Got Kicked out of my Bible study for Promoting Polygamy

[@RobBKowalski]

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[@Zim-j1n]

It just means that ur doing something right which is what? Knowledge 🤯 🔨

[@calmaenlatormenta4811]

No one wants your garbage.

[@land_banes2639]

There is no place where polygamy is honored by God as the ideal for humans, and while there is no Old Testament command against the general practice (and I believe that is specifically for the Levirate model), it is also not commended and is shown over and over again to be very problematic. Wars continue to be fought between people today, 4000 years later, because of these family rivalries. In the New Testament, polygamy is more explicitly condemned. Paul tells us that Christian marriage is to be between one man and one woman, connects that back to Adam and Eve and the mandate, and then tells us that marriage is meant to point to the unique relationship between Jesus and his people, the Church. In the qualifications for Christian elders (1 Tim 3; Titus 1), Paul tells us that elders are to model what Christians are called to; and in both lists he mentions being the husband of one wife, literally a one-woman man.

[@terrigallagher5998]

God repeatedly called out the Israelites for their rebellion which included following the cultures around them-eg multiple wives, etc.

[@cruise2kx]

This is false, can you provide a scripture to back this up?

[@dennykeaton9701]

Multiple foreign wives. They were supposed to only have Israelite wives.

[@N8R_Quizzie]

16:20 naturally polygamous is just sexually tempted. The fruit of the Spirit includes self control. Because some people feel like they have to have multiple partners they need to be transformed by the Spirit to have self control. There's nobody who "can't do it" who do have the Spirit. 22:22 sleeping in the same bed???? Wow that is horrible.

[@kearasteger8258]

Hi Rob, I have a 19yr old daughter and a 17yr old son. I was looking up the value of abstinence and came across you years ago...I check in on you every now and then... today being one and was shocked and thrilled to hear your engaged! Congratulations!! Now Polygamy....okay I have a million thoughts swirling in my head... I'm very very confused... First, Churches are good their intention is to bring all closer to God so saying negative things about churches isn't cool..I think you could deliver your new revelation without mentioning churches....anything to draw people towards God is good, if I'm remembering correctly the church helped you along your journey and if it didn't it helps a ton steer clear of cooperating with the devil who disguises and tempts us in many ways to get as many souls to turn away from God. You are influencing many souls... the devil couldn't break you with your abstinence but maybe with what your now promoting he is?? There's nothing wrong with sticking to marriage tradition. It was working for years until societies standards lowered and morals and values went out the window, etc. There are many many world traditions and family traditions and individual traditions... that may not be necessary or could be stopped or changed but they are serving a positive purpose. Also you said yourself when you had multiple partners you felt "dirty" and became mentally, emotionally etc... bothered and empty. What makes you think your human self wouldn't go back to feeling that way if you had multiple wives?? Signing marriage licenses isn't going to change or suppress all those same feelings. Really only God knows if you're correct in what you're promoting, cause there's no human way of factually knowing. Like you said the Bible was written a long time ago, and not by American English speaking people... btw it's worth a trip to Washington DC to go through the Museum of the Bible, it will really put your thoughts on the Bible in proper perspective.... very very interesting, the best museum out there! Focusing on the importance of the condition of our souls is way way way more important then getting people to have multiple wives.... Could this be you coming full circle... not being able to commit to one person...suffering through all these years of abstinence and now coming up with a way to have your cake and eat it too by justifying multiple wives... you admit the apprehension of committing to one person for the rest of your life, when this is originally what you've been searching for and now that you reached your goal of finding a wife your changing the rules?? When you finally are going to be sexually active are you worried you're not going to have self discipline to just have one partner, since you've never proven to yourself you can. It's like an alcoholic that has stayed away from alcohol for 10 years and then meets someone who brings them confidence that they really aren't an alcoholic so they agree and start out with one but you cave and go back to having several everyday....something to ponder. Lastly... I just recently lost my youngish athlete husband of 31 years to a heart attack... he was so healthy on lab tests but proved to all of us God is in total control... he's the only boss we have, the only thing we take with us when we go is our soul. Nothing on this planet matters...so there is nothing more important then focusing and working on perfecting our soul... not our flesh. If God wants to change what the family unit looks like leave it to him! Our job is to only work on our own soul. I have no intention of marrying again, he's irreplaceable and to honor the deep deep fulfilling love we have for each other...you don't have to have multiple spouses to have the all around support with one. Instead of potentially leading souls to a place of no return I encourage you to share with the world how successful your marriage is going.... you've taken us on this journey of yours and now that you're finally getting married it would be great to continue your journey in showing the world how to keep a marriage together and maybe adopt a child so you can further be an example how important it is to have both a mother and father together to raise and strengthen the family unit creating a better stronger society.... You thinking having multiple wives is going to solve our societies problems when men and women can't even keep their families together dealing with just one spouse... why not promot to wait till you really find the right person and only marry if the person has the same exact passion to do whatever it takes to keep the marriage together no matter what.... there's a lot of honor in that way of thinking. I could go on... but it's already been too much😅 thanks for sticking with reading my thoughts to the end!! Take care all❤

