Gotway/BEGODE EX Vs EXN ❌ Why do you want a heavy wheel?

[@ZuberB4]

So, in order to keep the price down,: We need a wheel with some dead weight inside. You get the stability without the price. Or even better, switch to lower energy density batteries. Extra weight for same capacity and even lower cost.

[@MADpack]

Definitley something that brands could think about but if you drop in batteries and you increase in weight you have a problem like some people that are to heavy for certain wheels

[@ZenLee]

thanks for the content! so excited to try it.

[@MADpack]

Which one bro?

[@ZenLee]

@@MADpack both, but if I had to choose one, the Ex. My knees like the suspension.

[@MADpack]

Definitley is been an amazing experience and the best suspention for my needs until now

[@ThaBlackCobra]

Great job riding in the snow and not getting hurt Bro... LOL. I agree that these larger battery heavier wheels are going to be the standard from now on. I think 100 V and 2700 wh battery are a great thing and really make it more secure as far as cut offs are concerned. I really enjoyed riding the EX and I am sure I will enjoy riding the EXN as well.

[@MADpack]

They are completley different wheels when more i ride the ex more I think thats the wheel for big boys like you

[@arcrides6841]

There's a guy called "isthereanyfood" who rides in the snow everyday with no helmet. I always wonder what the people think when they see him. Even here when I ride my EUC with full gear they think it's crazy.

[@Duf]

Good talking points. I don't agree that a $3600 USD wheel can be the new standard for any EUC company. Heavy wheels are definitely more stable at speed but also less nimble and responsive as you noted. I think the MSP/MSX size factor and price point are where the majority of the masses wind up.

[@MADpack]

You are talking about the prices and the lack of nimbleness of the EX.. i was talking about the EXN. thank yoi for your message bro

[@Rocksaplenty]

dang that's a wild price

[@MADpack]

If you put side by sids the price of a exn and rs is worth it to pay the diffence. More 400 and you have a better construction solution and more 900mah battery

[@Rocksaplenty]

@@MADpack The prices must be lower in the USA, or something.

[@MADpack]

Im in the uk check my supplier if you live outside the uk no vat and 5% off

[@416-Toronto]

I think you should slow down when your passing so close to little kids on snow/ice with your super heavy wheel. What would happen if the wheel's motherboard died when you were doing 30-40 kph while 10-20 feet behind a little kid? Don't find out.

[@MADpack]

Hi there thank you so much for your comment but would like to explain to you the beauty behind my videos.. This is filmed with a 360 camera making the roads people and object much closer to each other and also it seems that I go much faster than I'm going in reality. Hope that this answer you. Big hugs.

[@416-Toronto]

@@MADpack Thanks for the reply. We all know about 360 cameras. Slow down when you are passing pedestrians, especially ones that weigh less than your wheel.

[@Bryzle1]

Gotta agree with you. Makes us all look bad.

[@brettstarrett3063]

@@416-Toronto Bunch of sally's

[@Ukreefside]

Great content. You were Flying on those snowy paths !! Mad man !😀 much love from the south east uk!

[@MADpack]

Thank you so mych my friend. Appy yhat you liked the video and the format :)

[@MGSSnakeEater100]

Weight, price, and performance is important to me. I like the weight of the MSX/MSP/RS, because you can lift it with one hand and it's challenging to keep it stable when riding. And it doesn't cost has much (but still expensive). 😎

[@MADpack]

I will make a video that I will put the exn next to the msp i think that is not worth it for the benefit that ghe exn brings

[@MGSSnakeEater100]

@@MADpack I'm looking forward to it 😎👍

[@MADpack]

Thank you for your feedback :)

[@arcrides6841]

Because a heavy wheel brings down the Centre of Mass of the EUC+Rider system. The lower the centre of mass the more stable the system becomes. For straight line speed but especially through corners. Think Formula 1. The Sherman is amazingly stable for cornering. Like a motorcycle. Stable enough that I feel comfortable practicing long power slides on it. But when I try the same on my 16x it feels completely wrong. Like I'm gonna fall off every time. The 16x is a flimsy toy in comparison.

[@liv2runrun2liv]

Weight is an important factor in buying a car and especially a motorbike. For off-road a light wheel is way more nimble and goes over obstacles better.

[@MADpack]

Im talking about high performances high speeds.. In off road is normal that a high speed is up to 40-45kph... So agree with you but you miss the all idea of the video ;)

[@Bryzle1]

You are more brave than than me. Rode once in snow about 10’ before falling on my tail. That ended my desire real quick.

