GPS study ANSWERS what happens when you SPOOK A BUCK!

[@andrewhelton2373]

This guy absolutely knows his stuff regarding forest management practices in the past and present. Very good episode!

[@otahu26]

My Local Subdivision.. Urban area here in Canada Has a Special hunting permit for Bow hunters. With No Restrictions on distances from buildings. Because the Suburbs. Have created the ultimate deer habitat. Little bit of grass. Perfect cover with people wanting privacy nature fences. Ponds. Bird feeders, Small fields, Med size trees. No predators. No coyotes, No bears, No predators. The deer have twins and they both survive. Deer are thriving. More deer are lost to auto's hitting them then Hunters in the area. Yet like you said. Go a little ways. To the forest that is protected from cutting. NO Animals like it. There's nothing there. It is like a waist land for wildlife. People need to be educated.

[@pennyontrack]

Where in Canada?

[@seanbarrett657]

Im in michigan. I've been seeing the same thing. The dnr wants huge doe harvests to cut down on human deer conflict. Most of the conflict, in my opinion, is coming from subdivisions popping up all over our farmlands and woodlands. You end up with a bunch of HOAs that dont allow hunting but create perfect areas for the deer population and compain about the population. Changing the numbers in the game areas unfortunately wont make a bit of difference in the areas where management is actually needed. Its hard to believe that i can see this but our dnr doesnt.

[@thomas9565]

⁠@@seanbarrett657, Michigan’s DNR is a joke.

[@JonLewis-ct2mk]

Montreal Quebec area is one possibility where urban area deer cull.or Truro area in Nova Scotia.That would be the only places I can think off the bat for urban bow hunt for deer.

[@willyfaulker6001]

Sussex lol

[@cknowles3980]

Dr Gino DeAngelo is definitely correct on needing some areas clear, hunters get behind him! Obviously he has looked over and participated in the studies, we all want better hunting!

[@curtismerriman9956]

I love that special place and it’s good to me every season!! We are really lucky to have it!

[@ronalddietrick7300]

Hi Gino! Been forever, so happy to see you followed your passion for the outdoors. This was one of my favorite listens.

[@jasonmiller9403]

Up here in the Northern states, you bump a mature mountain buck and he’ll vacate the area more times than not. Big woods, big difference.

[@mattmatt6572]

Yep and how hard u spook em matters I'd seen a buck who was shot at taken the next day 15 miles away. If you spook one good where I'm from they might never return to that spot.

[@ethanwynn6971]

I’d be interested to see this type of study in the west on Mule deer and elk. I was mule deer hunting last week and saw another hunter jump a group of mule deer from their bed in late morning and watched that group of mule deer completely relocate to another mountain around a mile away. Then over the next few days I watched the same group of Mulies meander for over another mile in the opposite direction, winding up in a completely different area, miles away from where they were jumped. On the other hand I (last week as well) saw a white tail doe come out her bed in the evening which was in a creek bottom that other hunters walked through all day (unfortunately for me, this is where I set up to glass because I was waiting for this same buck to come out of his bed for the evening). She walked straight past another hunter within 100 yards like he wasn’t even there and vanished into the tall grass along the banks of the lake with a decent buck chasing her. (What I draw from this) white tail have a much smaller home range and prefer to stick to cover rather than relocate entirely when they feel threatened. While, Mulies are liable to up and move to an entirely different home range when they’re pushed. However, I’m new to western hunting and have a very limited data source so take this for what it’s worth (potentially nothing)

[@carl6153]

My apologies here if I am out of place. I’m actually in a late stage of Lyme infection and I’m aware that it is a national epidemic that is being misdiagnosed as a very wide variety of illnesses. I’m one of hundreds of thousands who were misdiagnosed and have been treated with opioids for 20 years now for a disease that was never treated. It’s now a matter of life and death for me and many others who were diagnosed with a whole range of other diseases including ALS or MS or Fibromyalgia or Parkinson’s or some other things. I would say be very wary about this unknown epidemic and take the time to learn about the symptoms of Lyme disease and how it should be treated. I have lost half my life with something that could have been healed, if it had been recognized. It has affected every aspect of my life and now I’m in a fight for my life. These people really need to be educated about Lyme disease. It’s very clear that it’s deadly and that thousands of cases will be misdiagnosed every month.

[@manyfeather2knives423]

Thank you. I have had Lyme disease three times. Thank god i caught it in time and was treated with antibiotics. Doctors are oblivious to this deadly disease. We definitely need more education.

