Governments Are Suddenly Shutting Down The Internet - Here’s Why

[@leomugo7623]

I live in Kenya and around late June, we had large nationwide protests against a budget draft (Finance Bill) that proposed an increase in taxes that would’ve been eventually gobbled up by our corrupt politicians. So on June 25th, our parliament passed the Finance Bill after being told by citizens to reject it. Protestors got mad and invaded the Parliament building and soon after, the government teamed up with our largest network/internet provider to strangle the internet for a few hours. Right after the internet blackout, the Police went on a killing spree. After a few hours when tensions cooled down, the internet came back and our largest network provider (Safaricom) wrote a statement saying an “underwater sea cable” got damaged causing the internet blackout when in fact there was no evidence of the sea cable failure.

[@Xenomorph-hb4zf]

Ethiopia also shut down the internet in Tigray region for 2 straight years and in Amhara region for over 1 year now.

[@n.e.g.u.s]

One of my supervisors at work is from Nairobi and recently visited on vacation for a month. She told me many people were displaced by rapid flooding due to heavy rainfall and many others perished. I can only imagine how mismanagement of emergency response resources, personnel, etc. will be covered up next time a natural disaster strikes and internet access is severely limited or completely blocked because the government decided to use that technological outage as a way to disguise their corruption.

[@shahidakhanam3449]

Bangladesh Ict minister said the satellite got damaged via heavy rain

[@scotthenry3401]

Maybe the theory of satilites being fake is true, and all they actually are is high altitude balloons.... a balloon may be affected by rain but a satilite shouldnt be affected by rain, the signal may be but not the satilite...

[@josh-rz3uq]

That's terrifying. I hope you're safe.

[@rebelrog]

What governments call "censoring misinformation" most people call "silencing the truth".

[@kovy689]

The Orwellian nightmare.

[@joesterling4299]

Most recently and alarmingly, in the UK, where people are losing their freedom because of what they have posted.

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

Given America's January 6th, 2021, I can't fully agree with that but I understand the sentiment. Regardless of the matter though, I don't agree with shutting the internet down. Maybe that might work on countries that are more agricultural or have a lot of factories that don't rely on the internet, but the U.S. no longer focuses on these. Online business is a heavy part of the whole country. Shut it down and that's pretty much saying you have no problem with the entire country failing, and I don't see how that helps the government. That's the real kind of action that would incite a mob or inspire more assassinations.

[@rebelrog]

@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Respectfully, you seem to be missing the point. It's not about business, or what's best for a government, it's about freedom of speech for the people. Even speech that is unpopular or viewed by some as "misinformation" or even "hate". Rather people agree with what's being said or not, freedom of speech is extremely important to keep.

[@laststand6420]

The term "Misinformation" is so slimy. It could mean literally any information you don't like, as opposed to "Lies" which only applies to things that are untrue.

[@allnamesaretakenful]

No Government should have the ability to shut down the Internet

[@johnharrison2511]

Well said 🙋

[@trod5902]

your profile picture is the palestinian flag right? they are completely authoritarian. the exact kind of government who would love to shut down the internet. its quite funny you support them.

[@nikolaideianov5092]

Yep As per other comments this has directly killed many people (altho i assume they stoped calling too,not only internet )

[@Rosskles]

It should be considered a vital service like power and water and therefore a crime against humanity to restrict.

[@douglasnewman4163]

But THEY DO have that power!

[@rumplstiltztinkerstein]

Its wild how governments can just say "Its for your own good" and that gives them permission to do anything.

[@minemasterSAM]

“Because I said so”

[@OrbitalVibes]

American goverment will MOST LIKELY turn on MASSIVE SURVELILANCE OPERATIOON TO SPY & CONTROL ALL INTERNET USERS IN AMERICA! BE CAUTIOUS IF such "Internet black out" will happen without blacking out / frying electronics in the area.

[@GhostSamaritan]

"You voted for this" 💀

[@chunkycornbread4773]

They can unfortunately but it’s most likely at their own peril.

[@Astrochimp88]

i mean.. that is as good as anything they could say, isn't it?? words have always been meaningless

[@Ali-wm7jy]

I live in Syria and trust me brother it's WAY worse than you mentioned. every high school exam for the last 5 years comes with a 3-4 hours complete telecommunication shut down. yes not only the internet but also mobile calls/sms as well, leaving only landlines working. as you can imagine there are countless disasters coming out of this unfathomably stupid decision, last month an old woman in my neighbourhood had a stroke at the time of the shut down, she lived alone with only a mobile phone and she was found barely alive by her family trying to call for help and survived with brain damage. car accidents in shut down times are 100 times more dangerous, you can't call a hospital or a friend and you just have to pray you see someone with a working vehicle who can take you to a hospital. this is to say nothing about all the people who work online in a country with complete economic collapse who will suffer because of this. and the worst part is that high school exams will still have cheating anyway as exam observers will actively help students or turn a blind eye on students cheating for financial or even sectarian reasons so it's all basically for nothing. i think people in positions of power know this. they don't care about cheating and to them this is just how an authoritarian government reminds the people who's really in charge.

[@ZoldicsDiaries]

We all know Internet was invented by DARPA and it was made public only to push interests of USA, specially through influence operations. No sane country would allow that interference . Partial censorship is utmost important .

[@stonks6451]

Holy shit

[@ibrahimkuyumcu2649]

Because of the revolutions against the government?

[@ImBitcoinBaby]

govts can become so corrupt I feel for you brother

[@coloradokid8321]

This is so stupid, and just proves it’s all about control! There are devices that can be installed in buildings that will BLOCK cell phone signals from getting through! With no cell phone signal, there is no internet (other than the wifi within the school building, which can be TURNED OFF).

[@aisanreis]

I was an exchange student in Turkey in 2016, and I can confirm that after every terrorist attack, access to major social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter was blocked. I was there for about six months, and this pattern occurred repeatedly.

[@OverAndOverAndOver]

US has their fingers all through Turkey. Not shocked, just disappointed....

[@hAckAbleMe]

Even in 2016 they could shut it down?? Wow. That's mass censorship for sure. 🤐

[@alosreal]

as a teen in turkey this sucks. im convinced they will shut down youtube one day

[@phreak761]

​@@alosrealThey will.

[@masfiqreza1163]

I live in Bangladesh , and its way more dangerous than you describe. Thousands of business, people's career, company's offshore client destroyed just like that. Part of reason why people come in street and take down the government.

[@maxz69]

Has there been a change of government?

[@MITOriginal]

​@@maxz69Yeah...

[@EL14840]

​@@maxz69yes, the whole cabinet fell

[@masfiqreza1163]

@@maxz69 yep. there is

[@Redwan777]

My friend was a freelancer. He did that alongside his studies. The internet shutdown completely destroyed his career and he lost all his investments.

[@liberty-matrix]

“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.” ~ Frank Zappa

[@metakron]

Cyberpunk be like

[@pizza-pi]

@@metakron reality be like

[@CrazyKevin22]

Not even the most pessimistic dystopian novels could’ve predicted today’s world. That’s how bad it has gotten

[@amirmohamad2270]

My dude my government, here in Iran, has not only limited access to the internet to a ridiculous degree (apps such as Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, telegram, WhatsApp, KZbin are inaccessible without VPN), but also have cut access to the internet completely multiple times in recent years. You don't need an episode of black mirror to imagine this. It's already happening.

