Grading the WORST Takes in NBA History

[@pyrac.]

good video, but you mixed up hot and cold takes. hot take meaning its more controversial, whereas cold take meaning its more agreed upon.

[@hellraiser420]

Right

[@10ftblanket]

nah it’s more of a spectrum. a good take is a medium, lukewarm whereas a hot take is bonkers and a cold take is just completely wrong

[@DonleyDoesIt]

Nah. Cold means its not that wild. Hot means is a wild take. As in hot to touch. Will burn things up. Make people heated. Nobody using the way you just described. Cold takes are the safe takes. ​@10ftblanket21

[@MarcoSonzogni-nm3ml]

​@@10ftblanket cold means its not wild hot means its wrong.

[@lvxtu3472]

@@MarcoSonzogni-nm3mlhot takes doesn’t necessarily mean it’s wrong. If you said in 2000 when he was drafted “Tom Brady will go down in NFL history as the greatest quarterback to ever live” you’d be laughed at. That’s an INCREDIBLY hot take but at the same time it’s correct.

[@josephholman2401]

You don't seem to know what a hot or cold take is. A cold take is something that everyone agrees upon, it's been out for a while so it's gotten cold. A hot take is something new and not thought of. The manziel thing was a terrible take but a hot take nonetheless bc nobody had thought that before he said it making it "hot" like something fresh.

[@ThatBoyKlink]

A cold take is a take that ages so shitty lollll

[@ThatBoyKlink]

A cold take is something that ages so badly lol it's a take that ages so badly it becomes cold or freezing lol

[@bigbangbasketball]

Hey let the man cook alright

[@botanistedward]

It seems like he just got them confused. But I agree, very strange hearing him say the Lebron takes are “cold” lmao

[@Shabasam19]

“Fate of the universe on the line…..” never gets old 😂😂. Miss Max.

[@BasketballForeverOfficial]

😂

[@staras7337]

Tbh in that time, iggy had way better clutch %, so he wasnt that wrong

[@improbablyyourdad8458]

​@@staras7337 facts. Steph was known for going cold in the clutch. Iggy had multiple game winning shots.

[@pug6322]

​​@@improbablyyourdad8458​ the problem is. Max never even brought up how steph was being guarded in those situations. Being double teamed and having the opposing team's best defender on him. Iggy is clutch but context also matters when comparing them to steph. One the biggest examples is the clutch 3 iggy hit in game 2 in 2019 finals The defense was primarily focused on steph and iggy was wide open

[@4yze]

@@pug6322Ironically, this is one of the reasons Iggy was doing better in the clutch. So fate of the universe on the line, Martians got the death ray pointed at the building, I might take a wide open Iggy over a doubled Steph too.

[@ZacBLive]

I listened for 4 minutes and then checked the comments to see if everyone else was thinking how awful this video is.

[@jackveeder4896]

it’s honestly ridiculous as a basketball youtuber to not know what a hot or cold take is

[@joeycouch3179]

Dude I’m glad I’m not the only one

[@eddietran5803]

remember when cowherd said ben Simmons could take over Lebron as the face of the league in 2016? lmao

[@dirtgames13]

That wasn't even a crazy take, at the time everyone thought Simmons would be elite

[@Splackavellie85]

That wasn’t a bad take. Ben Simmons played extremely similar to LeBron and it was clear that he had all time potential with his size and skillset. He was strong and fast, had extremely good court vision, great passing and was an All NBA defender at his best. He just needed to develop a shot, just like LeBron had to. He never did that, and he turned out to not have the mentality to work beyond his talents.

[@jasonmoukala8909]

@@dirtgames13yeah but better than bron elite?

