Grace Has Her Say (Paul Breach vs Grace Saga) - Envysion Podcast 02

[@caneloplant7726]

Imagine starting a new year waking up with Paul breach

[@user-dh2fs8nd5w]

She’s an actual escort though, she wakes up every day with a new old man in her bed. It’s what she likes, we shouldn’t judge her

[@libby-marielupson1722]

i’m sorry but she said she met him because it would be “fun” and so she can “tell her friends she met paul breach” he’s popping off atm because he’s a pr3da1or and everyone knows that? so why in the world would you wanna meet him?

[@veryironicnoodle]

Why do any of the teenagers that meet him want to take selfies with him? It’s just childish immature behaviour which shows none of them take the allegations seriously and they see him as a harmless joke

[@zacho7012]

@@veryironicnoodle none of them? have you not seen the countless vids of people asking for a photo so they can have a reason to be recording and close enough to confront him and mock him for his actions?

[@veryironicnoodle]

@@zacho7012 and when do they mock him truly? in private. not all of them, some do confront him and they aren't the ones i'm talking about - i am referencing the immature teenagers who think it's funny to take selfies with him and call him a nonce online but never to his face, because they see him as a joke and not as a real danger

[@Larnsdelrey98]

Her claims wouldn’t stand a chance in court with all the podcast/videos she’s making

[@JamieCourtnell]

She's a conversational cul-de-sac

[@nicholasmassey6941]

Oh really, are you a judge ? 😂😂😂

[@sophiecalderbank6550]

She clearly doesnt want that, she clearly wants the “clout”

[@Doodlesspooky]

She says “I didn’t want to be tagged” then goes on to say “he wanted to keep me secret why do you think he didn’t tag me or follow me” is she okay?

[@orangeriesr7968]

I think we forget she's young, she's done something silly and it's got alot bigger than she thought, it gives me the same vibes and when thomas from MAFS did his podcast and talked about everyone, going along with whatever people said or wanted

[@orangeriesr7968]

As for the podcast she booked a hotel but then was hoping to just drop him off and leave, she drives so I don't know how far she lives for her to book a hotel but she said "I'd hope I'd win him over with Premier plus"

[@kimmy9310]

I'm so confused. I thought she said she didn't know who Paul was but then said here that she thought having a photoshoot by Paul breach would be a bit of a laugh to tell her friends?

[@absolutelynot8679]

Her story changes all the time..

[@nicoleflanagan7240]

Regardless of her intentions it doesn’t matter he a 42yr old man, chose to entertain a 19yr old 😑. She sounds immature and that’s because she’s still only 19. She’s not a grown up but in the end PAUL IS A GROWN MAN. What he does may be legal but it doesn’t mean it’s right.

[@Doodlesspooky]

I’m only just 20. I’m mature enough to know that hanging out with a 42 year old is a bit weird. She know who he was. She’d commented on one of his videos the algorithm will have brought all the videos to her. She’s lying in her story and things aren’t making sense. She says “I asked him not to tag me” then later goes on to say “why do you think he didn’t tag me or follow me” when talking about how how wanted to “keep her a secret” when that also isn’t true. He posted her on his insta he had her film a tiktok and captioned it stating a “female was recording”. You’re gullible

[@Emilyxx495]

So she was saying she didn’t know who Paul was and now it’s “I thought it would be a funny story meeting Paul breach” 🤨 she’s not the young naive girl she seems , she could stop this anytime she wanted but she won’t stop talking about him

[@antonimills3224]

Clout chasing from a pedo

[@kaylahewitt4793]

He’s a 40yr old man he should of never even spoke to her

[@Emilyxx495]

@@kaylahewitt4793 that’s opinion based she’s not underage

[@bumblebee9463]

@@Emilyxx495 but the point still stands. He is 40 and she is only 19 he should have thought this through. Meeting a young girl in a hotel room when it’s just the two of them it’s gonna look bad and both of their ways addressing the situation didn’t make it look any better.

[@JamieCourtnell]

She's so lost in the sauce. It's sad

[@jlbduffy8223]

I’m no Paul Breach fan but this young lady is extremely dangerous.