[@RobBKowalski]

I am trying to piss some pastors off enough to go to scripture and research this topic to prove me wrong...which they won't be able to do. BUT, maybe if enough people open their eyes and see what scripture actually says regarding marriage, we can start to clean up this mess. if you really want to know the truth its out there. Here is where I started: www.bereanpatriot.com/is-polygamy-polygyny-biblical-does-god-allow-it/

[@kearasteger8258]

Rob....really that's your response to my message???... that you're trying to piss off pastors.....wow! Obviously you're missing the boat, you're in your own head.....you're not being fully open....because of that you're not going to be able to hear the wisdom from our blessed Lord or anyone for that matter.... very sad actually.... you expect everyone to consider word for word what your trying to prove yet you don't even consider what everyone is sharing with you.... doesn't even sound like you read any of my words to you.... and you claim you read all of our messages.... your response tells me otherwise. The direction you've taken is disappointing but you not reading, hearing and being open to the wisdom from everyone around you is even more concerning, we're all in it together and have the same goal.. to have enteral happiness with God when we physically leave this planet .... this "new" Rob is teetering on a slippery slope... God will consider ignorance... Focusing on a concrete fact, which is the condition of a person's soul is way way way more vital then the rabbit hole you're running down... and there could very well be a trap that will decide your fate.... this is the hill you want to die on???? Good luck with this.... over and out, the encouragement giving to my teenagers is now officially over....I will continue to check in on you while praying you weigh the risk you're taking with your own soul and those that your influencing... it's not your place to play God.... so I hope someday I find you've come to see the light🙏 Ps... it's so amusing you think people are going to sign up for your classes on how to find a spouse and keep them when you have this philosophy... I still have many many questions behind your motivation for putting all your energy into this... very bewildering....

[@melbashank5295]

@@kearasteger8258 well said! He’s definitely lost his marbles somewhere along the way.

[@LogCabin-h2l]

@@RobBKowalski I read and thought well of much of what Berean Patriot published on marriage and divorce. Are YOU the Berean Patriot?

[@LogCabin-h2l]

@kearasteger8258 Don't you agree that when Peter tells us (2 Peter 1:3) that God has given us EVERYTHING we need for life and Godliness (through the scriptures), that this includes the parameters for Godly marriage? Of course we can KNOW God's plan for marriage, since our faith is not blind but is based on the things revealed to us (Deuteronomy 29:29) by our God. If remarriage or polygyny isn't acceptable to you personally, that's fine for YOU... but what could that possibly have to do with God's revealed will for the members of the Church being built by his son Jesus?

[@asherrey]

Yes, getting ousted from groups is par for the course. I've been shunned from 3 churches and 2 telegram groups. I've been arrested twice and imprisoned for 65 days. All for Truth.

[@ottom.3094]

Why did they imprison you for 65 days? Seems extreme considering men are sleeping with multiple women (without marrying them),

[@asherrey]

@@ottom.3094 For preaching about Jesus. I assure that's not extreme compared to what the future holds for men like me. Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

[@ottom.3094]

@@asherrey Which area of the country are you in brother?

[@asherrey]

@@ottom.3094 I am living in Mexico.

[@ottom.3094]

@@asherrey The country of idolatry. Keep fighting for the light.

[@joshmoore5671]

​ @RobBKowalski Legitimate question - We know from scripture that marriage is a picture of God's relationship with the Church. As such, how does that picture change with multiple wives?

[@alishaba-]

My husband and I courted for 9 months before getting married. There's nothing wrong with getting married soon when you know you want to be with that person. We've also had the same problem with trying to find people to worship with who accept what the Bible says on this and other topics. As women, it is sometimes challenging for us to be a helpmate in the Biblical sense. Instead, women often try to 'help' by unknowingly trying to control what their husband does instead of trusting him to lead and supporting him in the role he's in. And men have a natural desire to please their wives. God designed men this way. The only problem is when their desire to please a woman comes before their desire to please God. But a godly woman will always want you to put Him before her, even if she doesn't necessarily like everything you do or have been called to do. And it's not easy out here being a godly woman in a world full of feminism. As women we're designed to want community from other women and it can be hard to find and keep friends even in the body of Christ once you understand certain things, such as polygyny. We're also designed to fill a submissive role so we're more susceptible to being bothered by what others think. And honestly I think the devil puts more pressure on us than the men because we are the bricks that either build a family or make it fall. From the beginning, it was the woman who was targeted. Nothing has changed. I encourage you to pray for and with your wife every day. And God bless your marriage. 🙏

[@RobBKowalski]

So much truth in this comment. Thank you. You hit the nail on the head, the trouble starts when our desire to "please a woman comes before their desire to please God." Thank you for the reminder to pray FOR my girl everyday and not just WITH her.