[@h2owl205]

@@jasonmoukala8909it really wasn’t that far fetched, especially considering how much bigger Ben was than LeBron. I think the key difference was the expectations weren’t nearly as high for Ben, so the hype surrounding him wasn’t as massive

[@bigbangbasketball]

Aged like fine milk

[@NickKelland]

Colin Cowherd is never right

[@Gothiccbadboy666]

He the one I enjoy the most cause he be bullshitting like crazy and you can tell he just say the most outrageous thing ever to get attention but it just funny to me

[@fluff975]

to his credit he called the bucks winning in 2021, but he's yea been so colossally wrong one too many times to be considered a credible source at this point lol. "lebron--we're good bro. you can go. ben simmons is here."

[@jasonugwu8326]

The „I want Iguodala“ take wasn’t even bad at the time. Curry was not clutch at the time

[@shufflechen]

straight bs ....

[@williamraisbeck9382]

Shaq COULD be argued to be the 5th best centre. 1) Kareem. No argument there. 2) Bill Russell, 11 rings would be his case. 3) Hakeem, he swept Shaq in the finals and if you gave Hakeem a side kick as good as Kobe.... well heck. 4) wilt, he has the record for the most records in the league.

[@rainbowjeremy-t3v]

1. Wilt 2. Hakeem 3 Shaq 4 Kareem 5 Russel

[@FinneganMurray-pb2ej]

Stupid list bro.

[@rainbowjeremy-t3v]

@@FinneganMurray-pb2ej Reason?

[@FinneganMurray-pb2ej]

Don’t mean to be rude, but wilt is overrated, and Kareem is objectively the best Center ever. He’s got the rings, MVPs, points, and defense to prove it. As great as wilt was, he couldn’t win a ring until he was way past his prime and no longer the best player on his team.

[@rainbowjeremy-t3v]

@@FinneganMurray-pb2ej ok. Hakeem > Shaq > Kareem > Wilt > Russel

[@markomanx]

Max was spot on at the time for the Iguodala take. Curry was not very clutch when he made that take... like, there's a clear reason Iguodala won FMVP, and it's because Curry did not dominate when he probably should have.

[@JustinLeeper]

Mad Dog is an automatic channel-changer for me. I do see SAS’s point about Leonard not representing his team and the league like most superstars do. That was what he was talking about - not Leonard’s skills/stats.

[@h2owl205]

It’s amazing how many people to this day don’t understand what having a hot take means

[@lukacalov1988]

0 is number of days that Pierce was better than Wade after Wades rookie season

[@lacy144320]

Facts

[@SomeDude998]

Completely different type of players.

[@Kratos69zzzz]

I have waited for these type of videos 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@antonioleon3123]

Max gave some stats to back kawhi being clutcher

[@NicholasKelland]

Stephen A and Skip should have the top 8 hahaha

[@jeremyrodriguez6760]

Shaq says Hakeem is better than him. Your take on that subject should be on the list.

[@Twoostressed]

I WANT IGUDOLA is such good meme material

[@nbarealtalker]

LeGM choking that 2011 Finals gave Skip Bayless an entire career for every season thereafter. Had LeBron even won the last 13 in a row, Skip wouldn’t have skipped a beat 🤣

[@MarcoSonzogni-nm3ml]

stephen a didnt said that kawhi likes to get injured and didnt said he all time is the worst superstar he is saying in 2022 2023 kawhi is the worst superstar to have and he is damn right

[@fluff975]

shaq being the 5th best center is not a wild take. he had arguably the greatest peak, but overall kareem, russell, wilt, hakeem all definitely have valid arguments to be ahead of him

[@frankjackson7590]

Stop smoking

[@fluff975]

@@frankjackson7590 i did 4 yrs ago actually

[@frankjackson7590]

@@fluff975 you know I didn’t mean literally but I’ll give you this shaqs number 1 though🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@fluff975]

@@frankjackson7590 ik u didn't i was just fking w u but hell na lmao hes not better than kareem russell wilt or hakeem. at his peak he was as good if not the best but it was too short-lived imo

[@frankjackson7590]

