How can a loving God send someone to Hell? | GotQuestions.org

[@BobR-x5o]

Thanks!

[@gotquestions]

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[@danapriess8860]

I pray that my family and i will all shall dwell in the house of the Lord together our whole lives long.

[@nicholasclarke8182]

I remember when I had a problem with this question but now I can fully understand why it is as we send ourselves there

[@Foxuniverso]

I always liked the change of perspective. "How can a loving God allow a criminal into heaven for free?" Cause its infact his grace that gets us there. We have no merit.

[@samtod5844]

What does this comment mean elaborate

[@kattilathehunfreedomfighter]

Beautifully and clearly stated! Praise Jesus! 🙏

[@WatchmanINC777]

God has never sent one person to hell, everyone that went chose it just like they chose to reject the truth. Because the truth shall set us free!

[@Adrenalean767]

Doesn't the Bible say that God has his chosen people? Doesn't that mean that those who arent chosen are automatically headed to hell?

[@WatchmanINC777]

He paid the full price of all of our sins so that we may be saved, but whoever refuses to believe in what he did is not in the new covenant of his perfect atonement of his blood and sacrifice. And no one can enter into the kingdom of heaven with sin. You have to be perfect to enter into the presence of a perfect God. Everyone is destined to go to hell without the blood of Jesus covering their sin. So if you deny the truth, which is Jesus Christ, then you deny the perfect place which he has prepared for all who would simply believe. God is sovereign and knows all things past, present, and future, yet he still gives us free will and the ability to choose what we do with today, tomorrow, and the future. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

[@daniellim8964]

The persecutors sent people there by persecuting them into going there.

[@MC-mq9rg]

​​@@Adrenalean767no God knows those who will obey Him and He calls them chosen. Then there are those who reject Him by choice, God knew these too. Hell was not created for humans, but the devil and his daemons., but they will take rebellious humans with them.

[@Adrenalean767]

@MC-mq9rg For so the Lord has commanded us: ‘I have set you as a light to the Gentiles, That you should be for salvation to the ends of the earth. 48 Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:47,48

[@thejohannreinshow2497]

God is so loving that He won't force anyone to be with Him for eternity. His presence gives everything that is good and his absence is also the absence of everything that is good. If a person chooses to reject God, it also means rejection of everything that is good. Hell is the absence of everything that is good and anyone in hell will experience everything that is not good.

[@AdamsTaiwan]

A more scriptural view would be heaven is God's favorable presence and hell is His wrathful presence. Rev. 14:10‭-‬11 he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

[@randy-9842]

Very good message! Specifically, I appreciate your correcting the misperceived definition of love (starting at ~ 0:23) and the questions you asked (starting at ~ 4:44). I believe these are big hurdles to those who struggle with God's saving grace and love. Thank you!

[@ConvincedofChristianity]

Excellent video!

[@Gen_4927]

Great job

[@s.d.melcher]

Thank you for this channel. ✨💖💪✝️🕊️💖✨

[@BADDMIXX]

Amen Brother Nelson! As It Is Written! KJV - Hebrews 10 : 26 *_“For If WE Sin Wilfully After That WE Have Received The Knowledge Of The Truth, There Remaineth No More Sacrifice For Sins,”_*

[@skywatcher7777]

You’ve never sinned *wilfully*?

[@BADDMIXX]

Of course. Before I was Born Again. I still Sin unwillingly. However. I confess my sins to The LORD daily🙏

[@jellyface401]

Every time I doubt God's Love, I remember Jesus sacrifice in the Cross. Only a loving God could do that! I like this explanations, I try saying to myself, focus on what is certain and what is true, It is true that no matter the sin it can be forgiven if we accept Jesus in our hearth , and accept that he died in the cross and he came back to life we can be cleansed regardless of sin, a sacrifice so pure and perfect that makes sin irrelevant.