[@cianosorio]

Thank you for the strength and knowledge that comes from these words

[@ValleyOfJehoshaphat144]

“They will put you out of the synagogues. In fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God.” ‭‭John‬ ‭16‬:‭2‬ ‭

[@ArmChairMissions]

Hi I'm the female version of Jeremiah. Nice to meet you 😁

[@ronandheather3079]

I got kicked out of the church for standing up for the truth as well. Now I have a hot wife who actually wants 2 more sister wives! The church can keep their monogamy all to themselves. I get all the women! Hahahaha! Keep preaching monogamy is what I say! They are pushing all the women my way! This is too easy!

[@ValleyOfJehoshaphat144]

“They will put you out of the synagogues. In fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God.” ‭‭John‬ ‭16‬:‭2‬ ‭

[@ValleyOfJehoshaphat144]

“They will put you out of the synagogues. In fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God.” ‭‭John‬ ‭16‬:‭2‬ ‭

[@ottom.3094]

@@ValleyOfJehoshaphat144 Ecclesiastes 4:12 NLT A person standing alone can be attacked and defeated, but two can stand back-to-back and conquer. Three are even better, for a triple-braided cord is not easily broken.

[@mkmobilegaminginthephilippines]

lol they kick you out for being a polygamous but they don't kick gay people out

[@ottom.3094]

They welcome them. They have pride flags during pride month. Woe to those who call evil good and good evil.

[@RobBKowalski]

I know right?

[@xxxViceroyxxx]

@@lightscameratamara that many emojis and 0 response huh

[@lowslowflyer77]

Glad to hear you say you're sticking with your mission. Women will inately try to emasulate then leave you, but patriarchs never madee any of their several wives thier mission or goal in live , she should be along for the ride and not driving the bus, with yoou as a passenger. Kudos brother Stick with the mission He (GOD the father ) gave you, it's going to help ,many out f thei monogamy nightmare.

[@terrigallagher5998]

God's mission for all of us is to share the Gospel of Salvation in whatever job we have. You are the one who has become indoctrinated😔😔

[@blablabla-zk8np]

No way! I can't believe it! What has the world come to?

[@bubbahuckleberry498]

have you done a deep dive on the meaning of fornication yet? judging from the context in this video, it sounds like your definition is "pre-marital sex" or "sex outside of marriage?"

[@RobBKowalski]

No I have not. Please educate me. I do know the NT tells us to marry to avoid fornication. So that leads me to believe that sex outside of marriage is fornication. Am I missing something?

[@bubbahuckleberry498]

@@RobBKowalski yes.. if i recall correctly pete rambo does a video or two about it... but trust me.. you are in for quite a ride! i've watched multiple videos on the term and i am not absolutely sure what the true definition is... but i am 100% sure it is not what the govt 501c3 churchianity churches claim... i.e. the webster's dictionary definition.

[@2Peter3Nine]

As you should have. Shame on you for perverting the cross of Christ and dragging your wife through the mud with you. I hope you change your ways before it's too late. Gross.

[@myronbourne6937]

@@2Peter3Nine womp womp

[@2Peter3Nine]

@@myronbourne6937 ?

[@LogCabin-h2l]

Some people who say they are believers say that while polygyny may be allowed, it is not God's best/ideal... and so it is wrong. What kind of scriptural hermeneutic is that? Not good, and not Godly! If God permits a thing, then it follows that he does not forbid it. What will be right for each man or woman, each one's personally maturity in the Lord and how bound up is each one in modern western tradition and mindset are different questions entirely, and have no bearing on what God approves or disapproves generally speaking. Polygyny seems approved of God. Paul commanded believers to no longer conform to the pattern of this world, but to be renewed in the attitude of their minds; but such renewal is scarce.

[@BasilNaaar]

I believe I mentioned this in another video of yours, but one of the major drawbacks of polygyny is that your attention is divided. You are starting to feel this even before your marriage has been consummated. Imagine how it would be afterward, especially if you had two or three more wives. Paul addresses this issue in 1 Corinthians 7:32-34, where he says, "I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord's affairs-how he can please the Lord. But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world-how he can please his wife-and his interests are divided." Although I don't believe polygyny is a sin, it's definitely not suited for our time. During the eras of Abraham and Solomon, wives were literally submissive, there for procreation, and to please their husbands. In our modern society, women are very needy, have many demands, impose their will, and are not at all delicate, polite, or submissive. That's why I made the decision to stick to one wife, so that I can accomplish as much for the Lord as possible. I commend the brothers who stay single for the Gospel. If we had a different quality of women, then polygyny might be possible, See Ecclesiastes 7:28, "while I was still searching but not finding-I found one upright man among a thousand, but not one upright woman among them all."

[@RobBKowalski]

My concern is not how much attention I pay to my wife or wives. my concern is, how can I accomplish my God given mission. If more than one wife can help me do this, then that is what I will do in all likelihood. I will love my wives, but they are there to serve me ]in helping me reach my purpose, that is why they are called "helpmeets" or "helpmates"

[@xxxViceroyxxx]

having the option to take another wife is literally the solution to a lot of those problems though

[@mrs.meowgi4879]

Run far away from this man ladies .... Red flags red flags!

[@Leanaslife_]

@@mrs.meowgi4879amen 😂

[@LogCabin-h2l]

@@mrs.meowgi4879 Rob is making an argument from the scriptures. If you disagree with him, you also ought to do so using the scriptures, rather than issuing baseless, slanderous warnings.

