The Identity Of The ANCIENT HERO?! - Part 2

The Ancient Hero who fought Calamity Ganon 10,000 years ago might have belonged to the mysterious race called the "Lomei" but I think there's something more to this assumption...let's find out what it is!
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[@chickbowdrie4750]

When Ganon was sealed underground, we know that Calamity Ganon had to have come out of him and would possibly roam the Depths. This would explain why the spirit of Link has to be reincarnated into a race that was dealing with that Calamity. This Link could have risen to the surface and both he and the princess would have brought the other races together to seal him away.

[@utsuroid]

Love this theory. And what if, the lomei found the master sword in the depths, being the ancient hero the one who found it? Knowing its part of a prophecy and then defeating the calamity, the lomei/zonai now can live in the surface because of their services to the kingdom.

[@UnitSilver78]

Maybe that’s why they stayed in the mazes as it could keep calamity ganon at bay as he would get stuck and give up in the maze

[@chickbowdrie4750]

@@UnitSilver78 it's all coming together

[@katnguyen9746]

Reverse LBW

[@marcel-pb2ul]

Ganondorf from TotK has NOTHING to do with Calamity Ganon

[@Gyashonav]

This is certainly getting somewhere interesting! Something I want to say though is that the ancient hero we see isn't the same as how he looked when he was alive. The aspect morphs to fit Link's body so some things might be off about him. Also, it's very interesting how we get the armor too. If the shrines of exercism were made before even Zelda got to the past then the aspect shouldn't be given in the way it was. Unless, someone of particular knowledge of the inner workings of those shrine came in and added a few lines and maybe a puzzle beforehand (maybe not with the puzzle though) and went to the still active, but soon to be abandoned great skyland to place that there.

[@josephmorse3089]

Mineru sounds like a good candidate for that, or someone taught by Mineru

[@Enjoyer.762]

The Ancient Hero depicted in the Tapestry still looks more like Hylian vs the Ancient Hero Aspect animal-like features. TOTK is basically a retcon.

[@wert556]

"Bull" where have I heard of it...... *gasp* the bull statues from the zonai ruins, you might be on the something. They might be bulls

[@VerdeMorte]

but what do they hit?

[@eduardoantoniomartinezmoli8191]

Maybe is a race of werewolves? That may be related to link relation with that animal, since OOT link and TP have wolves forms in a spiritual level

[@robertoneill589]

while the exact animal spiritually connected to any of the heroes does channge from link to link, like the hero of legend is connected to rabbits for example, i do like the idea of botw link being on the same spiritual level of like a jackal or something

[@pato_el_pato5540]

Basically a Aztec Minotaur… I didn’t know that needed that

[@utsuroid]

I love this. What if the depths zonai, the Lomei, are the later zonai that lived in Faron? Possibly around the time of the first great calamity. Thats why hylians saw them as barbarians, and look at the horns of the barbarian armor. Red hair too. I have another theory about the lomei being Hard miners, mining so deep that they literally found the Master Sword in the depths, but that implies that the zonai past happens after all the timelines specially adult hero timeline.

[@Methodius-and-Cyril]

MOGMA!!!

[@IONATVS]

yeah, the central statues always screamed “mogma” to me. no clue if they have any relation to the lomei, tho

[@tracegold7431]

Because of the tablets Josha collected depicting them following a Zonai (Rauru?), I always imagined the Lomei had a sort of symbiotic relationship with the Zonai. Maybe they would excavate Zonaite for them in exchange for Zonai tech?

[@yugotuber]

Great theory about the Lomei! Maybe they are a tribe of the Wild half human hilf beast. still I believe it has some connection to Link‘s beast hero spirit. Remember Twilight Princess were Midna/ the Twili have a prophecy about the ancient hero to appear as a Wolf 🐺 with blue eyes? 😊

[@UselessGoddess378]

There's also a fairly widespread theory that the Zonai became the Twili because of similar design elements between the races.

[@baltakatei]

Hylians are not H. sapiens. They're just written to look like us because we're supposed to empathize with Link. If Nintendo wanted us to empathize with a Bokoblin, then all the Bokoblins would look like us and Hylians would look like “beasts”.

