Granblue Is FINALLY Balanced | Patch 1.50 GBVSR Tier List

[@Mr.Faust3]

Nier players gotta buy the game now

[@mrharvy100]

Gran players now don’t have to lol

[@thefgcsensei4482]

Based Delita pfp

[@Mr.Faust3]

@thefgcsensei4482 thanks bro still waiting on the FFT remaster

[@pepsy3085]

Ferry players will just kill themselves probably idk

[@grph1t3z]

No we don’t😂

[@tobsias7263]

anre is like shrödingers cat int he box, Until we metaphorically open the box that is anre we will never know what his placement truly is.

[@tobsias7263]

W tier list btw kat suprised me since she doesnt feel like an S+ to me but i guess i havent played enough

[@matmil5]

He just won arcrevo Japan-

[@tobsias7263]

@@matmil5 nevermind.

[@decksteroussnail]

"Hey kids, do you hate zoning characters??!?!"

[@Abedeuss]

"Because if you do like them, you kinda have to buy the new DLC character. The old ones suck.."

[@FaeAvalon]

Lmao 😭

[@DarkKojiro]

@@Abedeuss Vane: HI

[@LegendIam1465]

Personally, I think Eustace is really strong, he does take a lot of effort, and I feel like he's the only character in the game that needs to take advantage of their entire kit to win consistently, and having so many tools that Eustace does makes him pretty hard, and daunting. I do think he's one of the coolest characters in the game though.

[@Jay-mx5ky]

Take a shot every time Diaphone says, "I don't know the combo"

[@Pine2142]

For Yuel you forgot to mention that not only did she lose the neutral stance parry but EVEN if you time her "new" parry it can no longer beat multi hits like DPs and supers, so you will be punished for hitting the parry and reading your opponent, not only losing your turn but then getting exploded off of a counter hit. So not only is her parry needing very precise timing but you will also be punished for trying to parry things you could parry previously with the auto neutral stance parry before.

[@nelomalkevain4129]

This, this right here is the real problem. The overhead is at least somewat excusable as a change, at least it's unreactable even if the reward is far smaller than the risk you take for thorwing it out, but the parry change is absolutley stupid. This counter was SPECIFICALLY made to counter dps (since you could combo off it) and now you are telling me now I get PUNISHED FOR IT ?! Now dps beat Yuel's stance PERIOD (you can't spot dodge them and the only hope you have is to deactivate the stance and pray the lord you block in time), its like if Vaseraga lost his U follow-up from walk. It almost feels like who made this change was abolutley demolished by a random Yuel online because they kept hitting her with mids. I am absolutley speechless.

[@blitzball9915]

Yuel was weak before but now she is easily the worst character. The devs that made those stance changes are absolutely clueless. I hope they will revert the parry changes.

[@Pine2142]

@@blitzball9915 I replied to another guy in this comment section saying I'll take bottom tier Yuel if they just revert her stance changes. Character is so frustrating and the most fun to use parts of her kit (IMO) are gone or completely flaccid.

[@murky8268]

i've found the people most positive about current yuel is yuel players. she has a really strong vortex now, especially with 236l oki, and what people never mention in these patch notes reads but yools always praise is stanceless 22u and guren, our conversion game is so much better now. it sucks that CH state got essentially removed from stance, and now she can only counter iirc 4 dps, and only about half of the cast's supers, and there arent any stance conversions, but we can still just block. like, worst comes to worst, we block and do a c.h or 66h punish. even the loss of throw~u (whiff)td.5m td.2m isnt that bad when throw~u td.44 td.66 td.2m~u does the same job. yeah her gimmick doesnt beat everything but, worst comes to worst we just do what everyone else does, and what we often were supposed to do before, just with a little less damage, requiring just a little more thought.

[@magicalgirl1296]

It's so cool to hear that Nier no longer exists in her own tier above the rest of the cast. First impressions anyway.

[@TheCoolguymanly]

I think they very cleverly nerfed her, but also changed how she worked so that she can still be a character in the game, without completely destroying her like what happened to Zato in Strive. But yes boy is it gonna be good to not see mindless Nier mirrors in Grand Finals anymore, you gotta actually know what you're doing with her now to get results.