@@fluff975 true he could’ve been better if he put the work in consistently

[@GaelGamaa]

Skip Bayless is correct. Lebron will not go down as a top 3 player in the nba

[@Joeman_Joeman]

Give us a Part 2!!!!! ❤

[@imjchillin]

Man I wish you included the clip of them comparing Dwade’s accolades to Pierce’s and you see his face get more and more sad as they keep comparing

[@NEOQEAVCS2]

8:30 is partially right. Kareem, Bill, Wilt, Hakeem, then Shaq

[@slicedbread3659]

kareem? sure. bill? maybe. Wilt? no. The league back then had far worse opposition and the pace was so much faster, resulting in far more points. As for Hakeem, I dont know what you're smoking, Shaq is easily greater than Hakeem. He won more and was a better player overall compared to Hakeem.

[@Tofuey]

​@slicedbread3659 Shaq literally says Hakeem is better then him. Hakeem is the best defender ever, and was one of the best offensive centers of his era.

[@slicedbread3659]

@@Tofuey Shaq was better offensively. He was far more dominant and whilst not being as good as hakeem on defense, the offensive gap makes up for it.

[@nbabackcourtmedia]

Kareem and Hakeem I’d have over Shaq, I disagree with Bill and Wilt though

[@nbabackcourtmedia]

@@slicedbread3659even if you believe that Shaq was better offensively, the gap is not large at all, and not large enough to make up for the defensive gap imo

[@teogotdasauce4233]

4:00 still cracks me up out loud to this day, 😂😂

[@qbcomicaddict2590]

Hakeem and chamberlain I wouldn’t get mad at above shaq. Wilt was a bigger freak of nature and Hakeem has more talent meaning he can make shots 😂

[@FinneganMurray-pb2ej]

Def Hakeem. Shaq is probably 3rd tho.

[@IsaiasMGPalafox]

This was extremely hard to watch. 😭😭😭

[@infiniteuniverse9528]

Kawhi was also the "Clutch" player who choked at the FT line with a chance to close out the championship for the Spurs vs Miami. Instead he goes 1-2 down the stretch leaving the door open for Ray Allen's 3.

[@NicolasAristizabal-rb3ju]

Fuck no it ain’t close, I’d take Wade over Paul “Shat himself in the finals” Pierce any day of the weak

[@theYT_moderator]

Bro the worst take was when they were CONSIDERING CURRY IN THE GOAT CONVERSATION BRO WHAT?!?!?

[@peteytaylor2225]

I’m sorry but the coldest take of the entire vid was at 9:09 saying Paul Pierce is one of “the greatest players ever” 😭😭

[@Oso_99]

“What? Well who’s the 4 ahead of Shaquille O’Neal have you lost your Damn mind?” Man that 💩 will never get old I was rolling on the ground he was so serious when he said that 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Manoop33]

1:07, wow MVP of the Olympics, so crazy. Olympics don’t even matter.

[@djthakid91]

Since when doesn't the Olympics matter, cause If team USA would have lost oh it definitely would have mattered...

[@Manoop33]

@@djthakid91 yeah because the US has a team made of nba All-Stars. While the rest of the teams don’t even have a full roster of NBA players.

[@djthakid91]

@@Manoop33 And that matters why? It doesn't change the fact that the Olympics still matter.

[@Manoop33]

@@djthakid91 Michael Jordan won more Olympics than bron did. According to your logic, then Michael Jordan is the goat.

[@djthakid91]

@@Manoop33 no he didn't... Plz fact check.

[@meh7348]

The sigh and eye roll when Skip was giving his Toronto take 😂

[@juliantperez]

Kawhi is the worst superstar in history. Let me explain his skill is amazing, at his peak like a top 3 player in the league. But he's always hurt and unreliable and that's what makes him the worst superstar ever. Look at the clippers the last 4 years. They were amazing, but u could always count on kawhi being hurt which sucked. So it's not the skill, it's just that kawhi is unreliable and unfortunately is always hurt. Newest example, this summer with team USA.