[@Michelle-vv3kz]

blessings to you! I'm working right now but I did have a chance to watch your video and there's probably a thousand things I would like to say but time constraints won't allow that here. I know polygyny. I grew up believing it. My father lived it. I lived it for 38 years. I really put my heart and soul into believing this system. Whenever there was issues that seemed to rise up in our family,in polygyny.. I always said, it's not the principal it's the people ..meaning problems were because people are sinful and the principle is not to blame. However, having been around it by living it and watching others live it and just seeing fruits manifested that we're not good, over time...and, . Not just in one or two or three years ..we're talking decades of time. Anyway ..I kept ignoring it for many many years and finally I just had to step back and really dive deep into the scripture and just be prayerful about it and say Lord! what is your will? What is your way? Well, I've found, in the Bible, there's a pattern of.... monogamy! Wow, go figure . wherever God's involved, it's monogamy ..wherever man is involved, it is polygyny. I don't expect you to agree with me and I expect you think I'm wrong. But, I have repented of polygyny. I will be that voice to others that show this system of polygeny is of man but God's way is monogamy. I wish you the best❤

[@RobBKowalski]

I'm sorry you went through that, but I agree with your first stance, that people are sinful. You can look around and see monogamy is definitely no magic pill. Dating and marriage is a MESS! A pattern of monogamy in scripture? Where?? The only man in the Bible we know definitively was monogamous was Uriah. There are no others, you are just making assumptions.

[@Michelle-vv3kz]

@@RobBKowalski well I'll definitely agree that monogamy is not meant to solve problems. however monogamy is the standard. You can't really argue with Genesis 2:24 " Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." Two become one, not three become one or four become one and so forth. Monogamy is consistent throughout when you're talking about standards and God's fingerprint is on it.. Noah and his sons had a single wife, everybody else was destroyed in the flood. there's this pattern: all the animals were two by two, male and female. Paul confirming it and also Jesus in the New testament confirmed it. What Bible are you reading? I usually read the King James version. I have looked at it very carefully. there are about 40 cases of polygyny in the Bible. many men did not live it.... not sure where you're getting your information from? Just because men lived it does not give it as the direction that we should take it we should always go back carefully consider the standard of God not man

[@Michelle-vv3kz]

Also we don't lower the standard just because men are sinful it seems a good idea maybe that men have multiple wives because that's their tendency however God doesn't lower his standard just because of this we need to raise up our standards for Him.

[@xxxViceroyxxx]

@@Michelle-vv3kz so you have both failed to engage the argument and failed to make a coherent case for your own

[@LogCabin-h2l]

@@Michelle-vv3kz Genesis 2:24 dealt with the only two eligible people around, so of course the marriage was between two... and it is remains between two. But the bible also seems to reveal (from multiple lines of evidence) that one man can be one flesh with more than one woman at the same time. Also, we do not know that Noah did not have more than one woman; that's just an assumption. I think the Christian life is properly built on what we clearly see taught in scripture, and not conjecture or scripture read through the lens of tradition or modern western norms. What God has approved, let man not prohibit... for that is Pharisaic legalism.

[@petergrambo]

Shalom, achi! Great vlog.... made me laugh multiple times! Stand strong! Truth will prevail and the price is worth it. Bonus: You gave me a great quote/tshirt idea.... have to work it out... 🤣🤣🤣

[@TenCommandments10]

Deuteronomy 17:17 King James Version 17 Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold. A man with one wife is obedient to God because he went forth and multiplied, not went in multiple directions. It was wrong when Sarah gave her slave to Abraham. Polygamy goes against the biblical doctrine of husband and wife. Check Ephesians 5. Husbands love your wives as the Lord loves the church. How many churches does the Lord have? 1. Don't get greedy. God bless

[@RobBKowalski]

There are three things mentioned here that the king is not supposed to multiply: horses, wives, and monetary wealth (“silver and gold”). For some reason, this verse is sometimes used to support the idea that a man can't have more than one wife. On the same logic, of course, that means that the king can also only have one horse, one piece of silver, and one piece of gold. Or maybe he can have a few pieces of silver and gold. He apparently can “multiply” silver and gold, he just can’t “greatly multiply” his cash. Apparently with respect to money, the king can be a little out in front of the other guys (which makes sense), but with respect to women and horses, the king is supposed to be a ‘regular guy’. And under God’s law, regular guys can have more than one wife. The king just isn’t supposed to take advantage of his status and wealth to horde all the fine women! In John Gill's commentary, he says that the Jews commonly held that the king could have up to 18 wives and no more. That’s about what King David had; maybe they got it from that. That gives you the idea, though, of what "multiply" might mean. One to ten wives or so, no big deal (if a guy can afford it). Ten to twenty or so must be the king or a very rich man. Over twenty, and people start to wonder what your deal is. Speaking of “affording it”, that brings up what is the really practical limitation on polygamy: economics. There’s a verse in Exodus that says that if a man brings a second wife on board, he has to maintain the first wife’s standard of living (well, with respect to food and clothing, at least), or else she can walk. The idea seems to be that a prosperous man will be able to take care of more than one woman, and if a man can’t support them properly, he shouldn’t have more than one woman (in the same way that traditionally it was a given that if a man couldn't support a woman so she could bear and raise his children, he shouldn't get married at all). For the regular guy, the factor limiting the number of wives he could have was his material wealth. The king provision here speaks to the case where you have essentially unlimited wealth, but God says that doesn’t mean you get unlimited wives (or horses).