[@rb.phonics]

Eustace honestly will always be one of the most underrated characters imo, he feels strong this patch

[@TheCoolguymanly]

Keep the dream alive man!

[@JulesTheChaos]

I am thinking about picking him up. I was a Ferry main before but I just can't do it anymore man. Eustace seems to be a lot better and looks like a character I would enjoy.

[@Chadaragi-san]

It's more so cuz us eustace players are pretty cracked 😏

[@forseti7249]

Anila's bad winrate is because multiple of the people boosting to master against alt accounts were coomers that used her as the punching bag

[@vstalbain]

I don't play GBVSR, but a lot of my friends play it and are good at it (i.e they go to majors and always make it out of pools, and some of them consistently get to Top 24/Top16). I keep telling them, "If you want to get over the hump and make Top 8, prepare a legit pocket Anre." Fulfill my prophecy, Diaphone!

[@matmil5]

It literally just happened on ArcRevo, Japan! Stream should be on officia arcsys channel

[@xan_69420]

28:09 you have quick cooldowns on, this buff is actually not real

[@Projekt_XIII]

Seeing Yuel down so low does my heart rough man. I wouldn't even mind if she was low tier due to everyone else being strong, but the lack of reward on the stance overhead outside of counter feels pretty bad. They cooked a little with her being able to stance out of ultimate, though. There's some interesting new corner combo's involving her stance 2H in the corner now, but it just feels like a bad trade. Before, people had to make a commitment to pressing a low button against her to beat corner stance pressure which worked beautifully with her 2M prior.

[@Pine2142]

@@Projekt_XIII I hate to say it but the Yuel changes took a lot of the fun out this character that I've played since she was dlc in base Versus. I'd take a revert even if she was made to be like bottom of bottom tier because her kit was just a lot more fun and satisfying to use.

[@cheongzewei1402]

236u 2h 22h 2h stance5h 5m LDP is the route you want to take.

[@matmil5]

​@@Pine2142Good. I HOPE THEY NERF HER MORE

[@Time2GoHam1995]

Small correction on lucilius: the only buff that lets him get level 5 faster is that his 214M is n gives 1 level now instead of half a level. All the other blade level values for moves are the same. The character still seems mad strong though.

[@Diaphone]

Ty! He got additional buffs previous patch before this iirc to blade meter iirc, I kinda just lumped them together ig lol

[@DiabloTraeluz]

@@Diaphone the only change lucilius ever got before 1.5 was throw invincibility on his backdash and a bug fix when 2B came out.

[@Diaphone]

@@DiabloTraeluz oh interesting, thanks! I guess the 214m change bigger than I thought lol

[@Chun-believable]

Belial’s buff was his costume.

[@MenaceLendil]

If Abel players ever learn the restraint to not kill themselves of everyhit for no reason he's gotta jump at least a tier.

[@coolfish420]

Anre nation....stay strong

[@SlaytonSlaytonSlayton]

Dunno if there's enough of them for a nation. Maybe like... Anre shanty town.

[@NaoyaYami]

@@SlaytonSlaytonSlayton Isn't it just a campfire though?

[@theProClaimer]

Who?

[@elijahoneill5228]

Never a better time to do a Road to Master with Vaseraga

[@jscriber100]

Zooey and Zeta is always be top tier in my heart of hearts!!

[@rayo192]

Lancelot’s jab nerf lowered his pressure and damage pretty noticeably in this patch. The confirm from 2a 2a is also pretty inconsistent since it needs momentum and for some characters they need to be crouching for that to work. The system changes also affected him enough to drop from S to A imo. Still a strong character but his MUs are harder and he overall is weaker than he was.

[@omniboo1762]

he cant safe jab too which is MASSIVE

[@davidemuzio8464]

My boy Lancey has never been top tier even before, he rarely wins and he's rarely used.

[@rayo192]

​@davidemuzio8464 ok let's not go overboard 😅

[@viridianknight]

wait, percy's alive? they brought my boy back? IM GOING BACK TO GRANBLUE SO LONG TEKKEN

[@theProClaimer]

Based

[@Jay-mx5ky]

Percy has been back lol. He was strong last patch too.