[@obonsu45]

I’m sorry, Stephen a was not wrong about the kahwi take, dude literally proved it on team USA, dude was there for the team pick and dipped. Also he really doesn’t do too much to market himself and the clippers.

[@nfg2048]

Steven A’s new Kawhi take is kinda accurate

[@MarcoSonzogni-nm3ml]

cowherd didnt said what u said in the first clip, and wasnt wrong in the second since clippers were better that szn. n1 seed

[@wells7228]

Stephen A Smith's podcast is WILD

[@MikeHunt-fo3ow]

if bron was down 3-1 the 3ball did take his impact away which was true up until that point.....

[@thanos8914]

I’ll never forget when everyone said scoot was more NBA ready than Wemby and will win rookie of the year 😂

[@treyjenkins5672]

How you gonna leave out the Tom Brady cliff theory!?

[@sharkgirl2234]

weird to mess up cold and hot takes lol

[@MotpyrCNesia]

If you want flop takes just go with, 2022-23 Miami Heat playoff-run, Doncic bust takes before getting draft, And "Warriors is done" takes before 2022 run.

[@saijuhr3206]

Stephen A. Smith wasnt necessarily wrong about Kawhi, his take was purely about his availability, and he goes on to say that. That's why he referred to him as a superstar. He's saying nobody has ever reached the heights Kawhi has with such a long history of injuries.

[@MarcoSonzogni-nm3ml]

in 2007 cavs should have been in the finals the east was weak

[@kelearl3772]

Make part 2

[@BasketballForeverOfficial]

Stay tuned!

[@tommyijr2814]

Lmao saying Paul Pierce is one of the greatest players ever was the whackest take of the video 😂😂

[@tb89117]

Hakeem is better than Shaq though

[@zachschannel6161]

Hakeem is better all around but Shaq was way more dominant

[@thesaurusakasickakatheomc7688]

If LeBron played poorly, but well in the last two Olympic games of 2024, he still would have been named MVP for the Olympics. Yes, I'm saying LeBron was tge predetermined Olympics MVP. Yes, I am also directly comparing him to the man who actually brought a gold medal home for Team USA.

[@MrBubblecake]

Kareem and Hakeem we’re both better than Shaq but wilt was not It’s their shooting ability on to top of everything else they can do that puts them over Shaq

[@rubenmartinez6796]

That D Wade vs. Pierce debate to me isn't actually that close. To me, D Wade was clearly the better player.

[@vintagect7745]

2019 finals fred vanvleet was the only other person to get a finals mvp vote

[@Splackavellie85]

I don’t agree with Wilt, but Hakeem is definitely above Shaq. He has twice the MVP’s and even though Shaq has four rings, Hakeem’s are arguably tougher. They’re certainly more of a one man show than Shaq’s rings, which came alongside the second and third best shooting guards in NBA history. And for his last ring, Shaq was the backup to Alonzo Mourning, so that’s a freebie. Not only that, but Hakeem beat Shaq. Badly, especially in direct matchups. Sure, that wasn’t 2000 Shaq yet, but he wasn’t that far off either. And Hakeem was in his 11th season and 32 years old. He wasn’t in his prime either and still pulled off an all time playoff run. Hakeem was the better defender, more versatile and more skilled. He was the blueprint that guys like Embiid are trying to follow 30 years later. He was the guy that taught Lebron his post moves and made him into a post monster. He is the player that was picked before Michael, and nobody ever argues that it was a bad pick. Hakeem was that good.

[@Haysbrbsngalvsusn]

Thanks man. Glad to see someone defending the Dream

[@williamraisbeck9382]

Ryan Hollins saying Russell Westbrook was good enough on his own to beat the 2017 warriors in a series.