[@lisap3837]

'I've posted on my story' 'I've watched this video' 'I don't know if you saw that video' 'Everyone was saying' 'Everyone agreed' 'I'll post it on my story when I'm ready' Social media is the only thing that's driving her narrative!

[@TheMuckingFuddled]

I saw someone write on tiktok that she’s the most dangerous girl in the U.K., and it isn’t too far from the truth. Girls who lie about this damage real victims being believed

[@Lucy-qz6jx]

Stop defending a grown man who has used a vulnerable girl young enough to be his daughter you sicko.

[@veryironicnoodle]

Lisa you seem rather obsessed with a young girl maybe we should put you on a watchlist with Paul xxx

[@lisap3837]

@very ironic noodle We were both here watching the video so whatever gives you that impression?

[@lastofthemouchers8873]

Shes lapping this up

[@katiewilson1997]

‘Walk into the lingerie aisle with ppl watching us it will be funny’ digging herself a dropper hole here I cba

[@katiewilson1997]

Deeper *

[@lisap3837]

I was there to buy pajamas anyway... what? for your pre planned hotel stay!

[@katiewilson1997]

@@lisap3837 yeppp

[@sharonloryman7279]

Have you never done that with the opposite sex just to embarrass them? I find it hilarious

[@leoniestocks5627]

“I told him not to tag me “ “he wanted to keep me a secret why do you think he didn’t tag me why do you think he didn’t follow me” which one is it I feel like this situation is some what fabricated in parts

[@lisap3837]

pajamas are a weird thing to shop for for just a photo shoot. Just goes to show that at this point they had already decided to stay in a hotel together

[@amelia_xx4037]

any girl my age (19) goes to primark for the pj section 😭 i go all the time it’s the best part about it doesn’t mean im buying them to stay anywhere haha

[@user-dh2fs8nd5w]

@@amelia_xx4037airhead..

[@daniellepattinson8633]

Watched it all the way through. Wow, my mind is blown. Paul is a creep, can’t believe he would entertain a 19 year old. However grace has really slipped up a lot here. She’s said publicly yesterday that Paul grape(d) her but now she’s laughing her way through a podcast and contradicted loads of things she’s said. It’s as if she’s tangled in her lies. Kinda seals the deal at the end by saying that she is getting clout and therefore she’s winning. What I will say is that she’s young and her and Paul are in some deep and dark stuff. It’s going to be a lot for her and I hope she can’t get the help she needs

[@daniellepattinson8633]

* I’m aware that this was filmed before she made those public allegations

[@SameOldPicture]

The podcast was filmed before yesterday and what she implied happened (the grape) between them (him carrying on even though she said no halfway through) Not saying I 100% believe all her stroy but I know someone who that happened to and she didn't even realise saying no halfway and being ignored still counted as grape. It seems Grace learnt this or realised after the episode was filmed

[@anthos1993]

@@SameOldPicture but she said before that the reason it was sexual assault was that he coerced her into it from the start? She’s changed her stories so many times that this defence doesn’t make much sense for it.

[@daniellepattinson8633]

@@SameOldPicture it’s hard because the woman in me would never dismiss a girl’s claims but I can’t just blindly support her after so many things shes contradicted and just her behaviour in general. It’s a very serious allegation but I hope she can keep all of this off social media as I don’t believe it should be for public consumption at this point. I Hope the police investigate and get to the bottom of it all.

[@TheMuckingFuddled]

It’s not a perfect analogy, but as an adult you know if you wind up your kids they’ll react irrationally through anger. They eventually learn not to, but that can happen anywhere from 16-25 for some young people. Paul intentionally got involved with an adult who comes across as a child. The way she acts I’d place her far younger than 19 if I didn’t know better. I’ve got a 16 year old who seems more mature than what I’ve seen of this girl. As an adult he shouldn’t have ever been near her. That said, the actions afterwards certainly don’t make her look trustworthy. Seems she’s lashing out through anger after joking round and sending him gifts on Monday. Hope they both get the mental health treatment they need. Paul to stop talking to young women, Grace to get over whatever happened with Paul.

[@jacnoon1261]

“I’ve been trying to talk less about Paul” proceeds to go on a podcast knowing full well the majority will be about her and Paul. I do not like Paul and I do not like her, doesn’t take a genius to work out she contradicts most things she says in this interview and majority a lie. scary scary behaviour

[@TheMuckingFuddled]

This pod confirmed it for me that she’s doing it for clout. I hope Paul takes her to the police for the false accusations.