[@IagoGaraitz]

They massacred my poor girl Ferry.

[@forgiven3519]

I don't usually do this, but thank you Diaphone. . . There are so many downplayers of Eustace and Anre. As a master Eustace player, I always thought he was good (even pre-patch). I really respect that you acknowledged that the peak of the character was unknown, because my heart would have been crushed if you put them in B tier for some BS reason. just to generally give the run down of Eustace for you. . .He can zone officially instead of the fake stuff (all his projectiles used to be minus and little pay off). . . He can do DP loops easier and off raging strike. . .and His U grenade became one of the best corner trap tools in the game (it doesn't disappear on block now). again thank you, and keep up the content.

[@Noobinati]

That heavy sigh on the Zooey part 😭I feel the same brother.

[@whosthatfighter]

Hi, Lowain main here, his double bro summon buff doesn’t actually work as intended. It looks good if you have fast cooldown on, but in reality, you can only summon the other bro as the first one is leaving. It’s pretty minimal

[@Xseleon]

Ladiva H command grab into U air command grab does like 6-7k. That is definitely strike combo comparable damage.

[@h2_]

Patiently awaiting the Ladiva nerfs

[@effoheefohee7936]

@5:12 Belial is not the only character, both Gran and (one of) Narmaya's 2M are also +1 on block

[@Funsopolis]

Belial's 2M is a low. Gran and Narmaya's both hit mid.

[@afroraykun]

Need to the game with this patch and loving it! Vira is so much fun to play.

[@wink3dv2]

I'll take it, Vane feels considerably more fun this patch! Here's hoping he gets more love in future patches (especially to his U).

[@JudgeAngelz]

Ferry got that MK Mileena ahh combo.

[@Younghoon15]

I stand by that Vira isn't that great. She can be really well negated by meterless dp, since all her stuff are frame traps. Her being able to combo the 5U from 22U is a good change, but fundamentally her biggest issue is that her U skills are not rewarding on hit outside of grand 236U. I was hoping they'd make it so you can cancel run into block. Safe jabs imo are kind of a dumb mechanic to have unless safe jabs maintained a bit of forward momentum.

[@user-et3xn2jm1u]

Ferry in B Tier, diaphone is up-playing the character hard

[@mrharvy100]

2B definitely not even top 10 anymore. I’m convinced next patch they will make 2B pay SKL just for dashing/running lol.

[@NaoyaYami]

Her having to use bar to perform mechanics not fit for this game (slowfall, double jump) is fair, especially since the bar once again goes up a bit faster than after the nerf. Also her j.H (or is it j.U? - that crazy jump-in where she swings her sword almost full circle) is still broken (I think I'd be okay if it had about the same startup as Kat's j.U pre-buff). 2B always will be annoying to fight if only because she plays by completely different rules.

[@Vsolid]

One can hope

[@ShadowCero]

I think Nier is much more mid tier thanks to the nerfs. She straight can't play the game anymore without Death which the most damaging nerf imo being that you can't use RS without Death both being alive and unsummoned. Regular combos aren't too bad with the reload routes but spending stocks on pressure is rough and the opponent can force you into recovery time just by teching your grab or BCing you. And without the raging strikes stuff like her anti air is so much more inconsistent so without her having death all she can get on you 90% of the time is far L and you can jump at her like a Kangaroo during her recovery since she literally can't get anything even if she gets the counter 2h. I think she'd be low high if they didn't nerf her raging strikes but without that her states are so polarizing and certains MUs shit on her really badly now.

[@arcaster9444]

Seeing Lancelot at S is the clearest giveaway that Diaphone does not touch Lancelot at all. As a Lancelot master, he is hot garbage this patch. One thing he failed to mention was that he lost his B&B corner combo, so now he has low health, least damage outside of a corner, and now bottom 5 lowest corner combo damage. He needs twice as many touches to win as other characters. Then all the other nerfs making him far easier to punish. Lancelot is B tier at best and C at worst.

