'Government will be found guilty in Stilfontein lawsuits'

[@mariahkamogelomoloisane6276]

7:24 The right to life in the South African Constitution is not absolute. According to Section 36 of the Bill of Rights, the rights in the Constitution can be limited. This means that while everyone has the right to life, there are circumstances under which this right can be restricted. Section 36, known as the Limitation Clause, allows for the limitation of rights in order to achieve a balance between individual rights and the interests of society. In this case the South African society is gatvol

[@angrysocialjusticewarrior]

I agree. This is why people are now preferring to get their news from podcasts and influencers. Mainstream media is busy ignoring our viewpoints and busy brining in these small groups we've never even heard of before.

[@act1scene2theatrecompany-yr7wd]

The objectivity of this Sibanda(zim) and this Pali(lesotho) guy is not guaranteed as both their countrymen are heavily involved in this crime. Why expect them to say anything different from what they saying? Its even worse when once of the people interviewed talks of cardinal sin being committed by government not the illegal miners. Organised crime is a problem in SA these are the worst people to interview considering the issue at hand.

[@ThandiweGulwa]

They are speaking for their homeboys . WHO brought them there in the first place.

[@bathenebuthelezi1614]

How ridiculous that is. Their countrymen came here illegally and committed a crime. And now they think they can sue our government!!!!

[@maurice6827]

Seriously? Pali Lehohla may have been born in Lesotho but he is a South African citizen and served with distinction in our post apartheid government as head of StatsSA. You really think that he is saying what he is saying because he is 'representing' Basotho? Come on!

[@agnesskosana4097]

for criminal that where stealing our gold . their government must take responsibility

[@JabuArgeeMtsweni]

No this nonsense we are hold hostage by this

[@elkaydivine]

No law says government must provide food to criminals in the crime scene

[@evelyngadinabokao7615]

Our media made me hate TV. Selective biased report.

[@eskrywer2759]

They must prove without a reasonable doubt that those bodies did not die long before the operation killed by kingpin or by falling or injuries.

[@Power-of-your-brain]

Eix you got a valid point here

[@MeshackNwashe]

Some times I don't want to listen to this nonsense

[@Power-of-your-brain]

M2

[@dabsmazomba8951]

By who Mosambique or Zim court of law???

[@NtombifuthiMabusela-qw8uh]

​@@thefairobserver97do they know law those zamazamas? 1st they entered the country illegal they went do illegal mining where was law to them. Don't forget they terrorize ppl leaving around the mines

[@angrysocialjusticewarrior]

@@thefairobserver97 You should consider reading the constitution you are trying to refer to. That right has limitations and those limitations are listed in that same constitution. There is a misconception that the SA constitution is an entitlement to a lack of responsibility by citizens.

[@angrysocialjusticewarrior]

@@thefairobserver97 You actually don't need to listen to those you agree with or disagree with. The South African constitution is freely available in pdf format on the national gov website. You can read it yourself and see for yourself.

[@ephraimmutsika4168]

The law is clear in that it prohibits illegal migration and the starvation of offenders. However, the context of Stilfontein reveals a systemic failure on multiple fronts: Government Negligence: The government's failure to prevent illegal immigration, enforce mine closures, and address the issue of "zama zamas" (illegal miners) created an environment where desperate individuals were driven to dangerous and illegal activities. Irresponsible Actions: Starving the zama zamas, regardless of their legal status, is an irresponsible and inhumane act. It violates basic human rights and potentially constitutes a war crime. Genocidal Implications: Closing exit points, effectively trapping the miners, can be seen as a form of genocide, as it intentionally inflicts conditions of life calculated to bring about the destruction of a group. These actions, while perhaps intended to address illegal mining, raise serious legal and ethical questions. The rule of law must be applied judiciously and with respect for human life and dignity. The events in Stilfontein highlight the need for a more comprehensive and humane approach to addressing illegal mining and migration, one that prioritizes prevention, addresses the root causes of these issues, and respects the rights of all individuals.

[@laurencemakgabo1766]

If it is legal in Zimbabwe it doesn't mean that it is legal in South Africa, Sibanda is talking nonsense

[@PumlaNzima]

Futhi lelikwere akahambe ayokhuluma ezweni lakhe akasiyeke

[@mariahkamogelomoloisane6276]

15:20 This one hates South Africa with a passion, when is he going back home to rebuild Lesotho?