[@MADpack]

Ahahah i have to the euc is my only veicule

[@oldretireddude]

I think that single wheel wobble has to have some physics connection to death wobble in 4 wheeled vehicles. It has to be tied to initial side force (hitting a bump), freedom of movement (worn components/leg strength), and caster (the steering angle/peddle angle). Or maybe more closely to a shopping cart caster wheel, since our legs are not connected at the center of our feet. I wish someone could professionally analyze this issue for the EUC community. We need a graduate level college student to do their master's thesis on this😁.

[@MADpack]

Lol obviously is a skill that we develop but when the weight of a wheel help you to be more in control i belive is something that we need to consider about

[@oldretireddude]

@@MADpack in the world if physics the higher the mass the higher the force needs to be to set off the oscillation.

[@MADpack]

Definitley ;)

[@arcrides6841]

As a MechEng honours grad I can chime in on this. It does have many connections with 4 wheeled vehicles but also has many major differences. On our EUCs our legs act as the steering column and the damper system simultaneously. This means that there is very little that can be done to mitigate these things compared to with cars and motorcycles. And the fact that there's only one wheel means all of the forces are focused to one point. This is both good and bad. Bad in the sense that there are less contact points. Good in the sense that there are no torques (i.e. moments) on the vehicle created as a result of going through road irregularities. For example when you ride over a bump on a bicycle there will be front to back rocking of the vehicle that will reduce stability. With 4 wheels there will be front to back and side to side rocking of the vehicle. Where the car can even flip on its side. That rocking is a result of the torque (moment) that I'm referring to. With an EUC there is ZERO torque on the system incurred by bumps/holes. It simply bounces up and down which is far better for stability. I uploaded a vid where I ride through a large hole at the beach at 60 km/h. The conclusion I would make is that wobbles on an EUC are mostly down to weight distribution and wheel profile. A symmetrically balanced wheel like the Sherman offers tremendous stability. And it has been said that the knobby tyre and road tyre offer different levels of stability with regard to wobbles. But the main conclusion I would draw is that rider skill is the number 1 factor. Since our legs must act as the steering column and the damping system (and the suspension in most cases) your skill level will by far be the biggest determinant of the final result. I used to get a couple of wobbles on my Sherman but now I don't get any. Even if I'm braking super hard.

[@big_petebear8535]

I was hoping the EXN would be a performance wheel (like the MSuper) but with better range. I have an RS-19 HS and Sherman. I'm a big guy (193cm tall and 113 kg) but I still have some trouble doing tight maneuvers on my Sherman without significant stress on my knees. Also at my weight It's hard to get a lot of distance out of an 1800wh wheel because I like to ride fast. It seems the EXN might be right in that sweet spot between weight and performance.

[@MADpack]

Definitley a wheel that can feet so many persons and necessities. Is definitley for me the most complete wheel from gotway but I will cover that in a future video

[@RicJG7]

I like your take on the weight. Like any wheel, it takes time to tame it before you can give the verdict. Good vid

[@MADpack]

Thank you to take the time to send me a message

[@chiarvettoretto6898]

I am a lover of heavy EUC but also not the most adventurous rider so my experience is probably limited and I ride slowly so no problems with breaking hard 😂

[@MADpack]

Ahahah even my wife love heavy wheels she is only 54kg and between the 2 she likes more the ex

[@kevinlove4930]

You think that I could put the Masters motherboard in my EX and it would be as fast as the Master

[@MADpack]

Let me know what happens

[@kevinlove4930]

@@MADpack I'm. Asking you because you are the professional.... Lol.

[@MADpack]

I just test what they produce bro I don’t know what will happen if you manage to put everything working. But remember you don’t have pack is battery that can andar that kind of power so I will not play around it it

[@Ronin_Ryder]

when i break hard on the sherman i can make it wobble... so heavy wheels arent exempt i guess..Great video!

[@MADpack]

Obviously all wheels can wobble but if you put the same speed preasure on your legs in a heavier wheel that wobble is not pronounce or smaller in a heavier wheel that a light wheel

[@arcrides6841]

Me too I can make it wobble. But if I want I can also brake super hard with zero wobble. That's what matters. Not the fact that you CAN make it wobble.