[@hitler69]

Lost BnB corner combo? Which one, the only thing you need to change is the close heavy

[@jacobmendoza4753]

I do agree that it feels like Diaphone doesn't understand how much has changed for Lancelot's combo game. His b&b is shorter and uses more resources for proper okizeme, his wallcling to 5m can no longer combo which misses out on what used to be his strongest combo of 623U> wallcling 5m> 5HHH> 623H> CH> Raging Strike> CH> 214MM> CH> 214HHHH> CM> 236236U. I think it dealt 9650. Overall, Lancelot does feel like he took a major hit to what feels like more than half of his combo routes, but I would still put him around low A to high B tier imo.

[@davidemuzio8464]

It is just sooo frustrating for us Lancelot mains to see him always placed top tier, then u watch competitions and he constantly loses. I had the same with my zeku in sf5.lancey is nerfed to death now.

[@sladevalen2120]

He never needed high damage because he is one of the most consistent characters at getting the hits needed to win anyway. His pressure and mix are still insane, and a good number of the cast have zero options to fight back, so his matchup spread is going to still be really good.

[@scoutboy25]

As a lucilius player since last patch, (level 509 now) I won.

[@Sakaki98]

It must be stated that Djeeta’s anti air game is more consistently rewarding now that she doesn’t need levels or CH for 5U to give her a juggle combo. At around round start distance she can take you close enough to the corner with 214H(x2) that the enemy will reach the wall and stay in range for f.M 236H to connect. Having that kind of consistent anti air dominance makes for a Katalina-tier glow up to neutral, since the greater incentive to present only grounded options lowers mental stack and winds up granting the Djeeta/Kat more opportunities to jump in response. Definitely a huge buff to neutral game…which I suppose is why I’m seeing more Katalina than Djeeta online now. I assume most players picked the former because they WANT Street fighter neutral and only every picked Djeeta to skip to the fun corner dice rolls as quickly as possible with 214H, and when they realized they can’t do that….

[@Jay-mx5ky]

Ladiva can do ssba level damage off a command grab and 50 meter.

[@deadz3n830]

They called me "carried" when I played Beatrix...I switched back to Katalina and they still call me "carried". Just leave me be!!

[@eebbaa5560]

no timestamp for siegfried but he's in the katalina section

[@IchiExorz]

I wish Vane's 5U got the treatment Katalina's did... I can't believe they buffed Vane in multiple ways but didn't think to touch the worst move in the entire game.

[@DatNikku]

Props to you using the best Ladiva color

[@GranblueEnjoyer]

Feel like Lancelot moved down a tier, can feel the nerfs

[@abrittishpanfish6269]

for the next tier list the thumbnail needs nier looking downwards to complete the arc

[@Eury-y]

That lowain buff ain't even real, you can only summon them that fast on training mode with fast cooldowns, on an actual match that "buff" is either bugged or irrelevant.

[@Diaphone]

O rip loool😊

[@maidenlessbhvr]

"Narmaya is a character that is characterized by her stance" Uh huh, sure. It's the stance

[@wallofsoundandmusic345]

Why did they do what they did to Yuel?

[@zeronebula08]

33:48 bet, I'll hop back on for my boy Eustace, need to show my boy some love and get him to higher placements (in a millenia [even though no one knows me], but one day I'll be back)

[@bainbonic]

Sadly this patch made me fall off of my girl Zeta quite badly with the ultimate skill nerfs because I played her largely for them. I love how flashy it is chaining them all together and stylish combos are a big part of why I play fighting games. Even if she's lower on the tier list, I've largely moved to Versusia to get my flashiness fix.

[@bumibomber]

Zeta still has very flashy combos, especially out of counter, they just take actual execution now 😅

[@raionbomber75]

I got hit with Zeta doing 214U into j.U into 22H and I was like THATS SICK! Her new routes and her new fuzzy guard breaks is insane, just hard to do.

[@TheCoolguymanly]

Yeeeah I feel that, I'm sure Zeta is still super juice don't get me wrong, but being to do ridiculous Lance Beam into Lance beam combos with her Ultimate skills was so fun. Still I hope the actual Zeta mains start really digging into the other options of her kit now and doing even cooler stuff.

[@IOSARBX]

Diaphone, You're amazing! I hit the like button as soon as I saw it!