[@AlidaBikane-m6n]

😂😂😂

[@MeshackNwashe]

People are suffering in south Africa. You want money to be used for these illegal things

[@PumlaNzima]

Why are making your problems be SA haibo makwere

[@ThandiweGulwa]

He says the neighbouring countries build SA economy.

[@NtombifuthiMabusela-qw8uh]

​@@ThandiweGulwathey should go built their economy now. Tired of this thing that they built SA as if we were not there

[@nedor64]

"Government will be found guilty in Stilfontein lawsuits" What is the purpose of lawsuits against a government that cannot even abide by their own laws because of incompetency and negligence?

[@C54WAY]

You deserve what you vote for

[@musamsibi-sw8wx]

This Aldrian bloke loves these foreigners, he interviews them all the time, I wonder what’s up with him.

[@MeshackNwashe]

These south Africa professionals are not good for our country

[@NtombifuthiMabusela-qw8uh]

They are not staying where are this illegal ppl terrorizing people. They don't experience it first hand

[@NtombifuthiMabusela-qw8uh]

Why is government not suite for 3 lily mine workers that are still under ground? It's been suited for illegal miners

[@JabuArgeeMtsweni]

So thi zama zama must hold us South Africans hostage no this guy is taking such words maybe he does not understand himself or hi confused we pay taxes

[@bathusiketshabamang1229]

Total disrespect to the government by this media house 😢

[@mariahkamogelomoloisane6276]

18:41 I've been listening to this Zimbabwean for years and this is the first time he is talking sense.

[@laurencemakgabo1766]

We are allowing foreign nationals to discuss our affairs 😢

[@MeshackNwashe]

Who put them in the mining?

[@MeshackNwashe]

Legutla always cristisize the government every time

[@elijahthelightning.6704]

Pure nonsense

[@mamasmosoathu1364]

Can I ask if the law was applied accordingly where rescue team allowed 2 volunteers who aren't trained as mine rescuers and also carry bodies to go underground. Ask the crane owner why didn't he took his employees to go underground...If those 2 community leaders didn't volunteer to go underground who would have gone... NO ONE... What would we be talking about now if their lives were lost underground. A good risk measure of the situation underground is a kingpin that resurfaced and refused to go back when asked to go assist others to also resurface. Let us stop blaming one another. The Country is lacking resources already because of overpopulation and it wasn't easy for the Government to just release such lot's of money assisting people who are illegally in the Country and also committing crime at the mine. Only about 3% of those retrievef are South African's hence 12M was spent....Yerrrr... They won against South Africa... What fumes me is that these voices aren't heard when illegal miners terrorise the Communities... 😡 I JUST SEE POWER NJE FROM THOSE BLAMING GOVERNMENT...

[@WatsonMakwakwa-m8l]

Round of applause to these two doctors.....it shows that they are really doctors.....

[@mamasmosoathu1364]

@WatsonMakwakwa-m8l Indeed...South Africa has intellectuals who can challenge the Doctors...

[@hgfku-tn6hb]

No way for government to distance itself. They're in charge

[@elijahthelightning.6704]

Why are uniterviwing the loosers ,they are not ours ,both foreigners and have certain interests in our country.

[@PumlaNzima]

Ngathi labo bemhakwazi ukubopha Ramaphosa kweye phalaphala, Marikana nochithi skhathi senu ramza is above the law. Justice is captured

[@GabrielTladi]

Too much rights in our Banana Republic to the extend that when the Government fight crime it stand accused and get litigated by the same perpetrators instead of being arrested. With this kind of minds and analysis we must forget about Law and Order in this country... That's Democracy for us😂😂😂

[@AlidaBikane-m6n]

Ntate o tsoa ka hae ka Lesotho

[@velaphimthandeki]

Otswa leribe

[@ephraimmutsika4168]

🎀🎄

[@musamsibi-sw8wx]

Are these chaps both doctors?

[@HalinaLeonowicz]

The context is not mentioned to even median inclusivity of current government. The general level of crime, not addressed in any real ways for their time being in power is desplaying their true character 🫣🤔😴