[@TenCommandments10]

@@RobBKowalski I see you are trying to justify your desires and that is not justifying the word of God. The word is not saying to have only one horse, It does say to Neither shall he multiply wives to himself. neither shall he GREATLY MULTIPLY weath to himself. You don't want the truth. you was to be disobedient. REPENT!!

[@xxxViceroyxxx]

@@TenCommandments10 not an argument.

[@APolitically]

Funny you should complain about all the "fornication"...

[@KirschFamilyAdventures]

Are you assuming the mens group leader didn't "search it out" himself because he's coming to a different conclusion than you are on the matter? That would definitely be poor judgement on your half.

[@RobBKowalski]

He, like most other Christians have not searched this out for themselves, thery just parrot what was told to them ("God allowed it back then...." or whatever BS). I know this because if they had looked into it, it would be easy to see the MANY holes in the monogamy-only marriage doctrine and that it did not come from God or God's people (Israel), it came from Rone (pagans)...the first people to advocate one man one woman, hence the name "romantic".

[@KirschFamilyAdventures]

@@RobBKowalski ok so you did in fact assume he didn't search it out in the scriptures because he came to a different conclusion than you. I think that is a narrow minded way to think. Many people do genuinely search out polygyny and come to different conclusions than you. There's even much debate within the polygyny community as to what exactly is biblical and/or permissible. Disagreements doesn't mean they didn't search it out.

[@FierceGeek]

Adam subjugated his mission to accommodate his wife, look what that got him AND us!

[@FierceGeek]

Ah, you hit that point later in the video, good job!

[@ManOfDeath567]

So are you saying that if Adam had multiple wives, he would not have eaten the apple? How would multiple wives prevent the fall of man?

[@gadsden4141]

You’re doing good work Rob. Keep it up man. I discovered this truth about two years ago. It’s been a long slog of research payer and study but I’ve decided it’s the lifestyle that will better support my mission from the Father. My wife is fully on board as I’ve lead her to this understanding as well. Please pray for me in my journey as I’ll pray for you.

[@RobBKowalski]

Absolutely brother. I have a program for men and women who believe in Biblical marriage and want to practice it. If you'd like to jump on a call and discuss it, send me an email to [e-mail]

[@calmaenlatormenta4811]

I feel sorry for your poor wife. I hope she opens her eyes.

[@jenmarworld940]

I think I see teachers like you also have your work cut out for you in that not only are you trying dispel the false doctrine of "monogamy only" onto men but now have to promote the Biblical and God ordered ways and practice of polygyny. Because as I'm seeing more positive promotion of men having more than one wife, I'm sadly seeing more promotion of polyamory among the women in those same households, and I find it sickening and frustrating. Also a lot of the ungodly are trying to push polyandry and that is definitely an abomination to God. One other thing I notice gaining popularity is men pushing guys to have side-chicks and teaching that women want to be side-chicks with no governance or care from the men, which is widely accepted by beta lazy unmotivated males, and is easily discoverable by searching "rules for having a side-chick" or "rules for being the other woman". This is a little bit of the struggle I am living in, as I am a single woman trying to show the man I love the Ways of God while he is still bound in the mindsets of western christian society and culture.

[@RobBKowalski]

I don't disagree that it is an uphill battle. But God...

[@roykhan2730]

@ 7:20 Yes, you could marry several women but you would break the law of the nation in the process. The main reason polygyny is anachronistic is simply because women today are no longer living and experiencing and reared as they were 2,500 years ago. Your fiancée had the gals to tell you that she'd rather see you do something else whereas 2000+ years ago, a fiancée in a similar situation would never had the thought to advise her man what route he should take in life. Expecting today's women to agree to a sister wife arrangement will require them to erase their entire upbringing and replace it with an unknown culture knowing she will never be able to tell her man what cologne she loves on you knowing she'd create tension with the other wife --- i.e PETE RAMBO's wife #1 bought him a coffee cup as a gift and quickly proceeded to alert wife#2 to do the same to prevent tension and rivalry. Debt SLAVERY, polygyny or HUMAN TRAFFICKING (Exodus 21:1-7) are NOT sin per se when done within biblical perimeters, but are simply OUT OF TIME.

[@RobBKowalski]

You only break the law if you have more than one marriage license, which I would never do. For me to "get married" in the sight of God, I don't need the same government's approval that tells me that two men can be married.

[@roykhan2730]

@@RobBKowalski I didn't think you would break the law, but for clarity sake, many young men are not aware of the covenantal marriage option rather than the contractual marriage via the state. A reminder of this option for believers would help many. PS: The current US Speaker of the House (Mike Johnson is a born again Christian) has a covenantal marriage (no state involvement). I'm a big proponent of it myself. Peace.

