Thanks for showcasing, even when working on them I sometimes forget how bad the originals were (especially the likes of the 190E and Crossfire), so having them side by side like this is great.
@chrischarizard4067 Жыл бұрын
Hey the sound you put on the clk gtr... Although the rpm doesn't match it too well, the rpm and tone sound really good for the E55 AMG, do you think you could put it on that car? I own one in real-life and just realized GT4 actually had one, but the normal sound is so wrong lol
@TheAdmiester Жыл бұрын
@@chrischarizard4067 It's a bit raw for a stock E55 to be honest, I could consider putting it in as the top exhaust upgrade, but right now it's using the same sound I made for the SL55/SLR.
@henrique6282 Жыл бұрын
Can you try to make the 22b sounds closer to the real car? It sounds similar to other 90's STIs, and also try to match the sound with RPMs, which is about 8.000rpm For the rest of the cars, i think they're much better
@TheAdmiester Жыл бұрын
@@henrique6282 I don't really know of any more accurate source for the 22B than the one I used. For the GC-based models I used GT Sport's Impreza Ver.6 - I wanted to use the 22B sound for the 22B, but they sound more like air than actual exhaust sound, which works way worse in GT4 than it does Sport
@chrischarizard4067 Жыл бұрын
@@TheAdmiester Yo I just found the SLR sound you did on your channel. If that's what you put on the E55 it's perfect lol. Looking forward to your other works.
@Emmy_Redux Жыл бұрын
The improved sounds really make the game feel a lot more alive. Can't wait for this mod!
@dekoldrick Жыл бұрын
That CLK GTR sound was a massive improvement.
@Spectonimous Жыл бұрын
It sounds like a punch when he revs the engine. That car sound like a monster now
@mohnnadmercedes8246 Жыл бұрын
CLK LM in GTs is mix between le mans and FIA versions. The le mans sounds like sauber C9 the FIA sounds like muted ferrari V8
@jaglemans6778 Жыл бұрын
@@mohnnadmercedes8246 The '97 CLK-GTR is a V12 and sounds smooth like the original GT4 sound. The '98 CLK-LM is a V8 and has more of a rumble like the sound mod. Although not quite so pronounced.
@Barluke Жыл бұрын
Except that the CLK GTR had a V12 engine, the V8 was for the CLK LM
@babysaleem1 Жыл бұрын
All V8s just sound so much better in general
@sarminder4357 Жыл бұрын
Now this is the one thing that makes this game perfect. Most of the cars sounded like vacuum cleaners. This mod will make the long races even more enjoyable to listen to, especially that CLK GTR during a race at La Sarthe
@Steventhe2nd Жыл бұрын
Not vacuum cleaners, power drills for the most part
@masashiiino6914 Жыл бұрын
Not only that, some sound doesn't even match to their engine cylinder numbers
@szymon6207 Жыл бұрын
190 e from rtec sound. Could You Correct ?@@masashiiino6914
@MrDingle3605 ай бұрын
@@masashiiino6914 like how the audi tt sounded like a v8
@Doommarine23 Жыл бұрын
The Viper sounds amazing. This mod is going to be something special
@GTvsForza Жыл бұрын
The CLK-GTR literally threw me back! Was not expecting it to roar 😅
@idealy8456 Жыл бұрын
Vacuum Cleaner no more. These SFX are the work of art!
@kerwinpogi092 Жыл бұрын
This mod will forever change GT4. Love these new engine sounds.
@takashimatta Жыл бұрын
The civic ek9 lacks the vtec transition sound (idk if it’s called that way), but it is definitely a massive sound improvement! Can’t wait to try this out once it’s released! Edit: It's actually called VTEC Crossover, silly me
@alrecks619 Жыл бұрын
yeah, something like that. The more appropriate term would be "VTEC crossover"
@takashimatta Жыл бұрын
@@alrecks619 yeah, i've recently learned that after looking at lots of FD2 civic tuning videos lol
@TamiyaGuy123 Жыл бұрын
These are fantastic, I never would've thought that we'd reach this level of modding for a nearly 20-year-old PS2 game I really appreciate how the author hasn't gone overboard with the sounds either - they have the same slightly subdued feel as the original sounds, so remain in-keeping with GT's aesthetic. The Impreza now has that wonderful flat-4 burble, the 190E now sounds like an actual _car_ and not a kitchen blender... In fact, the only one I'm not sure on is the new sound for the Toyota GT-ONE - that particular bellow of the original has been a staple from GT2 to GT4, so to hear it changed feels strange, somehow!
