judas. God Bless! 🙏

[@George-ur8ow]

@@baygol_doegh77 You are wiping the floor with this guy in the comments.

[@jimnewl]

@@baygol_doegh77 "You cannot assume that the characteristics of the keys given to Peter to unify the church are the same as primacy. It could be unity of bishops rather than one bishop." If the keys signify unity among the bishops, then they also necessarily signify the primacy of one, since a multitude can only be unified under a common principle. In this case, where the subject is supernatural truth, the common principle is the immutable and infallible teaching of the Holy Spirit; and since the problem is how we are to know which among competing claims to supernatural inspiration is the true teaching of the Spirit, a single vessel--a single office, vested in a single bishop--has been divinely ordained for that purpose by Our Lord, Jesus Christ. As for your Trinity argument, it seems rather silly to suppose that by asserting the primacy of Peter we are denying the ability of anyone else to speak the truth. The fact that John drank at the fountain of the Lord's breast in no way obviates the fact that Peter, if John had spoken falsely, possessed the authority (from a certain point in time onward) to correct him. The fact, though, is that John did not speak falsely.

[@soldierofdivinity3245]

@@baygol_doegh77 it could not be a unity of bishops that received the keys? The twelve apostles were all bishops. Only one! Bishop! Peter! The Bishop of Rome received the revelation from God The Father that Jesus Christ was the messiah, the Son of the living God. All the rest could not say who Christ was. This is why Peter is singled out as the rock on which Jesus Christ will built His Church. Believe whatever you want. Nice editorial by the way. God Bless!

[@athanasiusofalexandria4304]

I got two degrees in history. I often wonder if those were worth it. I wanted to teach too… The second one with an emphasis on European intellectual thought (philosophy.). I have a job that is not related any of they. But the graduate degree taught me how to think. This in turn made me think about my theology more critically, which in turn pushed me to read tons of theology books and listen to tons of theologians of all stripes who are Much smarter than me which in turn led me to Orthodoxy. Hmm….

[@GospelSimplicity]

What a journey! I sense we would have some fun conversations

[@athanasiusofalexandria4304]

@@GospelSimplicity No doubt.

[@nrtnrt6676]

Yes if you could list the books you read that would be great.

[@jamesgossweiler1349]

When I was little kid, my parents took me to a museum in NYC. I heard them describe some historical figure as a "Renaissance Man." They defined one as someone who has education in disparate fields and thus can reflect on matters from many angles. I decided to become one. I got a BS biology, a BS geology, and an MDiv. Hence, I know something about life, the planet, and God. You friend, are a Renaissance Man.

[@GospelSimplicity]

Next time someone asks me why I'm doing a Master's in Liberal Arts, I'll tell them I'm working to complete my quest of becoming a true Renaissance Man

[@noah7477]

9:25 "Allows them to provide for their families and eat"

[@australopithecusafarensis8927]

Austin! When is the conversion update coming? That’s what I’m looking for 😅

[@edwingonzalez4210]

Can you please provide the books you read while studying theology. I can’t go to school for it but if I get the chance of going in a future, I definitely will.

[@someperson9536]

There are those who teach the Bible at a children's Sunday School. Taking some classes at a Bible college or seminary would be helpful, but it would not be necessary to earn a degree.

[@vhcenzo]

i would like to know which books you read while studying. Could you tell me? Thanks for the video

[@albanyreadshalleluyahscrip9946]

I'm thinking about a theology degree

[@lizledbitter6711]

Nearly any structured field of study is "worth it" even if "all" it provides is a disciplined/focused approach to the world including what you find yourself having to do to "Put Bread on the Table".

[@philipjones369]

My degree has taken 75 years i must join you in saying that I am definitely a NERD.

[@drewblanche]

Can you plz list the books 📖 you read during your course. I want to become a priest but don’t know how I can do it without going to a school. I was trying to get ordained online. Is there a way to do this without being at a college? Can you take theology online? I never graduated high school. 9th grade is as far as I got but I have a strong calling to be a priest/exorcist my whole life. Thanks for your help brother. ❤

[@princeamankwa]

Thank you for your good work sir. Please I want you to send me the books🙏 so that I will learn.

[@rodikyriakou4984]

Thank you.🙏

[@billyhooks99]

I am a 65 year old that is fascinated by theology. I wish this video had been around when I was in my forties coming into Christianity. I am reading books about early Christians. In my journey to christ in my early 40s I was almost atheist but I joined a group that required me to have a belief in a Supreme being. So I began to search inwardly and realized that it was not that I didn't believe God existed but that I didn't believe that God was not what I had been lead to believe he was. Thanks for the video even it is a little late for me.