[@terrigallagher5998]

What pain and damage did you really suffer by waiting? Your timetable is not God's timetable. You were such a great example to others and the enemy has used your frustration, anger and disappointment to completely deceive you. Now you're deceiving others. God's hand of protection is being removed from you because of your disobedience. Just like the rebellious Israelites.

[@LogCabin-h2l]

Polygyny is Godly where there are fewer believing men than women, where women burn with desire, or are young widows with children, and/or who are single and burn for motherhood. Also, 1 Tim 3:2, lit. "a one woman man" is difficult to interpret definitively. It could well be an idiom for spiritual fidelity to God, as opposed to, for example, seeking to be a Christian leader while also being a Freemason, a Wiccan or a Buddhist. Or, it could mean that he MUST have a woman, and not be single. Or, he must have been faithful to his first, even if he also has a second. Or, he cannot be divorced/remarried, etc. But whatever the case, this unclear verse is unfit for use as a proof against believing men general, taking more than one eligible woman.

[@land_banes2639]

A friend of mine died of HIV because of his poly lifestyle. Sorry to disagree with this poly relationshp. Its still a sin.

[@myronbourne6937]

@@land_banes2639 cope

[@mkmobilegaminginthephilippines]

don't get distracted by that cat

[@akambajanch4063]

Are you a polygamist, if you are not I dont think its appreciate to post this thing online.

[@RobBKowalski]

I am a believer in polygyny being an acceptable form of marriage to God. What's your point?

[@simpsbelongtothegulags3702]

Just look at it in context, you can say its " legal " but it aint the solution to most of the issues rn

[@lumiere.clarita]

I have a question. Do you believe that there are any divine laws or teachings that are morally binding on Christians but not on non-Christians? As a point of analogy, the law commanding circumcision, and the prohibition against pork, were given specifically to the Jews. If you were a non-Jew, you didn't sin by eating pork. But if you were a Jew, it was a sin. When Peter asks Jesus, "How many times shall I forgive my brother when he sins against me? As many as seven times?" Jesus responds with, "I tell you not seven times, but seventy-seven times". Is Jesus commanding everyone to forgive, or is this teaching only binding on Christians? I think a lot of the online arguments you get into with people about polygamy are a result of putting the cart before the horse. In other words, there are presuppositions that you have to deal with first. One of them being - are there *any* divine laws that are binding on Christians alone?

[@BenjaminMaciel_MD]

Should have said… ok Ill stop talking polygny, if you all pull up your internet search history and there is no porn….

[@RobBKowalski]

Ha! Good one

[@ronandheather3079]

@@BenjaminMaciel_MD DAMMMMMMN! Good one !!!!

[@simismith9093]

No correlation. Secret sin is bad, but leading others to sin is worse. The Lord Jesus has very harsh words for people who lead others into sin. James also said that people who teach will be judged more severely. God doesn't like people leading others into sin so you have to be very careful when trying to teach others. If you are wrong, you're in trouble. That's why a church needs to protect the flock from wrong doctrine

[@xxxViceroyxxx]

@@simismith9093 there is a correlation, in fact a profound one.

[@lucyedmonds6161]

Unless, you are giving up on Christ. I hope not.

[@justanothergoy5900]

sign language

[@natepickering]

You're view is not Biblical; it's carnal. Read the Bible and watch Mike Wingers video. Get right with God.

[@myronbourne6937]

@@natepickering He destroyed Mike already.

[@jasmitharani9838]

@@myronbourne6937Where?

[@ottom.3094]

Ecclesiastes 4:12 NLT A person standing alone can be attacked and defeated, but two can stand back-to-back and conquer. Three are even better, for a triple-braided cord is not easily broken.

[@anthonywisky6767]

What is wrong with this comment section…. Repent all of you.

[@myronbourne6937]

@@anthonywisky6767 truth hurts

[@myronbourne6937]

Hated by many, disproved by none. 💯 Stay strong bro

[@RobBKowalski]

Love that. Thanks brother

[@ArmChairMissions]

It was I. I disproved 👎

[@2Peter3Nine]

Actually Mike winger destroyed all this nonsense using the Bible. You should just convert to Islam because what you are now preaching is no longer Christianity. Don't be fooled. This is sick.

[@greywisker3180]

@@myronbourne6937 Deuteronomy 17:17 Now, show me in the New Testament where Polygamy is justified?......Revelation 1:6 says WE are kings and priests, therefore we should take Gods advice He gave to the kings in the Old Testament and not have many wives. Take Jesus' advice.....Matthew 19:5 For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the TWO shall become one flesh.......How can you be ONE FLESH with many wives?

[@myronbourne6937]

@@greywisker3180 Cope.