[@jacnoon1261]

@@TheMuckingFuddled I genuinely think they’re both as dangerous as eachother and her doing this podcast has outed herself and I think it’s going to get worse from here

[@TheMuckingFuddled]

@@jacnoon1261 yea definitely. Lot of wrong uns on tiktok. The Chinese owners must be loving all the drama it causes in the west

[@nish3978]

Ones a rapist and a groomer and the other isn’t, you absolutely cannot compare them

[@TheMuckingFuddled]

@@nish3978 no evidence of those things. She has made a false accusation of rape which is much more dangerous than anything PBreach has done.

[@sophiecalderbank6550]

How does she have “a funny story to go with this” … in my experience not one part of the night or even anytime after was anything funny.. shes really mocking everyone who has come forward or even just been through something similar. Cant stand paul but she really does seem to know exactly what she was getting into and is clearly happy with where this has ended up with all her “clout”.

[@rachelhunter6821]

She watched his videos and knew who he was but I’m sure she claimed she didn’t know anything about him previously

[@veryironicnoodle]

Been here since her first live! She’s always said she knew who he was and met up with him for a laugh but she did say she just never knew a lot of what she knows now

[@carCke23]

Sorry now but she knew exactly what she was doing. Don't believe her innocent act at all

[@dickelg]

Just a big advert for her only fans

[@lynne2985]

Couldn’t pay me enough to look at what’s under that mouldy jacket of hers lmao

[@ThePrivet18]

Can’t stand this girl. She knew exactly what she was doing. I hate Paul but she is inn the wrong as well. Can’t stand attention seekers

[@miabrown3241]

Literally her points didn’t add up at all

[@Noooooooooooooo000]

Exactly. Shes a fame hungry shameful $l&&g. Who was never taught SHAME. Brainless.

[@0liviacooke]

The amount of podcasts/interviews this girl does at any chance she gets is genuinely concerning like - she needs help. It’s obviously lies her story changes more than the weather

[@bargain-queen]

She said she drove for 3 hours for this podcast aswell I mean wtf she lives the attention it's clear to see

[@daniellepattinson8633]

Given the allegations she’s made against him, this podcast is so strange. Why would she do this?

[@daniellepattinson8633]

The way she’s laughing about the events that led up to the assault is crazy to watch. I feel gross for even doubting her but something isn’t adding up and I can’t ignore it.

[@v3nusplanetoflove645]

@@daniellepattinson8633 some people laugh when they are uncomfortable

[@katiewilson1997]

@@v3nusplanetoflove645 and go live all the time talking about it and joking about it too?

[@TheMuckingFuddled]

@@katiewilson1997and send him gifts

[@yumyumlotus]

didnt realise victims had to act a certain way to be valid thanks danielle

[@chloecath4207]

Says she didn’t record calls but she posted the calls on her tiktok 🤔

[@daniellepattinson8633]

“Paul if you’re here” *laughs to the camera* whew 😅

[@wendalboy]

I need a hot choccy woccy to watch this

[@lucyscott9893]

Crying 😂😂😂

[@RealAly]

“Yeah, that doesn’t sound like a photographer to me” HAHAH

[@kimmy9310]

The way I was wheezing 💀😭

[@charlottestevensonn3396]

What has she been recording if she “doesn’t record the phone calls?” Confused is it not phone calls she’s been showing us?

[@Indierawrr]

I’m not sure when this was filmed but the voice notes have been posted on Reddit and TikTok

[@CRFootball851]

She said she didn’t record the first phone call .. after she met him she clearly realised she needed to start recording them

[@k20yooo95]

Nah there's more to this than she's admitting 🤣 obviously he's a creep but she's just as creepy

[@bargain-queen]

They slept together

[@rebeccac6464]

Not excusing paul in ANY way, but she has histrionic vibes to me.