[@marcuswolin4454]

Worst superstar take is not about injuries. It is about how Kawhi does not seek the media attention like Jordan, Bron, and Curry do. When was the last time you saw Kawhi in a commercial? You can argue this is nbd, but Kawhi is definitely not seeking the attention like many other stars.

[@qbcomicaddict2590]

lol kristaps won his first championship. What a contribution 😂

[@farrukhbafoyev1200]

Porzingis got his ring while being like number 4 in his team

[@Com.1a]

4:00 TBH curry is 0-16 on go ahead shots in the final minute of a playoff game so I can see that being true

[@THAGFC]

SAS wasn’t saying that Kawhi Leonard was one of the worst players because he thinks he likes being hurt half the time he doesn’t even believe that he’s hurt it’s exactly what he said KL doesn’t play 😩 and for a superstar player he’s kinda gotta point there

[@TheWrestlingMerchant21]

Where's Lavar saying he beat MJ 1vs1

[@bigbangbasketball]

People that say the bubble games were a fluke are delulu

[@ThisQuack]

I’m expecting a ton of Nick Wright takes

[@brad8242]

To be fair, the only reason the Lakers won in 2020 was because a 35 year old LeBron and an oft-injured AD were giving months off to rest before the final few games and playoffs

[@tenafter10]

So they only won because they was healthy?? Um ok, great take 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@deecliff6896]

They win because they were the most disciplined team in the bubble

[@tbmdpacalypse3754]

The whole league was given a rest

[@jasonmoukala8909]

This is such a horrendous take

[@jasonugwu8326]

Probably the worst take on the 2020 lakers I have seen. So they only won because they got a rest acting like the other teams didn’t ????

[@zhou.mp4]

Thats why Charles Barkley hates skip bayless😂

[@Jeremy-is6dy]

I don't know what LeBron has done to skip bayless, but this must be horrible.

[@lvrbad5588]

I want Igoudala is not a cold take lmao, mans can hit some clutch shots

[@slaugmromni6743]

Shaq IS the 5th greatest center of all time. 1. Kareem 2. Wilt 3. Russell 4. Hakeem 5. Shaq

[@colbydavis8757]

How we get off ignoring Bill Russel in a list of all time centers? People don’t credit him cause it’s “so long ago” but the midpoint of Russel’s prime (1965) is 25 years off the midpoint of Jordan’s prime (1990), which is 25 years off the midpoint of Lebron’s prime (2015). If Russel being 25 years before Jordan and Shaw disqualifies his accomplishments, then Jordan being 25 years before Lebron disqualifies his accomplishments, too. Russel is at least top 5 all time at any position and of course with 11 rings is ahead of Shaq. Centers: Russel, Kareem, Hakeem, Shaq, Wilt, Malone. But putting Wilt over Shaq is not crazy. I love Shaq but he’s either 4 or 5 on the list, and Maddog’s take should bore us. Wtf.

[@rayeurill9322]

Bro cowhard is a bron fanboy not worthy of this great video but I get it lol

[@jestermonk6805]

Balco, that new juice

[@MikeHunt-fo3ow]

predicting shit aint easy

[@zhou.mp4]

Top 5 Dumb analyst 1. Skip Bayless 2. Kendrick Perkins 3. Mad Dog 4. Ryan Hollins 5. Stephen A./Max Kellerman

[@ronaldmibieli4009]

The shaq one isn’t cold. Prove me wrong.

[@FerrellScott-v3u]

What do you not understand about a Bubble ring? Sheesh.

[@Jake-im8eq]

“More of an opinion than a take”…aren’t all takes opinions? Lol

[@balluptop-n4u]

Although Kawhi is better in the clutch than Kobe 😂

[@Jboooog18]

The kawhi and Kobe take wasn’t that crazy. Max said up to that particular point on their respective careers and gave his reasons why and the other two just brushed every point off.