@ChimaeraCarnage Жыл бұрын
God that 190E was a MASSIVE glow up.
@totallynotjohn8083 Жыл бұрын
Finally the cars dont sound like vacuums now they sound amazing now but I can't blame the original developers for having the cars sound like that since there's so many cars in the game having unique sounds for each them and making them good would be very time consuming.
@K31TH3R Жыл бұрын
I still have a Game Informer magazine in storage showcasing how Polyphony recorded the audio of the cars. There was a lot of effort and high end equipment capturing what I assume were excellent recordings, seemingly none of which made it into the actual game. I can only assume that a dog must've eaten all the tape that stored the audio recordings of the cars, and at the last minute before release, Polyphony told the audio guy "don't come out until you've replaced all the recordings" before they locked him in the office bathroom with a boom microphone and a Panasonic vacuum cleaner. This is the kind of audio the game should've shipped with. What a fantastic job, especially considering how small the file samples needed to be in order to work. The constraints are crazy.
@TheGhostlyCosmicTraveller Жыл бұрын
Hot take: after listening to this and the gt5/6 sound of the gt-one, it makes me appreciate the gt1-gt4 sound of the gt-one
@NexXxu Жыл бұрын
Yeah GT1-4 GT-ONE sound has your unique personality
@naufalluthfiansyah2064 Жыл бұрын
This game is a totally nostalgic,, and this mod's make it even better 🥲
@azi9_ity Жыл бұрын
Sounds make every game even better 👏😸
@flame_101 Жыл бұрын
@@azi9_ityTrue. Even the soundtrack can make it better
@henrique6282 Жыл бұрын
Most of the cars got a big sound upgrade, but cars like the 22B actually got way less similar to the real car, If you compare to Best Motoring recordings
@RowdyGT Жыл бұрын
All the Imprezas use the same sound currently, some are just placeholders. I’m not familiar with the 22b sound irl but I just chose that car out of the bundle to show
@Domi39 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a flat 4 to me.
@joshuasteele4576 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, agreed, it sounds like it has a massive exhaust out of the back. A bit too aggressive for stock
@oregonfelder14 ай бұрын
@@RowdyGTthe 22B was only a Japanese spec car…JDM Subarus had equal length exhaust manifold which meant less of a “lumpy boxer” sound. The “boxer” sound is sort of a USDM thing that has now been made popular in Japan.
@derosiflo6524 Жыл бұрын
original idle sound for the R89C is amazing already, ngl
@modest1237 ай бұрын
too bad as soon as you touch the throttle it goes from this aggressive purr into wheee wheee lol
@NS55gaming Жыл бұрын
Gotta love the new and improved engine sounds :)
@lonewolf-yu9ic Жыл бұрын
Cars went from average washer to musical machines really quick Great work cant wait 🙂
@uku000 Жыл бұрын
Woah that DB9 Spec lol mod sound is so beautiful!
@samuelsoto5855 Жыл бұрын
This mod is amazing in gt4 how cars engine sounds so much better than the original cars engine sounds.☺️
@swilleh_ Жыл бұрын
🤮 mod/vanilla real = better
@RowdyGT Жыл бұрын
@swilleh_ I call bait
@Ronnie_GT1000 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to try this mod out, things are REALLY looking good so far.
@christopherc7075 Жыл бұрын
Oh man that C2 Corvette sounds amazing, even when standing still 😊
@usagifb26det82 Жыл бұрын
19:24 bye to the characteristic engine sound of the "First Gran turismo" of PS1 imagine make a engine sound mod that put just this engine sound and variants for make a remaster of GT1 to 4 😆
@Evolution_BR811 Жыл бұрын
The sounds have improved a lot!
@m-seb Жыл бұрын
I have really high hopes for the Courage-Judd C60
@JaydanPuriel Жыл бұрын
hearing al these new sounds I'm very curious how the Ford GT LM Race Car II wil sound like
@Odin3v5 ай бұрын
Waiting for the Mustang, Lightning and Ford GT sounds.
@CristianSanchez-gz4gn Жыл бұрын
I love the mod community, just make this brilliant games feel more alive.