[@kyq9097]

She’s an opportunist

[@lg6757]

Some people just aren’t made for doing podcasts. Don’t give up ya day jobs lads

[@jasmine_spicy98]

They’re doing alright for hosting a podcast

[@Whereisjaygoing]

Hi Paul 👋

[@Noooooooooooooo000]

Exactly theyre such losers

[@lg6757]

@@Whereisjaygoing They won’t shag you mate

[@Teaselpoppy]

Scary how she said she felt like she couldn't leave. He's a total controlling predator whether or not she went along willingly. She needs to wise up now and use this as a lesson going forward. Now you've met a narcissist never forget. Be careful Grace, you've a long way to go before you're smart.

[@jacksmith5064]

She already lied 2 mins into the podcast. Messages already showing her asking him when they wanted to meet.

[@sarahc643]

Why you giving her even more air time? She knew exactly what she was doing

[@leighmegan13]

28:55 is comedy gold

[@RenN1990]

But she said she never heard of him before the photoshoot! Now she's saying she went for shoot to tell her friends she "met Paul breach" 🤦🏽‍♀️ which one is it?

[@oliviaforbes3809]

No she said on a video that she knew him from cringey videos on tiktok. Not the drama surrounding him

[@anthos1993]

@@oliviaforbes3809 right so she contacted and drove to meet a complete stranger who is an internet meme for being a weirdo and nonce and stayed the night… and it’s fine because her FYP was just funny videos of him? Anyone with half a brain would’ve looked at comments etc, it’s almost impossible not to know the accusations against Paul.

[@oliviaforbes3809]

@@anthos1993 she said she didn’t know him for that

[@RenN1990]

@@oliviaforbes3809 There is no way you can come across paul on tiktok and not know the drama that is surrounding him!! How gullible can you be 😂

[@ThePrivet18]

@@oliviaforbes3809 stop being a stupid idiot and defending her lies

[@bethmbam4848]

Y’all accents are too cute ❤

[@ohkaythen93]

I'm 31 and don't drive, I have a house a fiance and 2 cats, if that's any good?

[@emlouuuu4638]

Good for what?

[@holliegroux2225]

This is embarrassing!

[@kaylahewitt4793]

Even if she did know what was going on Paul’s 40 something he should of never agreed to anything

[@bennybenny7382]

19 year olds are pretty cute and super hot, women tend not to get better after age 25 or so.

[@kaylahewitt4793]

@@bennybenny7382 wtf is wrong with u 🤢

[@jacnoon1261]

How can you be pretty sure if staff recognised you and said hi grace? Surely you’d know if they did or not

[@vivienwhite8362]

She also said that she went to her old shop when she was with him and followed on with I didn’t know that all the old staff went to the new store. 3:54

[@elv4329]

right that was so weird she said she’s ‘pretty sure’ they recognised her because they said ‘hi grace’. if they said hi to you and called you by your name you wouldn’t be ‘pretty sure’ they recognised you, youd just know. just shows it’s lie after lie

[@jacnoon1261]

@@elv4329 exactly. Madness isn’t it

[@casparthomas4775]

She messaged him first this was completely her fault

[@veryironicnoodle]

He could have said no to all of this… he chose her out of thousands of DMs from other young girls. If it wasn’t Grace he would meet another girl

[@Spidermilkk]

Gross

[@katiewilson1997]

@@veryironicnoodle and she didn’t have to contact him in the first place but here we are …

[@liv4259]

bummed paul breach for a bit of clout shes not some influencer

[@h0rsefuneral]

Quality Paul breach moment28:49

[@jimmysands1967]

Women aren't jealous of this girl.

[@Danieeeification]

Even if she did meet him for “a laugh0”what’s such a laugh about meeting and sleeping with Paul breach 🫠

[@infectate3466]

quality is dog water

[@christinalewis6355]

She is really not making herself seem credible

[@anthos1993]

She needs to start writing down her lies in a notebook, every time she opens her mouth she says something that contradicts what she said the day before. She needs to shut up before it’s proven she’s lied, then she can genuinely be in trouble. Idiots like her do nothing but fuck up stuff for real victims. Makes me sick.

[@roseygirl8853]

She knew what she was doing

[@bethmbam4848]

The real question is, did she have to go all the way in her spy espionage mission…. Because if so, thanks for taking one for the team girl you’re never going to not here green green grass playing in your head rent free.

