Grab Bag of News || TTC Ep525

[@fenixmeaney6170]

"you may think God cannot see you because you're indoors, but I can see you." Such a raw line as always, Cam.

[@wavesofbabies]

One additional thing I will add on the Commander Format Panel that changes things from the old way and protects members: the people on the panel are being paid by WotC. So any harassment directed at those people is now harassment against people under the employ/contract/whatever the deal is of Wizards. That legally changes things quite a bit.

[@PeterHaderlein]

If you're curious, at 5:56 Cam is referencing "Spider Man's Tangled Web", Issue #5 titled "Flowers for Rhino" (2001). It's pretty wild. Rhino gets a brain operation that makes him super smart and he rewrites Hamlet.

[@markbrierley6367]

Loved that story.

[@KingTaltia]

"People keep pinging me asking 'does this go in Aristocrats?'" Ah, no Cam, easy mistake, people were asking if "Nine-Lives Familiar" goes in ARISTOCATS.

[@janmelantu7490]

8:34 Cam is referring to the Pronghorn, which is not actually a Gazelle but does fill the same ecological niche (extremely fast grazing animal that runs away from cheetahs, yes there used to be an American Cheetah). They’re both ruminants, but Pronghorns are on the Giraffe/Okapi side of the group, while Gazelles are on the Cattle/Sheep/Deer/Goat side

[@EricChoiniere]

*Inscryption flashbacks*

[@mackenzierobinson7310]

Congrats to Nelly for living up to his own hype!

[@Gregsusername]

Hey I just came to say Graham was wrong about Dig Through Time. hopefully this helps with your engagement love your work

[@liamckay5591]

I can't wait for the next TTC, which will be three hours and cover: Magic Con Vegas The PPR The 2025 schedule And anything that comes up in the next week! Which surely will slow down the pace on Magic news, right? Right?

[@nathanMangion_Elyden]

By which time there would have been another bombshell news item to date the episode before it airs... again. It this point, I feel like they should change the release date to Wednesday record on monday

[@markbrierley6367]

I logged on to Twitter for the first time in years to express support for Wheeler on the new Commander Board. I think he's extremely qualified as someone who can accurately gauge both power and vibes.

[@wingusdingus1019]

Notably, vibes

[@ribbontoast]

When I took the NY State standardized Spanish test I used only future imperfect verbs for every written portion because it was the only tense I could conjugate consistently / correctly. Ended up with a 94%. Enjoy this weird engagement.

[@bagfullofbees2529]

So I was playing the mono-red leyline deck in standard before it got banned, and I had a lot of fun flinging Cacophony Scamps at people using the Burn Together half of Callous Sell-Sword. A great little detail about that interaction is that unlike Fling, Burn Together doesn't require you to sacrifice the creature as a cost to cast it, so it triggers all your prowess-type effects before it actually resolves, boosting your damage. I called the deck Fling feat. Nivix Cyclops.

[@kyubimage9526]

Kinda wish that "LA Gauntlet" format kept the restriction of only cards that have been printed in holofoil because "Pringles" would have been such a catchy format name

[@caseymacpherson5620]

Pringles would have been an incredible name. I liked when it was called Lunchbox because players used to carry their Gauntlet in old 80s/90s lunchboxes. Apparently trying to bring the coolest lunchbox was a thing in the meta 😂

[@beningram1811]

Paul earning their pay, hunting down a random comic discussed on a (not entirely non-comic related) Magic chat, from a description, within two minutes.

[@Qdrew78]

So happy with the direction of magic, I started with it nearly from the beginning and I have been part of such beautiful communities and seeing such a diverse and incredible new community of local players join is amazing. Before my cancer forced me to leave Seattle I had taught the game at the local cafe to over a 100+ new players. So many of which still play. Always love and laughter in your lives and please take care my friends :)

[@nafnaf505]

I've built an Omniscience cube because I love drafting Omni format so much. You could probably do it with small dollar store repacks too.

[@feywanderer89]

Hey, Graham was wrong about dig through time. Enjoy folks.

[@Gregsusername]

i only just now found out that foundations is a set and not like... an idea or a mindset or an era of sort like what i had thought it was. it looks amazing and i am so excited

[@MikiaoD]

From my recollection; the Pauper Rules Panel was put in place in response to the community push back on Chatterstorm. Chatterstorm was printed in MH2 in June 2021 and a LOT of Pauper players assumed it was going to be banned on release as pretty much all of the Storm wincons are. And it wasn't. And then a Ban announcement happened and it still wasn't banned. I remember reading about an MTGO event that normally drew dozens of players that only had like 9; most of whom were playing 60 basic lands in protest of the format getting so warped by this storm card. Chatterstorm was finally banned in September 2021. In his article about the Pauper Panel, Gavin did state that the reason Chatterstorm (and some of the cheaper Initiative cards) took so long to ban was because it takes "a lot of discussion, format knowledge, and analysis" to ban a card, something that Wizards did not have for the Pauper format. This panel was WotC's attempt to correct that and to give some official eyes on the format as a whole.