@ell_nafteroo Жыл бұрын
This would really make me enjoy every car in the game instead of keeping all the same cars on each run, have a question: This also would affect the sounds if the car is modified? That changed the sound a bit in the original game... But this man! Its like an ASMR for all GT4 lovers, keep the good work guys!
@RowdyGT Жыл бұрын
Modded exhausts will have the original sounds of the game. Changing those too would add way too much extra work
@rodolphofabian517 Жыл бұрын
Great work @TheAdmiester! Just a thought, why you guys don't volume up the turbo sound too, like GT2?
@d34thby1337 Жыл бұрын
The CLK GTR sounds awesome, but that's definitely a V8 sound for a car that had a V12
@TheAdmiester Жыл бұрын
CLK GTR was a V12, yes, but the one in the game is a CLK-LM. It was named CLK GTR in some builds, but the lower nose and the vents on the wheel arches give it away.
@d34thby1337 Жыл бұрын
Good to know! Awesome work on this mod, I'm super excited to play it when it's released.
@HenryOqtarve Жыл бұрын
I leave a impression about my favorite sounds. 350Z : Sounded like a Japanese sports car Cappuccino : From a sound that seems to be moving with a weak mainspring, it has become a sound that is small but has power. CLK GTR : The top in my personal favorite. I was surprised by the sound when I stepped on the accelerator for the first time. This will keep you from getting bored even in long races. GT one : Changed from the vacuum cleaner before, now you can feel the presence as a race car JGTC Supra : Frankly speaking, I like it more than the real thing EK9 : Not too light like an original sound, just the right sound Impreza : Bold, sophisticated sound 270R : To be honest, I prefer the sound of the original when the rev is turned off. It is highly evaluated that the running sound has become thicker than the original. C2 : I think it's the most realistic car out there. Camaro : I love the wild sound. very comfortable to listen to FD : It has improved significantly from a dull sound. Thank you @RowdyGT and @TheAdmister! I have never play GT4, but I feel the sounds in this game are cheep. When I play GT4, I will install this mods. Lastly, please excuse my comment is very long. (Leave a comment for this video is the first action to me. So, I used google translate for writing this comment. Perhaps, I may have wrote unnatural English text.)
@HenryOqtarve Жыл бұрын
@@o_pedro_oficial Thank you, I'll play it!
@ZangooseFanatic Жыл бұрын
There are no words to how heavenly the roar of the CLK LM and the GT-One (TS020) both sound in the mod. Cannot wait for it! Music to my ears ♥️
@shukterhousejive Жыл бұрын
Does the mod author do write-ups on their progress anywhere? I'd love to hear how GT4 mixes the engine noises and what they had to do to improve them
@v15ualk3ys Жыл бұрын
These are awesome! Major improvment for many of them; I will be looking forward to when this mod debuts. The only vehicles that seemed a little "meh" where the Audi S4 and the Impreza 22B. The sound is a little too throaty for these two imo, the sounds need a little more punch to cut through better. Otherwise these are great! Excited to see all the improvments :)
@Ben-Rogue Жыл бұрын
I'm curious to see how they did it. I always though GT4 had a mixing issue, as if you drive in different camera views, or look backwards, the car always sounded different. One good example is the Mazda 323f / Lantis. Driving in the bumper camera it sounds like the typical GT4 vaccume cleaner, but if you park it and turned the volume way up and listen to it idle from the chase camera, it sounded very similar, with a low burble of the V6 that. If you revved it very slightly you could also hear a lot more detail, but things just fall apart when you turn the volume back to a normal level and start to drive it
@TheAdmiester Жыл бұрын
That's down to each car having two recordings, one for engine and one for exhaust. Exhaust is what people typically associate with "a car sound" and the engine is the more ticky side with less bass. When you change to bumper or bonnet camera the game shifts the mix to prioritise the engine side, to fake a sort of 3D audio effect. When you stop the car and rev in GT4 it almost exclusively uses the exhaust audio, which is why you'll hear it faintly on bumper camera until you actually start to move away.
@Ramasus4416 Жыл бұрын
Very good job Rowdy 👍.