[@MADpack]

Thats the thing sometimes you want just to break and for more thanlt you try the wheel continue to wobble only pushing the wheel to the side you are able to stop it

[@Ronin_Ryder]

@@arcrides6841 well u are lucky cause it wobbles all the time for me if i break hard🤷🏻‍♂️

[@arcrides6841]

@@Ronin_Ryder Maybe it's your tyre. Lots of these knobby sherman tyres are completely unsymmetrical.

[@wojciechego6]

Which wheel would you recommend for hard off roading after MSX?

[@MADpack]

In with way?

[@wojciechego6]

​@@MADpackForest, rocks, jumps, uphill, downhill, mud. Those that can reach road speeds of over 60 kph and range no less than 50km. ;)

[@MADpack]

Easy EXN but changing the tire..

[@wojciechego6]

​@@MADpack I wanna try jump on bicycle jumps. What do You think about a SHERMAN and MSP for this?

[@frederickoparah1669]

Heya please consider addressing the fire issues with gotway before doing reviews on these wheels, it is important that people stop buying. I wanted to purchase the v3 and the exn but not now. Where is the official statement from begode gotway regard this and what they are go to do moving forward?

[@MADpack]

Thank you to share that and i will be addressing that in a future video where I talk a bit more about this wheels. I blive that the fire issues are in the end a benefit for all of us and will make other brands also consider even more the safety of pur eucs

[@adhs.store.]

What would you say is the edge over the RS HT, apart from battery? Stability?

[@MADpack]

Better construction, better sound and muchhhhhhh better waterproofing not comparible

[@dn5132]

You mean the RS have better waterproof than de exn?

[@MADpack]

Nope RS IS ONE OF THE WORST WATERPROOFING WHEELS ON THE MARKET

[@dn5132]

@@MADpack damn so fast to answer :)! Realy appreciate, merci from France

[@MADpack]

I try my best bro and try to answer to every single message :)

[@BigNatorStrength]

I def want to get an Ex but all the random fires got me fucked up. I don't want a non suspension wheel because my back is jacked from a car accident lol. And the S18 looks amazing but that's it. The V11 looks great but not enough power and distance or it would be ideal.

[@MADpack]

What is your weight?

[@BigNatorStrength]

@@MADpack injuries and age combined with covid lol im unfortunately 210lbs i should be closer to 175 hope to be there by the time i get the wheel bought and finally received

[@MADpack]

Hope you lose weight is important for your health and also for your safety :)

[@arcrides6841]

I think getting "fucked up" is a very smart move. Even if there is no fire do you really want to have this thought in the back of your mind every time you go to sleep. Thinking........... "I wonder if I'm the lucky customer for this month"

[@vidprince]

FINALLY. A video on the exn

[@MADpack]

I will be doing more videos

[@WeirdEarRaub]

Wait a sec - my Sherman didn’t come with ANY caviars! 😂

[@WeirdEarRaub]

I assume you meant Caveat and maybe even said it, but your accent makes it sound like caviar, which would be awesome if some came with the Sherman!

[@MADpack]

Ahahah you made me laugh... Check the bottom of the box maybe is there bahaha

[@WeirdEarRaub]

@@MADpack nope, not there - maybe in the wheel well somewhere...

[@arcrides6841]

Version 2 will come with caviar. That stuff takes some time to prepare.

[@NecPachi]

What do you think about the Sai pads ?

[@MADpack]

This ones or saipads in general?

[@NecPachi]

This ones, Im about to buy the same ones for my v11.

[@MADpack]

Definitley not my favourites

[@AfeezKayeRIDES]

Go go go Marco 👍🏼😁

[@MADpack]

Thank you my friend

[@jamalmodica3286]

Im waiting on my EXN to arrive!

[@MADpack]

You will simply love it

[@jamalmodica3286]

@@MADpack I hope so, I have been riding my gen 1 monster for almost 4 years now! So I'm ready for the next level. Im Looking forward to more videos from you!

[@MADpack]

Monster and exn completely different wheels. If you were coming from a msx or msp yes you will feel that is an upgrade but i think you are comparing a rangerover with a porche if it makes sense

[@jamalmodica3286]

@@MADpack the gen 1 monster that I got 4 years ago, has a 1600 motor and a 1600 battery, lol I love this thing, I never crashed it so it's in great shape, but it's performance is not thrilling anymore the exn is a 2800 motor and a 2700 battery, im expecting it to be the next level wheel I'm dreaming about.