[@anjunadeep.8384]

Ya, thats because they dont want colour revolution in iran 😅

[@zacboyles1396]

@@anjunadeep.8384yeah, my OP friend here doesn’t realize every app mentioned is part of the Western military tools used to overthrow their government. I’m not saying they should be censored but at the same time, I’m not going to act like it’s cut and dry. This made even more hypocritical when the western governments now rush to ban, censor, and silence internet activity that goes against imperial messaging.

[@mudemmeonick]

And the western lefwingers will say the government doing such things is a good thing because it's the government, it can be trusted and wouldn't do anything that's not for society's good. These videos are nice, but the masses are already so controlled and ingrained with propaganda nothing will change. We're in for some fun times ahead. Buckle up my Iranian friend. Good luck!

[@aaad3552]

Where are the people rio, ting for this?

[@mudemmeonick]

@@aaad3552 People don't even realize how much they're already being censored. Yesterday I left a reply here about how in western countries some people were glad this was happening. My comment was deleted. Maybe some trigger word, I don't know. Just take notice that even here, on KZbin, you're cen-so-red realtime and big time.

[@ashrahman_]

If any government considers shutting down the internet a casual thing, remember in Bangladesh, a 15-year-old and quite powerful government was thrown out of power, shutting down the internet was one of the major causes.

[@n-hexane8271]

clearly it was because USA was involved.

[@dmystify1381]

thats...A Lie.

[@SHLofi07]

​@@dmystify1381where are u from?

[@kamikazilucas]

it was about quota reform mostly

[@roxaskinghearts]

Hey guys elon musk achieved it immortality thru cyborgs

[@xavi_6767]

1) The internet shutdown was not limited to Dhaka. it was enforced nationwide. 2) The death toll is significant. While the official figure provided by the Hasina government is approximately 230, estimates suggest that over 1300 individuals may have been killed. This figure includes both students and civilians who supported the student movement. These estimates are based on reports from hospitals and clinics. To put it into perspective, there were days when the death toll among students alone exceeded 100. Between August 4th - 6th, more than 300 individuals lost their lives, according to Prothom Alo, one of the most reputable news portals in Bangladesh. 3) The internet shutdown was implemented to suppress the protesters, not to prevent the spread of misinformation. In fact, it was the fascist Hasina government and its state-controlled media were spreading misinformation. Many of us were sharing videos of the government's egregious actions with international media outlets through social media and other means. Many journalists and reporters were also trying to bring global attention to these atrocities. The Hasina government believed that an internet shutdown would stop us, but they were mistaken.

[@1495978707]

Funny that. Funny how the people crying misinformation and calling for and justifying censorship are the actual fascists

[@gaeborg]

And guess what? They are still spreading misinfo. One example is them using old videos as Gopalgonj pro-awami league "protest". Not to mention PM's son Joy

[@danushairan]

I hope you guys have a better shot at this than us. Then maybe we learn something to do the same. This tactics is always used by Iranian regime. But regarding what you said: Misinformation can only be defeated with MORE speech. Any who reduce the speech, only do it for their own sake. Better live half body in mud but have freedom of speech than living in luxury without it.

[@maheshtamang6158]

This should be pinned!

[@ahmadjawadhassaan4462]

The strength and courage shown by Bangladeshi students is ineffable. My heart goes to all who died while fighting for their rights.

[@nawaz_haider]

As a student from Bangladesh, my team and I were sending documents and evidence to humanitarian organizations, human rights activists, and embassies during the protests to inform the world about what was happening. The internet shutdown really affected our efforts. Thank you for bringing up this important topic.

[@blackagent4754]

I love your country. Everyone treated me well. We are proud of the students for standing up for yourselves!

[@shahirabdullah5438]

Never imagined my favorite channel would create a video about my country. I still remember that day. 5th August. I walked 30 kilometers with my younger brother for justice. The whole week was crazy. I lost one of my university students. We didn't have internet for 6 days. I didn't even know if i would have my job. It was absolute crazy. In the end we won. And it was one of the greatest feelings in my life. We lost a lot of brave students. We will remember them as long as we breathe.

[@gouthamanush]

You haven’t won yet. Let’s see what the new government does and then we’ll know. All the best.

[@jaydevdave7369]

What about attacks on minorities.

[@CarletonTorpin]

Thank you for sharing this perspective.

[@Duke_Of_Havoc]

Wanna comment about the genocide of minority Hindus that's rampant along with these protests?

[@shahtayyib]

Wishing you strength and wellbeing my brother. In Shaa Allah you will be victorious

[@Luzgar]

Nothing should entirely rely on a single thing. That's the kind of lesson you learn the hard way but never forget.

[@Freakazoid12345]

Yeah, we were able to get by 50 years ago, without the internet.

[@Sekir80]

@@Freakazoid12345 Yes, we were, but not with the pace of today. I think this is the most important thing, the pace. Can we do it? Yes. Much, much slower.

[@RFDN0]

​@Freakazoid12345 the current infastructure of society is currently built with the premise that the internet is accessible. That is the fundemental difference between now and 50 years ago.

[@whois3581]

@@Sekir80 For all the good the internet has done, there's also clearly been an equal and opposite reaction. The dependency will bite again and again when people continue to forget how to do basic things ("slowly") because we've let the computers handle it all for so many years. Just like so many that don't even know how to read a map anymore because they've relied on GPS to just tell them where to go for so long. If and when a prolonged power outage pops off, things like that will leave people completely screwed.

[@Wilson84KS]

Yeah, like a handful of people owning the entire world. Welcome to capitalism, the ideology that is built on the delusions property and value of money.

[@cmwHisArtist]

I work out of my home office answering the phone 12 hours a day (9-9) for our family business. I have always insisted on hardwire wall phones in case the electricity goes off, then we would still have communication for work and emergencies. However, since our phones, internet, Wi-Fi and TV got bundled, we are at the mercy of one wire and one company. Last week our wire got pulled loose by our sewer contractors and we lost ALL our services because Frontier couldn’t get here for four days. The government wants us to go all electric, while at the same time warning us about solar flares and EMPs that can wreck all electronics. I don’t trust anything the government can turn off with a button. Now I have an extra $150 on my electric bill for FMCC and “combined public benefit charges”. $500 bill for 2 people. Don’t forget how supply and demand works for pricing.

[@Fleezblarp]

Shutting off the internet will surely keep people from being upset at the government. I can only speak for myself, but I am more likely to go outside and be angry if I can't leave angry comments on the internet. Pick your poison, Trudeau.

[@ho11owbone]

sounds like the internet is keeping people too complacent. maybe without the distractions on the internet we could actually make real changes.

[@osier769]

@@ho11owbone That's a valid argument, though a healthy balance of both would be ideal.

[@OSMTraining]

​@@ho11owboneor it could be a way for the government to control what news you hear and what you don't.