[@yugotuber]

@@baltakatei so? What do you want to point out with this? Please explain me more. For example: The Elfs in LotR are also not h.sapiens but they are compatible enough genetically to make children together. So they are in a way human, too.

[@KMac52-pe3yr]

I haven’t watched part one but this actually would make a lot of sense since the ancient hero’s aspect is different from a normal zonal. You could also look back to things in the Faron region maybe🤷

[@Zeeboklown]

That's wat always bothered me about the AH being a half zonai, is the feet.. Kong rauru had little human feet, which honestly looked kinda weird to me.. but yah, NO race has digigrade feet like that in the zelda-verse..

[@TeriasModFaldom]

I always liked the idea that the Hero was a Zonai/Hylian. Perhaps directly descended from Raru and his wife

[@MASTERLinkYT96]

Then the hero would be related to Zelda

[@agentdopkant]

It's also possible that this "hero" is the idea of link that zelda was selling to the various factions to get them to unite to fight Gannon. None of them had any idea of what he looked like and zelda would probably just give an exaggerated and romanticized version while leaving out details you wouldn't think to add like him having bond hair instead of "hair that radiates in the sunlight like a bacon of hope" or even just not being covered in fur

[@marqueshaynes1839]

Thumbs up for the Bacon of hope.

[@carotclan148]

The mining gear helmet looks _much_ more like an ant to me.

[@Hero_Of_Time241]

To me it honestly kinda looks like an Enclave elmet from fallout

[@Levacque]

I agree, though I think it might just be the goggle lenses giving me insectile vibes.

[@oniswdbs]

I guess we know what happened to the mole people from skyward sword

[@CellotasticallyYours]

This explains explains why in BotW, the Zonai are often credited for the ruins in the Faron region but aligning them with the Lomei makes more sense! I never considered the Lomei could be the sub species, and the color scheme in the tapestry matches the aspect too!

[@greglynas52]

I’m pretty sure that the descendants of Rauru and Sonia may have been similar looking, and eventually one of them may have married and had a kid with a gerudo, explaining the red hair, no reason for the tail tho, that’s a wildcard as no race we know has a tail like that.

[@M_Dutch97]

Lynels

[@GenMars]

minish

[@wert556]

Question those mining equipments tho, they dont look very comfy to wear. Chains and light and metal all around, i kinda have a feeling they were serving someone. What i mean by that is possibly...... slavery...? Mining Zonaite for the Zonai. Its been on my mind because ima be honest when I was using the mining equipment while mining Zonaite, I felt a disturbance like im being forced to work or be punished. Idk it's just my theory. Kinda takes a dark turn

[@GenMars]

or they were working with the only materials they had

[@Stormrunner1981]

FTR. IrlRL back before modern tech - in places everyday citizens mined - they would often wear chains to hear each other and if they ran. Aka if there was danger they would know ahead of time because of the rattling

[@GenMars]

@@Stormrunner1981 makes sense

[@UselessGoddess378]

It gave me that vibe too! What if the majority of the Zonai were oppressive enslavers towards the "lesser" ground races (esp. Hylians) whereas Rauru treated them as equals, somewhat dissenting against his species's superiority complex, and that's why they accepted him as King after the other Zonai fucked off to who knows where (or died...) We know Zonai have no problem with forced labor (constructs, performing their duties endlessly, Rauru even says it kind of freaks him out on the GSI so he, at least, evidently has a problem with it... even if the other Zonai probably didn't... Or it's possible he led the Hylians in a revolt and they accepted him as King? It's far-fetched, but damn, would it make for a great ao3 fic) but evidently SOMEONE had to mine the zonaite to make the constructs before the constructs began mining for themselves...

[@Levacque]

Disagree. Think of it this way: the reason why chains are a big punk aesthetic is that some of the most hardcore, homeless, and roaming punks would do a ton of train-hopping and and they needed something to secure themselves to the outside of a moving car, so they added chains to their coats and pants. That's what we're dealing with here, I assume - miners lashing themselves to the side of Zonai vehicles while traveling to and from mining sites.

