Gran Turismo 5: CUT long London Circuit!?

[@pawlikos3654]

I wouldn't mind seeing a series about touring the actual streets of GT circuits that are based on real cities

[@MaykelFS23]

Cote D Azur...or should I say Montecarlo? 😂

[@Drexcyia]

i was sent to seattle multiple times for work, everytime id go, i would drive the irl streets of seattle circuit , even called my dad and went through it with him

[@MaykelFS23]

@@Drexcyia All city courses are based on real life street of those cities except the Special Stages ofc

[@Drexcyia]

@@MaykelFS23 absolutely! Tokyo R246 here i come!!

[@aenoofficial]

@@MaykelFS23 Is Costa di Amalfi fictional too?

[@ruzgarakgul2051]

HOLY SHIT MORE GT LORE JUST DROPPED

[@MattJ155]

Still lots more to come!

[@C.I...]

In the field of extremely niche graphical things in games, I must say that the "Sanyo" sign at this track has got to be the most realistic shiny sign in the history of racing games. Even though it's just an advertising sign in a game, it wows me to this day. Much better than those ugly screens they have there in real life now, at any rate.

[@frylucas]

It's fun to consider that Enthusia also had a track in London, or should I say, "Not London™" a few years before GT, in two layouts, but the Enthusia staff had a vastly different vision for their version of the track, and yet in that track you still go through Regent Street in both layouts, and the shorter layout actually passes through Admiralty Arch which is kind of funny considering your remarks hahaha. As for why it was cut,I believe they probably felt like it wasn't necessary since it didn't extended the track enough in an interesting manner, and since they made the "short track" first, that was what they kept instead.

[@Antegggggggggg]

iirc theres a london course in race driver grid too

[@MwahahaFilms]

​@@Anteggggggggggit would be cool to see a video comparing London city courses from various racing games. I had London Racer 2 as a kid and remember having to thread the needle through those arches

[@heimanlee5955]

I have been wondering how Enthusia got a London course that resembles Tokyo R246 so much, and wondering how come there are no map to resemble such layout.

[@MattJ155]

Wow, I'll have to check that out. I've never played Enthusia. From memory, there was a London track in Supercar Street Challenge too.

[@frylucas]

@@MattJ155 It's a wonderful game, it's really depressing Konami abandoned it as quickly as they did, but releasing it at around the same time GT4 did was a very, very bad idea... >w>' There's also a track set in Paris and even one in San Francisco, plus a bunch of other wonderful fictional tracks. Tsukuba and Nurburgring appear to fill the role of the real tracks.

[@BertoBoi]

There's quite a lot of interesting cut tracks from GT5, from the full London course to SSRX's infield layout, but I think the one that intrigues me the most has to be the Matterhorn rally course. Only the course's UI map and thumbnail photos exist, as well as a very incomplete version of the driveable course in one of GT5's prototypes with barely any detail. It was going to be a brand new circuit, but unlike Piazza Del Campo it wasn't advertised and didn't have any known reasons as to why it was cut. Matterhorn would later be used for GT6, but we instead got four road course tracks. I've always wondered why we never got the rally course in GT5 or 6, was it perhaps because we already had an array of Swiss rally courses with Eiger? Who knows...

[@MattJ155]

@@BertoBoi The Matterhorn would definitely make for an interesting topic for another video!

[@JOHANNESwhoelse]

I remember that when I went to London for my class trip, one day I spent quite some time around the short London Circuit. I had lunch at a Burger King situated at the main straight and I had dinner with the whole class later that same day in a restaurant overlooking turn 1. Overall it was a fun trip, however I remember that one day I spent close to the Gran Turismo track best for some reason.

[@nebuc72]

Thanks for the credit Matt - though I have to forward it on to ddm from the GT Modding Community (& host of GTInfo) for the original information, I only gathered it from them and posted it on GTP!

[@MattJ155]

Thanks! I'll update the video description. 👍

[@soremuss]

I find it fascinating that in a Sony game, made for a Sony console, there is a giant Sanyo logo that they probably had to pay a license to add.

[@siltstridersftw]

Love the little old Top Gear outro, and on that bombshell, it's time to end

[@MattJ155]

😉

[@Larry]

It just occurred to me, you could retrace this course using The Getaway on PS2 😅

[@LMPDragon]

More popcorn acquired!

[@Sapizanza]

I got some leftover in a pan. Feel free to take

[@BarbecuedPossum]

Small world

[@heimanlee5955]

Now I have more spots to visits when it's my turn to visit London. Yet it's just a pity Gran Turismo have very few high speed focused city circuits before Tokyo Expressway become our placeholder for the loss of Tokyo Xtreme Racer-Seoul is quite short to newer cars.

[@mayh3xx]

What a lovely blend of Gran Turismo and London history. Its such a shame we didn't get the full version of the track, if it really went across the Motorway that would have been a really popular drag racing spot online I'm sure!

[@KemonoGamer75]

Hi

[@mayh3xx]

@KemonoGamer75 hello!

[@MattJ155]

@@mayh3xx Thank you!

[@puckzvmjhlavacekj]

Can’t believe they cut this track-it would’ve been epic to race on that circuit!

[@socksonfeet8125]

very nice, I'm reworking Surfers Paradise for GTR2 but when I finish I might make this circuit, I love original circuits in games, especially GT's original circuits because unlike most games they build their tracks based on reality. I have traced most of their tracks on google maps as well, its pretty awesome that they packed in that much detail into the older games.

[@s0lsticefr4]

Nice to see this video dropping just after I've 100%'d GT5 lol

[@joshuahernandez5911]

When the rain comes. Excellent choice.