[@GospelSimplicity]

My pleasure! Thanks for sharing some of your story!

[@Rikusm1]

You saying that if you would be able to go back to your 40s that you would consider doing a degree in theology? I am 36 now, stable job and a family and i am strongly considering to start a degree in theology now. Purely because of the love of it and being intrigued by the word and teachings of the bible. I feel like i need to do this and dedicate myself to God in bettering my broad understanding of theology as a whole...

[@yttean98]

A degree in Theology is useful for your Education for you now and into the future. It may not have any direct application, but it builds your personal character into the future. A philosophy degree is more useful as it exposes you to more varieties of mindful education for self-development not just Christianity is in your case.

[@Farmandranchliving]

I would like the booklist. Thanks

[@GospelSimplicity]

I believe the link is in the description. If not, you can find it on gospelsimplicity.com

[@donaldshelton1720]

Thanks!

[@GospelSimplicity]

Thank you so much for the generous gift, Donald!

[@kf4zmt]

What advice would you offer to someone who wants a theology degree so that others would recognize their biblical knowledge? In other words, their motive is to garner more respect in a church setting as a teacher of the Bible.

[@GospelSimplicity]

This is a tough one. On the one hand, I think getting a degree just as a source of validation is not a great reason. However, in some cases, such as ordination, it is a requirement, even if it functions in largely the same sense (validation). I can say that having a degree does not make one inherently qualified to teach, just as not having one doesn't make one inherently unqualified. A degree is helpful. A degree is not everything.

[@guilhermedelcampo4832]

Hello, I am thinking about studying theology to be a teacher. Do you recommend going to US? Do you know any good seminaries in Europe?

[@grantkauahijr.1647]

Hey brother! I would love it if you could please please please send me the list of books! How can I reach you? Thank you!

[@johnpaultuma6631]

Would really like to know the books you read in your undergraduate program! Please share the names of the books brother!

[@GospelSimplicity]

If you go to my website, you can find a full list!

[@Bl_Radio]

All of thise things are valid, but i also see that as an idictment of what we consider "pastoring" in the Western Church. Pastoral staffs generally need better theological roots than they tend to have. M.Div's are treated as a "trade" and Theology tends to be treated as "extra" and "interesting."

[@natehines127]

You persuaded me not to get one 😞

[@jeremiahong248]

It will be worth it if one day you go the path of Cameron Bertuzzi 😉

[@australopithecusafarensis8927]

It’s coming, I expect it any day

[@bellanitocortez-rodriguez9235]

😉

[@mmbtalk]

I pray that he doesn't one day submit to some man-centred institution that has every zeal to promote their developed traditions instead of the truth that rests in Christ as the only way, the truth, mediator, source of peace and rest!

[@andreaurelius45]

I am always unimpressed by scholarship. I read a lot. But mostly I find that scholastic attempts at assuming spiritual authority to be exhausting and misleading. Sproul, and the like, just muddy the water. And I would rather not have to swim in such.

[@toddvoss52]

I noticed the drop in content since you got your job. That is the way it SHOULD be. You have a couple vocations now -your marriage, your job and this channel. Plus your own prayer life. At this stage of your life with your first post grad job, you should be putting most of your non-family time into becoming proficient at your job. As time goes on, you will be able to shift a bit but it will take intentionality. Because if you are good at your job, they will throw more and more to you (as is only natural ). Try to strike that balance. It won't be easy but with God's help and a balanced spiritual life you will get there.

[@GospelSimplicity]

Thank you for this Todd. It's not easy prioritizing multiple things, but I'm doing my best. You hit the nail on the head too. I have a responsibility to my vocation as a husband, and part of that involves working hard at my job. That does limit time I can spend on KZbin, but I feel at peace with my current priorities. KZbin is a great blessing, and I intend to steward the influence I've been given well, but ultimately, in this season of life, it is not my number one priority. It means a lot that you (and hopefully others) can appreciate that

[@toddvoss52]

@@GospelSimplicity Thanks Austin. I have confidence you will strike that balance. And don’t forget to enjoy the little things!

[@mackinm00se]

If you don’t go to Harvard, Yale, Cambridge, USC, Norte Dame, or MAYBE Fuller, you’re not going to teach. That’s where the networking exists. It sucks, but there you have it.