[@UltraTagProductions]

Why do the statues look like they're philangiling their phidadals

[@Subatomic625]

I swear I learn these cool little details about botw and totk every single day

[@MarioMastar]

The details and secrets and lore hidden in the game is what really will keep people coming back until Nomoura figures out what he wants to do for the next Zelda. it's clever on his part, cause I honestly want to believe these details are very akin to like writing a real life religious text, clues that can lead to a conclusion without definitive answers. and it's kind of up to us fans to put the pieces together and come to our own conclusions.

[@braydenmaine4818]

Those statues look like the Mogma from Skyward Sword.

[@Mcl_Blue]

Gossip Geist reigniting my interest in Zelda, one video at a time.

[@ListlessWither]

Really like where you're going with this. Bull mostly fits but I think would make more sense if its their motif since if the hero, mining gear and statues are related a defining aspect was not them having horns naturally based on the evidence. Also a fair thing to point out is the overall carnivorous beast nature of the hero with full on paws and claws (the fact they aren't retracted may lean more canid) a lion like tail and a dog like muzzle of course there are plenty of strange things still and hope to see what you have in store for us next!

[@undeadgentalmen]

True and given appearance, the Lomei would have subterrain qualities such as the large eyes to see in the dark and with less fur and more mole like skin. Including if the Zonai were mining for hundreds of years some physical appearance may change in the new depths environment.

[@Levacque]

Good one, first time I've heard such complex speculation about Lomei. PS the mining pants are absolutely incredible, they look like harem pants but glow, so they'd be the absolute perfect rave wear 😅

[@jockson7574]

I think the lomei are actually a separate tribe who wore the barbarian armor and came to hyrule way before the Zonai. I think they use red technology and despite their beast and barbaric like appearance, they’re friendly. I do hope we get a TOTK sequel where the lomei and ancient hero are revealed to be connected and that we could finally go beyond hyrule

[@Godongo]

I'm pretty sure they confirmed that they won't be making another sequel to the game

[@jockson7574]

@@Godongo they’ll probably will change their mind

[@Godongo]

@@jockson7574 Well, I believe their reason for stating that is because they ran out of ideas for this time era. With that being said and the reception of TOTK, I don't think they'll change their minds on it. HOWEVER! I have heard speculation that the next Hyrule Warriors game will be TOTK based which would be cool and could do what you hope the sequel could do. Additionally, there could possibly be DLC for TOTK at some point or a bundle in the future if the they put TOTK on a new Nintendo console. Also, there are possibilities that it could get covered in a game not being a sequel to TOTK. For example, OOT Link was shown to have lived the rest of his life being a knight of Hyrule. That was shown in TP, So you may still get what you want. I just don't think they'll make BOTW a trilogy.

[@jockson7574]

@@Godongo yes I believe that we could an age of calamity sequel based on the upheaval in the present and imprisoning war in the past. Maybe it could still be Terrako or some baby construct that involves time travel. And yes I could see a TOTK free update for the switch or they make a DX version for the switch 2 with new additional content. As much as I’d want beyond hyrule in a totk Dx I think it would be saved for a sequel cause they’ve hinted it with yona, master kohga, and the Zonai shrines. I also would want a BOTW DX with new content for the switch 2 as there are rumors for a BOTW remastered and new content would be legendary. I have a whole story for a totk sequel if you wanna hear it. Plus we need a game based on red and age of calamity doesn’t count because malice hurts link.

[@Godongo]

@@jockson7574 What would they add in the new game though? Like, if it was your game, what would you do? All in genuine curiosity since I like hearing how others would like to see a game designed. It's usually very interesting and cool. I personally am ready to move on from this timeline, but I'm glad BOTW had a sequel. It was a bit too similar to BOTW for me, but I still love TOTK.

[@SSlash]

Its insane too that we'll never even get a follow up on this or answers of any sort, it almost screams of cut content or something though, like why did that one specific design on the mural get an outfit and its the final one no less? It's almost as if that person is just the actual original very first Link or something, that he wasn't first a hylian but instead one of these, and through time and bloodlines the one that would be reincarnated or chosen or what have you became hylian instead, much how like Rauru was with Sonia and that seemingly went on to be Zelda's bloodline?