[@sir_prize_ma_the_farcar4547]

It's to stop the protesters from co-ordinating 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@sir_prize_ma_the_farcar4547]

Same thing has happened in my place a few year's ago.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kennethroth2823]

The problem is who determines what disinformation is. To governments disinformation is just information that goes against their narrative or propaganda. To other disinformation is just information about the government oppressing them. Freedom of information and speech is the only way.

[@RFDN0]

We then have the other extreme where lies and deceit are used by individuals for their own ends on unprecedented scales. It is a balancing act or regulation and freedom. That is the case in everything.

[@chrismay2298]

@@RFDN0 Learn to think critically and information is just that. You should be able to sort what is viable and what isn't instead of requiring superiors to do so.

[@chavzone]

@@RFDN0 If someone is unable to think for themselves, they are screwed. Learning a modicum of critical thinking is the answer, not having a dictator censor instead.

[@RFDN0]

@chrismay2298 Elderly, children are the normal ones who are effected by the extreme of no regulations preventing people from outright lying or being called out on it. Any form of news is already under threat as we are nearing the point where true real-time computer generated content can fool anyone. Events happening outside of your immediate area would be unable to ever be verified as fake or real. Online archives lose their credibility. Do you really want to go into how having no regulation at all for the internet can be a major issue?

[@MoiraWillenov]

Think for yourselves. Do not let others determine what you should hear. Do not be a sheep.

[@shakibulhoq940]

I am from Bangladesh and I am telling you a modern life can't go on without the internet. it definitely is a human right.

[@mywhorled]

Some of us were adults when the internet was created. It was wonderful before that time. Modernity being your caveat, maybe so.

[@goldbullet50]

That's why we need to resources in order to make modern life working without being dependent on the internet.

[@Taegreth]

The last thing you want is for the mainstream media / government to be the arbiter in deciding what's misinformation.

[@werechicken1969]

Thing is, we already know they do nothing but lie and twist the truth, ironically of they were the sole providers of information it would be the same as the government not providing any information.

[@seananon4893]

Thats what is going on in almost every western nation.

[@TheMysteryDriver]

@@seananon4893sucks for them

[@meb5205]

This is 2024's version of the 'Lügenpresse'. Anyone saying this 9 times out of 10 just wants to spout racist rethoric without any repurcussions.

[@mukkaar]

That's an incredibly stupid comment. You realize that alternative media is way worse when it comes to misinformation and bad takes? Not to mention most of these people still get their information from mainstream media that actually does the reporting and investigation.

[@Woodneye-mc5jt]

The world is becoming increasingly dystopian... Orwell did warn us tho.

[@Qnexus7]

and huxley

[@ProjectLDV]

We were raised by government schools who funded our “education” by stealing money from our parents who let it happen. Anyone surprised by this outcome was indeed properly “educated”

[@pleaseenteranamelol711]

the small hats are summoning their dark lord. Prepare for hellish suffering

[@pajeetsingh]

More like Brave New World than 1984.

[@cat12-b7i]

Maybe for developed countries, all sort of fake things are spread in WhatsApp in developing countries, people can't differentiate fact or fiction and react based on emotions, it's better to have such a killswitch in this case

[@shafaries19]

As a Bangladeshi living Australia, I can't explain what I felt when the internet shutdown just like that and stayed like that for 5 days. First day of shutdown : " literally everyone I knew , just gone. Out of reach" It's like most of my life just disappeared. Thank you for using this incident to make this video.

[@OverAndOverAndOver]

That's the point. Now that you know what can happen, find other ways to communicate that exclude the internet. It will only get worse, G.

[@Srindal4657]

The UK has an internet killswitch?!? Why wasn't any of us told!?!

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

There were pogroms there last week after all

[@ferdinandkraft857]

The switch was off during the broadcast.

[@fireaza]

Not being told is kinda the whole point.

[@MidWitPride]

Virtually all internet traffic goes through an ISP, so if the government can make those ISPs turn off their servers, they have a killswitch. Most countries have some kind of emergency powers act in place that according to varying legal criteria can seize control of the telecommunications. For an example in case of war or some other "crisis", exact requirements differing from country to country, but most countries have some legal capability to shut down the internet.

[@GG-zv9ku]

People have been saying it for years but they called them conspiracy. Until it is not….

[@AndromedaKai]

I'm from Kazakhstan, we had our internet shut down all over the country for a week or even more in 2022, when there were protests. The only information we could get came from the tv, and they did not say one word of the truth. We are very much a cashless country by now, and a lot of people were also left with no way to pay for anything. Had to break a piggy bank to buy some food. It was awful, many people died because they had no way of knowing where was safe or not, and the government still does it locally sometimes when there are any kinds of protests or the president visits an area.

[@voidstranded]

It was like two weeks rather than one but it felt like a whole month had passed

[@thesenate1844]

Cashless is a terrible system, while its sold as being convenient, the government having the ability to turn off your money is terrifying

[@ZoldicsDiaries]

We all know Internet was invented by DARPA and it was made public only to push interests of USA, specially through influence operations. No sane country would allow that interference . Partial censorship is utmost important .

[@corujariousa]

For the preppers: Go get a HAM Radio. Having "Internet Shutdown" laws makes things easier for authoritarian governments to act in such manner but, if the situation arises, any government can shutdown the internet with or without laws. Either by pure pressure on CEOs (government controls licenses) or by direct power of the telecom infrastructure. The government is a huge beast and when it becomes authoritarian, it also becomes ferocious.

[@Techpriest]

The problem with legislation is it goes out the window the second the people who want to shut down the Internet decide to shut down the Internet as they're the ones who control legislation.

[@MrStevemur]

The internet was originally designed to be difficult to censor, and as late as the 90's it would have been. But a few monopoly companies have taken it over. Not just the big telecoms, but the social network corporations. Only 30 years ago it was very different.

[@trillowl7836]

It would take the people in charge deciding to shut down and destroy independent (not starlink) internet providing satellites, independent board repairmen, computer scientists, and pirates to stop fixing and providing devices with operating systems, and those who host clandestine websites in nations who refuse censorship. This is a drastic and foreseeable future, but the fact that the 5 days without internet in Bangladesh without internet was the quickest any economy has plummeted in recent time should give them some ideas.

[@allangraham970]

Britain is cracking down a lot at the moment on social media. The laws in the UK do seem surprisingly harsh.

[@Stellar-Nucleosynthesis]

"You know that thing that allows people to talk freely and placates them? Yeah, that, take it away."

[@cyberxspeed]

Government shutting down the internet in the guise of "security" says a lot. Also, who decides what's "misinformation"? For all I know, anyone with power can decide those things psyopping the public.

[@Jonas-Seiler]

I know right? They should just shut it off for fun and never turn it back on, in fact every government should do that

[@autohmae]

It is for security, the security of those in power.