[@SDsc0rch]

the door of hell is locked from the inside these people DO NOT WANT GOD God grants them their desires

[@rogerjohnson833]

God doesn't send anyone to eternal hell. They send themselves to eternal hell. Jesus sacrificed himself to keep mankind out of hell. He gives us a freewill to choose.

[@abelincoln.2064]

God said the punishment for sin by Man is simply death (body & soul). Only Fallen Angels are punished forever in Hell. Jesus spend 3 days in Hell ...; which means the sinful soul dies after after 3 days. But that means for 3 day you will be tortured by Fallen Angels just as Jesus was. Hell only destroys a ... sinful ... soul. Jesus did not sin for 3 days and fulfilled the sin sacrifcie.

[@bobbyadkins6983]

Here's a question for those who would ask such a question. How could a loving God allow those who hate Him and His people into Heaven? Especially when He wanted to save them but they hated Him and rejected Him?

[@Robert-r4s4c]

Hell is the state of "self-exclusion" from communion with God.

[@AdamsTaiwan]

Luke 12:4‭-‬5 “I say to you, My friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that have no more that they can do. But I will warn you whom to fear: fear the One who, after He has killed, has authority to cast into hell; yes, I tell you, fear Him!" Notice the words: "cast into hell"

[@Robert-r4s4c]

@@AdamsTaiwan What about all the other Scripture that affirms hell is turning away from God ?

[@BobR-x5o]

Excellent - thank you very much

[@USMCVETERAN-iy3je]

AMEN ! Jesus Christ ! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙏🏼🙋🏻‍♂️

[@avafury4584]

❤✝️ amen

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

He has no where else to send them. Theres only heaven or hell as final destinations. so if you refuse to get qualified for heaven, you send yourself to hell, bc theres no other place for you. you have CHOSEN that destination by ignoring the qualifications for heaven. Christianity is like driving! JESUS is the vehicle, but it cannot be used UNTIL YOU DECIDE to get in the drivers seat (ie get salvation) and turn the key (OBEY CHRIST/THE BIBLE)!!! and OBEY THE TRAFFIC LAWS (live a God honoring life) and THEN you literally DRIVE YOURSELF (choose wisely/act wisely/obediently) to Heaven!! IGNORING/rejecting/scorning Christ (salvation) youre going to walk in the ditch of life, in the mud, grass, stones, water etc instead of on the ROAD. the ditch leads to hell!!

[@abelincoln.2064]

There are three "heavens" in the Bible: God's Heaven with the two thrones; Universe heaven with the Earth, sun, moon & stars .... and ... Atmostphere (sky) heaven that surrounds the Earth and is needed for Life. Only the Universe & Atmostphere "heavens" were corrupted by the Fall of Man ... starting time, decaly & death. So the new Heaven & Earth ... is the new "Multiverse" & Earth. God's Heaven was never corrupted by the sin of Adam & Eve. And God ( Jesus) created Heaven & Hell ... because as the Angel of God ... He knew from the very beginning what He would have to do (become) to save His Children procreated by Man over 7 x 1000 year. The Angel of God agreed to be remade by God ... a Son of Man (Adam) ... with a body & soul ... and start His life & existence all over again ... as a Human Being ... forever. Jesus is still the Angel of God ... but no longer has God powers ... nor .... is He part of the "Being" of God as He's naw a puny Human. Again. Jesus is still the Angel of God every though He has a body & soul forever. This is why the Angel of God created Heaven ... for God .... to be One, and it only has two thrones because God (Father) can only take one form at a time, Son of God has a body & soul ... and ... the Spirit of God is everywhere, and can take an infinite number of forms but is normally UNSEEN. Before Creation ... God did not need a Heaven with two thrones ... nor billions of Angels praising & worshiping Him. The Angels were created to serve & help ... the Children of God .... where Jesus is the first Child of God and the Father of the Chidlren of God (Son). God(Jesus) deliberately created Man with a puny body & soul ... knowing every thought & action of every Human ... in oerder for Him to be the sin sacrifice ... that will save them from "death." The punishment for sin by Man ... is death (body on Earth, Soul in Hell). Hell was create to punish "powerful" fallen Angels forever ... and ... destroy a sinful soul. All are born with a corrupt body ... but perfect soul. Man's Mind ... is body & soul ... so when the body sins it must die and so too must the soul in Hell. The sould remains perfect even when the body is sinning, and it remembers everything the body thinks & does from conception. And when you body dies .. your Mind is transferred to the soul condemed to die in Hell. Hell can only destroy a "sinful" soul. This is why Jesus had to endure Hell for 3 days ... as this is the longest any Human Being has ever survived before sinning & dying. It your body sinned on Earth ... you soul will definitely sin in Hell being tortured by Fallen Angels to sin or worse to remin be a play thing forever. So even if you were kept sinless for 3 days will not save you from Hell, because .. you are body & soul ... and because of the sin of the body ... you must die (body & soul). Every soul will know this in Hell, regret their foolishness on Earth and will sin to cease to exist. Love has nothing to do with Justice. Both are characteristics of a Benevolent, & Holy God. God must enforce the Law create for for good & benefit of all. Including saving sinful Human Beings from the punishment of Death (body & soul) where God had to be remade a Son of Man (Adam) with a body & soul. The Law must be enforeced.