@lowercase. Жыл бұрын
i hope they change the straight cut gear whine too, never liked how it sounded in GT4
@TheAdmiester Жыл бұрын
It's possible but I'm still in two minds over it. Replacing it with something else is the most tricky option, and I've had lots of requests asking me to keep it as-is, and lots to remove it entirely. Not sure what I'll do yet but I'm aware of it.
@m-seb Жыл бұрын
@@TheAdmiester you could perhaps release the modded gear whine separately from the main mod as another delta patcher file
@TheAdmiester Жыл бұрын
@@m-seb Not ideal as it would mean making two versions of the ~300MB mod for one tiny change. I'd like to make it optional somehow but want to give the method more thought. EDIT: Unless you meant another tiny patch that would be installed on top of the patched mod, that could work but I think would confuse a lot of people
@TheNicoxoxD Жыл бұрын
@@TheAdmiester not really because if people want a different whine they will just install the patch, not really that hard to understand
@TheNicoxoxD Жыл бұрын
@@TheAdmiester i think it would be really nice if you change how the whine sounds, i like it but i just don't like how it sound on gran turismo 4
@MrRodrigues520 Жыл бұрын
amazing! thanks to everyone who worked on it
@mtagirihforce0096 ай бұрын
The audi s4 sounds are amazing,I would like to do this for gtPsp
@MadladDeluxe Жыл бұрын
I think the audio crackling is actually more so an issue with GT4 itself, because i hear the crackling even on original hardware.
@SMGM7S Жыл бұрын
This would have been the perfect opportunity to swap in the engine sound for the M3 GTR from Most Wanted into gran turismo ;) Also the Aston DB9 new sound is primal af 🔥😍
@elitef40 Жыл бұрын
No exaggeration, but this might just be one of the greatest mods I've ever seen
@SockyNoob Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for these sounds to make their way to GT6.
@jasonwhigham335 Жыл бұрын
Despite some cracking in the audio this is a MASSIVE improvement over the original
@SreehariB-db5ot Жыл бұрын
i knew the 190e and m3 csl sounded bad but holy shit
@HydrenXZ Жыл бұрын
Massive improvement for C5 Corvette and Camaro LM. They sounded like four-bangers.
@GhostRider-xt7vp Жыл бұрын
Epic! I love the new sound of that Mazda RX-7 LM Race Car because it sounds awesome, pretty intimidating, and it sorta sounds like its GT3 self too! Sweet! :) 👏👍 That's how the RX-7 LM Race Car should've sounded like in GT4 officially in my opinion.
@Deceptinerd19956 ай бұрын
The Viper GTS modded sound is MILES superior and a massive improvement, easily the best sounding car in the showcase
@LAJIRAFA66_ALT8 ай бұрын
would be cool if the creators of the spec II mod also updated the straight cut gear whine as well. You can hear on alot of the race cars featured how it sounds like a weird vacuum cleaner sound instead of a plane engine constantly winding up in pitch.
@raphaelrevolteado4689 Жыл бұрын
TheAdmeister thanks to him about new sounds from Gran Turismo 4 Spec II like New 1 Edition 2023.
@alrecks619 Жыл бұрын
the TS020 definitely sounds more like a flatplane V8 now.
@marianogomez1664 Жыл бұрын
The american V8's and Viper V10's ❤❤❤❤
@Ben-jz3mt Жыл бұрын
The pitch of some of the sounds are off a bit (the esprit for example sounds about 500-1000 rpm low), but the sounds themselves are excellent
@mohnnadmercedes8246 Жыл бұрын
Nissan Gr.C cars and R390 sounds are good but o prefer the original versions coz it’s nostalgic 😅 good work
@babaarcuszatir Жыл бұрын
The lacking bass and grunt is there now, awesome!
@emjej Жыл бұрын
damn, the sr20 🥶
@patrickbonfim38035 ай бұрын
I forgot the Corolla Rally Car, I loved the engine sound. I love this game and the automatic transmission from a bunch of cars.
@babysaleem1 Жыл бұрын
Every car needs to sound as punchy as that CLK-GTR, I'm just giving my personal opinion but a lot of these could sound just a little better even though they're all huge improvements
@Highrollinhunter Жыл бұрын
Every car in OG GT4 sounds like a vacuum cleaner mixed with a jet engine especially the cars with straight cut gears
@jirka43cznovak Жыл бұрын
That Honda Civic vtec sound😍❤️❤️❤️😎😎😎😎
@onceuponatimeonearth Жыл бұрын
just overnight my youtube feed is full of gran turismo mods. (and I welcome it)
@NekoPufferPPP Жыл бұрын
I don't think that's a better sound for the R89C...it doesn't sound like the grumbly V8 that car has. All the others though are much better.