[@aberkae]

Microsoft just allegedly hacked orange man and blamed Iran for the war effort. 🤪

[@44R0Ndin]

Thankfully over here in the US we just shot down something that would have been the start to stuff like this happening. KOSA died before it could be put across the desk of the President to be signed into law. It was supposedly to prevent children from seeing explicit material, but the reality of it was that it was a bold-faced attempt to just require every single US citizen to age-verify (and do so in a way that gives away a lot more info than just your name and age), which can be (and likely would have been) used to track a person's online activity to a level not seen before in the US. Every time you see "internet" and "think of the children" in the same discussion, let alone sentence, paragraph, or document, you should do a lot more digging to figure out what's really going on, because it's almost certainly true that "think of the children" is being used as a smokescreen to hide what they REALLY want to do to the internet, and it also has a track record of never being a good thing. I'm hopeful that we're more vigilant in the future against this kind of underhanded "play to the feelings" type of tactic when it comes to making the internet a less safe place for minorities and oppressed groups that use it, but I know that they're just gonna keep trying it.

[@mubashir7343]

Imagine the level of corruption and rot that’s gone so deep into the Govt. institutions that they have become afraid of the few words the public have to say !

[@kyrollos0208]

How can the public solve this problem?

[@thedudeabides3138]

I read your words….let them sink in and reflected….this is truly sobering.

[@celestial_s]

Revolution

[@autohmae]

So you are actually saying that it's less than in the past, because in the past they didn't give a damn.

[@Godofhel1]

Your comment seems so ironical to me, maybe it was intended to be The internet can be so manipulative such as this video right here, that you have watched 2 days ago, that it's better for all to shut down the internet rather than have your country go nowhere/under control of other "democratic" country because some internet minorities decided they can't live with their government anymore (e.g. Ukraine) You are blaming switching off the internet and maybe some lives getting ruined, maybe some deaths during the process, yet you haven't truly seen the other side of the medal By the way it's not corruption and rot, it's probably called some other way but we are not experts Let's just admit that we do not know what's happening, so let's not be puppets in other people's hands and just live OUR lives I think that would be much smarter

[@pranavagarwal779]

I'm surprised there wasn't a single mention of India and its internet shutdowns, especially since it leads the world in the number of such incidents.

[@markb3786]

And they are also doing a lot of the work for Putin and his misinformation campaign.

[@kuroshite]

I'm highly dependent on the internet and I've never seen any shutdowns. I found out about India being the capital because of your comment. The government sure censors the shit out of these issues so no one notices.

[@zendonreyland1298]

I've been a radio ham since 1995. Shut down the internet here in the US, and hams will put BBS networks and servers on the air almost immediately. There are already some that are on-air now and have been for years. Good luck to any goon squad that thinks they can sniff them all out and take them down..

[@awakened3651]

Promoting sponsors like 'Aura' is just advocating for yet another place on the internet that can get hacked just as any other site can be. It's a false sense of 'security'. You are essentially giving all your data to one place that *when* it does get hacked is all out in the ether and you paid a subscription fee to do it. 'Internet security' is an oxymoron.

[@cricticalthinking]

True that!

[@venoltar]

Also, how in the world is Aura and their competitors supposed to 'force' data traders to erase your data in the first place? Sure I can see it working for countries that actually have laws to that effect, but the data traders will simply move to different countries that don't enforce this and keep going. On top of that, for the few that do delete your data, many of them can simply reacquire it immediately afterwards(it is like having a bucket under an open tap, sure you make them empty the bucket occasionally, but the data is still flowing out of the tap). The whole thing comes across as an absurd to waste money to me.

[@the_curry_cruiser]

signed up, but it doesn't work. It's only for Americans that have social security number and a 5 digit zip code. Dropped the ball on this one @coldfusion

[@ZoldicsDiaries]

We all know Internet was invented by DARPA and it was made public only to push interests of USA, specially through influence operations. No sane country would allow that interference . Partial censorship is utmost important .

[@LathropLdST]

​@the_curry_cruiser Trusting a channel/ influencer and not reading the fine print, but hey, it's Coldfusion's fault, not your responsibility, yeah? 😂😂😂 Laughable.

[@TheYogaDen]

Anyone who thinks that making internet access a human right is going to ensure governments 'do the right thing' needs to reexamine what happened around the world in 'free countries' in recent years.

[@saturationstation1446]

whats internet access going to do when the only way to be considered a human being is to win the birth lottery and be born well off. its mathematically and biologically impossible to work your way out of poverty in this system and culture. its literally designed to steal from those who need things and contribute to society to give to those who just want to take from and harm society. eurocentric culture can not be beneficial to the human species. it tries its hardest to make everyone understand that. the only people who are confused about it are the well off people because they just keep getting copiously rewarded for breathing air.

[@amitavmostafa3180]

It’s a start.

[@Jonas-Seiler]

The right thing would be to shut it down permanently

[@ZolaClyde]

⁠@@Jonas-SeilerToo late. You’d have go back in time, sabotage the development of TCP/IP in the ‘70s or its adoption by ARPANET in ‘83, after that the net and new netizens weren’t about to be stopped.

[@AT-os6nb]

@@Jonas-Seilerwhy the do you participate on it then??? hypocritical much?

[@zoekittenxvx5789]

Imagine shutting down the whole internet: Banks, Schools, Police, Hospitals, even people who use it for health reasons and teaching at home! They do need to think about it and work on it more.

[@Sammysapphira]

Cutting the internet to civilians should be a war crime similar to intentionally cutting off food and water supply. The internet should be a right in modern time due to how much depends on it.

[@Englishman999]

By your logic and given the number of addicts globally, most hardcore drugs should now be declared a Human Right! Also, war crimes can by definition only occur during times of war. People without food and water die. People without the Internet have to work harder to get what it is they need or want. Their reliance on the Internet is, in part, of their own making and can be undone to an extent. Lazy people, stupid people, will never do that and will instead become more dependent. All the while crying about how it is that 'they', the powers that be, are making it harder for them!

[@goldbullet50]

Maybe we should make modern life viable without the internet then? It's only a matter of time before you can't even buy food without an internet connection.

[@aaad3552]

​@@goldbullet50dependent on the internet is a good thing. We cant experience the be, nefits of the internet and not dependent too.

[@dylanamukanyaoke7015]

In Uganda, a nation in East Africa, internet shutdowns are common before, during, and after general elections. These shutdowns are often linked to concerns about electoral malpractice, as the current regime frequently uses its power to suppress dissent and control information. When the government learns of planned protests, it often disrupts internet access to hinder the organization of these movements and to prevent the dissemination of information about police actions, including the mistreatment of protesters, unlawful imprisonment, and the sudden and mysterious disappearance of outspoken individuals.

[@stanpatel9314]

Examples of internet shutdowns include: Egypt's 2011 internet shutdown during the Arab Spring protests Turkey's 2016 internet shutdown during a military coup attempt Iran's 2019 internet shutdown during protests over fuel price increases India's 2020 internet shutdown in Kashmir during protests over the region's autonomy

[@mmhthree]

2025: Nigeria is forever disconnected from the Internet due to high levels of worldwide fraud

[@AmorphousSouffle]

​@@mmhthreewhat fraud?

[@jer1776]

Taking away internet access is like taking away someones access to education, employment and ability to speak with friends and family. Sounds like a human rights violation.