[@SpiffyTrev]

At this point I’m pretty sure WotC is timing their controversial announcements specifically to mess with TTC.

[@lordmanimani-]

If the VG industry can do it to futz with Checkpoint, WotC can do it to TTC!

[@raonair]

Yugioh, looking at Omniscience Draft: look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power!

[@345tom]

It's pretty funny like a couple of days later they definitely 100% confirmed there were cards you can't play in standard included(Sol Ring, Arcane Signet and Command tower at least- I also dont think the Jumpstart exclusives or Special Guests are playable in standard)

[@jamesdouglas1787]

Surely nine lives familiar goes in Aristo-cats?

[@luemece]

#LRRMTG Spiderman set is the perfect place to see those guys that: After being framed for murder of a small time criminal and caught on camera attacking Norman Osborn, who was the owner of the Daily Bugle at the time, Peter Parker... I refer to the PTSD Cam, Matt, and Serge might have had from that LoadingReadyLive episode....XD

[@ericschartenberg7592]

thank you graham for referencing spiders-man, he is my favorite character in the spiderverse

[@Nouxatar]

Great, now I wanna build an Omni Draft Cube. Thanks, LRR.

[@wavesofbabies]

I love that this is yet another episode of TTC that has been outdated by the time it goes live. They can't catch a break.

[@4AMDonuts]

I mean... it's not like they couldn't have predicted this was likely to occur. You record an episode before a big event and then release it after said event is over...it's just not going to feel as relevant. In fact, I'd say the release cadence of TTC in general just opens them up to this kind of thing happening somewhat regularly, because there's too much of a gap between when they record and release episodes.

[@jacobkristos1214]

Care to be a little less cryptic for the not terminally online among us?

[@inajar7947]

​@@jacobkristos1214 I don't think it's about being terminally online, or being cryptic. It's just that there's so much news that got dropped in one day, after this episode was recorded, that it's not the kind of thing someone would dive into In depth in a casual comment. It's also affecting all of magic, so it's reasonable to assume that anyone who plays would know about it relatively quickly. To give you a quick rundown: - All pack UB products from 2025 forward will be Standard (and therefor everything else) legal. This does not include UB secret lair or ub Commander decks, which will retain their original legality of "Eternal only." - WotC is bringing back MSRP. While the MSRP is marginally higher than it was when they discontinued it 6 years ago, by and large, the MSRP is lower than what many places charged for product without it. - The overall number of set releases per year is being slowed down. - The details of the wotc Commander panel has been announced and is overall pretty optimistic. - Lorwyn pushed back to 2025 - first image from the new space set next year, featuring spaceships and Tezzeret - a handful of cards from the death race set, along with its name, were shown - A few more details about return to Tarkir were shown

[@Dragiceoriginal]

@@jacobkristos1214Not them, but: Universes Beyond sets will be standard legal starting in 2025 MSRP is back And like a million Foundations and Jumpstart 2025 spoilers

[@wavesofbabies]

@@4AMDonuts Just pointing it out that they have had an unusually bad few months for this.

[@caseymacpherson5620]

Is there anywhere to find more info about the "LA Gauntlet" format? I know the MMcast used to talk about the format when it was called "Lunchbox" and how the format had developed to become a highlander alternative but I haven't heard anything about it in a long time.

[@CeltiesSin]

Ooh some cool names on the new board. Love me some Lua, Rebell, Wheeler. Excellent 😬

[@Mordalon]

It's so ironic that Time Spiral-Alara was a low point, because that was my first peak time getting into and playing a bunch of Magic. It was pretty crazy how many of the cards I had from that era were super expensive when I came back to the game around 2017.

[@jamescarey7037]

I was hoping for something recorded at the booth from Vegas. 😂

[@Caseyuptobat]

You're telling me the utter menace of arena quick play has been (effectively) goblin fling?

[@janmelantu7490]

Hey look some of us weren’t running the fling just pump spells dot dec

[@lifestyle936]

That spiderman Montreal Canadians comic sound's like really good.

[@isaaceagel3220]

@batman and the joker at the calgary stampede” really bring me back

[@davidarsenault6877]

Zellers cafeteria grilled cheese and fries was tops.

[@TheManaLeek]

Ain't no gravy like Zellers gravy.