[@MADpack]

It is one of the best wheels i ride so far. Using more the EX for the road conditions and really bad roads that I normally do.. Like now done 8.5miles in 15minutes and with roads full of holes and inregularities.. The fastest wheel that I use but is a bit to heavy for my weight i belive. The exn will be a wheel much more responsive nimble but less cushy than your monster

[@jamalmodica3286]

great video thanks!

[@MADpack]

Thank you for your message

[@IgoteverySystem]

Where can I order the begode ?

[@MADpack]

I belivw eveeything is stopped because of the even.

[@IgoteverySystem]

@@MADpack I don’t understand what you wrote .

[@IgoteverySystem]

Does any one know how and where I can order the Ex

[@MADpack]

Lol sorry i don't know what happened. Ahahahah. I believe J was sleeping. Is impossible to order at the moment with trusted distributors

[@FrenchFighter01]

performance doesn't mean speed and power. Performance is how well the product "performs"...you have it all wrong I think. Begode has it all wrong. keep making bigger, heavier wheels with more power and more battery without even increasing the range because it uses so much battery...A EUC is something that should be easily transportable, when it becomes the weight of a motorcycle it loses it's purpose. I want lighter wheels that have an optimised shape, more confort, better riding experience more range per WH, more security, redundancy, water proofing, better materials and components etc...

[@MADpack]

I understand you but you need to try them all to understand what I'm saying. You have more range in these wheels than in previous and like I said if you want performance you need weight to get a more stable wheel that's for sure. One of the big reasons why the Sherman is so popular is the stability that delivers.. And that comes with the weight of the wheel. Try first properly and you will not want to ride light ways anymore only for small trips to a supermarket like i use my v8f

[@FrenchFighter01]

@@MADpack I own a KS18L, ACM and MSP...I did try the Sherman. Yes heavier gives more stability and more power...But once again, that's not the only thing for a EUC...Yeah the Sherman is cool but it's so heavy you can barely lift it and it's really not nimble at all. I use my MSP for long rides where I will go fast but for all the rest I wouldn't trade my KS18L for anything. Not everyone wants to ride for over 6 hours or ride at over 60km/h...

[@MADpack]

Cool bro I own s18, v11, msp, v8f, z10, just sold my 16x after 2200km.. Im riding the ex and exn for the last month, test nikola, rs and sherman I belive I have a good amount of experience with all kind of wheels. Just going on top of a wheel for a couple of meters is not testing a wheel. If you see my first video about the ex i thought it was a terrible wheel amd o regreat what i said. Not saying that your point is not valid but you are only thinking in you not in the general market. The ex is super nimble as much as a msp but better construction waterproofing increased better range etc.. You cant ask for performance and expect that the weight of the wheel continue low. Ot doesn't make any sense so sorry I believe you missed the point on this video bro. I respect your opiniao and happy that you are happy with you ks.. But that shows me that you are not a fast rider so this makes no sense and i understand

[@FrenchFighter01]

@@MADpack well I like my MSP too and riding between 40 and 50 I would call myself a fast rider. riding at more than 50kph is unreasonable in my opinion. you speak of general market, I speak of general interest, and I don't think making EUC's that go always faster will be good in many countries like France where it will only get EUC's banned all together.

[@MADpack]

Can i ask you something? You have a car correct? If you have do you ride with it at maximum speed?

[@ZeroxTechnic]

Hi there, Just to let you know, but it should be "Why do you want a heavy wheel?" You are missing the "do" :)

[@MADpack]

Thank you so much bro

[@chiarvettoretto6898]

Lol, thought the same 😂

[@arcrides6841]

Yeah I know that 1 word changes everything 😂😂

[@MADpack]

Ahahah

[@adamszitas9298]

I hope they never become standard, it just feels like trying to justify these ridiculous weights EUCs became.

[@MADpack]

Hi adam. You need to ride between them and have them in your hand to be able to say what you are saying. Big hugs bro

[@arcrides6841]

@@MADpack Asolutely Correct!!! But you have to ride them both a lot. Not just a quick test. At least 500km for best analysis. For example when I received my Sherman I hated it. I'm 140lb. I wanted to return it. I loved my 16x. But then my 16x tyre went flat and I had no choice but to ride the Sherman. Now I have over 5000km on the Sherman and I LOVE this wheel. And now I hate the 16x. Feels too light now. Like a plastic toy. It's amazing how the feel of the wheels changes with more riding time. But like I said you need at least 500km to adapt the muscle memory ect.

[@MADpack]

Thats true but also like is true that when more wheels you ride is like riding more and more cars you adjust must faster