[@Englishman999]

no, it's not like that at all. Access to education would not stop if there were no Internet. Employment opportunities would still exist without the Internet and speaking to friends and family.. well, if you think you can't do that without the Internet, I feel sorry for your loss.

[@Jonas-Seiler]

the internet shouldn’t be considered necessary for those things

[@goldbullet50]

That's why our education, employment and communication shouldn't rely on the internet. It didn't just couple decades ago. Why should it be that way now either? Nothing stops letter from arriving, landlines from working, machines from running, or books from being read, or teachers from educating. I for one would welcome education without having to do everything on a computer.

[@PrincipalAudio]

One of the major issues of making the Internet a human right, is that we would need governments to administer that. They would use it as a trojan horse for monitoring, tracking, tracing every single person with an Internet ID, and other such authoritarian things. I think the best solution is to have our right to free speech extended to every single aspect of reality, including the Internet, and have protections AGAINST government interference with our free speech on the Internet.

[@shotelco]

The so-called International "Human Rights Laws" have been proven to be a sham and a joke in the past...oh...9 Months. There is no such a thing as a "Law", if it can't *_Equitably and Fairly_* Enforced. Thus, these "International Laws" are nothing more than tools of Colonization.

[@tom.m]

They already do all that tho. If we got some protections along with it that would be an improvement.

[@217RockStar217]

Free speech only exist in the USA...

[@chrismay2298]

Governments don't give out rights. Crazy that people think that...

[@PrincipalAudio]

@@chrismay2298 Exactly. It's privileges that governments grant. Rights are claimed. A "right to the Internet" cannot exist without government granting free access to people, therefore it becomes a privilege and online access would very likely be tracked on the back end.

[@stevegreen2432]

I lived in China for 8 years, in Beijing. Even there, where it was fairly quiet politically at the time, the Internet got shut down if there were any "problems". I knew that XinJiang had many shut downs, but did not know it was for more than a year. Xin Jiang was the main trouble spot while I was there. Most Australians do not realise that there is some censorship of our internet, and that we can be shut down at any time.

[@subbasslines]

What could you do if digital currency and ID were in place? Who holds the government accountable for misinformation, lying, and deceiving the public?

[@richardscathouse]

Torches and pitchforks. Same as always 😅

[@bakdiabderrahmane8009]

In Algeria it all started in 2016 after multiple exams in the national final high schools exams got leaked (most likely a student who was given the questions by someone in the chain that are responsible for distributing the exams over the whole country), since then we had to deal with internet shut downs 5 days every year in the time of high school national finals, there has been some effort to fix the problem like blocking social media instead of the whole internet, but this is very costly in terms of economics, as someone who works at a tech company, 5 days of lost work and communication, does effect productivity, and try to scale not just in one company but the whole economy, it is extremely dangerous to let the government have this power over communication and economy.

[@seananon4893]

What type of Tech company is based in Algeria? Im curious.

[@AhaduReview]

in our country (Ethiopia)one region only🇪🇹🇪🇹🇪🇹it has been closed for a whole year and it is completely closed. It is surprising to see something like this these days.😢Even if it is open now, they can close it again, no one will argue for us

[@seananon4893]

@@AhaduReview Holy shit, sounds like something Elon would be interested in.

[@AhaduReview]

@@seananon4893 🤣 LoL

[@seananon4893]

@@AhaduReview Im serious, freedom of speech, and tossing up satalies

[@zuzuspetals9281]

Yep, this is going to happen everywhere. Governments designed the system to do this when they introduced the digital age, my first question when we went to buy our first cable tv, “What happens when we no longer have access to analog television?” The dude at Best Buy laughed at me. Not laughing now. What happens when the enemy shuts down your digital network?

[@Joe-ft4qm]

I like how you keep distinguishing between "authoritarian governments" and "western countries" as if the west somehow has trustworthy governments with fair laws and free media. It's a beautiful dream.

[@TurandSand]

Depends on what countries you compare now but i'd say "the west" has it the best in the world so far. Not that there isn't room to improve.

[@Joe-ft4qm]

@@TurandSand well every time he mentions "the West" he shows the UK... So......

[@christiansaravia7865]

@@Joe-ft4qmthe UK has it much better than lots of places

[@joesterling4299]

@@christiansaravia7865 Not anymore. Fundamental alarming changes have taken hold over the past week or two.

[@RD-io6sm]

@@TurandSand Best? Shit is rolling downhill like a tire packed full of bull excrement. Nobody I know is happy with how the government is treating things here in the US. It shows what their intentions are, yet we don't have the power to do much about it.

[@Jupa]

Just to be clear this isn’t the first time. They did this in 2018, when I visited. They were rioting about traffic safety. They almost killed our driver and destroyed our car, we had just arrived and didn’t unpack our bags before we heard that the driver was stabbed and car was totaled. I spent most of the trip without access to internet. It was actually kinda fascinating experience. Like the old days. Apart from not being able to FaceTime my GF it wasn’t too bad. It did feel Draconian, but then our driver was stabbed so it was a pretty wild time. Bangladesh deserves peace and prosperity now. It is a young country with a lot of potential and it seemingly values a lot of the modern principles that nations require. Prosperity is not only something they deserve, but it is necessary with their precarious environmental situation. It is a country I’ll be keeping a keen eye on business wise.

[@ZoldicsDiaries]

We all know Internet was invented by DARPA and it was made public only to push interests of USA, specially through influence operations. No sane country would allow that interference . Partial censorship is utmost important .

[@mwk1]

I just wanted to point out that India is also a country with the most DIT and other online scammers in the world...

[@Jupa]

@@mwk1 I'm not sure what DIT refers to but if you mean bots then yes, definitely. India overplayed their 'bot' hand as a result it's become quite pointless trying to distinguish between bot statements and actual Indian ones. That's their cross to bear however. If you think Fox News or MSNBC are bad, check out India. They have mastered the art of disinformation and political showbiz.

[@ZYTHI]

The ability of governments to shut down the internet is alarming, especially as a means of controlling information and suppressing dissent. It’s concerning to see how this power can be abused, as we’ve seen in various countries, including Bangladesh. The internet has become a lifeline for communication and information sharing, and any disruption can have devastating effects on society. We need to stand up for our digital rights and ensure that access to information remains a fundamental part of our lives!

[@m1thun27]

Speaking from Bangladesh 🇧🇩 We indeed have lived through a Black Mirror episode. Still can't believe the dictator hasina has been finally overthrown after almost 16 years.

[@user-ck3uu8rj3x]

You're living through some astounding times, I hope you and your family and friends will keep safe and witness a change for the better.

[@georgesos]

Sorry to bring the bad news but you just changed the face of your oppressor. Yunis seems to be a USA puppet, who s going to turn Bangladesh into Ukraine but against China. Very bad idea but this is what will happen The new regime will allow some freedoms, punish a few corrupt but insignificant people, while allowing American bases in the country. I hope I m wrong.

[@carlosgaspar8447]

doesn't she claim foreign interference? why did britain reject her asylum.