[@Ariamaki]

Very solid coverage for a lot of random news, and incredibly funny it managed to just barely duck the announcement of upcoming combat damage changes. :V

[@michaelnichols361]

Re- Omniscience draft: Losing the die roll meaning the game is basically lost is why I don't bother playing. That's the same sort of interactionless victory that makes other things unfun and gets cards banned

[@Spookynoises125]

Would love to see an omni-draft on lrr, sounds like such a cool format

[@artacuno7564]

Was this recorded before the "UB in standard" thing?

[@LRRMTG]

Yes. We were in Vegas when that happened.

[@artacuno7564]

@@LRRMTG Coolio. Interested in the takes. I think in general the folks at lrr are less cynical about, well probably everything compared to me so maybe some more positive outlooks will be nice. To not make me feel so doom and gloom about it. But for me I went to the LGS and sold all my cards. I took it as my sign that the game is no longer a thing thats even made for me to enjoy, nor will I.

[@mikelegault9344]

There was a free comic of Spider-Man at the Calgary stampede getting kids to not do drugs as well, iirc.

[@devononair]

Graham was extremely wrong about Dig Through Time.

[@maywecomein]

For no particular reason the first place my brain went when I heard ice storm was getting reprinted was “this is just like when they reprinted ICY manipulator in ICE age!”

[@drewclark8799]

I was not expecting a reference to Spiders Man. That said, all I remember about Earth X (besides Spiders Man) was the beautiful Alex Ross covers.

[@kevincressman1267]

WE'RE HEREEEEE

[@MookSam]

Omni draft being ranked was so amazing, got me to diamond in draft (Only ever been silver before). And got me to 4 or 5k gems from only around 1k

[@gamerbear84]

Ah, Char's staying on, nice. Finland represent! lol

[@stjepantijan2357]

19:18 In german its called "Future 2"

[@lifestyle936]

I've seen things at conventions that are for my eyes only. That woman is amazing. Once you get a geeky alt girlfriend you keep on that path.

[@Phished123]

I tried the omniscience draft without knowing what the hell it was and was so befuddled. I wanted do try it again but had a wedding this weekend so i missed my chance. It seemed fun, i wish Wizards would just allow us the ability to play these kinds of games when we wanted on Arena. I get that with a draft its better funneled like this to make sure there are people playing it. But man i love playing Momir so much on arena when they let us. I donno if i am alone in this but i would actually, give WOTC a fair amount of money(maybe like 5 bucks? 10 bucks?) for the ability to just play momir on arena.

[@pneuma08]

Yeah so playing against Leyline in BO1 is miserable because you essentially need to have one-mana instant speed removal spells (two-mana might be okay if you win the coin flip) or you have a 20% chance of dying on turn 2, and even if you do there's Turn Inside Out or Felonious Rage which will can generate multiple 2/2s in its wake - plus killing their Heartfire Heroes or Cacophony Scamps may still result in a large amount of damage your way. Blockers are often not enough because both Monstrous Rage and Might of the Meek give trample reliably. The deck is incredibly consistent because of the multiple pieces of redundancy (outside of Leyline which the deck doesn't really need, it just kicks it into overdrive) and runs off of so little mana that cutting mana slots which would be nonsense in paper will still result in a playable hand a lot of the time, partially due to the hand-smoothing algorithms. The game devolves into frantically trying to survive to turn 3 or 4, assuming the opponent missed the 20% of the time they can just kill you on turn 2.

[@colenelson6928]

Choosing Spider-Man for the full set is very interesting to me

[@TheMolator]

Has anyone else not been getting these podcasts in their RSS feed?

[@LRRMTG]

Archive.org (where we host our pods) is still experiencing some issues

[@brysonlambes7175]

The one time I played omni draft, my opponent decked themselves out with mari's grim.

[@anthonylocker599]

Interesting. Graham says he's never seen Crossways Troublemakers before, but didn't he discard them when he was playing Strefan in the Midnight hunt vs.Crimson Vow Commander game?

[@LRRMTG]

Probably! There’s a lot of cards!

[@samgiblett3671]

leyline makes every hand a removal check - you have to have 1 mana removal or you literally die on turn 2

[@KingRarecrazy]

No cards In commander for foundations? Hehe… yeah there are, sorry Nelson

[@kevinwestermann1001]

Future Perfect (known as Futur II) is one of six tempora of the German language.

[@heykak]

Is there a specific reason why the TTC podcast feed has behind by a few week?

[@lancetruesdell7093]

On the new scale, every deck is a 4. It's based on individual cards, every deck has sol ring, which is a 4.

[@LRRMTG]

Sol Ring is not a 4, it’s considered inherent to the format and not ranked in these brackets.