[@JayDaisy-hn4mz]

Man. you've really gone off the deep end. First and foremost, before the Polygamy zealots come out and attack, I am NOT anti polygamy. I do not believe it is a sin, nor do i condemn anyone who practices it. That said, Rob, you have NO IDEA what you are talking about. While you could make the argument that the "monogamy only doctrine" is a lie ( which i would agree), the same can be said about the "polygamy is G-d's ideal" doctrine. You got the chain of command correct. That said, you are most DEFINITELY to take your wife's feelings into consideration...obviously not to the point that it dishonors G-d, but none the less... For example - Painting your bathroom pink is not a sin. If your wife wants that, there is nothing wrong with taking her feeling into consideration. No need to "stand your ground" and prove that you're in control etc.. on the contrary, if your wife wants you to worship Baal, then that would obviously be an abomination and Sin to G-d and the G-d honoring thing to do would be to exercise you G-d given authority and say "NO". Point is, monogamy is not a sin, and your wife wanting that is not either.. With that, If your wife is not on board with you marrying another woman, is that really a hill you're willing to die on, just to prove your point? Are you dishonoring G-d by NOT marrying multiple women? What if you (Rob) marry this woman, and then she decides she's no longer cool with your stance on polygamy ? will you divorce her? will you still marry another woman anyways? If you and your wife have a daughter, would you teach her it's a good thing for her to have a sister wife?... these are things i would submit that you have not thought all the way through. You have not thought this through and through because you have never been married or had a family, and have NO IDEA (practically) what it means to sacrifice for anyone other than yourself. Once that ring goes on and you and her say I do, things will change. My brother, i say this in all humility, you are going to destroy this poor woman before you even begin. You reference your calling from G-d. Well, once you marry and become one flesh, who do you suppose your first disciple(s) are? If you put your ministry before your wife and children, you're out of order. Again, you can argue this all you want, but once you say I do, you will see how quick things change.... to wrap this all up, you may want to consider the cost of the things you are saying. Your soon to be bride is watching and most likely brainstorming her future. Remember, though something is legal, doesnt necessarily mean it is beneficial or ideal. You're life is about to change and you will be leading a house hold. Don't take that responsibility lightly. I hope you are able to receive this in all humility. Proverbs 13:18-25 A person who refuses correction will end up poor and disgraced, but the one who accepts correction will be honored.

[@RobBKowalski]

Brother, I never said "polygamy was God's ideal", where did you get that from? I said was that telling men that monogamy is the only marriage structure acceptable to God is false doctrine. As fas as my "wife not being on board with me marrying another", if God tells me to marry the widow across the street, I'm not going to say, "hold on God, let me ask my wife." 99% of women aren't going to love the idea of competition for their man's resources and attention coming into the house, but they need to know that is a possibility and a man's Biblical right if HE so chooses, not her. You my friend have NO IDEA what you are talking about if that's what you think. I won't divorce anyone, bcz the Bible tells me not to. However if a wife chooses to leave bcz a man exercises his right to additional wives, then she would have to stay single and sexless the rest of her life if she doesn't want to be an adulterer. isn't it funny how God thought of everything and we just have to read His word to see what it says.

[@LogCabin-h2l]

@JayDaisy-hn4mz Everything you asked or asserted is adequately addressed in the scriptures, and I think the end result remains that polygyny is approved of God. Certainly God tells each man in the church to consider his woman and live with her according to compassionate knowledge of her (1 Peter 3:7) in order that his prayers would be answered; this would lead a man to Godly maturity instead of brute force polygyny. But God also wants women to grow spiritually, and perhaps (for example) to see her widowed close friend as someone to bless by sharing her husband, whom they can then both equitably and voluntarily share as sisters in Christ.

[@teresalynnham]

So, this is how Rob traps the first wife. He tells her he can take a 2nd, even if she opposes him doing so. He violates their oneness and commits adultery but manipulates 1st wife with "if you divorce me for my adultery ( saying he hasn't committed adultery by taking the 2nd wife) you can't remarry or else you're (the 1st wife) committing adultery. THAT IS SPIRITUAL ABUSE!! Not counting all the other statements Rob has made in various posts showing his Pride, blindness, selfishness, lust, manipulation, misappropriating scriptures, etc. That church/bible study/group of men had every right and wisdom to ask Rob to leave!! My heart breaks for this young girl he's calling his wife!! Rob's is not following how Jesus sees, treats and values women. Jesus is/was not manipulative and never set a trap for anyone!! But it was the Pharisees and Sadducees that tried to set traps for Jesus! You don't speak much about who Jesus IS and how you follow HIM. Are you Really and truly following Jesus? or your pride , blindness and lust of the flesh and worldly things? We've all sinned, stumbled, and let go of Jesus's hand in one way or another! But you can repent, be forgiven, turn around and truly follow Jesus! Let HIM renew your mind and heart ❤️HE will if you humble yourself and truly ask HIM❤ HE KNOWS OUR HEARTS , EVEN BETTER THAN WE DO! ❤️

[@mkmobilegaminginthephilippines]

yep

[@888hereandnow]

💔😪

[@lucyedmonds6161]

Congratulations, but scripture… you can expose it with scripture. Where. Because you know better.