[@Onyx707]

Who are the most played characters right now? Haven’t played online yet, just curious tho

[@KabutoGatack009]

Djeeta still good Thats good Also her ulti rekka doesnt have pushback near the or at the corner on block anymore so if they block it u expect to be punished. Midscreen should be fine though. Never checked it out.

[@DebonairDandy]

PAPA PRINGLES TOP OF A TIER AT LAST

[@markalexander6036]

Ferry was perfectly fine the way she was upon initial release. She was a skeleton of the character she used to be, but she still managed to be pretty decent overall. They broke my poor girl's spine with this one. Allegedly, it was because bad players didn't know how to deal with her. But this change is only makes her worse in any match-up regardless of skill gaps.

[@NaoyaYami]

I had no idea how to deal with good Metera zoning (I mained Yuel pre-patch) and she got buffed... Ferry was fine, skill gaps will always exist and IMO Dhalsim-type zoners (so Ferry, Axl, etc.) are easier to deal with usually than projectile spammers.

[@casbalt7763]

13:24 i noticed the U was working better but didnt read the patch notes.

[@fogheta]

Love the excuse for gutting Ferry was 'High skill players was able to see more success than low skill players' like a high skill ceiling is a bad thing .... these devs man, smh

[@undertalebob3207]

Why is Gran so low. He has great spacing pressure with = frames and can do 60-80% of a health bar off of a lot of starters. I play vs the one you fought at the end of your new character run last video and she ALWAYS does it non-stop in tournys

[@SH1NK1R01]

One thing that is slept on with Vira was the changes to the flip move in install and its ability to combo in to fireball. She now has the ability to end a combo with fireball and force you to wake up in to a 50/50. And they added invuln to the back dash from the flip so you can’t even dp the setup with everyone. They sauced up the install and then made it easier to get in to.

[@DonteWilsonChrisDorner]

I just want fighting game dev teams to stop catering to casuls by making zoners inherently bottom tier.

[@bigzonks4393]

It’s so silly the way people say Belial won EVO like it should be obvious that the character who won EVO is broken.

[@KiskeFriedChicken]

I hate when they over buff a character I like, because that just means they'll prolly get ober nerfed later... for now tho those blade lvl 5 changes are great!

[@hyper_pyro]

Katalina my Beloved

[@TGHoly]

I would rather trade all Yuel buff just to get her auto parry back now she is just unplayable. :(

[@AngelGel01]

Please update the 2B guide please!!!!🙏

[@soulvagabond9655]

Damn I guess I'm just trash at the game, because I still struggle to get wins with Percy, even tho he's now the highest tier of the characters I play.

[@NaoyaYami]

Well, from my own experience, most tier-lists are irrelevant to non-high level players (I reached S-rank on multiple characters but that's my wall for now). There was a dude on reddit that worked as a teacher and got his class to play guilty gear (+R IIRC). It's interesting to see how different characters are ranked depending on the level of play compared to what most tier lists (made by high-level players) are/

[@princecliveXVI]

some at 33;43 timestamps said anres main will not be silenced

[@magicalgirl1296]

Don't mind me, just looking to see where my sheep lady is at About what I expected honestly

[@user6171]

They massacred my favorite character (Yuel).

[@yoyoguy1st]

She does feel terrible now

[@RodneyMeyer-y7t]

Goldner Branch

[@garethcf1016]

I mean, the most consitently "best chara" in gbvs wasnt ferry imo, it was belial. Literally top 3 for the entire life of the game since he existed. Even got nerfed from top 1 to top 1 But i guess the entirety of cygames will just collapse and die if he pays for literally anything so ferry gets most of the flak cos she was good (even if she wasnt as good after the constant nerfs), but was really gimmicky

[@jeanriviere2599]

The H rekka nerf for Djeeta made me drop her. The thing is, without that wallbounce, you pretty much HAVE to first push to corner then charge 5U or charge fireball to do anything relevant; in a game where charged characters don't have to charge their specials. When you want to play her normally as a 5 star ease of use char, basic ass combos just does less damage. In order to do any significant damage, you have to plan out some specifics starters, and fundamentals will just be ineffective with her. I'm not saying she's bad, she IS strong, but she feels unconforable to play and the 5 stars are a big fat LIE. Yes, all of that because of H rekka no longer wallbouncing. Meh, I'll just play Gran. (Speaking of Gran, 4 years, it took 4 years to finally fix properly M boot. At first too powerful, then for 6 months so shit you could heavy punish the move ON HIT, then just useless until now) Thank you for reading.