[@AdamsTaiwan]

@@abelincoln.2064 Jesus never stopped being God the Son. The scripture says that a body was prepared for Him. So His spirit entered flesh. If you hand enters a glove your hand does not stop being what it is, but rather has something added to it. He always had His power, but chose most of the time to not use it. You have a false God, false Jesus and no gospel and therefore according to scripture do not have eternal life. Repent (change your mind) and trust Jesus.

[@Peace-k9o]

People chose hell. Jesus, God's only son was sent to redeem us from the law. The gift of grace. Not to misuse, but are covered with if the person has a repented heart. The Kingdom of Heaven has rules that God created to run a tight ship. To devert chaos and live in peace. If you willingly choose to sin, to not follow God's rules, then which God are you serving or following. If you choose satan and his ways, he's your God, if you chose Jesus and his ways, it will lead to eternal life. Either way you have the right to chose. My people perish for lack of knowledge" is a phrase from the Bible, specifically from Hosea 4:6, which states, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge; because you have rejected knowledge, I also reject you from being priest for Me.".

[@AdamsTaiwan]

Do criminals choose prison? No, they commit crimes hoping they won't get caught and some don't. The result of a crime is to do time (be punished).

[@deanfry879]

My first thought on seeing the title was the hypocrisy of many of the people who ask this question. They themselves are not willing to live in the same house with some people, so they have their own answer. How could a loving God take someone to Heaven who does not want to be with Him?

[@Natch67]

Human's want free will. God gives it to us. Why blame God for our "Life Choices?" You will send yourself to Hell. God will let you have your way. It really is that simple.

[@walker3808]

free will my ass another lie from a loving God. Try this day and be just as pure as the living God and just as holy, you will find a different heavenly father one who loves it only he is holy and pure and his love of nailing his son up after he makes him beg like a dog to not have the cross smiling you have free will, be ye therefore perfect and holy. If you have free will you could this day walk a 1000 years without another sin in your soul oh ye free one.

[@Nick-filmsit]

@@walker3808????? Someone break this down and explain. This comment doesn’t make sense

[@antobudima5127]

Is it justice to punish the sons for their parent sins? The descendants of Adam don't even know what their sin, yet they have to suffer because of Adam's sin. If this is justice, should we follow God's action by punish also the descendants of the criminals ?

[@JosiahFickinger]

I am personally and passionately a condition immortalist because I i disbelieve the doctrine of eternal torment. I think im more inclinded to believe that maybe the fire isn't meant to inflict physical pain, but to destroy us by God's holiness. (I like to think the final destruction will be when each sinner will experience the pain God Himself feels everytime we sin, and each blow slowly destroys us. Now I'm sure this is a bit fetched, but eternal torment really makes no sense biblically or theologically.