[@jyellowhammer]

Just the other day, as I was making my way to my climber, I heard one deer get up off the bed and my experience told me that it was a buck. I stopped and did a few short grunts and climbed my tree as quietly as possible. Got settled and hit the grunts a few more short soft bursts. Then this 17 inch 4 point super cull buck steps out right over the mock scrape I had made two days earlier. I went ahead and put an arrow in him and made hamburger for the freezer. This is not the first time this has happened. Just because they get spooked doesn’t mean they are running wide open through the woods until they reach the next county. I always make sure to have the wind in my favor or else my efforts are futile. I also have a passion for rattling bucks up on the ground. Nothing better than getting in just close enough to his bedding area to hear him jump up after you hit the first rattle of those horns together.

[@LeeByrdPro]

Being a SC resident, I'm going to need the GPS coordinates to confirm the veracity of statements made.

[@cknowles3980]

Thank you doc, this is one of the best discussions I’ve ever heard. Dr. I also believe the hunters need lobbyists with someone like you to help guide them!

[@glennwhittington7783]

I hunt an archery only “small” WMA in NE Georgia. I read all the time from others who try to hunt the area about how over hunted it is, yet I walk over a mile deep and cross two big ridge lines and never see any other hunters. I never go a day without seeing a deer . Most hunters seem to stop on the first ridge or bottom and very much perpendicular to the road. I also have began packing out my harvest due to the terrain and notice that this has really become a popular practice on areas that allow it. Certainly has made the harvest of deer much more enjoyable and feasible.

[@hrmIwonder]

Why wouldn't you be able to pack out a deer in a backpack? Are there places that don't allow that? Would never occur to me that you couldn't.

[@Dadlife911]

As a guy hunting the Tennessee side of the Appalachias it’s freakin hard to find a deer. Out of 7 of us spread over a couple of miles there were two does and one buck seen on opening day

[@Yamaha38XCRacer]

Yeah up wv in the mountain parts it’s low numbers for years now..up north toward middle of state on my land it’s crawling with deer, it’s nothing seeing over a dozen deer a day..last 2 weeks I hunted one or 2 sets a day everyday, seen no less than 4 deer a day and 14 was the most a day..the mountains 15 years ago was high volume of deer, not been the case for many years now, public or private land in Pendleton county on our 700 acres my family owns.

[@jyellowhammer]

Hunting the hill country deer is always tough. Deer just don’t like those hilly ass areas.

[@evanhb49]

last friday i went hunting on a wma ive never hunted before and a spot ive never scouted. hunting on the ground surrounded by new growth (it was controlled burned maybe 2 years ago) had a 8pt come in behind me 15 yards i let it get 25 and hit a branch with my gun and he took off. went in the next day same time same spot and shot him 30 yards away. in SC btw. i learned a great lesson friday and that was to take my time when necessary.

[@charlesleblanc6638]

When you think about it, deer are a lot like rabbits/hares when it comes to hiding and escaping. Very interesting podcast.

[@stormchasevideo]

I'm wondering if circadian rythm has a factor with the "nocturnal" aspect? Example, our days get shorter and shorter until 12/21 each year but deer seem to wake up the same time every day becasue thats their "sleep schedule".

[@haroldvickery2680]

I could’ve told y’all that. But I remember Hunting in the old days and we realize that early on.

[@mr.skeptical3071]

Jeff Sturgis says they run for miles and miles when you jump them up. I say they only run a little bit then stop and look back

[@desertdog1125]

I'm convinced what He's doing and where being so far North of us in the Southern States is not even playing the same game

[@osar2870]

I think he mainly focuses on crazy huge old bucks that probably don’t apply to the average hunters

[@jumperonfire5]

I have found , having the benefits of hunting in snow, when a buck is jumped he will go a few hundred yards and stop. Then, determines if you are coming after him. That dictates how far he goes.

[@jims2165]

Jeff Sturgis acts like he knows everything about deer. The deer he harvests are on property that’s not pressured. I know bc I owned land near him. One of his properties but up against residential neighborhood and he acted like all his mock scrapes were attracting big bucks. He now lives in MN and has the same set up. All Jeff cares about are KZbin views, selling crap and “land consulting”.

[@mattmatt6572]

Yeah I'm north and I've seen both I've jumped them up going to the stand and called them back in convinced him I was another buck. Then I once seen a monster who was shot at and missed shot the next day 15 miles away.

[@JonLewis-ct2mk]

Old growth soft wood.Winter Cover.Clear cuts new hardwood growth Food/Cover.

[@SamRutherford-r7l]

Clear cuts definitely help deer and turkey populations especially deer lets them get a little bit of age on them where all the bucks are not getting killed the first year they have horns eventually you will see bigger bucks

[@chrisgarrison1158]

I see both sides. Bout like redwoods or Douglas fir.The ones that have been logged in the last say fifty years. Keep on logging. Farm that land. Best you can. And other spots leave them alone. But if you need manage places. Even just to properly thin large forest or control burns. But I think oak trees 200 years old need to be left be. Two even three sides to that story.