[@cattywampusmcdoogle]

Expose it being a sin then.... show the scrupture

[@FAITHUNITYLOVE]

I notice you went to scripture of man and women and you right women was created to help man too meet his purpose of following the commandments of God but her flesh lead her to follow the commandments of sin.She then help her husband to meet his purpose of sin. Hummmmmm I also notice you didn't bring up Male and Female that became one flesh as Christ stated.......So my question witch couple do you follow?

[@RobBKowalski]

What are you talking about? The last time I fucked you, you were with that other girl named Crystal in my bed and that was in my big beautiful house in Canton that I owned. Do you forget? And the very first threesome I had with you when you were married (Crystal Fisher or "Crystal Fit" on FB) was with my gf at the time at MY place in Brooklyn. Do you forge all this you bitter old hag?

[@jimmieloumabe4524]

What Bible are you reading if you believe the Bible is the word of God it said one man and one woman the two become one flesh it doesn’t say the 10 become one flesh and your pastor. You can only have one wife. My husband was my other half with the Bible talks about we were married 57 years and We would’ve been married longer than that, but I lost him to cancer I will pray for you you believe a lie

[@lauriefraser430]

Lol, none of the Apostles had more than one wife. It's sad when people try to make the bible say what they want it to. Next, you will say it's ok to marry your sister. There are things God allowed in the early times that he changed after a while. All the nations practiced that at first, but God never said it was ok. IThere was a time God allowed if a man brother dies childless that his brother would marry the wife and have children with her to continue his name in the family. That was until they multiplied as a great people. But after they grew as a people that wasn't need any more. It's not God's will to marry more than one wife, but it wasn't practice even before Abraham came to know God. Abraham married his half-sister, but it's not ok now! Things were allowed at different times in the Old Testament for different reasons. We were in the law be after Jesus came, and we are not anymore. It's the time of grace now, but some people are still stuck in the law. God tells us in the new testament you should have only one wife. Be careful because it's a very narrow road to get to heaven.

[@ValleyOfJehoshaphat144]

David had multiple wives and God said his only wrong doing was killing Uriah and taking his wife. Read 1 Samuel . Not surprising you’re a woman

[@ValleyOfJehoshaphat144]

David had multiple wives and God said his only wrong doing was killing Uriah and taking his wife. Read 1 Samuel . Not surprising you’re a woman

[@cattywampusmcdoogle]

nowhere does it say anything about what gods will is... and nowhere is the greek testament. does it condemn multiple wives or call it sin..... try again

[@petergrambo]

​@@cattywampusmcdoogle *condemn

[@cattywampusmcdoogle]

@@petergrambo good catch...

[@leonaperdue8784]

So wrong. Go back to the garden. Adam and Eve. Not plus Plus plus plus. Such wrong doctrine. Not just on this point.

[@cattywampusmcdoogle]

sure... no wander around naked because the garden story gave you the description, and while you're at it, only eat fruits, nuts, and veggies.... give up your sugar, processed foods, snacks, coffee, soda, and all the other things not described in the garden story... Adam and Eve = man and woman, how you fulfill the commandment to be fruitful and multiply..... never said only a single man and a single woman. Try again and do better

[@ritaschultz6859]

I know move to the middle east

[@lucyedmonds6161]

Please show where in the bible that it say it’s ok, please don’t say King Solomon. Scripture…. Because as a believer it’s a sin.

[@cowboy101lisa]

How about you show us where it’s a sin. You calling it that doesn’t make it so. Remember where there is no law, there is no sin.

[@onlinemoney6144]

Abraham, Israel, Judah, Gideon, Samson, David, and Solomon had multiple wives. “Lamech took to himself two wives” (Gen. 4:19)

[@RobBKowalski]

Exodus 21:10, and Exodus 22:16 & Deuteronomy 25:5-10 actually commands it in some circumstances.

[@ottom.3094]

Many places. How about when the Creator told King David - I gave you your Master's wives - and I would had given you "MORE" wives if you asked - but why did you have to take another man's wife and commit adultery? Parable of the Talents. The Father in Heaven has zero issue giving faithful and capable men multiple wives - versus some bum takes them and leaves them and the children.

[@lucyedmonds6161]

@@cowboy101lisa Deuteronomy 17:17 New International Version 17 He must not take many wives, or his heart will be led astray. He must not accumulate large amounts of silver and gold.

[@DaddyDifference]

Can you tell me more about the "first wife" thing from 1 Timothy 3:12, Rob?

[@Micaiah144]

@@DaddyDifference 1. that Greek word used can also mean "a" therefore possibly "a wife" instead of one wife. 1Ti 3:12 KJV Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. Examples of "a" with same Greek word usage ; Matthew 21:19, Matthew 26:69, Revelation 9:13

[@RobBKowalski]

Or husbands of "first" wife meaning not divorced.

[@LogCabin-h2l]

@@RobBKowalski Right- the context is having a woman and children so the brethren can see if the man in question manages his own natural household well, so "a wife" (as opposed to "never married and no children") makes reasonable sense. But either way, the fact that translation is disputable makes this verse unsuitable for the establishment of doctrine, and it must rather be interpreted by the clear passages and the immediate context.