[@abelincoln.2064]

The punishment for sin by puny Man ... is simply death (body & soul). The punishment for sin by powerful Angels ... is forever in Hell. Man is body & soul .... the Mind of Man being the body first .... then ... the Soul Both have freewill, nature, memory, intellect, senss, feelings and consciusness of the natural or unnatural. Earth is natural with time. Heaven & Hell are Unnatural & timeless. You do not know the day or hour .... your bodie dies ... and your soul leaves the Earth & Universe with time and goes straight to Judgement Day. And Justice & Love are separate characteristics of a Benevolent & Holy God ... as is Mercy & Grace. God is Just and must enforce the Law created for good & the benefit of all. Finally ... the Fall of Man only corrupted the body not the soul. God made the body (perfect or currpte) to precreate a perfect soul, and knowing every thought & action of every Human being on Earth & in Hell ... Jesus with a pure body & soul ... had to edure 3 days in Hell, because that is the longer any soul has endured before sinning & dying. Hell only destroys a sinful soul, all will sin and all will die (body & soul) especially if you are being tortured by Fallen Angels to sin, as Jesus was. This is why Jesus warns sinful Man to follow Him here on Earth .. because man's Mind moves from a corrupt body to a perfect soul that is condemned to to Hell. God is Just and must punish sin by Man with death (body & soul). This is why God agreed to be remade a Son of Man (Adam) with a body & soul .. to be the sin sacrifice .. acceptable to God. Again. The longest any Human Being has endured in Hell before sinning is 3 days. Only God was able to exceed it, and therefore could be resurrected into His original body ... spend 40 days in Jerusalem fulfilling Jonah and then be raptuerd to Heaven with a NEW body only as His soul remain pure & Holy. Likewise when a sinner accpets Jesus, ... his corrupt body dies ... but the perfect soul is not sent to Hell ... but is united with a NEW body and he is given a Holy nature just like Jesus ... become Children of God (Son). After the 1000 year reign that being 2030 ... Man's heart will turn completely against God (Jesus) ... and will accept the punishment of death for sin. As Man will reaslize that you simply will cease to exist once you sin in Hell. And Atheisms also believe you cease to exist once you die, which is why Atheist ideologies are all about here & now and self gratification. And smart Atheists know ... God of the Bible ... never said the punishment for sin by Man is forever.

[@Jupiter1423]

how could a loving judge send someone to prison?

[@svenskbibel]

The right questions and the right answers: “How can a holy God cast sinners into hell?” Answer: Because he is holy. “How can the God of love let the saved go to heaven?” Answer: Because he is love.

[@angloaust1575]

Vessels of wrath fitted for Destruction Has not the potter power over the clay!

[@BADDMIXX]

Amen!

[@hughsmyth9527]

Hell is only an event, unsaved don't have immortal souls, and where did righteous people go before Abraham existed? Abraham had a beginning, God has always been there.

[@tomw6271]

I think a harder question is, "How can an all knowing, and all powerful God send someone to hell?". Since God has always known everything and has the power to create the way He wants that means He knew who He was making to go to hell. If He didn't know this then He wouldn't be all-knowing and wouldn't be God. God has to be all-knowing since He is God, so He knew when He was creating a hell-bound soul before that soul sinned.

[@andrewdennis0]

Because despite being an all knowing God, he allows us free agency. Though, he knows all our ways and our destinies, he alllows is the ability to change it. He does not control us or our actions, as the Bible says that God does not tempt anyone, but he allows us to have free will. This is why he provided a savior in Jesus Christ, because he knew men would fall and naturally be inclined to sin.

[@Willpowerbomb]

@@andrewdennis0no one has free agency in their existence. This is why I believe conditional immortality (annihilation) makes more sense, both biblically and philosophically. People did not have free will to exist but those who freely choose to put their faith in Jesus Christ will gain eternal life.