[@GospelSimplicity]

Surprised to see Fuller in this list. I would've replaced it with St. Andrew's or Oxford.

[@haydongonzalez-dyer2727]

Love it

[@annamccormick6864]

I’m currently in year 2 of a 5 year theology degree (part time, UK)… should I really watch this video?!? 😬

[@GospelSimplicity]

Haha, watch it at your own risk!

[@praveenkumar-yo1xg]

How much are you paying the fees?

[@DavidVela-o1k]

Do you guys know where i can get a fake one?

[@onlyhispresenceohp2607]

Hmmm….First of All - You must Know What God is (His Plans)saying about your Life!! No matter what- All that Sounds Good if you have NOT Prayed and asked God: His Pathway will not fail you- 1)What is your Purpose/Vision that God has spoken to you Directly- 2) Next, Pray for His guidance on what steps- 3) Everything Does NOT always make sense!!

[@jeremiahong248]

Define "worth" ?😄 and how is it measured.

[@isaiaguilar6377]

You got to understand that having a theology degree gives you the right to open your mouth 👄 on the Bible

[@lelandlarochelle312]

Just for the record, if any Christian is going into get a Theology degree and one of your primary goals is to have arguments against other denominations of Christianity or the Catholic Church.. you should not get a degree - for that realm of thought your only opponent should be Islam..

[@paulyd2520]

Perhaps you've heard this story before, but I was so curious about the foundations of Christianity and my faith that I became obsessed with the study of religion and ended up getting my BA in Religion (Comparative Religious Studies with an emphasis on Christianity,) at a small, private school. I graduated back in 2010 and instead of gaining a greater appreciation of my faith or a deepening of it I ended up losing whatever faith I had; with around $42,000 in debt and spiritually bankrupt from the experience. I've done nothing with my degree since and have been bitter to the point of regretting my decision to go into higher education, entirely. I understand that this probably isn't the norm, but it was my experience.

[@DavidVela-o1k]

Well not my looks

[@jeremiahong248]

Since you were accepted into medicine, I supposed you have to thank God you don't have a Tiger Mum. Otherwise, most likely it would be Dr Austin Suggs we are addressing.

[@GospelSimplicity]

Haha, my parents weren't thrilled, but they were supportive in the end. They're the best

[@Kraziihype]

can u mail me the books?

[@davidc4408]

No

[@Ampwich]

My main reasoning is that I want to find a wife 😂 And have the "college experience."

[@chikkipop]

It's a degree in nothing. What a waste.

[@georgeheitmanis3377]

You need to pursue a PhD in theology.

[@GospelSimplicity]

I'd love to, but the time and money sacrifices are difficult for me to justify currently

[@georgeheitmanis3377]

@@GospelSimplicity look into Sacred Heart Major Seminary. They have a MA in theology that has an online option.

[@xavierpaquin]

Wash your hair

[@Anx.iD444]

Bro who cares. you probably don't even wipe well

[@diegobarragan4904]

Well if you are still a Protestant afterwards it might be a waste…

[@athanasiusofalexandria4304]

Yeah I agree, or a Roman Catholic, Just Kidding…mostly. 😊 But meant in fun.

[@diegobarragan4904]

@@athanasiusofalexandria4304 I agree, I’m Orthodox too.

[@australopithecusafarensis8927]

@@diegobarragan4904 there’s essentially no difference between Orthodoxy and Catholicism

[@diegobarragan4904]

@@australopithecusafarensis8927 that’s a ridiculous statement to make.

[@MouseCheese2010]

@@diegobarragan4904 from a Protestant point of view the differences are almost negligible. For example, the immaculate conception. Orthodox make a big deal about it yet they believe Mary was sinless her entire life. To the Protestant, that’s a much bigger concern than whether she was born with “original sin” or not. Some Protestants don’t even believe in ancestral/original sin as understood by Orthodox and Catholics. Regarding the essence vs energies distinction. To the average Protestant, who cares! Yes Orthodox reject the Papacy but still believe in Apostolic succession and have a priests. Orthodox believe in Sacred Tradition and reject Sola Scriptura. Orthodox pray to the Saints and use images in their worship. Orthodox make a big deal about icons vs statues; but again, to the Protestant, who cares, you’re bowing to an image! Of course Orthodox not only believe in the real presence, but more importantly view the Divine Liturgy as a sacrifice on the altar So yeah, Catholics and Orthodox are pretty much identical when it comes to doctrines important to Protestants.