@RowdyGT Жыл бұрын
There’s sound clips of the R90CK on KZbin that sound quite similar to the modded R89C here, but not 100%. Nissan Twin Turbo flat plane V8’s are unusual sounding
@NekoPufferPPP Жыл бұрын
@@RowdyGT ah, ok, i'll check them out, i just thought it'd have a similar kind of sound to the R92CP like in 7...idk if their engines are different
@kerzman4 ай бұрын
So much better! So, the original Ford GT40 and Pontiac Solstice originally sounded, actually, great. They did not sound like the other cars in the game. I wonder what they will sound like?
@ChapuleTaylor Жыл бұрын
dude, was wondering what other mods you got to make your game look like that. great video btw!
@Pwop_ Жыл бұрын
This mod is certain to be special
@kennyconnors9513 Жыл бұрын
All massive improvements. The v8s and v10s sound great
@TheNicoxoxD Жыл бұрын
I have a question about this mod, if you change the exhaust type it will sound different like the original game or it will sound the same like the mod with every exhaust?
@RowdyGT Жыл бұрын
Modified exhausts will have the original game sounds. If those were also to be changed that would exponentially increase the amount of work needed to be done
@TheNicoxoxD Жыл бұрын
@@RowdyGT about +700 cars on the game, thats lot of work!
@TheAdmiester Жыл бұрын
The modified ones won’t be the original game sounds, just a copy/paste of the stock new ones, except for a small handful where I find good sounds for upgraded ones
@TheNicoxoxD Жыл бұрын
@@TheAdmiester Im really glad to hear that and thank you for making my favorite game even better :)
@shadowbird42333 Жыл бұрын
It would be nice if they could work on the braking/wheelspin noise. It loops really quickly and is generally pretty annoying to hear because it's always the same one.
@SSDMusic692 Жыл бұрын
i like that you know what you are doing. the WOODONE supra has thte 4cyl sound just the original. though the rest sounds bonkers as well
@TheAdmiester Жыл бұрын
It's a flat plane V8, so kind of like a raspy/racey 4 cylinder sound
@ElShogoso Жыл бұрын
Major improvement. Not really realistic but can't expect that on the GT4 engine, but at least the cars have character now
@rafaelsevero5891 Жыл бұрын
perfect snores, and wonderful, not the original vacuum cleaner snores, congratulations on the development
@Redlineshadow29 Жыл бұрын
What about the Sauber C9??? Also, in the case of the TT. You could just put the same sound as the A3 3.2 Quattro (Stock), because both cars have the same engine
@RowdyGT Жыл бұрын
I’ll make another compilation showing more soon. Didn’t want this video to be an hour long lol
@TheGamingDefinition Жыл бұрын
Some of the cars sound pretty much the same, others are a massive improvement & completely unrecognisable!
@bingusthe3rd8 ай бұрын
Is it me or do i love both the sounds? Like, i love the vacuum cleaner sound
@Gojira_uz Жыл бұрын
The GTS Viper is amazing!
@WatcherKoops4677 Жыл бұрын
now these new sounds can keep up with next gen GT
@hendrihendri39394 ай бұрын
Still think that the CLK GTR should have two separate sounds done with a specific upgrade The OG sounds like the FIA-GT1 spec, since it got V12 running on it The Spec II mod gave it the CLK-LM flavor since it uses V8 instead So.. i say, why not both? 😊
@Hydruss443 Жыл бұрын
Always thought there was something seriously wrong with the convertible Alfa having an engine that’s clearly meant to sound like a V8 in game. Glad it’s been fixed & no longer has that sound. Same for the GT-One & Sauber C9 LMP using the stock V12 sound when both had biturbo V8s.
@TheAdmiester Жыл бұрын
There's a surprising number of cars that have the wrong engine setup entirely like that in the original game. Not having great sounds I can understand, but getting the engine entirely wrong is odd.
@Hydruss443 Жыл бұрын
@@TheAdmiesteryeah, absolutely. The TVRs like the 350 & Tuscan having V8 sounds instead of Inline 6 sounds & the Z06 having a V6 sound is another pretty egregious example. It’s good that the mod creator actually fixed it, because it always stuck out to me despite this being my favourite GT game.