[@andrewdennis0]

@Willpowerbomb of course people have free agency in their existence. We do not choose to come into this world but we certainly can choose to leave it. And we can choose what we do with our time here on earth. We may not be able to control all parameters of our lives but we certainly have the choice to control how we respond to God's calling, and thus what our ultimate destiny is.

[@Willpowerbomb]

@ that’s not what I meant, but I probably did not explain it well. Human beings do not have the free will to come into existence. Nobody decided, “I choose to be born and have life.” But we do have the choice to have eternal life. Those people who choose to reject the gift of eternal life will not be forced to live forever, either in heaven or in hell, but will have both body and soul destroyed, as stated in Matthew 10:28.

[@deanfry879]

@@Willpowerbomb Why is it so important to you that the evil eventually cease to exist instead of burning forever and ever?

[@IOANNIS-l7r]

THE LOVE IS JUSTICE LOVE WITHOUT JUSTICE IS MADNESS...WE CAN LOVE GOD BUT WE CAN LOVE ALSO THE SIN..FOR CHRISTIANITY LOVE IS AN ABSOLUTE VALUE BUT WE LOVE IN JUSTICE THIS MEANS THAT WE MUST LOVE WHAT IS HIGHEST AND GOOD AND TRUE. IN HELL THERE IS NO LOVE OF GOD THE DAMNATION IS THE ABSENCE OF LOVE FOR ETERNITY BECAUSE GOD IS LOVE SINCE THE WHOLE ETERNITY AND THIS DIVINE LOVE IS REVEALED IN JESUS CHRIST .AND WE CAN SAY THERE IS NO LOVE INTHE OTHERS RELIGIONS AS RABBINIC JUDAISM OR ISLAM....

[@dodo1opps]

Opinion...opinion...opinion...

[@dank2476]

All are born with original sin except Christ so God does not send people to hell as all deserve to be sent to hell because of original sin.

[@michajansen6362]

God🕊️ never send Somebody to Hell people make their own choice to live separately from God and they will get what they want a totally a eternal separation of a Good God God himself is Al the goodness Hel is a Place where there is no Good because he is not there! Jesus Loves you he wants a relationship with you no religion he never send Somebody somewhere. You make the choice if you wanna Live with the Essence of all Good our loving God or live separately from God where there is no Good without God!❤️✝️ He died for Sinners not rightouss come to him just the Way you are he will not fail you❤️ for God is Love

[@AdamsTaiwan]

Luke 12:4‭-‬5 says "...cast into hell..." Rev. 14:10‭-‬11 says those in hell will be in His wrathful presence.

[@michajansen6362]

​​ do you understand the context? God doesent send anybody to Hell he is the one who throw the people in the Place where they want to be a Eternal separation from God where there is no Love Joy Life and Peace for God himself is al 4! (Love 1 John 4:16) Joy (galatians 5:22) (Peace Isaiah 9:6) (Life John 5:26) People choose by Living this Life where they want to be if they want live how Jesus lived and they have Faith in him and showing it by Living Holy and Good they will be where they want to be where God is and have Eternal Life. But people who choose to live separately from God they will be at a place seperate from God! That means Eternal Death! God give us free WILL you make the choice if you wanna Live with and for God or without him.

[@michajansen6362]

​​@@AdamsTaiwanBro do you understand the context? God throws the people who wants to live seperately from him in the Place where there is no God! he is not sending anybody there! People make choices to choose to live for God or without God and against God. If people wanna live without God they wil be at a Place where there is no Joy Peace Love And Life for God himself is al 4! Joy (Galatians 5:22) Peace (Isaiah 6:9) Love (1 John 4:16) (Life John 5:26) You can choose to Live for God.Or against God! Galatians 5:19-21 NIV [19] The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; [20] idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions [21] and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. You will not be allowed to come in Heaven if you keep living unHoly. But the fruits of the spirit is Galatians 5:22-23 NIV [22] But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, [23] gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. ✝️❤️‍🔥 Jesus Christ loves you repent and choose him!🦁

