Gossen Ultra, 121GW and Brymen BM869s stability

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joe smith

joe smith

Күн бұрын

500mV source from Fluke 731B reference. No warmup allowed. Just showing how unstable the EEVBLOG 121GW is compared with the other two meters.
For context, please see the following thread on EEVBLOG:
www.eevblog.co...

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@WilliamHinojosa
@WilliamHinojosa Жыл бұрын
Maybe the audio is bad, I could not hear the explanation or comments from the author.
@joesmith-je3tq
@joesmith-je3tq Жыл бұрын
Check the description for a link which provides the context.
@Chris_Grossman
@Chris_Grossman Жыл бұрын
I just tried this using my PDVSII mini as a source. My Bryman BM869s showed ±2 1µV digits in the 500,000 count mode. My 121GW showed ±1 10µV digit. Both of these results are good. Did your stress testing of the 121GW cause the added noise on yours? You did not test for that, you were only looking for hard failures.
@joesmith-je3tq
@joesmith-je3tq Жыл бұрын
If you read the few posts in the thread linked in the description, there was no destructive tests ran on this meter. I had bought two. One to test, the other to keep as a reference. The one I tested was damaged beyond repair.
@Chris_Grossman
@Chris_Grossman Жыл бұрын
@@joesmith-je3tq I apologize for not recalling the details of your 121GW tests. It was many months ago I watched them. I made a short video and published it my KZbin page showing my test of the BM869s & 121GW. My 121GW is quiet and stable. Since we each only have one working version of the meter it is impossible to say if your experience or mine is more typical. However your test does show that the 121GW you have is noisy.
@sepertude
@sepertude 7 ай бұрын
Can you test Hioki meters for stability?
@Qwerty-cb1ti
@Qwerty-cb1ti 10 ай бұрын
by the way, it is not a Gossen multimeter but a Metrawatt multimeter. Gossen makes hi-end power supplies and Lloyds certified instruments for ships and lighting measuring stuff. Metrawatt is the one who specializes in quality multimeters.
@joesmith-je3tq
@joesmith-je3tq 10 ай бұрын
Are we talking about the Gossen meter I tested some time ago that is clearly labeled Gossen Metrawatt on the face?
@Qwerty-cb1ti
@Qwerty-cb1ti 10 ай бұрын
@@joesmith-je3tq yes exactly. Gossen-Metrawatt is the consortium, actually the swiiss Camille-Bauer is also part of it.But these are three different firms and Metrawatt is the one that makes the multimeters.
@hobonickel840
@hobonickel840 10 ай бұрын
Why are some of these so hard to find for sale?
@rcrossrd
@rcrossrd Жыл бұрын
Since you are very acquainted with UEI products by now, any chance you would do your robustnes test on one of their dual display clamps? Perhaps DL369/389 or DL489? The Dual display is very useful for HVAC applications for viewing current and other parameter simultaneously, so it would be interesting to see how they stack up to the rest of the field robustness wise.
@jstro-hobbytech
@jstro-hobbytech Жыл бұрын
I know you don't like to brag but I'd like to know your story and work history and some of the big projects and such you've worked on. I've seen videos where you show some amazing prototypes you've built but I'm a big fan and I'd like to see some of the other things you've worked on and how you got your start and such. If you don't mind
@joesmith-je3tq
@joesmith-je3tq Жыл бұрын
I did make one video where I told a couple of early stories and thought about making a few more like that.
@iCutWaffles
@iCutWaffles 7 ай бұрын
What kind of fluke would.you recommend ?
@Nazmi_PWM.C
@Nazmi_PWM.C Жыл бұрын
HI Joe. Measure the shunt resistance voltage (current sensor) in AC millivolt position with BM869s. you will get wrong result.
@joesmith-je3tq
@joesmith-je3tq Жыл бұрын
All meters in all functions will give wrong results. The question is how wrong. As long as it meets the manufactures specs, no problem.
@joesmith-je3tq
@joesmith-je3tq Жыл бұрын
View the following post: www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/saving-yet-another-fluke-189/msg5049970/#msg5049970
@FryChicken
@FryChicken 6 ай бұрын
the video didn't show, and you didn't mention, the Gossen multimeter model
@joesmith-je3tq
@joesmith-je3tq 6 ай бұрын
Ultra, now known as Prime after I showed all of it's problems.
@FryChicken
@FryChicken 6 ай бұрын
@@joesmith-je3tq You were pretty obsessed about the lack of shielding, but your reviews didn't go into much else. In this video, the Gossen looks like it's the most stable
@hightttech
@hightttech Жыл бұрын
I'm ready for BM 869S vs HP 34401A. I always thought that 500,000 count feature was a gimmick, but maybe not?? Joe is da DMM man 👍
@FISHERMAN33RUS
@FISHERMAN33RUS Жыл бұрын
Bm 869 s only few micro Volts deviations not bad, how fluke 289 or some high end agilent performs in same situation interesting? A fought about buying 121, but I guess it is not good idea. Bm s only crest function (max/min) behaves strange, over functions for ordinary user works well as for me.
@joesmith-je3tq
@joesmith-je3tq Жыл бұрын
I don't own the 289 and the high end Keysight meter I bought for testing was damaged beyond repair. That's 2 for 2 on Keysight.
@a_man9329
@a_man9329 Жыл бұрын
@@joesmith-je3tq think BM need in recalibration (its not a problem 4 u). GM 1 of my favorite MM. 121GW also useable in outdoor progects such as prechecking something or testing HV light-diods (its not a precise MM). In pair with a cheap clamp adapter 121GW also can mesure inrush current.
@blueturkey
@blueturkey Жыл бұрын
The Gossen is like $1000
@Scorry
@Scorry Жыл бұрын
Wow. Unpleasantly noisy.
@thecoffeeblog
@thecoffeeblog Жыл бұрын
What meters are you using?
@joesmith-je3tq
@joesmith-je3tq Жыл бұрын
In the description, there is a link that provides context if you are interested.
@Masirah1
@Masirah1 Жыл бұрын
The first one is not counting. The two after are counting measurements points
@joesmith-je3tq
@joesmith-je3tq Жыл бұрын
lol. The Gossen is so stable it looks like it doing nothing.
@wktodd
@wktodd Жыл бұрын
Hum ? Or noise
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