[@quintmarcelis2691]

I was very curious about a discussion about the 'Aligning the Universes' where the boostersets for next year are going into non-eternal formats

[@DanielSolis]

22:49 beep beep

[@spikysmoothness]

Turn 3 or 4 Storm? What's the highest, magical christmas land you could possibly storm off for on turn 4 or 5 after you swing in? Like realistically. An early cast of her does not sound as backbreaking as it looks, oh no grapeshot for 5, maybe? Unless we're im cEDH qnd everyone' playing 0 cost bullshit then yeah, but then we're in cEDH and that just fits right in

[@tzarl]

It's not too difficult in those colors to storm for cEDH, you have some compact win cons that don't require a lot of storming to make a strong play into an instant win, and in casual decks there is a lot of ability for cheap/free rituals/card draw to potentially do some powerful spellslinging the turn after you cast her. I can envision lists that turbos out wins somewhat consistently on turn 4 and uses her as a finisher both inside and out of cedh, though I imagine it will be a feast or famine kind of commander that ends up being a "you got removal? if not, I win" card.

[@bell2jd]

Did you stop publishing the audio to your RSS feed? I haven't had a new episode for three weeks now

[@markbrierley6367]

How dare you cast aspersions on black jelly beans!!!!

[@nik8378]

Graham was wrong about dig through time

[@suNn.K.O]

Kinda wild that Magic story doesn't matter anymore. Was nice to have a format where Story Point A was connected to Story Point B and so on through sets. Guess that's gone.

[@Mordalon]

Literally no it's not, don't be dramatic. Besides, Magic story has always been secondary, and it's actually doing better now than it was a for a long time, including when Magic first had a major popularity surge around Innistrad/Scars. That was an especially low point, yet people look upon that time with nostalgia now.

[@Yarchimedes]

Is this not being uploaded as a podcast anymore 😢 been missing eps in my Spotify feed

[@LRRMTG]

It is! Our hosting site is experiencing issues.

[@Verdoknight]

I don't know guys, as an American, K-Mart is pretty sad.

[@nerdaccount]

Doubling Season!!! I can't bring myself to buy one at $50!! Maybe this get then down to 5? 25???

[@arborealblazer283]

Okay but genuinely Omni draft Friday Night Paper Fight when????

[@arborealblazer283]

I'M SO GLAD GRAHAM KNOWS ABOUT MY FAVORITE SPIDER PERSON SPIDERSMAN!!! HE'S A SWARM OF A FEW THOUSAND SPIDERS THAT COLLECTIVELY BELIEVE THEMSELVES TO BE PETER PARKER

[@EricChoiniere]

Is THAT why Swarm is a Spider-Man villain?

[@arborealblazer283]

@EricChoiniere Amazingly, no!! Swarm is a much older character, first appearing in The Champion #14 in 1977, with Spiders-Man being a relatively recent creation showing up in 2018's Spider-Geddon #3, the sequel to Spider-Verse. Swarm is just a weird little freak that was designed by weirder, littler freaks

[@pyredynasty]

Omni draft is so much fun and Duskmourn was really well suited to it.

[@duskbrood1]

unfortunately to your last point foundations jumpstart is legal in commander, legacy and vintage only

[@wavesofbabies]

I quit Magic this weekend, but im not gonna quit TTC.

[@Jejfimwianfn]

See you next Monday :)

[@Mordalon]

Magic is still good

[@wavesofbabies]

@@Mordalon until 2025 it is.

[@Mordalon]

@@wavesofbabies Nah, stop being an overreacting child.

[@wavesofbabies]

@@Mordalon Grow up and develop some empathy

[@aaron9797]

like the end of tng we will be at las vegas we are at las vagas and have been at las vegas

[@MrThewooter]

Breathe. Meditate. These are cool people who you like. Whatever the context they are cool. Oh and remember to say "button please, no matter the product"

[@zcipher]

Alchemy diverged a bit more from standard when they increase the time before rotation; it stayed at 2 years when standard moved to three. This also saw a precipitous drop in the Alchemy participation rates, because now that almost every Standard deck was illegal in Alchemy, its numbers were no longer being artificially inflated by Arena constantly defaulting to Alchemy, because you could no longer accidentally queue for the wrong format.

[@justincoffman8087]

For the past three weeks this has not shown up in my podcast app. I don't mind watching the KZbin video but like to listen as I work.

[@savewithteak]

I haven't purchased MTG in years ( I am a Flesh and Blood player now) but I will go and buy whatever crazy version of Kamala Khan they print. She and Moon Girl and DD got me into comics

[@colenelson6928]

Any advice for a magic player trying to get into F&B?

[@cpeterso]

Can't wait for the abundance of Universe's Bellend in 2025

[@Olveron]

If I wanted to play a marvel card game. Overpower would have been successful.

[@will2jenk]

Huh

[@twist22]

Graham was wrong about dig through time