[@michajansen6362]

​@@AdamsTaiwanJesus Christ came and died for Sinners My Brother God dont want anybody to go to Hell. Ezekiel 33:11 ESV [11] Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?❤️ Luke 5:31-32 ESV [31] And Jesus answered them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. [32] I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance.” Jesus died and came for Sinners so they can choose to repent from the evil Ways and turn to his loving kindness!✝️❤️‍🔥

[@tomw6271]

read Matthew 25

[@abelincoln.2064]

Nope. Justice & Love ar separate and are expressions of a Benevoluten ( Good ) person. Justice has to do with doing what is right, fair, reasonable, ethical & good when when making & enforcing rules & law. This is clearly not part of love but is part of being a benevoluent & Holy God who is all powerful, all present and all KNOWING. Correction. Hell was created bay a "just" God to punish sin (breaking the law) by Angels & Man. The punishment for sin by Angels is forever in Hell. But God will likely destroy Hell after Judgement day beause this would only be the "correct" thing to do as a Just & Holy God who loves all of His creation by hates sin. The punishment for sin by Man is death in Hell after 3 days. Hell can only destroy a sinful soul. And Mankind is born with a corrupt body but a perfect soul. However the MInd of Man .... is body & soul ... so when the body sins it will die on Earth and condemn the "perfect" soul to Hell. So your Mind transfers to the soul after the body dies ... and the soul remembers everything the body thought & died from conception as it is procreatd fully developed. And 3 days is the maximum any Human Being has lasted before sinning & finally dying (cease to exist). Jesus had to endure 3 days in Hell being tortured by Fallen Angels to sin ... but He remaind pure & sinless, fulfilled the 3 days that will kill any soul ... and therefore was resurrected spending 40 days in Jerusalem fulfilling Jonah ... before be raised to Heaven with a NEW body. Again. Only the body has been corrupted by the Fall of Man .... but .... Man is body & soul ...so if the body sins the Man (body & soul) must die. So however sinful our body is ... our soul remains perfect ... but it becomes our Mind when the body dies and is condemned to die in Hell. By Jesus become the Pure passover Lamb ..... our perfect soul is saved from going to Hell ( & sinning) .... ... and just like Jesus, we are given a new body and a Holy natue so that we can only think & do good. The question should be, "How can a just God not enforce the Law and not punish Law breakers? God didn't. God enforced the Law for sin by Man ... by becoming the sin sacrifice ....that will satisfy His just nature. And God so loved His creation that He sent His only begotten Son, so that none will perish but have everlasting life through simple faith & belief in God.

[@deanfry879]

You say some thing I agree with and some I am not sure I follow. It says of the Lake of Fire that they will be tormented forever and ever (Revelation 20:10), and later says death and Hades will also be thrown there (Revelation 20:14-15). Jesus showed His scars to the disciples, which makes it sound like He got a healed body, not a new one. You also left me questioning if you think Jesus had a corrupted body like every other human, or if His body was and remained pure. Considering Jesus's emphasis on sin being committed in the heart, I will need more convincing that the body corrupts the soul rather than the soul corrupting the body. Jesus did indeed provide for salvation by His sacrifice.

[@AdamsTaiwan]

Jesus finished the work on the cross when He said "It is Finished". He did not suffer in hell, but just made a quick visit to proclaim victory before waited for the thief in paradise that very day. According to Col. 2:13-15 (read context), Jesus satisfied the righteous demands of the law. Luke 12:4‭-‬5 says "...cast into hell..." Rev. 14:10‭-‬11 says those in hell will be in His wrathful presence forever.

[@JamesEzell]

Omg the way this person has to twist backwards to answer the question. You people are sick.