@Hugo-iz9wb Жыл бұрын
The sound of the Camaro LM Edition was amazing, just like the Camaro.
@RogueBeatsARG Жыл бұрын
Cant wait for the mod to release!
@fossilfueled27 Жыл бұрын
Damn that CLK GTR... Can that sound be the race exhaust sound for all the V8 road cars in the game? :D
@Aether776 Жыл бұрын
I would give it a try but i'd rather wait for a full release (if that ever happens) updating a rom mod might be a pain in the ass
@stinkyroadhog13473 ай бұрын
Just to point out the CLM LM new sound, it revs much higher IRL than here
@km.45tactical91 Жыл бұрын
The new Viper GTS sounds more reallistic but the old sounds more cool
@nunyabidness-k2v3 ай бұрын
I love the new CLK LM sounds. It sounds so good that i had to check it against the real life videos, only to find that it had run with both a cross plane and a flat plane crank V8. The road car and the race car that ran at Goodwood sound like Ferrari's V8, but the some other onboards sound like the muscular v8 found here. Both sound good, how were you able to choose which one?
@xX_Gravity_Xx Жыл бұрын
The CLK GTR sounds like the CLK LM. The GTR had the V12 and the LM had the V8 I believe. Unless I have the backwards.
@flame_101 Жыл бұрын
You are correct. The GTR has the V12, while the LM has the V8
@TheAdmiester Жыл бұрын
You have it the right way around. The car in game is actually a CLK LM, signified by the vents on the wheel arches and the lower nose. It's labelled as a CLK GTR for some reason, but I decided to go by the actual physical appearance, so I gave it the LM's V8 sound.
@xX_Gravity_Xx Жыл бұрын
@@TheAdmiester Ah fair. Any way to change the displayed name?
@TheAdmiester Жыл бұрын
@@xX_Gravity_Xx Yup, quick fix, just haven't done it yet.
@PetsbudNasia Жыл бұрын
Oooh this is a great mod! I wonder if you could showcase the sounds from the replay angles so we can hear the flybys
@Super787B Жыл бұрын
I so can’t wait for this mod. Is there a patreon for this or anything?
@RowdyGT Жыл бұрын
No patreon, all volunteer work from several people
@Super787B Жыл бұрын
@@RowdyGT darn, I wanted to throw some money their way. Thanks for the info!
@TheAdmiester Жыл бұрын
@@Super787B None of what I do is possible without Nenkai's hard work, so if you really insist on sending someone money, see if he'll accept it.
@Super787B Жыл бұрын
@@TheAdmiester can do, mind sending a link?
@davidknowles2491 Жыл бұрын
My word - a Subaru that sounds like a Subaru! :O Also the Merc - Damn. :O
@floranhupscher272 Жыл бұрын
cant wait to replay gt4 with mods
@enjey2304 Жыл бұрын
R89C sounds weird to me for some reason
@RowdyGT Жыл бұрын
There’s sound clips of the R90CK on KZbin which is very similar to the other V8 Nissan Group C’s. Common characteristic of flat plane V8’s
@ultramagmonus Жыл бұрын
This is the mod I was waiting for
@filipostojic1239 Жыл бұрын
The Toyota Gt-One sounds a lot more like its twin-turbo counterpart
@BlueCJ Жыл бұрын
This is so good to see
@runig006 Жыл бұрын
My girl is now angry and asking question...like why i am watching this type of porn in public
@oswaldomorales8924 Жыл бұрын
idles in GT are alway epic
@ej22_gc86 Жыл бұрын
I really hope the Japanese original soundtracks will make it into the game along with thes
@mclarenf1gtr99 Жыл бұрын
Amazing work...but you forgot the best sound of them all 😏
@RowdyGT Жыл бұрын
I figured I’d show more of the sounds that haven’t been showcased on KZbin yet. Already did the F1 in my other video
@mclarenf1gtr99 Жыл бұрын
@@RowdyGT Makes sense. The mod turns this car from a boring hard to control machine to an exciting death trap. Also switching from PCSX 1.6 PAL version to 1.7 GT4 NTSC helps a bit, somehow physics seem better, and somehow runs better on my potato laptop.