[@saul-goodman]

The worst people are those who don’t take your opinion seriously because you disagree with a player. Just because you’re good at something doesn’t mean you’re unbiased in your opinions about it. Paul Pierce thinks he’s better than Dwyane Wade. I disagree and both guys are much better than me at basketball. Criticism is relative to their peers, not the average person

[@TheBosnian-l4j]

Guys, I was wondering why a lot of american tv presentators (mainly ex nba players) hate European players ? And also, why all the hate on Rudy Gobert ?

[@hellraiser420]

You confused hot takes and cold takes

[@dare2fail]

This video was uploaded 2 months ago and Lebron still isn’t 40. If you’re going to make a video criticizing others, at least state facts.

[@SomeDude998]

Maddog has watched a lot of basketball. Shaq is probably around 4th. He’s not off by much, if any.

[@jamespuso1627]

Ahhh I wouldn't be that hard on the Mad Dog take, if he'd just said Bill Russell instead of Moses Malone that'd be a pretty normal ranking. But for Paul Pierce saying he was better than D-Wade like....I get these guys had to have wild self confidence to get where they were but that's ice cold like, people forget how good D-Wade was before the knee injuries these days but for a while nobody would have called you crazy if you thought D-Wade was the best player out of the '03 draft like, THAT'S how good he was. Even as late as like 2011 there were people saying he was the best player on the Miami Heat. Largely because LeBron just deferred to him in the finals but partly too because he balled when he did.

[@LukeRouquette]

iggy has more buzzer beaters than curry btw

[@jake_1600]

Bro Doesn’t kno wat a hot or cold take is

[@DonleyDoesIt]

A cold take is a take that isn't that controversial and a hot take is one that is, as in its hot to touch, good video aside from that.

[@ftwsam2246]

Skip Bayless hates Kawhi for leaving the Spurs. That's it. Now who would you rather have right now, Kobe Bryant at the end of his career or injury prone Kawhi Leonard?

[@Red-qv4nb]

You know for a fact the lakers didn’t look like the best team in the league in 2020 lmao the bucks nets 76ers and suns were looking like the teams to beat pre-Covid lockdown, and then the bubble allowed for some goofy things to happen and the heat make the finals and lakers of course demolished them

[@leronhilton8084]

Wow the lebron glazing it wild. Bron is not impactful, just look at the lakers last 3 years. He just dominate the ball thus having more opportunities to gather those stats.

[@coolesst]

Bro Kristaps really wasn’t a great pick

[@lacy144320]

Wade over peirce isn't even close

[@tootrillion]

Guys listen. Jus because a take is eventually proven wrong. Doesn’t mean it’s a bad take. It’s generally based on event up to that point. Things change “lebron not winning” in 2016. Was a fair take at the time. And I hated gs. The mfs were down 3-1. My idea of a bad take is a take that has absolutely no merit and reason at all to be held in the court of sports law. That’s jus me

[@shin0012]

arent you confusing hot takes and cold takes. hot takes are more agreed upon as being wrong. plus cant really blame him calling kawhi the worst superstar. isnt entirely his fault his knees are giving up but getting max money for basically sitting at home year in and year out.

[@Roundsideup]

The heat shouldn’t have been in the finals in 2011??

[@aidangoodwin7031]

Is Kawhi the worst superstar of all time? Absolutely not. Does his unavailability due to injury make him significantly worse than his skills let on? Yes.

[@zo615]

PP is not one of the best players ever bro💀

[@Kanes_x]

You wrong on the iggy take tbh

[@adn267]

Yea but LeBron changed his game to shoot for threes, proving the point. They might’ve come back that year, but they lost all other times to the warriors

[@KlassiusK]

Lebron is one of the greatest but that take about him not being as impactful as other greats before him specifically in the money time of big games has been widely documented and isn't that crazy at all. It doesnt take anything from Lebron and his achievements, but there is hard evidence that Lebron tends to fade out at the times you'd expect him to be lifted up with desire to shine.