[@dogkingdance7287]

whenever I hear lomei, I think back the the sound lo... lo, lo, lorule

[@stuffz1757]

If that's the case then the Lomei would exist during the 10K era, and thus the labyrinths were probably also built during that era. Meaning the Phantom Ganon armor was probably also placed there during that era.

[@LadySora93]

The mining gear looks like a bug, an ant or something. But nothing like a minotaur.

[@Watcher-xr9su]

I love where you’re going with these shorts! Glad I just subscribed ❤. I gotta say though, what if he is a result of magic. The “perfect being”?

[@everxalicex]

I thought the mining stuff was based on the Mogmas

[@dazzlemasseur]

I think thats pretty plausible. Maybe one day we'll see them, the maze creator race.

[@Virtual_Maid_Miyu_Full_Menu]

I appreciate these lore shorts 😊

[@Kevinblue035]

this could tie in to ganondorf always being associated with boar, maybe their way of connecting the original boar-demon ganon to ganondorf is having the ancient demon be an ancient lomei king, maybe an ancestor of ganondorf

[@sabahnpl]

That statue rather reminds me of those diggers in skyward sword around the earth temple.

[@danielbaines9115]

Through our heaven and earth, ahh statue

[@Th3ba1r0n]

Oh that is so cool :D I hope the makers of Zelda make a game where you play as a whole new race. OMG now I want to see this as a game. Probably have Gannondorf as the classic blue pig monster in an underground world where the lomai never see the outside.

[@TheBBQify]

What about the fact that each Labyrinth represents one piece of the Triforce? The text that comes up when you beat them refers to the animal corresponding to their respective piece: Boar for power, Wolf for courage, and Owl for wisdom. So I think that the Goddesses were the ones who actually made the labyrinths, and entrusted the Lomei to protect them. Although I'm not sure how they obtained Phantom Ganon's armor from OoT

[@sk8legendz]

I think it's a Hylian Zonai hybrid. and that's why Link always ends up attracting Zora princess

[@smileytrashbag9561]

i once saw a theory, i forgot who made it, that the ancient hero was some kind of weird fusion of a zonai, gerudo, and maybe hylian (it's been a good while since i've watched the theory so i dont remember everything exactly) but tldr it was something along the lines of: rauru's body had started to decay and eventually disconnected from his arm, so in a gamble to bring some facet of himself back to life Ganondorf pretty much took over the body which twisted it to look more humanoid but still have some zonai features crossed with gerudo. then this fusion basically had an identity crisis between the Ganondorf and rauru sides of its creation, the good in it won the "battle" and it picked up the master sword and became that figure that vaguely matches its description in the tapestry sort of becoming an "unofficial link"

[@isacfelix1278]

Kind of makes sense like instead of bringing the first best then the second best its bringing the first best of one group and the first best of another group combining both their capabilities and their knowledge

[@scifriskyxy583]

I'd like to imagine the lomei where slaves sort or used slaves. The underground seemed like it would have been a harsh place to live at id like to imagine that the link of this era was a miner when his mine was attacked by gannons dariness which began flodding the place and they managed to narrowly escape to where he met zelda/was saved by her and more or less began following her like a lost puppy,because all he knew was his slave like life underground and he saw her as well his new master a nicer one at that eventually coming to his own as the hero of hyrule

[@sewoh100]

We really need an HW:AoC2

[@Clomprr]

i wonder why the ancient hero set has a gem like shape on the head like how ganondorf did in most of the games which that couldve been a secret stone acquired by it and the race might have been a mix with the zonai and the lomei with rauru being the zonai and sonia being the lomei since the lomei was an ancient tribe and sonia has several paintings on her body like how most tribes in real life have too which could explain the odd appearance of the ancient hero

[@sarchiaponeseriale4380]

I believe he is like a dragon hybrid. The eyes of the hero resemble the one of the dragons the fur on the tail is on the same position where the dragons have it. You can also see where the secret stone was placed.