[@maxcole3930]

Deer went nocturnal at my inlaws property but some of family was hunting the property 4-6 days a week 1st 3 months of the season!it's om140 acre's but when you have 2-3 people hammering it that hard. I guess that's to be expected? I only saw 1 deer on that property all season. I didn't shoot her because she was small & thin.

[@FrankDog-d5r]

Deer are not robots, some of the 'information', I take with a grain of salt; example like the 'roads and highways' being a 'backwall'. Not in Ohio, that's for sure.

[@Outrunninaround.]

Definitely elaborate for us PA guys when you’re not busy. Tell us what you see.

[@Buddystemz]

I’ve never heard the term backwall for roads and highways? What do they mean by that, like they won’t cross roads?

[@Outrunninaround.]

@ yes

[@Buddystemz]

@@Outrunninaround. that’s insane if that’s what people are saying then. The amount of big bucks and doe that cross roads daily is crazy. Can drive any road around my house at night and see deer crossing and also dead ones that litter the roads.

[@willcook4174]

People not realizing that trees and wildlife are renewable resources. The better we manage them, the more they produce.’

[@JaysClubHouse]

Your dog is a straight savage

[@youtubehatestruthtellers8065]

Please elaborate 😂

[@Riggleman-cc4tp]

They do a terrible job on their public up here in West Virginia, they drop the trees and leave them to waste and leave all the brush to were you can’t traverse it. It ruined a good chunk that used to be good hunting

[@ArmedPatriot]

But people arent shooting everything they see like back than either

[@ManoftheClaw]

Regarding the logging controversy I can see 2 sides of that. Yes habitat will improve and wildlife numbers will grow but once you start establishing new access roads you start to lose the aspect of remoteness which I think is what draws most modern-day mountain hunter. The mountain hunting experience will decline. I think there can be a happy medium where national forest lands can be managed but still retain the remote aspects of designated wilderness areas

[@coreyadkins6491]

I agree with you. We need to log. The right kind of logging is good for the forest and critters that live there. I hunt the mountains of Eastern West Virginia and the biggest reason I do that is just for the mountain experience and lack of people. In some places here to keep from cutting new roads they log with helicopters. With in my opinion is the best of both worlds.

[@matthewmalone4174]

There’s a reason southern Ohio is in high hunting demand

[@AustinBrawner-ml5su]

I grew up about 30 minutes from Bridgestone. There’s a lot of memories in those trees but there’s plenty of grassland pasture here

[@AustinBrawner-ml5su]

But there is huge juvenile pine patches and they are so damn thick they could grassland that stuff all they want to

[@lizzleyt]

I dont understand these premier vids...why not just upload it regularly?

[@christiancameron8]

Shut up

[@RaspySquares]

It's just a method for releasing videos, it just gathers more attention, like a live stream.

[@hrmIwonder]

God i wish deer would only run 200 yards here in se mt. Here they run several hundred to 1000+ yards when you spook them, no problem. Just a different game in different parts of the country.

[@thesouthernoutdoorsmen]

Yeah that open cover out west they do seem to cover WAY more distance when spooked. We've seen that in WY

[@randythompson7497]

love it

[@donnievickers7043]

I feel like If u harvest more predators you will have more deer in your Forest.. especially the fawn killers

[@jcmxs4]

MSU deer lab has done multiple studies. Eliminating predators can be counter productive. If ur numbers start coming up and you dont have the quality habitat the surrounding predators will move into your predator void property and easily pick off your deer herd. The best way to boost deer numbers and fawn survivability is through habitat

[@MrSprintcat]

I love watching these videos but every few minutes. I gotta get up and skip the stupid ADS. Almost making you not wanna watch it

[@MichaelMyers-t5p]

The lack on knowledge on what needs to occur for both deer/turkey/grouse/etc. is a shameful for me to see and hear. KNOWLEDGE is power and lack of KNOWLEDGE is our own fault. Without habitat you have lack of game. You have to understand how and why things happen in nature...HARDWOOD forest with a high canopy....NOT a "creature" friendly habitat!!! PREDITORS know it...why can we not figure it out!!!!

[@capthollis]

How in the hell cutting down trees benefits deer ! U ate messing with bedding areas and pushing them to vulnerability

[@grantgemlo7348]

Provided new growth which is great food and within a few seasons it is a great bedding areas also.

[@jonathansoan1708]

29:45 ish (what can hunters do) Buy a firewood permit and bring an axe and possibly even a chainsaw. There is like a 4 hour window where deer are bedded. Maybe cut down a tree or 2 in high density hardwood where sunlight is not getting through.

[@alab3657]

In Virginia they doubled the muzzle loader season and then added crossbows then added sunday Hunting in the national forest. That doubled the season. Now hunters cry about no deer and blame it on logging when we haven't had logging in 60 years on our forest. .