[@katiewilson1997]

She just said it would be’ funny ‘ to do the photoshoot 😒

[@daniellepattinson8633]

I know. It’s crazy.

[@brontestewart6381]

Do people still pay for minutes?

[@sharonloryman7279]

I loved how the lads handled the sensitive subject and how they were with Grace. Grace also came across well. Someone with ADHD struggles to keep focussed for that long and you could tell she was a little uncomfortable at times but who wouldn't? She was manipulated and intimidated by a man who is old enough to be her dad. I loved the podcast, mixed with some giggles and also a popular serious topic, will be watching again

[@fallrain910]

What's her socials

[@22keebo]

Exactly what she wants ! Ppl like you to subscribe

[@orangeriesr7968]

Not watched any of your other podcasts but I think you should have a round table and be more separated because psychology its like your ganged up at one corner, would make the conversation more free flowing

[@gloup4662]

Talking about such serious situations, I hope both young men appreciate the severity of having these discussed with equally young women, when they are quite traumatising. The guys awkward laughs made it always feel less supportive, she needed to talk a councillor about those kinds of things, or perhaps people a little older. it’s a lot.

[@Usapangmoney]

i love your topic.

[@jasmine_spicy98]

I just don’t understand why she wouldn’t research properly who she’s seeing and why she stayed for 2 days. I’m glad she’s got recordings on Paul for evidence to the police.

[@christinalewis6355]

The recordings don't prove any crime though. They don't really prove anything at all apart from them both acknowledging that they slept together

[@jasmine_spicy98]

@@christinalewis6355 they are a start at the least though. Surely he has to be honest with the police about the age of the baby mum though.

[@Charlotte_rachelx]

@@jasmine_spicy98 which was 17 and id legal in the UK? Therefore no crime was committed

[@veryironicnoodle]

In the podcast she says she didnt even intend on going inside his hotel room! Lots of different things kept her there. A, being paranoid of Paul stalkers creeping up on her and following her, B, an ex bf of hers that she was clearly scared of was outside her flat when she wanted to go home and C she was attacked and was too scared to go back outside because she thought they were trying to kill her. It’s external +internal (aka Paul being manipulative) reasons that unfortunately kept her there for an unnecessary amount of time

[@jasmine_spicy98]

@@veryironicnoodle A call the police instead of taking photos, going to a Mac Donald’s and going on TikTok live to get away into safety B call the police to remove him and head to a friends/parents while waiting for the ex to be removed from the property C call the police to safely be escorted out. You can even text police to be discrete about needing to leave She says she only intended on photos but discussed hotels and stayed overnight.

[@jhallumsable]

Carry on the good work lads😎

[@andrinalyons6960]

She did a really good summary of Paul and I have to say they young guys interviewing her were very professional 👌

[@xFIFAxKIDx]

never seen such a beg

[@georgiapowell4910]

Why did she say she didn’t record the phone calls but has no released “voice recordings”from the calls

[@amywarren4309]

Different phone calls

[@leigh1220]

Think she means she recorded the ones after they’d slept together but not the call when they first made plans to meet

[@bargain-queen]

Wonder what her parents think about only fans bc I don't think its a good idea tbh 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

[@audreyharalambos2592]

the over use of the word" like "drives me mad but it was a good interview x

[@0liviacooke]

Never seen a ‘victim’ enjoy themselves as much as her - she’s embarrassing

[@anthos1993]

It’s because she has so many idiots blindly supporting her. She even said she felt pressured to say all the stuff about Paul, she could get in a lot of trouble for the lies she’s spewed out.

[@clarissa3745]

A lot of people use humour to cope, or they say it like it’s a story and block out the reality. I don’t think it’s anyones place to judge how she responds to trauma

[@Mo-hf4zo]

This is just her trying to cope with the fact she was rped. She is allowed to talk about it and be public about it. Hope that it never happens to you or anyone you love

[@v3nusplanetoflove645]

@@anthos1993 how do you know she’s lying

[@0liviacooke]

@@Mo-hf4zo it’s pretty obvious she’s lying like, her story has changed about 6 times in the past 2 weeks. If this was ‘my loved one’ as you say, I can promise you they wouldn’t do every interview/podcast they possible can about such a ‘traumatic situation’. Some of y’all need to touch grass, she knew exactly what she was doing. She willingly met up, spent the day with doing photos and some for the p0rn page and SLEPT with someone, who is well known & considered dodgy - may I add she said she had no idea who he was when she messaged him but now says she knew who he was and wanted a laugh. Like ?? She’s an odd ball