[@eternalabyss101]

My thoughts are that the next mainline botw-esque game (since technically we have echoes of wisdom coming out) will take place in the past, since botw and totk have been theorized to be spiritual remakes of zelda 1 and 2 respectfully, which means its quite possible that the next one will be a spiritual remake of link to the past, where link goes into a parallel dark world (similar to the depths) and gains the form of that similar to a rabbit or other beast

[@kaassoufflex9023]

He looks like a Zonai - hylian hybrid to me.

[@williamstoddard7828]

😊 we got rock people we got fish people, and now we got bug people

[@mythicalthings1796]

The problem with this is... Didn't the Ancient Hero happen before Rauru and Sonia were even specs in the universe? He's even older than both of them. Which means that the ruins in Faron are even older than Rauru and Sonia as well, cause we know for a fact they're even older than the upheaved ruins. The ancient princess *can't* be a descendant of Rauru and Sonia. And the Ancient Hero is likely a Zonai of Faron. Which makes sense, cause the Zonai definitely represent courage and Faron has the spring of courage as well.

[@KIngFreg42]

This works because the Lomei ruins, BOTW Zonai ruins and Typhlo ruins have a different looking dragon on their design, hence being beast zonai

[@SuperZerodragon]

I thought those statues were for the mole people from skyward sword, as we do not know what happened to them

[@Ifx-]

He looks like a zonai Mogma crossbreed

[@xandan1668]

I think the mining equipment looks more like an ant.

[@kinggold3177]

I think there are some clear characteristics that possibly link this guy to Ganondorf, the red hair, the gem socketed in the forehead. Links sleeve has some gerudo like symbols on them that match the Dusk Claymore (Ganondorfs sword) almost perfectly.

[@joaobiaziolli8415]

I like to believe that the ancient hero was a hybrid of Hyrulian and Zonai

[@KyleGK01]

Link being a decendant of a minotaur would make sense. (Based on what i see minotaurs are really strong and link being a decendant of a hylian and minotaur and then slowly just getting the looks of a hylian)

[@Resident_Insomniac_2295]

Not the Zonai set looking exactly like the ancient hero or anything 😂

[@boktai10]

Well with zonai looking kinda elk, sheep, looking I guess the lomei could be bull looking I wouldn't know I haven't played totk yet but I did botw rofl

[@AgentX_uwu]

"Hear me out guys"

[@digitalunity]

I thought the mining gear looked more like an ant

[@GrumpyTy34er]

I just assumed that the ancient princess was Zelda and that the ancient hero was Rauru's assumption on what Link looked like.

[@carlhayden3610]

Could be some version of the denizens of the twilight realm.

[@kira516]

00:25 *sonic nazo unleashed intensive*

[@kqtiekelly]

I always thought the depths set looked more like an ant than a minotaur. I can kinda see it tho.

[@selene2357]

this makes sense, considering how huge the depths are, and how much content lurks within

[@josedemuth1761]

Maybe Rauru and Sonjas child or a descendent of them while The princess might have been from a more Human descendent, no one can expect me to believe that Sonja and Raurus first born was instantly a Hylian

[@Zinkolo]

And haters said the Lore sucks HA I can't believe it took us this long to finally start talking about the underground race. It's weird how ignored everything below the surface has been online

[@0perativeX]

I'm pretty sure those statues are Mogmas (the sub-subterranean race from Skyward Sword

[@alyssamontgomery2978]

I'm pretty sure the hero was a hybrid of some kind.

[@opusmag1]

...Like Toads and Goombas?!

[@seansean792]

Lomei translating to maze, I think that means that the place is a maze, I don't think this theory holds up well. The ancient hero carries Zonai and Hylian traits, and given the time gap I'd assume that with each generation this bloodline looked more and more hylian and less and less zonai, cause it looks like a cross between the two. POTENTIALLY the red hair could be from a gerudo, which I did not consider until now given how gerudo and hylian tend to create gerudos, or they just wanted it to fully tie in eith the mural.