[@n-hexane8271]

mithun arnt you a bangladeshi hindu? how come you are calling hasina dictator. something aint matching

[@refayatul]

​@@n-hexane8271everyone in Bangladesh calls her dictator. Except her party supporter and indian govt and godi media

[@EuropeanVisitor-pe6xd]

And this is why having an old school radio and CB is a must

[@kaskalo2]

Exactly the same thing happened some days ago in Serbia (August, 2024). As people were protesting against Lithium mining, exactly during that time of protesting, internet was gone. For a few hours.

[@rezoanmahmud5165]

Bangladeshi here. During those 5 days people couldn't even pay electric/gas/water bills. ATMs were off.

[@vectorsahel5420]

Yeah, people who had prepaid electric bills had to pay with online transaction but since the net went out, all the people had to go directly to the office to pay it The lines had thousands of people and it lasted a couple of days

[@noneofyourbizness]

which is why the UK will NEVER switch it off....the rich NEED our money to flow to them via rents, interest and share 'dividends' (aka: handouts) etc. no internet/ATMs = that huge flow of money stops.

[@Mojoremixxx]

Funny timing for this upload when Twitter is blocked in my country Pakistan 😢

[@FR4NKY666]

vpn bro

[@Kaze-i9z]

1. VPN. 2. Twitter is less of a brainrot than it was after elon bought it but still a brainrot.

[@Alfonso88279]

@@Kaze-i9z Dude, there have never been so many conspiracionists on twitter ever. Avoiding crazy stuff has never been harder.

[@Kaze-i9z]

@@Alfonso88279 actually its the reverse, seeing normalcy was never so easy.

[@BuggsOp]

You are not missing anything

[@tomislavbosnjak7435]

Hey, I'm from Europe, if T-Mobile or any internet provider would do that, I wonder if they are ready to bear the damage that the people would cause to the infrastructure (Attack and destruction of all repeaters, 90% of which are located on apartment buildings and are easily accessible) I clean gas installations and chimneys, and there are 10-15 repeaters on each roof of the building, what if people took hammers and smashed or set fire to all those repeaters? Let's be clear, we are talking about billions of € and $ of revenue to States and Providers. Without people, all those "Billionaires from Silicon Valley" would be beggars. (Target is an example of what can happen to them, and I think that both States and Providers are aware of that, that's why they hesitate)

[@collectorguy3919]

In Canada, we have Rogers April 2021: Rogers broke their wireless network, coast-to-coast, for a whole day. July 2022: Rogers broke their core network (wired and wireless), coast-to-coast, for the whole day.

[@thulomanchay]

Roger

[@Treeman3]

Roger that

[@LexiLunarpaw]

I forgot about the Rogers Incident

[@otrqffaimajg]

it happened in Manipur, India, the state went dark for 8 months

[@kugul1683]

What happened?

[@otrqffaimajg]

​@@kugul1683Ethnic violence.

[@Dusk425]

​@@kugul1683 A conflict began in Manipur on 3rd May, 2023 between 2 ethnic communities. It has resulted in arson of numerous homes and properties, loss of lives missing persons, displaced persons living in relief camps. It has not been resolved even now. But the Prime Minister refuses to address the situation.

[@Afza1husain]

Kashmir too. Blackout lasted many years.

[@thiruvetti]

@@Afza1husain Yes, for Kashmir it makes sense since terrorists and their supporters create chaos using internet. The blackout helps Security forces to prevent misinformation and disarm terrorists.

[@johansomeone1948]

Shuting down internet in my opinion would only eascalate violent demonstrations and harm infrastructure. But in sertain countrys they obviously does it on purpose. Not giving 2 fucs who is affected. 💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@abolmiamenx4]

In my country Sudan, the internet has been shut off in 2019 twice, the 1st time in early 2019 the government shutdown social media to "counter misinformation" a VPN could get you by, but on June 3rd 2019 - July 2019 it was a complete shutdown of internet, people couldn't even buy electricity. They had to rely on the small network of ADSL and Fiber. Also on October 25th 2021 till mid November they did that again a complete shutdown of internet. That's what you get with with military ruling over the country.

[@leobuscaglia5576]

In India, internet shutdowns are commonplace for the slightest of indications that there might be an event that the administration will find itself difficult to contain. It's a rather convenient excuse for the administration to exert control over the masses rather than taking responsibility and doing some actual ground work. It is a very real possibility for an authoritarian regime to cut off internet and other communication services in the name of security and manipulate the situation for their own purposes, especially in developing countries like India.

[@FireHeatLight]

Equity is not a part of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Equality and non-discrimination is. You said "equity" while having on the screen "equality and non-discrimination." Huge difference.

[@bobSeigar]

Yes but the Globalist Propaganda means he HAS to conflate the terms.

[@1495978707]

And they will always waffle about how equity doesn't actually mean equality of outcome, rather than treatment

[@Rationalific]

I noticed that as well. Good that you mentioned that.

[@Armand79th]

Because that's how these FUD merchants sell their FUD BS.

[@chrismay2298]

There's no such thing as "equality" as the modern zeitgeist defines it. Equal means the same. We are not and never will be the same.

[@sahajdeep_sandhu]

governments should not shut down the internet because it violates freedom of the citizens of the country

[@andreasfehlau4965]

What's also interesting about KZbin is that once I've written something, I can no longer edit or delete it.

[@crawkn]

For rights to be guaranteed, they have to be guaranteed _by_ someone. The concept of "inviolable rights" is an ideal, not a fundamental feature of reality. All rights are violable, and therefore must be defended. It is reasonable to assume that you are more likely to defend your own rights than a government which is not answerable to your approval, so the best defense is active participation in democratic government.

[@lominero5]

Sadly, people vote as if they are in a high school popularity contest and not in their own best interest.

[@crawkn]

@@lominero5 Yes, many do, but not all. Democracy is an imperfect system, because it's made of imperfect people, but it is better than all the others most of the time.

[@patrickday4206]

The more people that actually believe rights are inalienable the harder time they have finding people to violate those rights. That's the sad part of government infringement is everyone gets used to doing it so the government telling the company to shut down their hubs doesn't seem like something they should refuse to do.

[@crawkn]

@@patrickday4206 what's important is not believing, but acting. People need to remember that their votes are the only thing protecting their rights.

[@chrismay2298]

Still haven't seen any example of a "democratic government" answering to anyone. Another ideal. Not reality.

[@breadman32398]

You have said something illegal against the UK government. Your internet privileges have been revoked for 1 year.

[@Tuppoo94]

"OI!!! WHERE'S YOUR PERMIT FOR YOUR INTERNET LOICENCE!!!"

[@jesterequinox]

there are probably some people who think that's how it works

[@Armand79th]

​@@jesterequinox Ohh, more than likely! We call them idiots.

[@faustinpippin9208]

More like 1 year of jail...

[@KK-eg3em]

Just like those crazy tv permits.

[@TaranAadarsh]

I've had regional shutdowns more than I'd like last year. One minor killing involving religious issues and before we even knew of the cause, we got to know that the internet was shut down. Another time, a few people were caught trying to help people cheat in some government-run exam and the next thing you know, the internet's out. The biggest irony is that my country has a website that shows which regions have no internet access. It almost feels like they like to show off the fact that they're regularly cutting internet access in various places across the country. I mean, it's not like the people in the affected areas would be able to access the website or do anything about their situation anyways.