[@HermanTeddy-m5m]

Stan View

[@HughSaxon-r5d]

Jamison Corner

[@VeronaAmore-q8w]

Jorge Street

[@Doople]

Wonder what they can do to buff some of these zoners. Really surprised there isnt one that does well in tournaments

[@user-et3xn2jm1u]

They could give them an anti-air move, like the rest of the cast has. A move where if someone jumps at you, you can use it and they will get hit.

[@captainmega6310]

​@@user-et3xn2jm1u Which what ferry lost

[@firework0097]

As a Vane player Trust Yall are sleepin on him

[@TheRealCaptainLavender]

poor ferry😞

[@majesticmunch3356]

Is it weird that I want to play Nier now 🙂

[@captainmega6310]

Not at all. A lot of people probably didn't pick her up before because she was broken or boring or out of fear. This new Nier seems a lot healthier and more interesting

[@mcbill7352]

diaphone try to talk about zeta for more than 5 seconds challenge (impossible)

[@alexey635able]

How avatar belial manages to string so long of a combo? Where is combo limit have gone?

[@corystrickland5220]

His character is designed for long combos and he has a lot of multihitting abilities

[@TiltEV]

ICYMI Combo limit starts when the opponent is airborne, I didn't knew until 40+ hours in lol.

[@Babykata4478]

HOW TF WAS THIS 57 MINUTES AGO

[@SlaytonSlaytonSlayton]

Kat is deffffff S tier this patch.

[@I3raveryy]

Curious what the best way to get into Granblue is. I recently got it i love fighters but super rusty. Any tips guys lmk pls

[@spookiefr]

Just hop on and play really. There are a bunch of Discord servers to help you find resources or matches with other beginners. This game really isn't that hard to get into compared to other FGs imo.

[@lagspike7763]

Why did nobody tell me Zooey just had Sol j.D😂

[@NaoyaYami]

Zooey dust loops have been a thing for a while now... if not from day 1

[@catspaw]

Dia I love you buddy, but you and I both know that "winning Evo" is not a good metric to base balance decisions off of. There hadn't even been a Belial in the Grand Finals of a AWT event prior to Evo, and only 6 finishes in Top 8 overall (compared to 26 for Nier, 17 for Siegfried, and so on).

[@mrharvy100]

lol what? Bel was a top tier character since he launched in vanilla and had multiple top 8 appearances even by Rising era. He is a shoto with skewed reward vs risk in his favor. He got buffed overall in this patch where the few characters better than him got worse. Him winning at Evo is just the latest of many examples that the character was easily always a tourney winning tier character at high skill level Meanwhile I don’t see the #1 Ferry player in the world winning a tournament anytime soon.

[@mrharvy100]

And it’s ironic you think how well a character is balanced should 100% correlate to tourney appearances. The biggest flaw to your logic is ask yourself: “How many top 8 appearances was Launch Beatrix”. She had nowhere near the amount of Nier and Sieg either, but it doesn’t take a top player to realize she was an unbalanced mess.

[@catspaw]

@@mrharvy100 I'm not disputing that Belial is a top tier character. I am disputing the notion that singular tournaments results (x character winning y tourney) are valuable data points when it comes to design decisions. That's just shallow analysis and perpetuates poorly informed opinions and misinformation. Also, not sure why you're bringing up Belial being strong in vanilla but acting like Ferry wasn't literally the meta for years. The fact is, Belial has the same number of AWT Rising Top 8s as Djeeta, Charlotta, Lowain, Grimnir, Metera, and Narmaya. Is he top tier? Yes, but he isn't game-breaking like the 4~5 characters that were sitting above him prior to 1.50

[@_Deez]

​@@catspawSeconding everything you said. People get so irrational about character balance. If Belial is the boogeyman of this patch, I think I'm fine with that. He's really not nearly as crazy as the characters who were above him. There will always be top tier. We can't just keep crying for nerfs about evert top tier that pops up.