[@OMFGandalf]

i wanna do mental health nursing + onlyfans... Something doesn't add up

[@carriecoombes1872]

Regardless of whether is true or whatever. Fair play to the girl, for standing up for herself and letting people know what he was like. Everyone’s bitching about Grace and calling her all these names, but what about if it was your daughter, sister, cousin etc? Think about the words you use and the way you put your comments across. Like she said, everyone has found her out and searched for her so don’t bitch. You gave her the fame almost, by searching for her…

[@anthos1993]

“Regardless of whether it’s true or whatever”, no. False allegations are dangerous. They make it harder for actual victims too. This girl has lied constantly and it’s been proven. She’s lost track of the lies she’s said multiple times. Nothing brave or commendable about this dangerous woman.

[@v3nusplanetoflove645]

@@anthos1993 she’s neurodivergent so she struggles to put things together and speak clearly

[@lynne2985]

If that was my daughter / sister / friend ect I would tell them to STOP with the false allegations as that is illegal. STOP with all the social media and get some mental health help. But no all she wants is views and subs to her Of

[@sophiecalderbank6550]

The fact shes doing a podcast and not sat in court is the answer really init..

[@Hannah-uj4xx]

This is so awkward wow

[@anthos1993]

You’d think she would’ve brushed her hair before this or something. Never seen a victim enjoy themselves this much when talking about their assaulter but hey, each to their own I guess. 💀

[@ashwinbhandari1989]

It's called making light of something traumatic to cope, sorry she didn't burst into tears for your amusement.

[@0liviacooke]

Completely agree

[@anthos1993]

@@ashwinbhandari1989 okay so what about the constant lying that she’s been caught out with? Hm?

[@ThePrivet18]

Exactly

[@katiewilson1997]

@@ashwinbhandari1989 I’m guessing you haven’t seen the amount of milking this situation she’s done then ?

[@katiewilson1997]

She needed some way to get more OF subs…

[@katieplayz8155]

Let her get her bag worry about your own

[@anthos1993]

@@katieplayz8155 make her bag by lying about being sexually assaulted? Weird take

[@katiewilson1997]

@@katieplayz8155 by lying about SA? and joking about the whole thing? Not the way I’d do things but okkkkk

[@han2252]

ur proper obsessed w her done about 5 comments on this vid alone get a grip

[@katiewilson1997]

@@han2252 stfu first of, Ive posted 3 not 5 learn to count, its a youtube comment, didnt know there was a limit to how many comments i could put nd also i was commenting while watching incase I didnt mention anything the first time,YOU get a grip find real things to be worried about

[@andiegtt]

What would you rather? Support someone who turns out to be lying or not support someone who turns out to be telling the truth? There needs to be more awareness into vulnerability and different ways of dealing with trauma, im not saying anything but a lot of people clearly have very rigid thinking when it comes to trauma, trauma is insanely complex and UNIQUE TO EACH BRAIN

[@matthewspeed361]

She is young looking and acting seems about 12

[@audreyharalambos2592]

Too many of the word “like” so annoying over and over again but the interview about beady eyes breach.

[@aimeegittings18]

600 pound a month is good for a 19 year old

[@alfiealfietolleytolleu6518]

It’s really not 😂

[@anthos1993]

It’s not when you’re selling your body for it, I wouldn’t sell myself that cheaply ffs it’s not even minimum wage ahhhh 😂

[@Kaygrego]

7k a year? No one can live on that. Unless she possibly still lives at home.

[@amacliney-wright9933]

@@anthos1993 the £600 a month was from universal credit

[@Doodlesspooky]

Especially on UC

[@andiegtt]

Whoever’s reading this… you can choose to speak about any of your experiences and it’s okay to not react like the stereotype when dealing with trauma…

[@Agentt4777]

Clout chasing 101

[@gracechristina8869]

I just think she’s really naive which makes sense she is only 19. If you are sticking up for Paul you need help

[@emmadylan1]

He needed a nervous shit 😂😂