[@tinasmith1391]

After what the Pentagon did in the Philippines during the pandemic I think we can safely say that stopping misinformation isn't the real goal.

[@celestial_s]

What did they do

[@sissyroxx]

The US Pentagon ran an anti-vaccine campaign in the Philippines during the pandemic to undermine China. They have since apologized for all the unnecessary deaths they caused. I'm sure the Philippine people forgive them 🤦

[@coshyno]

@@nono99136 They spread anti vax misinformation, what the hell are you talking about ?

[@taraskhan475]

can you tell us more?

[@Spheronic]

"As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he deems himself your master." - Comissioner Pravin Lal, "U.N. Declaration of Rights"

[@meilinchan7314]

The problem with information........is that it can be compromised to the point that eventually, tyranny is made possible by foisting self censorship. Internet and smartphones are simply the radios and TVs of last century, with the same defects that led to mass politics and eventually, global holocaust.

[@scalagitara]

Ah, a fellow SMAC gentleman.

[@MrQtips1]

Free flow of information + critical thinking + curiosity is the essential trio in my opinion. Otherwise, the loudest message ends up being the one being listened to, no matter how non-factual/ dangerous it is.

[@trueriver1950]

​@@MrQtips1 yes and no Free flow of info was a good idea when that involved printed pamphlets, because it took time to read them, giving readers a chance to reflect on how far they agreed and how far they disagreed with the content. The problem with social media is that it's too fast for rational thought: it triggers emotions and actions follow before there is time to think. In a recent example in the UK, a social media post blamed a triple murder on a recent Moslem immigrant. By the time people realised this was a blatant lie (the alleged perp in fact being a born-here Christian) there were mobs burning down places where Moslem asylum seekers were living. We need some way to slow down the purely emotional panic responses. In my opinion (yours may vary): That will not happen because the electronic media is paid for by advertiser's and they rather like people to repaint too their ads emotionally.

[@ZoldicsDiaries]

We all know Internet was invented by DARPA and it was made public only to push interests of USA, specially through influence operations. No sane country would allow that interference . Partial censorship is utmost important .

[@trefod]

Makes no difference. All fundamental human rights are broken by governements on a daily basis. Describing something in an FN charter is worth very little in the end.

[@surge2346]

Hasina (former PM of Bangladesh) conducted a genocide after shutting down the internet.

[@SlapstickGenius23]

Oh dear, this is saddening. Hasina is as messed up as her father Mujibur!

[@alexxx4434]

Public should look into backup technological solutions for communication in case government decides to shut down internet.

[@PaxAlotin-j6r]

Books - Candles - Matches - Water - Compass - Radio --- Blankets -- Tarpaulins and ------------ a Boomerang --- 😉🙂😊

[@SimonBauer7]

we already have, its called starlink and other satellite internet.

[@ho11owbone]

radio waves can be used to communicate, and if im not mistaken 2g and 3g networks can call and txt without internet.

[@samuellolango9720]

@@SimonBauer7 hate to break it to you but starlink is a government asset

[@aaronwestley3239]

Not really. ​@@samuellolango9720

[@Unpredictable_Fennec]

Algerians have internet cut off for a whole week just because of high school exams,and when there were protests they just killed the internet.

[@Ravenelvenlady]

As a GenXer, I NEVER rely on one thing. Analogue is always a back up. We read maps, write letters. Use word of mouth, cash, landline phones (if still existent) etc.

[@thethree60five]

LORA comms

[@athosgomesfonseca]

People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people.

[@totalermist]

The satellite internet recommendation truly baffles me. How naive can people be? The 1960s just called to remind you that LEO is *not* the _ultimate high ground_ . There's three major reason why StarLink and friends won't do anything to help with this: 1. Business: companies require *local* licenses to operate in foreign countries. No license, no legal grounds for operation, hence adherence to local law. 2. Technological: satellite internet still requires ground stations to connect to the internet. Mandate kill-switches and remote access to those and you gained nothing; alternatively, governments can simply literally pull the plug on them should they choose to do so. 3. Political: Mr. "Free Speech Warrior" demonstrated time and again that he is *not* actually an advocate for free speech: StarLink has been shut down in Ukraine on behest of a single person, X grants more censorship requests from authoritarian governments that Twitter ever did, etc. So on top of governments threatening to shut the internet down, you're now also at the merci of sociopaths or corporate overlords who can pre-emptively do the same even before any government asks for it, because it suits *their* personal or corporate agenda ; doesn't sound like a win to me.

[@MrFrost-xh6rf]

Can you list your sources?

[@kosmique]

@@MrFrost-xh6rf common sense.

[@rjung_ch]

When I travelled to London in 2005, when the attacks in London happened, on that day, the whole cell service was shut down for a few hours. I could not make any calls or find out what was happening. Instead of landing downtown, we ended up in Luton and had to take a bus downtown. But they stopped on the outskirts and we had to walk into town. Eventually all was back to normal.

[@thesenate1844]

Being stranded in Luton is a fate worse than having no internet

[@bendoherty3129]

Being from London I wonder where they drove you to that day. How far did you have to walk?

[@rjung_ch]

@@bendoherty3129 We had booked a hotel exactly where the subway was bombed. I can't remember exactly how long we walked, but it felt like 5 or 8 km on that day, so close to 2 hours. I'd have to ask my wife, she's out at the moment.

[@bendoherty3129]

@@rjung_ch that's crazy. Cool story though

[@rjung_ch]

@@bendoherty3129 thanks, I hope for no more violence anywhere, it's always the wrong people who are harmed or worse. Peace.

[@MidnightMysteries-pz5hr]

I can't live 10 minutes without internet and you're talking about hours/days. IDK but the internet became an important side of our lives.

[@adamtajhassam9188]

Alot of proper varified security and improvements need to be made - shutting it off is not the answer.

[@MidnightMysteries-pz5hr]

@@adamtajhassam9188 That is accurate, people can't live without an internet

[@suzonrobot2251]

We lived 10 days without internet at Bangladesh 🇧🇩

[@Macgyver46]

​@MidnightMysteries-pz5hr People do it all day every day. It's very easy.

[@MidnightMysteries-pz5hr]

@@suzonrobot2251 Wow, it is an impossible record 🤯🤯

[@abidibnazam4462]

Never thought I would see our Protest in Cold Fusions intro. Thanks for talking about Bangladesh.

[@Andrew-0815]

In my opinion, there is absolutely no excuse for switching off the entire Internet. Not even for a minute. And that should be even more true for so-called open societies and democracies. The fact that such a possibility exists even there is extremely worrying. Unfortunately, the UK in particular seems to be on a slippery slope. They are sacrificing more and more freedoms in order to supposedly provide more security. In the end, they will lose both, as the famous saying goes.

[@megazord8672]

Internet kill switches are GOOD because they stop AI from escaping and spreading to the rest of the world.

[@1495978707]

This is what happens when people accept government controlling speech even a little. They get the foot in the door by talking about how bad hate speech is, stochastic terrorism etc, and eventually they're controlling everything you see. Once that foot is in the door, there's no stopping it. People just do not understand the seriousness of nipping this kind of thing in the bud

[@chrismay2298]

Plenty of reasons to switch it off permanently. This WILL come to fruition. Uncle Ted tried to warn us.