[@Zevox87]

Agreed. Belial was always quite good, no question there, but he was never "oh, this character definitely needs nerfs" top-tier good like Nier, Seox, Siegfried, etc. That he won one big tournament doesn't change that. And most of the buffs that he did get were not big - only the 236U buff is particularly notable - and they did nerf a clear abuseable tool, the guard crush on 214U. He may well be top-tier, perhaps even top 1, now, that's possible. But his changes in this patch make perfect sense given where he was. He's the character who was high-tier enough to already be strong but not top-tier enough to be a nerf target, and so benefitted a lot more than from his personal changes alone because everyone above him got knocked down a peg and he didn't. There's always someone like that, because the line on who gets nerfs always has to be drawn somewhere. If it wasn't Belial, it'd be Beatrix.

[@nethxing]

wait i been gone for a long time wasn't Percival one of the worst characters in the game

[@soramercury7074]

those tierlists are not similar at all, when you consider that the other guys have c and d tier characters, what is just stupid to me.

[@Lulumemes.]

Talk about metera for more than 15 seconds challenge (impossible)(didn't even show the changes)(he fucking hates that character)

[@baterraoraa4846]

Dont forget that rising normals scale more so now ferry instant overheads, zeta/grimnir fuzzys do less damage I still think the ferry nerf was stupid

[@StarBoxz]

I hate Percival so much. I never wanna hear downplay about this character again.

[@Lucoms]

What do u mean. He was literally bottom before buffs… it wasn’t downplaying

[@yoyoguy1st]

Yuel feels terrible now.

[@DeadM00n_gdlk]

I honestly don't see how Grimnir is in s tier. 214u "normalization" is not a normalization, it's now not just punishable by everyone, it's punishable with cm by like half the cast. With universal damage nerf from ults it's now punishable with more damage for the same meter than it actually does. Fh is now a reaction check, 214l is not a ch launcher, plus the universal changes... And what do we get in return? 236u speed and 236m frames buffs are nice, but aside from it, buffer is purely a QoL, his routes with dashes never were that hard, and 66m / 66h range buff is laughworthy, 236m, despite the buff, is still only plus when it leaves at a range where you can't meaningfully use it, midscreen extensions with bigger dash hitstun and 623m changes let you extend midscreen routes with upper seal but how often do you need it anyway. I don't think there is a single better MU except vs characters like nier or lance which were almost only nerfed, and he didn't struggle particularly much against them. I dont get how did he end up higher than before with only a couple of actually meaningfull buffs and overall stronger cast

[@blitzball9915]

I agree. Idk why he put him S tier. He didn't change much , and he's still requires some execution.

[@_Deez]

He's actually not the only one. I don't remember who else put him high but they had him in top 2. Don't know shit about Grimnir so I have no opinion.

[@davidemuzio8464]

If from now on grimnir starts winning all the big tournaments, in a parallel dimension, then dia is right. In the real world this proves that all tierlists are total bullshit.

[@princecliveXVI]

my boy vane is still low tier damn

[@captainmega6310]

Actually he's probably like ok now

[@TyniWins]

I don't know if they will but I hope Lucilius gets Bea Nerf treatment. Save us Fukahara-san

[@FA-nd9uk]

The game still feel like ass in many areas due some bizarre design choices

[@Bluzlbee]

My wife 😢

[@Daikuro1]

I picked up Yuel because of this patch and she feels great. People dooming on her are hilarious. She's mostly the same just with a few additional opportunities to force opponents to respect or guess. My only complaint about her is unchanged from this patch: I wish her stance was incorporated into combos more.

[@tomfoolery8419]

cant wait for next patch where 2B's parry, walking forward, throws, and doing normals, will cost SKL and she receives more nerfs :DDDD the fuck was the point of adding her to the game? Granblue players hate her, and apparently so does the devs

[@cooltwittertag]

i already stopped playing and so did my friends, atrocious update policy made us go back to SF6 because at least we know what to expect

[@shogo.mad.]

If you call "balance" to buff one of the most OP characters that literally won EVO, making him even more OP then sure it's really balanced now

[@captainmega6310]

Stop the cap. He's not THAT good