[@MattJ155]

@@joshuahernandez5911Thanks! I love the song, but I also picked it because of the UK weather. :)

[@IndianSuperman-gy4ps]

If they ever bring back London in GT7 they should definitely include the longer course

[@amuro2001]

Metropolis Street Racer on the Dreamcast (and, by extension, Project Gotham Racing on the Xbox) goes through some of these same streets in their London layouts!

[@MillywiggZ]

Can’t do it now, not with ULEZ and the 20mph speed limit. Oh yeah, the protest too.

[@MattJ155]

@@MillywiggZ Yep. And at the time of writing this, it's also Remembrance Sunday tomorrow!

[@fernfernacelli]

Ahhh… new MattJ155 GT content… …all is right with the world. 🎉😊🎉

[@MattJ155]

@@fernfernacelli I appreciate you!

[@fahrenmintah7905]

lol I used to drive the number 19 bus. This area is my jam. Fair play to gt. I’d say it’s pretty spot on 😊

[@LeafFerret]

The London layout looks like it's set in 2005 if the Some Girls and David Schwimmer signage suggest something.

[@LeafFerret]

Also the video looks like it also set in 2005 because of the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang signage on the bus.

[@DiegoRamos-rz1ks]

It would of been nice to have a full version of London. I wouldn’t of been surprised to see the OG Top Gear trio would of been promoting it with the test track, Silverstone, and Brands Hatch.

[@Redmanb11]

PGR 4 had a pretty decent London course

[@minmogrovingstrongandhealthy]

Now its time to someone port that track and extend it for Assetto Corsa or something ... And yeah those mid paths need to be removed, the road is super crammed I just dont see this place being a race track like that. Also I dont know how would all those businesses feel by not working for few days or residents not be able to move in and out because everything is blocked off for a race event. "its just a game, chill" yeah but still I cant help and think of these things, considering it's rather a simulation game then just a arcade racer.

[@3masouri]

Wow the nostalgia

[@_Elixir]

We need more tracks like this none in GT7, real cities.

[@rogehmarbi]

I wonder if the reason why it was cut is because it's too narrow, in addition to it being boring? Yes, I know we have Citta di Aria (probably spelled it wrong) that's even narrower, but that course has interesting bends and whatnot, a very challenging track. As much as I'd love to drive on the long course, at the end of the day, it's mostly just... straight lines. And if I wanted to drive fast in a city course, we have Tokyo R246. Or I don't know, maybe licensing reasons perhaps?

[@TallTapper]

thank you matt... ur so cool

[@elrinconcuriosodesally3528]

Tbh the pit road should've be kept, I mean keep in mind is too narrow and short for the X1 and the LMP1 cars for the game, but for normal, tuned and rally cars that look fitted like glove

[@Dany126PL]

Didn't Roflwaffle mentioned something about longer version of London in one of his video?

[@Cortexpcs123]

He did, but said only very little about it.

[@Dany126PL]

@Cortexpcs123 I think he said that he couldn't find any info about it if I remember correct.

[@ruzgarakgul2051]

I didn’t know he did other videos apart from how gt7 is the worst videogame ever conceived in history

[@Cortexpcs123]

@@Dany126PLhe said that he once saw screenshot of citroen concept on london, but not on that main layout and couldn't find it.

[@rogehmarbi]

@@ruzgarakgul2051 he does now, other than GT stuff (that are reasonably more positive these days, especially when it comes to older GTs) he's been making deep dive videos about JGTC / Super GT racing, which I think is a unique niche that barely anyone, if any, on the platform create videos about. His video quality is way better now, and he did mention Matt a couple of times in past videos so I guess there's probably a handful of people who discovered this channel that way. His long form GT uploads takes me back to like over a decade ago when I first discovered this channel, it's good to have more creators making GT videos.

[@oli_gordon]

Couldn't you drive it on the getaway or black Monday

[@Redmanb11]

Technically you could

[@WatcherKoops4677]

Yaaaay another gt5 video ❤️

[@Datomika]

I know this is unrelated to the video and it's kinda late, but do you have any of the beta discs (Midnight Club: Street Racing, Smuggler's Run) that you showed in a video 7 years ago by any chance?

[@MattJ155]

@@Datomika No worries! Yes, I still have the discs I showed in that video all those years ago.

[@Datomika]

@MattJ155 Was just checking up on the status of these discs.

[@RickettsJr]

Is the collision data activated in-game? Can you drive on it if you go out of bounds? Btw, great video as always Matt! 👍

[@MillywiggZ]

It’s a good thing they kept it short, you hang around for too long and you increase your risk of getting stabbed.

[@Bambusbjoern2912]

Even worse when you have to ask for directions while driving the circuit..

[@BmxGuyFromNZ]

I wonder if you can do this lap on either of the getaway games.

[@Lewis_Treff97]

I mean they technically used the unused route in Gran Turismo 7. Except its on scapes mode

[@Dynamitechips6942]

damn reminds me of shift 2

[@TSG_Ballverlust]

Had to watch in 1.25 faster jokes asides luv your vids mate

[@MattJ155]

@@TSG_Ballverlust 😂 Watch it however you like!

[@3masouri]

Was this gameplay recorded off the PS3 version of the game or an emulator it looks even better than what I remember

[@Zephyr53]

NFS Shift 2 Unleashed had a better London track, IMO.

[@FunmiJain]

The London track in Gran Turismo 5 and Gran Turismo 6 is not a long, complex racetrack. Instead, it is a short track, with tight corners and tight straights, creating a challenge for players to control the car through the turns.

[@comradewyvern1150]

Great video! God bless, Jesus loves you!

[@crazyride1757]

Yo matt whats up bro

[@nathan4419]

It's not short, it's average

[@JOHANNESwhoelse]

Compared to Beginner Course, yes

[@rafaelvasik]

Maybe someone can recreate that vision london in Assetto Corsa.

[@KemonoGamer75]

Hello 👋