[@fanman6568]

I’m just gonna say it. But I really think people should stop teaching that “God is all loving”. Because that contradicts the scriptures. It’s better to say God is love, but not all loving. He is loved towards his sheep, the believers, but not towards the wicked. There are incident where God does hate the wicked people. “As it written, Jacob I loved, Esau I hated.” “you hate all workers of iniquity. You destroy those who speak falsehood. God Abhors the man of bloodshed and deceit.” Psalm 5. And also God does send people to hell. If you say you send yourself to hell you’re implying that you a sinner have authority over your life and not God. “Fear, the One who, after He had killed, had authority to cast into hell. I tell you fear Him. Luke 12: 5. yes, God is the one who sends people to hell. Also, the argument that he was only meant for Satan and the angels, but enough for men is kinda dumb. If anything, Jesus would give a threat. When people heard that I bet they were like “wait the fire is for the angels that chose to sin? So that means we’re gonna be cast there as well because we have sinned.”. The final thing I wanna say is the adult question why doesn’t God save everyone? Well, “On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? Will the thing molded say to the molder, “Why did you make me like this”? Or does not the potter have authority over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? And what if God, wanting to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath having been prepared for destruction, and in order that He might make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory.” Romans‬ ‭9‬:‭20‬-‭23‬‬‬. Look, the only reason why people don’t fully come to Christ is because God did not predestinate them to come to Christ. If you want to save everybody, then everyone will be saved. Because God is in the heaven and he does whatever he wants. Now people go to Peter 3: 9 to prove that God wants everybody to save, but they read all of second Peter, they’ll realize that it’s referring to the sheep. God desires for all of the sheep to come to repentance, not every single human being. To put a simply Calvinism is objectively true because the scripture said so. I believe this not because I want to, but because it’s what the scripture says. The reason why people don’t like teach this stuff is because it’s offensive. People Want to think that we’re better than God. Whenever people teach “you decide for your salvation”. What you’re really saying is “you have control over your life, not God.” When you teach God is trying to save everyone you make God look like a failure and weak. you make him seem like a failure and not all powerful.

[@mikehamilton7668]

Very well said. But, prepare for the flack! People refuse to give God the authority He deserves. What you're talking about is the "solid food", and so very few get past the "milk. I've been studying Romans 8 & 9 for about the past year. Have you ever looked at the Greek words used for "prepared" in Romans 9:22-23? They are different in each usage! In verse 22 it implies that the "preparing" is being done by those perishing, while in verse 23 it is God doing the preparing. And in fact, in verse 23 it specially says "whom He prepared in advance for Glory". When answering the inevitable critics to God's sovereign election, remember this quote (by either Pascal or Rousseau), "In the beginning God created man in His own image, and man has been trying to repay the favor ever since”

[@wdwtx2.0]

A loving God will sadly allow someone to determine their own fate.

[@walker3808]

That is funny I find no love in God, only a self righteous spirit calling us all sinners worthy of hell For example: 1: family's. God will be taking a holy sword to each of your marriages with a loving smile on his face, after he sexually uses you for procreation he makes you like the angels in heaven neither married or given in marriage. He says so dead is your love for your mate, a widow can remarry for I give you all shit and I love it for my kingdom holds no marriage so bend over and breed saith the Lord of love and build my holy kingdom in holy sacrament marriage. 2: the Cross: here we have a self righteous God smiling at us sinners saying Jesus needed to be beaten like a dog and sacrificed after I make him beg like a dog to not have the cross for I am love, I laugh on high only I am good and holy and no matter your state of mind no one can be good like me for I am sin and the God of it and I call satan God of this world. I loved nailing my son up full of holy glory shouting only a GOd can kill himself and rise and yoke love from everyone as they all say for me as my grace is sufficient. God is not love. He destroys love and curses everyone to be like the angels after he breeds you like lovely cattle as God smiles on high on his heavenly no marriage in heaven throne and his gift of grace making his son beg like a dog to not have the cross and smiling at us like a holy moron only God is good.