[@annatetiad.4991]

@@chrismay2298 agreed - if it's gone, they can't force CBDCs.

[@Aera223]

True, internet shutdowns are overkill. (Excluding short term emergency shutdown of ISPs to prevent soft bricking computers, until the malicious worm can be stopped)

[@trueriver1950]

13:28 "Imagine the damage if your internet were cut off for five days" (paraphrased quote). Exactly so. But it is not governments who should be imagining that, but every person who makes themselves vulnerable in this way. What happens if it's not the govt? If it's a solar flare? If it's a cyber attack? If it's a major earthquake near your nation's manor connections to the international net? If it's the action of a foreign govt that can shut off all connections to your community that pass through theirs? Don't put it all on the government: you need to keep your life less dependent on that single point of failure. Because the govt is not the only plausible cause of loss of connectivity.

[@rollingthunder5944]

I'm from Eswatini, and tyrannical regimes do indeed shut down mobile operations in times of protests. There was an uprise of protests and civil unrest due to citizens wanting more democratic systems to be put in place. It is my believe that the monarchy colluded with the cellphone companies, Eswatini MTN and Eswatini Mobile to put a strangle on the internet as so to hide the many atrocities committed by the armed forces of the country against protesters. The three pro democracy MPs were persecuted for leading the call of bringing about reforms. One of them is in exile while the two have been sentenced for treason.

[@MrRoque-pg3yr]

The world existed fine before the internet.

[@casual_sky2]

In Zambia, during our 2021 General election, the internet was partially shutdown, no social media sites were accessible, including WhatsApp. To this day we don't have answers or explanations. Everyone just ended up using VPNs and got around it pretty easily.

[@Argoon1981]

If the government really wanted to turn off internet, vpn's wouldn't prevent that.

[@md.alnahian4613]

internet shutdown is like you can not use internet in anyway, no one can use the internet, not even the large corp, or companies. this is what they did in bangladesh.

[@deshaebeasley]

Five topics to fix society via discussion: -Anti-natalism vs Natalism -The 3 basic needs/prenatal needs Three things are necessary for human evolution which are provided while in the womb which are; food, shelter and medical care -Platinum rule Do whatever makes one happier unless it interferes with another persons ability to do the same -MBTI (research yours and connect with others) -Art (pick one and get better at it!)

[@cheeks7050]

9:38 you said "equity", but the bill references "Equality" these are two very different things, and equity was insidiously chosen as a term because it sounds like equality but has a very different meaning.

[@lilfam4882]

Im from Bangladesh. Thank you.

[@MysticalLibraries]

Make Bangladesh secular and progressive. It's your opportunity - well wisher from India.

[@TalEdds]

​@@MysticalLibrariesWould say the same for India, Modi doesn't seem to hold the same views as you.

[@myownhome2959]

The whole reason why we the people must refuse to switch to digital ID & currency!

[@cmuk_17]

Been watching this channel since the 'How Big is' series started, always super informative, never disappoints!

[@ColdFusion]

Thanks for sticking around, much more to come!

[@jokanaan2486]

You can't dislike things on KZbin and you can't openly express your opinions on the web for the risk of offending someone or be seen as intolerant. We are already almost there.

[@fluffyfour]

Absolutely right. Free speech is long gone, and my only consolation is I'm not so young these days and don't have offspring.

[@gug1970]

And in the UK, Starmer will put in you prison.

[@nikolaideianov5092]

Nah its pure business KZbin doesnt care if someone is offended becose it doesnt matter for business They care about money Removeing dislike counter ? If a video has a lot of dislikes then people are more likely to click off of it (Also the old youtube rewind that got disliked a lot ) For an example look at the elssa gate , it makes them money so they arent fully stopeing it They allow very bad things to stay for very long if it makes them money The somewhat recent controversy about youtube not removeing litteral CP ? It makes them money

[@YaaaTeee]

Hasina was ousted by the CIA because she refused to allow the US to build a military base in Bangladesh.

[@ag4244]

I see this happening in the US in my lifetime

[@zipf1364]

i work in 3d art for games, and always need reference images .. anyway, ive noticed over the last few years its getting increasingly hard to find basic information and images on pretty much every subject im researching . to the point im "googling" things and sometimes dont get a single image.... google used to have endless pages of images on any subject.. anyone else noticed this

[@YvonneMobley-uq1tl]

SO WHAT! We got along just fine without it before, and life was far better. Why would anyone be controlled by an addiction that is easy to ditch?

[@user-no4ye7qy6d]

If this happened it wouldn't just be the internet it would be phones, equipment, car charging stations etc because they all use the internet to run.

[@shakilmuhammad8507]

I'm from Bangladesh and I was there in Dhaka when it happened ,, it was like a horrible nightmare, I didn't know what my friends were doing, what my family was doing and as a student I was terrified of what might have happened to others within this blackout ,, thank God finally some peace returned within us

[@RockinJohnny]

That's the problem, we rely too much on technology we never had years ago. Another reason I am against digital currency, I avoid digital currency as much as possible and I have never ever used my phone to pay someone. As time passes we are giving governments more and more power of ourselves and this is evil practice. Let's go back to basics the way it was 25 years ago and start over again, could that be possible?

[@mcapps1]

😂😂😂😂😂 the government controls it and the corporations run it.

[@RFDN0]

Better than the otherway around.

[@ecogreen123]

@@RFDN0 more or less

[@puddles5501]

@@RFDN0 it literally is the other way around. a "managed democracy" relegates the government to a bureaucratic shield that allows the people who have performed the state capture to operate freely. corporations are making record profits, and it seems we're about to go to war for them. our governments are only maintained to enforce the "plausible" deniability of "there's no money left! the citizens of the richest nations in history are just gonna have to die"

[@petercrane2560]

good description of fascism there mate!!!

[@BertieJasokie]

India does this regularly also, a lot of regions in the "disturbed" areas. We had a mobile internet network shutdown twice but we had access through WiFi, thankfully. Praying that things like star link become more mainstream.

[@spicychad55]

India claims they do this to "stop" so called terrorists from operating.

[@bearstarpresents2264]

You mean like when starlink shut down access in Ukraine?

[@Yuva_Maddy]

🥜🧠 Seriously, Trusting a private company 😂

[@BertieJasokie]

@@bearstarpresents2264 Alternatives can exist too if it becomes reliable. If they have no stake in the conflict they are free to keep it open. ISPs becoming more free from government control would be great.

[@BertieJasokie]

@@Yuva_Maddy Typical mainlander has no clue what happens outside his little bubble. Go outside and protest for your sisters at least and stop being a rage baiter. So ducking sad.

[@georgekyriakou1720]

We are treated like sheep unfortunately. Basic human rights shouldn't even be discussed.

[@nonine09]

Here from Bangladesh, thank you for covering this topic. I was waiting for this.

[@jwtfpv8957]

Unfortunately governments in desperate times take desperate measures. History has shown us this many times. No law will prevent this happening.