[@derais6162]

Hybrid Hyrulean

[@maxrogers6446]

I think they are zonal without vitamin d

[@dylanhelmbrecht8055]

I believe the ancient hero is the "missing link" (pun intended) in the bloodline of rauru and Zelda. Obviously Sonia bore his child, and it would have to be some kind of hybrid species.

[@primalfeline]

I always thought the miner’s helmet looked like an ant head lol

[@ZombieLeo94]

My guess is that the previous "Link" that fought Calamity Ganon, was not a Hylian.

[@aaronS1986]

The lore of Breath of the Wild/Tears of the Kingdom feels like a separate game altogether.

[@jessewoodall7253]

I always just thought it was a zonai/hylian hybrid

[@angelgalindo1267]

So then those statues weren’t Mogma statues? Huh… now I’m starting to wonder why they build the labyrinths on the surface of Hyrule. Is it because it’s a training ground for the ancient hero. If so, then why did it had another labyrinth both the sky and the depths? And in my theory… what if it was the Mogma AND the Lomei that build the depths structures, why they made the mines and hid various clothing treasures and weapons? And since they had various recourses of raw Zonai minerals… it would make sense they both co-exists and hide their treasures and weapons. And why Edin mountain had those statues around pointing the next hidden labyrinth and abandoned mines. It’s just my theory

[@seirramoon388]

Tbh I thought those lomei statues were just the mole people from skyward sword.

[@thebestgummybear9744]

Dang it I was gonna make a lomei video then I see this

[@def.not.daniel]

What if the ancient hero is a gerudo and lomei hybrid because he has the red hair of a gerudo but what we are assuming to be the tail, feet, and facial features of a lomei

[@dr_gizmo7354]

I assumed that the Ancient hero was a mix between Zonai and Hylian

[@BlueLugia1]

It could be a hybrid of halian and zonai

[@assassincheese0]

Half man half bull Or Half man half BOAR We're the masses made to keep the original ganon locked away Like the first game There aare 3 mazes 3 pieces of the tri force and you find armour that looks like ganon locked away in there

[@brisky__]

Hate how developers half assed the lore in this game. Like “here’s your special abilities and very few cutscenes now go fuck off and explore our sandbox”

[@benroden8312]

very underrated!

[@helpmeidontknowwhatimdoing]

I love the theory but uh when “Nazo” showed up I thought about the same thing but the “O” is replaced with an “I”

[@thomassinclair6828]

Zonai and gerudo crossbreed. The ancient hero is the crossbreed that is the 8th hero. He like all gerudo males after ganondorf is erased from history by the Gerudo.

[@thegamingkeyblade7066]

This makes me wonder. Can a version of link ever not have blonde hair or could he even not be a hylian sometimes?

[@WynnIsTired]

I thought those statues looked like mogmas honestly...

[@OneDr1pman]

I think the ancient hero is also part hylian and part gerudo

[@weeaboojones3850]

Ngl, this seems like prime BOTW 3 material 😂

[@rosiemymelody]

I really like speculating like that, but I don't think Nintendo went that far Maybe the tapestry represents a Zonai, despite the fact they're extinct This piece of information may not have been well-developed when BotW came out, and a little plothole isn't that hard to imagine when TotK released I still wish something actually cool is revealed but I highly doubt Nintendo would think this much about the tapestry I hope I'm wrong, though!

[@HumbleTeller]

The Ancient Hero's aspects kinda give me Minish vibes due to their pointed nose, tail (yes even if it's a feather), and four-toed feet. Like Nintendo took some inspiration from the Minish especially since they were a cut concept from Botw.

[@enorma29]

nintendo is trying to rouse zeldatubers with the Lomei mystery, but they will never capture lighting in a bottle like with the zonai craze between botw & totk. in fact, the fuzz would be greater now if they kept the zonai a secret in totk.

[@ranusewithimp4145]

I thought the mining armor was an ant.

[@luisfelix9529]

Cool theory

[@ElijahChapin]

What about the barbarians? In botw you can get the barbarian armor from the labyrinths right? Where did they come from?

[@zachwise476]

The ancient hero looks exactly like Ganondorf. But Nintendo will never make Ganondorf a good guy or have him be redeemable in any way